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12 years ago

You'd have thought they'd have realised you could write better copy than them anyway....

....apart from the first one, because that one must have been smoking, drinking or taking something.

ps - does anyone know a good copywriter?

Ken Strong has a splendid reputation and I'm sure he could do with the cash now too, failing that I'm sure he could point you where to go.

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DianaHeuser

12 years ago

You might to need to add that they are capable of reading the original post BEFORE replying

Good luck Carol

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MattVit 12 years ago

Hahaha that's hilarious... People think that because they can write English, they're also copywriters. To be honest, I think you need at least some kind of course, even if it's a good eBook, in copywriting to do it professionally. There's a lot more to it than just 'writing'.

Maybe that's the problem right there - people are mistaking 'writing' for 'copywriting'...
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- tpw 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by MattVit
  
  Hahaha that's hilarious...
  
  Maybe that's the problem right there - people are mistaking 'writing' for 'copywriting'...
  
  I am betting that they think "copywriting" means to "copy" "writing"... :p
  
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  ant888 12 years ago
  
  copywriting is EXACTLY that ... its the process of the method called ROTA 300 yrs ago ... where children have the original text on the line above and they have to 'copy' it exactly on the line below ... hence the name copy-writing .....
  
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  MattVit 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by tpw
  
  I am betting that they think "copywriting" means to "copy" "writing"... :p
  
  Heh I chuckled at that. It definitely makes sense. A poor copy at that!
  
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art72

12 years ago

Definitely an area of interest of mine, one to wit, I am challenged to find out.

However, after seeing some of the responses around here lately for writing services "claiming to be" article writers, copywriters, and the like, it doesn't surprise me to see the responses you've received.

Personally, I have yet to really give it a go, nor am I advertising any writing services, but if you get in a pinch...

You could pm me the details and I'd gladly take a shot at it, then we'll discuss it's value should it suit your needs.

Who knows what my pen may yield?

All the Best,

Art

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rosetrees

12 years ago

The rant here - and amending the original ad - worked. I've now had several good quality replies. The problem now is going to be choosing!

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by rosetrees

One provider tells me "We can render you professional writer that can turn out sales into your site"

Eew, well, I never think you quote in public onto the forum. I make only private offer only to turn out only and copy sales.

Originally Posted by rosetrees

I've edited my ad to ask for a high standard of grammatical English!

"Picky" ...

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Bill Farnham

12 years ago

When you're dealing with a new unproven copywriting prospect have them write one original article based soley on the topic you give them. What they write is up to them. It's a test. You just want to see a sample that helps you determine their understanding of the task.

A good topic to choose is - "How to Quit Smoking Cold Turkey".

You'll learn a lot...

~Bill

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Dennis Gaskill

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

When you're dealing with a new unproven copywriting prospect have them write one original article based soley on the topic you give them.

A good topic to choose is - "How to Quit Smoking Cold Turkey".

How to Quit Smoking Cold Turkey

1. Preheat your oven to 350 degrees.
2. Place the turkey in the oven.
3. Remove the turkey in 30 minutes.

Now you can smoke a warm turkey instead.

Do I get the job?

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Bill Farnham

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

How to Quit Smoking Cold Turkey

1. Preheat your oven to 350 degrees.
2. Place the turkey in the oven.
3. Remove the turkey in 30 minutes.

Now you can smoke a warm turkey instead.

Do I get the job?

My point exactly...:p

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tpw

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Dennis Gaskill

How to Quit Smoking Cold Turkey

1. Preheat your oven to 350 degrees.
2. Place the turkey in the oven.
3. Remove the turkey in 30 minutes.

Now you can smoke a warm turkey instead.

Do I get the job?

Sounds to me like you are serving warm turkey instead of cold turkey?!?

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Dennis Gaskill 12 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

Sounds to me like you are serving smoked turkey instead of cold turkey?!?

Fixed that for ya!
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JCorp

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

When you're dealing with a new unproven copywriting prospect have them write one original article based soley on the topic you give them. What they write is up to them. It's a test. You just want to see a sample that helps you determine their understanding of the task.

A good topic to choose is - "How to Quit Smoking Cold Turkey".

You'll learn a lot...

~Bill

Strange. I didn't even know you could smoke a cold turkey. What will they think of next...:p

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Banned 12 years ago

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rosetrees

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Eew, well, I never think you quote in public onto the forum. I make only private offer only to turn out only and copy sales.

If that's your attitude, I won't hire you then.

(for the humourly challenged, that was meant to be a joke)

Originally Posted by Bill Farnham

.......You just want to see a sample that helps you determine their understanding of the task.

A good topic to choose is - "How to Quit Smoking Cold Turkey".

You'll learn a lot...

Yuk. I don't need any encouragement to stop smoking cold turkeys. Sounds disgusting

( for the humourly challenged - see above)

Originally Posted by surfer90

the us government just stated that there are no aliens

I seem to recall several eminent politicians assuring us that their resignations weren't imminent.

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by rosetrees

I seem to recall several eminent politicians assuring us that their resignations weren't imminent.

Ah yes, maybe so ... but to be fair many of those did last two weeks in their positions: the ones who also assure us that they enjoy the full confidence of the Prime Minister/President tend to last only one week.
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TheHotChick

Banned 12 years ago

Me copy right good. lol j/k.. Good luck with that.

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John Ralph 12 years ago

Originally Posted by TheHotChick

Me copy right good. lol j/k.. Good luck with that.

haha, how much to hire you
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- TheHotChick Banned 12 years ago
  
  LOL I suppose it depends what you need.
  
  Originally Posted by CoastlineMedia
  
  haha, how much to hire you
  
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E. Brian Rose

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rosetrees

I think I just strayed into one - and no, I'm not smoking, drinking or taking anything.

I posted an ad in the Warriors Wanted section for a copywriter. I've had 3 replies so far.

One was an unsolicited email telling me the person didn't do copywriting!
One provider tells me "We can render you professional writer that can turn out sales into your site"
One provider tell ms "I am a copy writer can I see your link and I can tell you wat I can do to help you"

I've edited my ad to ask for a high standard of grammatical English!

Come on guys - if you're offering services as a copywriter (or any kind of writer) make sure that your contact email or PM reflects the service you offer.

ps - does anyone know a good copywriter?

I know exactly how you feel! I go through this with writers, software developers, and graphics people all the time! I even blogged about it once.

Here is an excerpt from that post...

About a month ago, I posted a thread in a chat forum to recruit a new writer. The thread was very specific in what I wanted. I specifically stated that all applicants must:

1. submit a sample article with their initial contact
2. provide links to at least five of their articles that were previously published
3. write with perfect English and grammar
4. be available for multiple articles per week

Within just a few minutes, my inbox was filled with people wanting the gig. The very first message that I read was a single line that said something like, "sir I can do the work you had request". I contemplated whether to just hit the delete button or reply telling the "writer" that he was a good for nothing loser. I chose the later and it felt good.

Out of the first 100 responses that I read, only a couple of them actually followed the directions. One of them was hired and continues to receive well paying jobs from me every week.

It may sound cliche to say, but it is a fact that you only get one first impression. If you are seeking work as a writer, webmaster, or even a waiter for that matter, make sure that you present yourself as a professional.

If you fail to follow the first instructions that a potential employer gives you, what do you think the chances of being hired for the job are?

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sal64

12 years ago

Originally Posted by TheHotChick

LOL I suppose it depends what you need.

ha ha... probably can't afford you.

Originally Posted by rosetrees

I think I just strayed into one - and no, I'm not smoking, drinking or taking anything.

I posted an ad in the Warriors Wanted section for a copywriter. I've had 3 replies so far.

One was an unsolicited email telling me the person didn't do copywriting!
One provider tells me "We can render you professional writer that can turn out sales into your site"
One provider tell ms "I am a copy writer can I see your link and I can tell you wat I can do to help you"

I've edited my ad to ask for a high standard of grammatical English!

Come on guys - if you're offering services as a copywriter (or any kind of writer) make sure that your contact email or PM reflects the service you offer.

ps - does anyone know a good copywriter?

I can recommend Rebecca Hagel from here.

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Brendan Vraibel

12 years ago

I think the best response is the unsolicited email telling you that they don't do copywriting. It's rare that I actually laugh out loud on the warrior forum. Kudos to that person.

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rosetrees 12 years ago

Originally Posted by CoastlineMedia

haha, how much to hire you

Originally Posted by TheHotChick

LOL I suppose it depends what you need.

Get a room guys!
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TimothyW

12 years ago

Rosetrees... I beg of you... whatever you do, DO NOT go on any medical forums + post requests for doctors!

Cheers.

-- TW

PS: By chance, did your original request ask for a "Wordsmite," instead of wordsmith?

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RyanLB

12 years ago

LOL. Yes I would say that the service that they are offering, especially a writing service, as well as their professionalism should be represented in the PM.

One wonders how they receive any business.

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TimothyW 12 years ago

Originally Posted by RyanLB

One wonders how they receive any business.

Maybe from other people who don't speak English either? The blind leading the blind?
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rosetrees

12 years ago

I do feel I should add here that I have the greatest respect for anyone whose first language isn't English. I know there are many regular, well respected Warriors whose first language is something else and I don't want anyone to feel that I'm intending to put them down or laugh at them.

It's just that we all have to be reasonable about our own abilities. I can read French, but I wouldn't offer to write anything.

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TimothyW

12 years ago

Originally Posted by rosetrees

I do feel I should add here that I have the greatest respect for anyone whose first language isn't English. I know there are many regular, well respected Warriors whose first language is something else and I don't want anyone to feel that I'm intending to put them down or laugh at them.

It's just that we all have to be reasonable about our own abilities. I can read French, but I wouldn't offer to write anything.

I agree -- there's nothing wrong with people who cannot speak English very well. But it does "cost" them when they try to market themselves or their services in an English speaking country. Even the SLIGHTEST error reveals that they are not native speakers. Like... "47$ only!"

-- TW

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Dwayne Morrison

12 years ago

I Hulk. Hulk smash! Good copywriting right? By no means am I an extremely good copywriter however, if you're looking for one, definitely go with one that has proper grammar and can acquire the readers attention within the first sentence. I'm pretty sure by now you've already found one though.

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focused

12 years ago

Now that you've got several good replies for your
amended ad, what procedure will you use to pick
the winning candidate?

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