Is AWEBER having serious DELIVERABILITY Issues?

I noticed it too.

Luckily I don't have too many lists with aweber. And want to move away from them completely, all together. Their fees are too heavy for the service they are currently delivering. I rather pay double and get good deliverability.

Currently my lists are making about 3/4th from what they were making previously. And I haven't seen that change with my other lists, hosted by myself.

YES.

Another Warrior has uncovered extensive evidence that AWeber has been added to several spam blacklists.

I also believe but cannot prove that GMail is treating clicks on major list provider "unsubscribe" links as spam complaints internally.

I hate AWeber. I hate them with a fiery passion. If I could find a better list provider I would switch in a heartbeat.

Instead, what I find is worse providers trying to get me to switch with reminders of how much I hate AWeber.

I keep doing a month or two at another list provider, then cancelling when I discover I simply can't do what I want to do. AWeber gets me closer than anyone else, but their deliverability is crap and their support is abusive and the only thing I can compare to on any other provider is their features.

I have used both Imnica and GetResponse, neither of which is significantly worse than AWeber, but neither of them is significantly better either. I am leaning strongly toward self-hosting.

Mailchimp does not care for affiliate links of any kind, and the fact that you have had no trouble means you're lucky. Read their TOS, they can (and do) nuke accounts that they decide are affiliate marketers, regardless of the products you are promoting.

I still like aweber and even with these issues, I have a lower bounce rate than others I've used.

I checked with earthlink.net and they say they have not blocked emails from aweber, only the end user can block domains or email addresses.

I looked this up here in the forum because all of a sudden my Aweber account seems to be getting half or less the deliverability it was getting last week.

At least that appears to be the case.

Even my worst subject lines don't get such horrible open rates. And I thought I had a decent subject line for my email.

The first time sent it out on Saturday. As usual I had a zero spam score.

Then late Sunday night I sent out a different email linking to the original email that I posted on my blog. I figured something in the body of the email must have triggered the spam filters.

I made sure to change the title of the blog post (within the second email) to remove any possible spammy words. And again on this email I'm getting really sub-par open rates.

The original subject line: "9 Unusual Ways Exercise Saves Time & Makes Money"

Next email subject line: "Stolen by Email Police"

This same email subject line I used a long time ago had a great open rate. So I know there's something really wrong here.

It's possible it got sucked up by some other spam filters that have different rules than spamassassin.

But this is a major problem and so I'm going to have a talk with Aweber.

Roger Haeske

I'm doing a little investigation of my own at the moment.

Here's what I understand of their situation:
- Aweber has taken a hit from ISPs on deliverability
- As a measure to curb this and clean up their act, they've moved a great deal of accounts over to shared IP addresses with mediocre (to bad) delivery
- So it's like getting sent to detention - only you can never leave. Because if your deliverability or click-throughs were just so-so before, imagine your percentages when you're thrown on the crap servers.

I'm going to do a bit of an experiment - and it's something we can all try. I got this from a high-level email person who shall remain nameless.

1) Use a GMAIL account
2) Seed that account on your list
3) When you get an email, view the header within the GMAIL client (from my understanding, this is something you can do easily)
4) Look for the IP address of the sender
5) Research that IP and run it through a few checks, like MXtools.

I used to love Aweber. Now I'm very unhappy. But most of it is the changing face of internet email, and it ain't gonna get any better.

I'm moving towards my own in-house server with managed reputation service.

I just started another thread with my issues with Awebber before coming across this one.

My main problem is that around 35% of people don't do a double Optin in. And recently when I opted in into another Marketer's form and I never received an email with a confirmation (double opt in)

Why spend so much money in the long run if their service has gone down hill?

Is it worth it to stay and hope things will get better?

The deliverability rate for any AR service is awful and recently got even worst. Perhaps its time you get your own AR. I have a PHP script lying around I can give you if you want your very own AR and get a 100% deliverability rate.

Bernard

Wow I never knew that about MailChimp. Is there anything you can do to dodge the deletion?