Fiverr : Should I issue a Refund to those who don't read my Gig Description Properly?

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Fiverr is full of retard buyers..I spun articles on my gig. Donno why people dont read the Gig description properly and they end up ordering what they dont want

One guy ordered that gig once and he liked it. He thought the articles were originally written

After 20 order he found out himself that the articles are indeed spun...And then he asked me to refund all the gigs which he ordered...

How can I tackle such situations?? I have tried to be clear in my Gig but some just dnt understand. I dont like to issue refunds are they mark the order as complete..

And if i don't refund to them they end up placing a negative feedback (Although I havent got any in 200 sales)
#description #fiverr #gig #issue #properly #read #refund
  • Profile picture of the author Scott Henderson
    Have you tried to reason with him in a civil/polite manner? Maybe offer him some original articles that are not spun at no extra charge.

    I don't know much about Fiverr, but I assume that there is a refund policy. Take the high road and give the refund if all else fails. Yes it sucks sometimes but it's best to just let the customer know/think that they are right and if they are not satisfied refund them. That's my opinion.
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    • Profile picture of the author dbarnum
      I'd go to support on that one. They can help and cancel on your end so it doesn't show up in any negative manner (like just as a cancel, I'm pretty sure, instead of a refund). Can't hurt to ask.

      And seriously, some people don't read or understand all the info we share with them so fast all the time. So for $5, it's best to keep them happy. Invite them to return, even, and they may become one of your top customers later on
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  • Profile picture of the author Yogini
    It might be useful to review your description and try to rewrite anything that isn't clear. You can put NOT original and make sure there is no room for misinterpretation. However, if you've received 200 orders and there was only one person that made this error, it may already be clear in your description. It seems odd though that he didn't check after he placed the first order but that he waited till all 20 were completed!

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    • Profile picture of the author Racquel_McFarlane07
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      I think contacting fiverr in the event of a negative posting is best. Until then I wouldn't offer any refunds as they already utilized your service. You may want to consider putting an explanation of what a spun article is in your gig description though. Godd Luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author Devon Brown
    I would contact Fiverr when you question a refund. But also in your description, but it at the top and put it in all caps. This will also help you with not issuing refunds. How can someone miss at the very top and in all caps? They still will of course, but you have that in your defense.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paleochora
    If the buyer has made a genuine error and is polite and respectful, then I would offer a refund for the current gig.

    I would not refund for the previous gigs (I am not sure that it is an option in Fiverr after the gig has been reviewed and marked as complete).

    You have done the work and delivered exactly what you promised.

    If there is neg. feedback, you get to have the last word by posting your feedback on the buyer.
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    • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
      Originally Posted by Paleochora View Post

      If the buyer has made a genuine error and is polite and respectful, then I would offer a refund for the current gig.

      I would not refund for the previous gigs (I am not sure that it is an option in Fiverr after the gig has been reviewed and marked as complete).

      You have done the work and delivered exactly what you promised.

      If there is neg. feedback, you get to have the last word by posting your feedback on the buyer.
      This is what I would do.

      There is no way in hell that you owe him a refund for 20 gigs. I would definitely contact fiverr's support and let them know about this.

      I could understand if it was just 2 or 3 gigs, I get people who don't bother to read the description as well. But nobody has ever bought 20 times and THEN decided to read the description.

      Sounds like the buyer is just looking for a handout. Which is sad, considering its one of the cheapest micro-job sites around. If you're gonna try to scam someone, at least do it right. As they say, go big or go home!

      LOL!! Na I'm just kidding on that last part. But seriously, contact Fiverr's support.
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenJones
    Counter act these problems in the future by being clear about your Gig. So just say that you will give them spun articles..3 TIMES!
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  • Profile picture of the author CyberAlien
    One thing that you have to remember, especially when dealing with refunds, is that customer service is always going to be your best friend. If you refund the money then that person could go as far as writing great reviews about you to let other people know how easy you are to work with - in fact, they may even come buy spun articles from you in the future if they need any. However, you have to make sure that you aren't getting run over by someone requesting a refund - try to find a middle ground with them unless you're okay with just issuing the full refund.
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  • Profile picture of the author Oggyoi
    'Fiverr is full of retard buyers ' but not all of them.
    I think there are plenty scamming sellers on there too, who don't provide what they are selling.

    In your case I think the buyer is at fault for not reading your gig properly.
    If he/she had any doubts then they should have contacted you.

    The buyer seems to have been very impressed with your previous work for them to have ordered 20 times, but as mentioned above if I was in your shoes I'd offer the buyer either a couple of free articles ( as a gesture of goodwill after highlighting your advert clearly states things are spun ) or if they say no to that then wait for them to leave neg feedback and you respond accordingly.

    I don't sell on there but have bought. Take a screenshot of your gig advert, keep it in case the dispute escalates at all.

    I do from time to time buy bits from Fiverr but I do check reviews too. I think 'maybe' some people leaving negative feedback are competitors to the seller.

    I'm more inclined to order from a seller with 98% from 100 gigs than a seller of 100% from 3 gigs.


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  • Profile picture of the author Melvolio
    No matter how clear your gig and how specific, people will still get it wrong and be unhappy with the service you've provided for them.

    You can only refund open gigs, so there's nothing you can do about the previous 20, but I would refund the open one. Apart from that I would say 'leave bad feedback and be damned!'. 1 out of a sea of positives makes little impact.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    ^ Right, but Fiverr also allows you to go back and change your feedback, even if it was something you bought a year ago.

    Those 20 positives could become 20 negatives in no time.. Which would pretty much guarantee you never sell another gig.

    Which is why I said to contact their help desk.
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    How fast is their help desk response anyway?
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  • Profile picture of the author littledan
    Your best bet is to contact the support desk, sometimes support for some websites can act as a mediator (not too sure about fiverr though). As I understand it you can only refund open gigs, not previously completed ones. I suggest offering a refund on his open gig and throw in a bonus, like an original article or an e-book if you have something suitable to his niche.
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    • I wouldn't use the R word but Fiverr is full of buyers who just don't READ the gig description. And before you say "be more clear", I have gigs I have rewritten repeatedly so they cannot be misunderstood by any human being with an IQ above room temperature.

      I've made six sales this week of various gigs and I had to cancel all six because these twits do not read the description of what the gig is. They watch the pretty videos, their eyes get big, they go "Ooooh, I want THAT" and they order it. And I think some of them deliberately try to get more than what the gig states.

      The last one even contacted me before ordering my Vision Board video gig and it certainly seemed she understood. But when she placed the order she didn't want a vision board at all, she wanted a product video. I was to pull photos off her website and write the captions. I won't do that for $5.

      I don't care about not earning a few bucks; it's never been about the money. But I'd like to preserve my rating. And the only way to cancel without damaging your rating is to make sure it's mutual. If you get a recalcitrant twit who insists on having their way, it's a problem.

      OP: Based on what you say, I wouldn't issue a refund. Not once he has the product.

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  • Profile picture of the author singhmanish251
    Unfortunately I have already refunded that guy. He said he would have to complain to Admin of fiverr If I dont get the refunds..

    I couldnt say to him "Go for it". As fiverr admins are so strict and prompt in actions that they will refund him without even asking the seller...Maybe thats a con of a great Fiverr support (Yeah they are great in support)

    Those who saying that "Refund is not possible after the gig is marked completed" are WRONG!

    It can be done by contacting the fiverr Admin. I have refunded around 15 retard buyers out of 200 sold within 1st month itself

    I wont even care refunding to them after order is marked complete but the problem is that THEY HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE FEEDBACK!!! Anytime..

    One guy did the same...I somehow consoled him after telling that I will refund you the money after contacting fiverr admin so please remove the feedback..Luckily he did ..and so he got refunded and order was marked cancelled without any affect on the ratings

    THE POINT IS THAT

    Is it fair to refund the retard buyers as I spend 10 frigging mins on 1 order and when they say please refund to me thats a loss for me also right?

    THATS nothing..!!! That guy who had ordered 20 times asked for full refund and 100$ compensation...I refunded to him all 20 (Had to or else he would get refund by complaining to admin) and then he asked for 100$..

    I said WTF and then reported to admin. Admin took action and warned the buyer

    Fiverr is nothing but lots of cheap stress..

    Since I am getting 5 to 7 orders a day I normally get atlaest 1 retard buyer whom I have to refund...

    Height of retardation : My gig offered articles for AMR submission. That guy ordered and then mentioned his topics and then asked WHAT IS AMR?

    WTF!!!!

    The disputes like these should be kept open for both so that the seller doesnt get affect by cheap complaint by the buyer...
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by singhmanish251 View Post

      Unfortunately I have already refunded that guy. He said he would have to complain to Admin of fiverr If I dont get the refunds..

      I couldnt say to him "Go for it". As fiverr admins are so strict and prompt in actions that they will refund him without even asking the seller...Maybe thats a con of a great Fiverr support (Yeah they are great in support)

      Those who saying that "Refund is not possible after the gig is marked completed" are WRONG!

      It can be done by contacting the fiverr Admin. I have refunded around 15 retard buyers out of 200 sold within 1st month itself

      I wont even care refunding to them after order is marked complete but the problem is that THEY HAVE THE POWER TO CHANGE THE FEEDBACK!!! Anytime..

      One guy did the same...I somehow consoled him after telling that I will refund you the money after contacting fiverr admin so please remove the feedback..Luckily he did ..and so he got refunded and order was marked cancelled without any affect on the ratings

      THE POINT IS THAT

      Is it fair to refund the retard buyers as I spend 10 frigging mins on 1 order and when they say please refund to me thats a loss for me also right?

      THATS nothing..!!! That guy who had ordered 20 times asked for full refund and 100$ compensation...I refunded to him all 20 (Had to or else he would get refund by complaining to admin) and then he asked for 100$..

      I said WTF and then reported to admin. Admin took action and warned the buyer

      Fiverr is nothing but lots of cheap stress..

      Since I am getting 5 to 7 orders a day I normally get atlaest 1 retard buyer whom I have to refund...

      Height of retardation : My gig offered articles for AMR submission. That guy ordered and then mentioned his topics and then asked WHAT IS AMR?

      WTF!!!!

      The disputes like these should be kept open for both so that the seller doesnt get affect by cheap complaint by the buyer...
      From what you have said here it seems that the financial damage has pretty much been self inflicted. YOU never once contacted the admins to cover your own backside...that's the really big mistake in this situation.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    Stop letting these people walk all over you.

    Tell them if they have a problem with your service, they should have said so after their first order and asked you for a refund at that time.

    NOT order 20 more and wait until they are completed. So yeah, tell him to contact the admin. It's a real person, not some automated system that chooses who's right and who's wrong.

    They see it from both parties point of view. They know the buyer isn't always right. Plus he gets paid to deal with these idiots. lol
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    • What we're seeing here with Fiverr is exactly the way it was (and still is, to some extent) on eBay.

      eBay is notorious for buyers who just don't read. They impose their own glowing hopes and expectations, then when they receive the item they bought -- which is exactly as described -- they get upset.

      At least with Fiverr we have a chance to head them off at the pass, since there's another layer of communication that eBay doesn't have. Since a Fiverr order is almost always a custom order, the buyer has to communicate with the seller before the work is done. Actually, this is an idea eBay should pick up on. I don't know how to implement it, but it would prevent a lot of customer dissatisfaction if the customer actually had to state what s/he expects to get.

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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    I always just grant refund requests without dispute no matter how insane the reason is, even if they refund 5 minutes after the purchase, it's really less of a headache in the long run
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  • Profile picture of the author Damielle
    I would refund the last gig as a matter of customer service.

    As for the previous 20, there's no way this guy can convince anyone that he has been confused or tricked into buying the same service 20 times.

    Even if he leaves a bad review, you can simply point to the fact that this customer has had 20 previous 'good' transactions with you and that should take care of that.

    You will still have a pretty good rating on fiverr, and for the amount of jobs done it is expected that you would have at least one or two bad reviews
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    • Profile picture of the author Kay King
      Since I am getting 5 to 7 orders a day I normally get atlaest 1 retard buyer whom I have to refund...
      That tells me your description isn't as clear as you say it is. Very few people outside a marketing forum would know what "AMR" is so not knowing is not uncommon.

      I don't use Fiverr so don't know space/length restrictions on a gig - but if 1 in 5 buyers doesn't understand what you are selling you need a better ad.

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  • Profile picture of the author timpears
    I would do AT MOST a refund for the last order or two. This could be just a cleaver rouse on his part, or he may just not have read the description properly. It is hard to say.

    I think I agree with those that said to take it to support and let them help decide on this. When someone reorders, that usually means they are satisfied with their orders.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author da1fitz
    I tend to think that lots of people don't read the Fiverr descriptions properly.

    I setup a test gig selling quick to create WP themes with very specific instructions and a very specific description as to what was on offer.

    I was inundated with requests for full websites and logo designs as all in one packages just for the $5 gig.

    I soon removed this doh!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Wilhite
    well on your defense you can mention that he had 20 transactions with you already.

    But to soften things up and to turn this thing around why not go out of your
    way to impress this customer.

    He's got money to spend, remember he already bought 20 times. So better
    keep him on board since he's a paying client.

    Try to meet him halfway to continue being in business with him.
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    • Profile picture of the author Stephen Lessey
      Im going through the same problem on a new gig I just created.
      The buyer is wants me to do the impossible and another job all in the same gig.

      stevenles87: I will edit and rework your photo using Adobe Photoshop for $5 on fiverr.com

      When I said in my description and buyers info that I need high resolution images, he gave me a crappy low bitrate image and wants it to look perfect.

      I knew from the start that this guy just want free work for nothing and didnt have a clue what he was asking. So im going to prepare my feedback for when he shows his true colors.

      I wish there was a filter for selecting jobs that we want to do. This way we force buyers to READ and be specific as possible. Then it's up to us sellers to select jobs that are worth our time
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      • Profile picture of the author CTonline09
        HELL NO!

        I wouldn't refund!

        Why should you for what reason???

        If you clearly state what a customer is getting and they have ordered previously 19 times then no chance.

        Just becasue you do business onlne doesn't mean you should bow down to customer refund requests.

        Try doing that on the high street irder the same service 20 times go back and see where you get when asking for 20 refunds!

        Because we do business online then yes negative feedback spreads fast but sometimes inevitable.

        I would reason with them and tell them how it is, if they want to give negative feedback use your emails as your evidence to making the customer understand that you tried to communicate with them.

        Then use the evidence when you contact support!

        Same situation goes with everyone here trading online!
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        • Profile picture of the author Daniel Evans
          The 200 sales should speak for your sevices and drown out his feedback.

          He should have researched previous to hiring you.
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  • Profile picture of the author kralcx
    If you did the work don't issue a refund
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  • Profile picture of the author mmginc
    Use as many information in your title rather than description. People don't read description often. It happen with me as well.
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  • Profile picture of the author sanjon
    In your description always mention feel free to inbox me before ordering any gig.
    I always write this and the buyers talk to me before ordering any gig!!
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  • Profile picture of the author iuditg
    I would tell the customer that he should have read the description properly as the mistake was made from his part. But if he is polite and humble, I would offer him couple of free articles and get the things sorted
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  • Profile picture of the author onegoodman
    seriously refund after 20 orders .

    I wouldn't go for a refund and I am sure nor will fiverr. contact the support, it is his mistake.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joshua Rigley
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    I'd refund his last order and that would be it. If I mentioned in the title of the service, and in the body of the gig, that I was spinning articles, and he thought I was making original articles...that's his own dumb fault.
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    • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
      I have noticed a new trend on fiverr... the word is getting out that fiverr will issue the refund with out question.

      I have had many now... more than 10 in the last few weeks.

      people order the gig (I have gig extras they can order extra)

      I deliver complete the gig they give pos review... then they ask for the extra for free... I tell them that is extra fee. They some then change POS feedback to NEG... they contact fiverr support and ask for refund cancel order.

      Fiverr is starting to be like ClickBank they cancel the order refund them no questions asked to me... last month or so this is happen more and more... I now have 17 cancel orders for work they have got.

      The last guy bought 6 gigs and one gig extra for 20 bucks. total 50.00 in gigs all refunded no questions asked. After he gave POS review for the gigs he asked for refund.

      This is getting little out of control...

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      • Originally Posted by RichardDean View Post

        I have noticed a new trend on fiverr... the word is getting out that fiverr will issue the refund with out question.
        Remember that Fiverr is still evolving. People used to complain they couldn't get refunds but now it sounds as though the pendulum has swung too far in the other direction.

        Email customer service or post on their Facebook page. That latter seems to get better results.

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  • Profile picture of the author Robert Michael
    ^ Yeah, I've been having a LOT of really "demanding" buyers lately.

    I ALWAYS over-deliver, and I provide quality work. But lately there has been a lot of BS from buyers.

    Like one guy, he said something like "Oh, your gig description said you were going to give me 30 spun copies of my article but you gave me 500.. I don't want 500 plz refund"

    REALLY????? LOL
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    • Profile picture of the author RichardDean
      Originally Posted by Gedas Biz View Post

      I would try to highlight important parts of description, so that it would be impossible to miss them. And I guess I wouldn't issue a refund for those who can't read properly.
      We have no control over the refund Fiverr support is doing it with no questions asked...

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