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Unread 12th November 2011, 04:18 PM   #101
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There's tons of criticizing of the gurus going but if those criticizing them were in their shoes, they sure as hell would be happy with the fame and money that comes with being known as a guru.
Understandable, but isn't it also important that if you accept the label of guru, you should do everything in your power to produce quality products?

Personally I don't have a problem with the little people standing up to the "guru" that pushes poor quality.

I just can't wait for 2011(the year of the push button software) to be over.
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bull crap, killer products dont sell themselves
Amen brother!

I am straight LOLing about these comments stating that if the product was better he would have made more money off his launch...

Sounds like a very.... templated response to me - regurgitating some crap that is harped all over the WF over and over again...

How does product quality have anything to do with conversions if it's being sold through a blind sales letter? It doesn't...

One could argue that your refund rates might be lower so therefore you keep more money... but unfortunately, with Clickbank these days, your refund rates have nothing to do with product quality. You're pretty much guaranteed a 30% refund rate no matter how bad ass your product is. And yes, I've tested that with the same exact product: one blind, one open, same refund rates.

You could also argue that the lifetime of your product will be longer for a higher quality product because of word of mouth referrals. However, from my experience, the benefit of creating a higher quality product in the CB market is very marginal, at best. Why? Because that market is not the same as the WF market. They are dreamers who aren't truly interesting in making a living online. They are more looking at is as a lottery ticket, and inevitably lose interest after a couple months of buying and "trying". "Trying" is the operative word because to most of them trying is entering your credit card information into an order form.

Anyway, that's besides the point...

What I wanted to say was that as long as he breaks even on this project, it will have been a major success. He made a ton of connections... he learned how to make a real Hollywood style movie. That's invaluable and priceless experience that very few people in the world will be lucky enough to soak in.

On top of that, he'll now be known as the only internet marketer who starred in a full feature movie... that's going to be massive for his brand.

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Well, you have to see this video first:

http://blog.affiliateclassroom.com/anik-bankruptcy/

Anik ADMITS to have made false promises, and that
most of his PPC Classroom members had failed.
Still, people think that it's good that he came to his
senses, and now trust him more (at least that's what
apparent from the comments).

This is a strange world we are living in.!

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Even if you were one of the people who he charged credit cards that he was not supposed to, had piddle poor customer support and you had to go to earths end to get things stopped and sorted ? / sometimes things stay the same as well, just read the many reports of launches since then, tough times bring in many newbie fodder for sharks, and after so many failed or poor applications / support problems would not there be lessons learnt ? and avoided in the future, or is the lesson "learn to wrap bull crap in chocolate and you will sell it everytime"

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Everyone is also missing the bigger picture here...

Most launches are NOT designed to make a ton of money right up front, they make some, but the initial product sale isn't where the money is...

Launches like this are designed to bring a lot of customers in the door, and Anik just brought in thousands. I'd be more than willing to bet that Anik's company ends up well ahead of that 400k number, in profit, by the time it's all said and done...

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Unread 12th November 2011, 09:52 PM   #105
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I think Anik watching to many James bond films.

I will say it was one of the few sales videos I did watch but I think it was too long. I think a lot of people may have given up before he got to heart of the offer.

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Unread 12th November 2011, 09:58 PM   #106
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However, from my experience, the benefit of creating a higher quality product in the CB market is very marginal, at best. Why? Because that market is not the same as the WF market. They are dreamers who aren't truly interesting in making a living online
There is nothing wrong with selling products of different levels of quality but the product must still do what it says it will do in its promotional material. This particular product is software, then so long as it has all the features mentioned (and it actually works) then that's fine.

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Even if you were one of the people who he charged credit cards that he was not supposed to, had piddle poor customer support and you had to go to earths end to get things stopped and sorted ? / sometimes things stay the same as well, just read the many reports of launches since then, tough times bring in many newbie fodder for sharks, and after so many failed or poor applications / support problems would not there be lessons learnt ? and avoided in the future, or is the lesson "learn to wrap bull crap in chocolate and you will sell it everytime"
No, I was never a student of Anik's any coaching
products (or any product of his', if you will.)

So, what he did (according to me was this):
1. Created a product and hyped it a lot (damn lot).
2. Created a hypey sales letter with a lot of promises
3. Students enrolled, he profited.
4. Many of the members failed
5. He think it's a good time to win the trust of more newbies
6. He creates a video of him confessing
7. He wins the trust of newbies and they think that NOW
he will deliver good stuff
8. The members who had failed think that he's a good "angel"
who spoke the truth out to people.
9. Anik wins!

But then, why wouldn't his LC launch do much better?

That is what this thread is about. Right?

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For Christ Sakes.

He's at a level where Test Test Test means you earn/loose thousands where most
cry when they loose hundreds or a few dollars. Think about it?

Also at his level I'm sure he has figured the odds plus his back end product(s)
will more than likely make up the difference and add to the over all total profit.

I wish him well.

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Unread 12th November 2011, 10:21 PM   #109
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What is this entire discussion about?

Whether $400K is good as a launch figure or not? Don't hope to get an answer that will make a difference to you without knowing whether it is a $400K all in profits or $4million in losses.

Whether an IM product is about selling purely a ddream passed onto generations, or whether it is about selling solid info that makes money? Look, people always buys dreams, but like to think that they are buying solutions. How much of that is being leveraged while remaining "ethical" is gray in many cases, and in fact in most cases.

Whether the gurus try to make a good product or are they out to make their palaces founded upon others' dreams? No matter whether you are a guru or not, you shall almost always try to build your own palace. You shall always sell dreams whenever you are selling an info product - anything that is not "tangible" in the physical sense is probably a dream in some sense or the other (think health realted ebooks, think relationship ebooks, think forex trading guideline ebooks). How much of your client's real needs (not wants) the material fills is again dependent upon the seller.

Whether Anik in this case is trying to sell something genuinely good? No idea, I have not seen the product.

Can IM gurus make money outside the IM niches? I have seen both the classes - one class that definitely make money outside teaching IM and staying within IM niches, and another class that seems to stick to building IM palaces. By the way, have you heard of a breed named school teachers and college professors? Are they not "guru"s in their own rights? Do you think their existence is required?

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what 400k is not good enought LOL.

Think about this for just a second.

1) Do you think anik gives a rats arse what people think?

2) He could not pay for this sort of promotion and stir caused in a high traffic forum. What a smart guy!!!!


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One thing is for sure, Anik doesn't care about what you think.
Looking at some of the reviews posted on LC that sentence is 100% accurate...

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My bigest question about the movie is:
Where did they get the cars of the final scene?

I mean the movie characters. Not one of the poker guys are driving those crap cars. Did they steal the cars of the employees??? I don't get it... hehe

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This is a market that you can never satisfy...Internet Marketing in General, and the WF more specifically.

Person puts out $7 product with an OTO for $47 and the market and people on WF complain; "Just put everything into the original package and charge what it's worth"

Person puts everything into one package and tries to sell it for $54 and the market and people on WF complain; "That's too damn expensive! Are you living in the same economy I am?"

Person with years of experience puts together a truly useful product with great info and a straight forward sales letter explaining exactly what the product is, and sells 23 copies.

Person who never made a dime selling anything online pays a couple grand for coaching to someone that teaches them how to "market", then they start selling "how to make money online" products, even though they've never done it themselves, with blind sales letters, rehashed content, and fake screenshots...They get WSO of the Year, relaunch on Clickbank and sell a million dollars worth of product.

The market consistently says that they want things one way, but when they get it that way...They don't buy because their head tells them that they want it straight forward, but deep down, they want to buy the "dream" - There is evidence of this all over not only this forum, but the internet in general.

Seriously, look in the marketplaces here, and you'll see pretty fast that there's quite a few that are moving big numbers are the same ones that have a story that goes something like " I couldn't make enough month to put a happy meal on layaway...then I started selling WSO's....NOW I'M RICH BITCHES!" LULZ

Ask anyone that is doing even remotely well selling information online, and most of them will tell you...Coming up with GOOD PRODUCTS and GOOD CONTENT is the EASY PART. Learning how to MARKET is what MAKES PEOPLE RICH.

And that is where the problem lies...

Anik could have made a sales video of himself robbing 90 year old women at gun point outside the grocery store, and he still would have made a couple hundred thousand dollars with a decent blind sales letter, and blowing some of the typical smoke up everyones ass.

Is that a bad thing?

Nope...If the content is decent, and he is skilled enough to know how to market himself as the guy who jacked your grandma who is going to teach you how to make some bank....more power to him.

As far as the gurus not coming here because of the social component...lol...really? say what....?

I've seen WSO sellers get popped with fake screenshots twice in 2 weeks, then sell 1,000 copies of a product at $27 3 days later.

I've seen WSO sellers get popped for selling software and content that wasn't even theirs...Then come back a week later and drain 100K into their PP accounts without a single question from the masses.

Theirs a HUGE disconnect between what the market thinks they want, and what THEY BUY, which is why conversations such as the one in this thread will never go away

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It will take them awhile to find it, but sooner or later they will. You are far better off to have solid sites and not have to worry about it

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Considering I currently have roughly 200 domains, I have considered these options just to season the sites, but still question the quality the software produces?

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I'd be happy to make 1% of that amount of a product launch. (Obviously I wouldn't have spent so much on getting to that point).

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How long is the movie?

or

"How much time do people have?"

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1 - $400k seems low for what gurus EXPECT
2 - There is definitely LAUNCH FATIGUE going on around here -- been happening alot
3 - Only the profits matter
4 - He has to give alot away to his affiliates and it is at least 50%, but most likely higher
5 - People are getting WISE to all of the guru HYPE - do they really provide the value that they are saying? especially for the price
6 - People have a limited budget - We think that there is alot of people in IM but really it is a small market - if everyone is being pitched to all the time, no one is going to spend with the majority of gurus. The pie is small.
7 - Affiliates - they may be in the same boat as Stomper Net some years ago. Not enough revenue to pay off the debts (source: salty droid)
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Sorry did I miss the point here?

$400k in revenue in this economic climate, with things looking less than stable? Great revenue, but as was said by Shaun.

Revenue is vanity, profit is sanity, let's face it we all want to make profit with what we create, or we would be pretty lousy business people would we not?

As for $120k profit, that for most of us is probably 3 to 4 years living expenses, so we could retire from work for that long comfortable in the knowledge that we have time to create more products and earn more money.

Never sneeze at any kind of profit, as that is what comes of not doing your forecasting properly, as for Anik, well done for the movie, he did think out of the box for this, but maybe bit off more than he could chew, but at least he has more new buyers on his list, so well done.
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He probably considers this a "bad" launch, money-wise... but there's more to come from it... so a win overall...

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"Tracking this stuff is like counting icebergs: The bulk are underwater." -- Neil MacDonald

I suspect $400K is the tip of the iceberg for Anik.

I watched 15 minutes of the movie and it wasn't terrible. As a branding vehicle. there's no arguing that it's a boost for his personal "guru" brand.

As far as the product, who knows? I can imagine a backroom conversation that went like this:

Anik: "I want to boost my personal brand in a way that's not been done before."

Buddies: "You should launch a new product."

Anik: "I said 'not been done' before. I need something cool. Something far out. Something groovy. Something Frank Kern only wishes he could do."

Buddies: (scratch collective heads)

Anik: "Eureka! I've got it! I'll be the first guru to star in a real action movie!"

Buddies: "Horray!" (Bowing down, kissing the ground in front of Anik.)

Anik: "Now, I can't just launch a movie. I've got to make it relevant to my business. Hmm ..."

Buddies: (Scratching heads again. Puzzled looks on their faces.)

Anik: "I know! I'll tie the movie to an IM product. Remember that thing we sold a few months ago? Let's add some new features and .... "

Buddies: "Hooray!"


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Everybody thinks Apple was disappointed that their new iPhone sold "only" 4,000,000 units in 3 days.

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I've been a long time follower of Anik Singal. But not for his products, but because of his motivational website and leadership skills. $400k? Yeah. That's still pretty good considering Lethal Commission hasn't been out that long! I feel it was more about the customers than the money this time. Because we all know that Anik can hit multi million dollar launches in a weeks time. But I say congratulations to him anyways. It's still good success!

Internet Marketing Movie? More like a "Short Film". Anik obviously put his hard work and time into it, so I give him all of the respect! I only watched 10-12 minutes of it though. Been meaning to finish it!

Has anyone here purchased a copy of the Software? I was curious as the quality of the product. Usually I don't support internet marketing "build-a-site-in-a-minute-with-millions-of-visitors" software, so If anyone thinks Lethal Commission is any different! Fill Me In!

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There is nothing wrong with selling products of different levels of quality but the product must still do what it says it will do in its promotional material. This particular product is software, then so long as it has all the features mentioned (and it actually works) then that's fine.
Of course... of course... that wasn't really the point I was trying to make. The point I was making was that product quality can not be seen on the outside through a blind sales letter. So it wouldn't have mattered if it was a totally kick ass product, or even if there was nothing in there at all... initially, the sales figures would be the exact same.

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Pretty sure other gurus will recalculate how much risk they're gonna have to take to cash in on their next 1 million dollar launch.
Not sure, but Anik must have expected nothing short of a million bucks, but thats IM for you. You dont have to win everyday to nuke it.
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I know nothing about the launch, how much he did or didn't make but either way we're in business, nothing is certain and failure...

... well just get ready for when it's your turn.

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I eat 400k in CASH for breakfast.
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How is this typical??? So you are saying that any individual who does a sales launch in clickbank should expect $400k rev? Come on............
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How is this typical??? So you are saying that any individual who does a sales launch in clickbank should expect $400k rev? Come on............
Successful launches do this and more all the time...

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So what if it's only just about a break even project? Wouldn't you like an extra 30,000 - 40,000 gullible noobs on your list for nothing?

Bear in mind there was the opt in during the prelaunch which would have added thousands of subs, then of course all the buyer leads as well. And it's just about been out for a week. You can be sure there'll be webinars to follow, the latest CB launch will get promoted and no doubt some other stuff thrown in too.

The whole business model revolves around high front end epc and getting as many wide eyed slack jaws onto a sucker list anyway. The launch profit is just the icing on the cake.

As the old saying goes - 'There's only one way to skin a cat, but a thousand ways to fleece it'.

If you can grasp that saying, then you'll grasp the mentality and business model of these CB launches and realise that a break even or even small loss on the product itself is still not a bad result in the grand scheme of things.

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Its the old "sell my ****" product launch that just doesn't work anymore - I know $400K seems great but Im sure hes used to millions - My launches were 6 figures all the time (list of 25k no JV's) and in the last 2 years they slowly went down to the tune of like $25K on a launch. I have since changed my entire method of selling and Im now finally getting back to the old days !
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I started to watch the movie, then all I could think of was...how long IS this thing? I have bought a few information products, and not bought a great many more. At no time do I ever remember thinking, "You know, this sounds good, but I'm about a Bollywood movie from pulling the trigger. If only I could find a way to waste more time for this sales page to get to the point."
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So you think because he made a short movie to promote his product, it might have cost him a fortune? I know from where he got those actors. Give me $10k-15k and I'll make a movie as good as that or possibly even better. No kidding.
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First off I would like to say that Anik Singal is an amazing and honest internet marketer.

With that said, I will have to agree that Lethal Commission was definitely a failure.

But, sometimes failures lead to our greatest successes yet and I am excited to see what comes next from Anik and wish him the best of luck with his next launch.

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I started to watch the movie, then all I could think of was...how long IS this thing? I have bought a few information products, and not bought a great many more. At no time do I ever remember thinking, "You know, this sounds good, but I'm about a Bollywood movie from pulling the trigger. If only I could find a way to waste more time for this sales page to get to the point."


Great post.

Can anyone tell me exactly how long this movie runs? I only have so much time to waste.

I'm sure watching it would be nothing but a waste of time, but if you have time to waste, more power to you.

Just for the fascination of someone actually doing this as part of a launch, if nothing else.

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Im just curious how much was spent on the movie. It had some nice production value.

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It never ceases to amaze me how many suckers are out there, and how little common sense is out there, it's good to see he didn't do as much, maybe some newbies are waking up to the fact it's just a big game of "catch the newbie" with hype and over-promised results. Shame on Anik for jumping on the push-button bandwagon, I don't care how much he's making, he's a sell out, I'd rather make 100k per year actually helping people than 1m a year filling people with false hope. I hope he along with the rest of the online gangsters pushing their crack get what they deserve in the end.

Newbies repeat after me: "I will never make money online buying some hyped up push button software that everyone else is buying", repeat that mantra every day if need be. You will never get rich doing what everyone else is doing, that is wealth accumulation 101. If you want to start making real money online, stop following and start doing.
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Hey Guys,

Was just talking to Jimmy and he said they are over $500K now .. Which is awesome, crappy part is with a 60 Days money back they will likely have around 10 - 15 % refunds. STILL an awesome launch!

I don't think Anik spend much on the videos, he had it done in India So I would think make $40K at most.

Either way, with the issues at clickbank and all our lists crapping out ... I would say it's a very successful launch. The product on the other hand ... We will leave it at that.

Great thread you guys have going here thou.

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Great post.

Can anyone tell me exactly how long this movie runs? I only have so much time to waste.

I'm sure watching it would be nothing but a waste of time, but if you have time to waste, more power to you.

Just for the fascination of someone actually doing this as part of a launch, if nothing else.
I was curious, myself, so I actually downloaded it. It's 58 minutes, 43 or so of which is the actual movie part, and the rest is a sales page in video form.
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It never ceases to amaze me how many suckers are out there, and how little common sense is out there, it's good to see he didn't do as much, maybe some newbies are waking up to the fact it's just a big game of "catch the newbie" with hype and over-promised results. Shame on Anik for jumping on the push-button bandwagon, I don't care how much he's making, he's a sell out, I'd rather make 100k per year actually helping people than 1m a year filling people with false hope. I hope he along with the rest of the online gangsters pushing their crack get what they deserve in the end.

Newbies repeat after me: "I will never make money online buying some hyped up push button software that everyone else is buying", repeat that mantra every day if need be. You will never get rich doing what everyone else is doing, that is wealth accumulation 101. If you want to start making real money online, stop following and start doing.
Couldn't agree more with you, making money ethically is something to be proud of, these push button guys are just the drug dealers of the internet, and yes it's amazing that people actually think they will make money buying this crap. In a struggling economy people are desperate and it's sneaky crooks like Anik preying on them, his wealth is built on selling lies, how he sleeps at night boggles me.
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I didn't watch the movie. I was annoyed, actually, that I had to watch some guy's vanity object just to see what it was. I tried to log off his page and think about it and do some googling on it, but after three capture pages, I grew annoyed and didn't go back. Perhaps he wasn't aiming for the Boomer generation? I figure if it has merit, it will state in plain, basically sound English what it does, how it does it (without giving away secrets), and what it costs. While on that subject, if a pitch page is longer than three pages, and uses brilliant orange and yellow stuff and has over three endorsements, I don't buy. If it doesn't give an amount until I have scrolled through 12 to 15 pages, I won't buy it, and write the name of the im'er in my little red book. I will NOT buy anything ever from anyone in my little red book.
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I type in "Anik Singal" in google, and the next work Google recommends me is "scam".

This is a coincidence?
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Did anybody buy the product and used it??? Is it worth it?

Personally I love Anik's products. It's funny that even the senior warriors are talking about an email sent through some autoresponder and a sales video. But nobody is talking about the product.

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I thought the video they released to promote the product sucked really terrible.

Now that I think of it, the reason it probably sold at all is from all the preselling that was done by others promoting it to their list.
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Leave James Bond alone, will ya?

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Here is the exact jv email that Anik sent out that this thread is referring to:


Hey,

I wanted to send a leaderboard
but Clickbank Analytics have been
down for 2 days now!!

With that- we've reached $400k
in sales and moving towards the
$500k mark TODAY.

So we wanted to do something
REALLY SPECIAL!!!

We've decided to release a BIG contest
this weekend on TOP of the $22,000+
in cash prizes..

For this weekend, starting on
Thurs, Nov 10th 12:01AM CB
time till Sunday Nov 13th 11:59PM
CB time…

Here is what YOU can win:

Most Sales= 5k Cash
Second Place= 2.5k Cash
Third Place= 1K Cash


And if you don't win this, you
STILL have a chance.

20 FRONT END SALES= $100
Amazon Gift Card!

So everyone has a chance
to win something!!!

So, grab your swipes from here:
(link removed)

And thank you for ALL your
support!!!

Talk Soon,

Anik Singal & Jimmy Kim

P.S. If you need anything, please
reply to THIS email.
If you wish to stop receiving our emails or change your subscription options, please
(link removed)

JuJuQ Inc, 100 Lakeforest Blvd Suite 610, Gaithersburg MD, 20877© 2011 All rights reserved.





Note that Lethal Commission officially launched on 11/7/11 and this email was sent out on 11/10/11, only 3-4 of sales.

If you haven't seen the movie yet you should check it out, it was nice to see something different than the usual crap we see.

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No one is denying the fact it's good money... what we ARE saying is if people like Anik cut the hype out and sold products that actually worked he could probably sell a ton more stuff every year. The problem is these guys rely on the fact their products won't get people to the next level. Let's face it, they're not going to have many people to sell to if everyone went off, used their product, and became a success. This is why they keep on spitting out the same old courses one after the other. It's also the reason why they NEED to use hype and weird marketing tactics to sell their stuff. If you're selling awesome products you don't need all these flashy videos to do the selling... the product sells itself and word spreads very quickly.

There is another launch I saw recently where they had used one of these stupid Hollywood type trailers - turned me right off the product. If you need to use this sort of stuff to sell then you're probably better off spending the time and money on making your product better.

These old guru style launches are I think (fingers crossed) becoming less and less effective. Anik would have made very little profit from that launch. It's great to say he made 400k or even a million dollars but once you remove all the commissions, refunds and costs, he would be left with very little... and he has staff to pay, etc.

I saw a thread the other day where people were discussing why we hardly ever see these 'guru's launching their products on the Warrior Forum. The simple reason is the WF provides a unique social proof element where people can comment and leave their honest feedback after making the purchase. This is a great thing IF you have an awesome product... not so great if your product is worthless crap. These types of courses would get destroyed on a forum like this.

* Disclaimer: I have not purchased Aniks course and don't know if it is a great course or not... it might be. I am talking about these 'gurus' in general.
Bingo... just look at Aniks previous releases, there were some threads on here showing what bs products they were and issues with him and his "team" etc. Too lazy to search but if I recall the threads got locked. Anik got called out on his bs and never came back to comment or respond after the heat got to be to much for him lol.
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I have found that the increasing quality of the product directly correlates with decreasing refund rate.

It's pretty simple. Satisfy people's expectations and you reduce refunds. But set ridiculously high expectations and disappoint and expect refunds to be high.
It's actually not that simple... at least, in the market in question.

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It's actually not that simple... at least, in the market in question.
Daniel I usually agree with you but this statement is kinda pinching me a little.

I agree that just have a good product isn't enough to make sales and you need to promote your butt off to make sales but if you meet people's expectations and they are happy for what they paid why would they refund? (and I am not talking about serial refunders here)

I have found (atleast with my products) that if you are able to actually provide what you promise in the salesletter your refunds will be low.

Would there be exceptions? I'm pretty sure but there aren't many.

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Wouldn't you like an extra 30,000 - 40,000 gullible noobs on your list
No. I want the "gullible noobs" off my list.

I like smart people. Independent people. People who think for themselves and do just fine at it, thankyouohsoverymuch, so they don't need your stupid ebook about "how to wipe your arse without getting poop on your hands."

And I don't know about you, but I find my business far more enjoyable when I like my customers instead of holding them in contempt.

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