Newbies Are Darn Lucky These Days!!

[Steve Brown]

O.K. I'm going to show my newbism. How do you make money with a blog? Sorry if it's an insulting question, but I thought blogs were like diaries.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by eaglewingmd

O.K. I'm going to show my newbism. How do you make money with a blog? Sorry if it's an insulting question, but I thought blogs were like diaries.

Well, one simple way to make money with a blog is to put content on the blog ( of course ) and to have those "ads by Goooogle" (adsense ) around the ads.

Blogger.com blogs make this real easy to happen and is a great starter blog.

After you set up your blog you can apply for Google's Adsense program.

When people visit your blog and read your content and then click on one of the ads on your blog you make money and no one has to buy anything.

How much you make per click depends on what niche you're in and the keywords you use.

How much you make for the entire operation also depends of the amount of visitors you get at the blog.

Become a master of traffic generation and you can write your own ticket.


I'd personally rather use a blog to generate visitors to my offers instead of to generate income from/at the blog via Google's Adsense program.


Hope This Helps!!!

TL

[jbarnes77777]

Great post, newbies do have all the resources they need to get started with steps that have been proven to work.

The only negative here is that it is just as easy if not easier for a newbie to get lost in the ocean of information and not get any desired results. AKA not make any money.

You laid out the different money making models very well. I doubt thought that a newbies are able to figure that out without any trusted help. Every marketer wants the newbies to try their model. The result is a knowledgeable newbie with no money to show for it.

I don't think this is the kind of newbie you are calling lucky, is it?

[Steven Wagenheim]

While I don't go nearly as far back as some of these guys (I started in 2003)
I will say this much from what I have personally observed.

While there may be more people in each of the main niches than there were
years ago, you didn't nearly have as many people to sell to. I can't even
imagine trying to make a living in the IM niche in 1999. How many people
were really interested in making money online?

Plus, you didn't have nearly as many ways to promote your business then
as you do now. Some of the tools we have today weren't even a thought
of back then.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd probably choose to start just when I did
and no sooner. 2003 was no picnic trying to find effective ways to get
your business in front of people.

[PaidToEmpower]

Originally Posted by Eric Evans

I see both sides of the argument here, but one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that WAY more people are doing this type of marketing now. There is tons of information for newbies, but you have to work much harder in my opinion these days to make a LOT of money. It's easy to make a little.

B4...10 guys making 10000
Now...10000 guys making 10

Thats how I see it.

But don't give up newbies, rise above, compete!

LOL...never thought of it that way, but I think it is true. Still, even just making "a little" can be just the encouraging boost the newbie needs.

What's that old saying, "if it was easy, EVERYONE would be doing it". So instead we have everyone trying to do it, but those who stick to it WILL succeed, imho.

[jbarnes77777]

At the risk of sounding like a promoter, I just want to say I purchased this $25,000.00 WEEKLY! ✔BONUS: 44 BLACKHAT PRODUCTS! ✔NEW: WSO GONE WILD SECRET

And found it very straight forward, Lance provides lots of value. I have bought $3,000.00 products that don't provide as much value as he does. I am sure anyone who has bought it will strongly agree.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by Eric Evans

synthasite eh??? Do you have any good examples of sites you made with this software? Sorry for slightly going off topic here, but this software looks pretty clean and I'd like to see an example before I test it out.

Thanks!

I'm not going to show you or anyone else my landing pages in the various niches I operate in. Not gana do it. ( too many copy cats )

I just handed you a free website/landing page maker and you want to see examples of what I've done before you test it out?

Have you ever slapped up a webpage or blog page before?

Because if you or anyone else that seeks online income doesn't learn how to do a very basic operation like slapping up pages on the web, chances are you'll never make any real money online. ( this applies to most net business income models )

About Me??

I'm been in 6 figure territory for almost 2 years and 99% of my online income comes from niches that have absolutely nothing to do with helping people make money online.

All I'm trying to do at this forum is to help newbies get off the sickening, bitchin and moaning info-overload-research to death -everything-must be perfect before I do anything boat they're riding straight to never ever make any real money land...

... at the beginning of a golden age for conducting online business.

I couldn't care less if you or anyone else never purchased my how to make money course because my income does not revolve around it - and never will.

TL

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by jbarnes77777

Great post, newbies do have all the resources they need to get started with steps that have been proven to work.

The only negative here is that it is just as easy if not easier for a newbie to get lost in the ocean of information and not get any desired results. AKA not make any money.

You laid out the different money making models very well. I doubt thought that a newbies are able to figure that out without any trusted help. Every marketer wants the newbies to try their model. The result is a knowledgeable newbie with no money to show for it.

I don't think this is the kind of newbie you are calling lucky, is it?

I'm saying that newbies are lucky these days because they simply have tons more how to materials, proven net business models, tools to perform tasks, resources, traffic generation methods, how to videos etc.

More of everything to succeed and much easier to use these days.

But first...

... the newbie must take some time to discover and then declare a proven net business model/plan and doing so will cut through a lot of the info-overload that many newbies claim is slowing down their progress.

Once a net business model is declared the newbie can move on to success and success comes from actually doing.

The vast majority of money-making online business veterans will agree with my core position.

TL

[BigSexy]

Originally Posted by Eric X Vignola

yeah but then do not forget that just because there is more information out there does not mean that it is good. there are step by step plans put together by halfwits on theory and there are step by step plans that are missing vital information forcing people to always by the next step.

i think what is really great about the internet marketing community today is people are lot more willing to SHARE their knowledge. i have found a mentor and have had very helpful information given to me for free just because i was polite and curious. where as before i think people were more guarded.

so, yeah long winded way to say hooray for today!

That's a good point. Unfortunately in my country we are still in the 1st phase, where few people make big bucks online and they keep for themselves their secret...maybe it's time for me to prepare some e-books for the upcoming "infoproduct age".

[axileon]

actually i wonder if newbies always give up after they realised its not that easy to make money online afterall.... not as what all the sales letter promised them to be??

press the button n money comes pouring in?

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by JB777

That's an excellent post for someone that is seeking knowledge of the various models.

And my point is that all newbies that have not declared a net business model must do so or forever be trapped in never make money land because declaring a net business model is the first step and a major key to creating another source of income.

So, if you intend on making any money - research and declare your online business model.


TL

[karlp295]

Easy to find a lot more experienced people who can show you what to do than before is true but a lot more competition than before. It's harder than it was when I started over ten years ago to enter and climb Google for example and require real dedication now. Cant say its ever been easy...

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by karlp295

Easy to find a lot more experienced people who can show you what to do than before is true but a lot more competition than before. It's harder than it was when I started over ten years ago to enter and climb Google for example and require real dedication now. Cant say its ever been easy...

When you talk about ranking the the serps there is a lot more competition but that's just one area related to online business in which it's not easier for newcomers and it's just about the only area.

Traffic from the search engines may still be the holy grail but there are still dozens of other ways to get free ongoing visitors to our offers.


Now vs. 3 years ago...

- Free tools & resources are more abundant and of higher quality:

- More really free websites and blog platforms:

- 10x more methods of marketing - free & paid:

- Videos all over the place on every aspect of online business:

- More proven net business models with video instructions:

- More niches have been developed:

- Now, people do not have any probs spending money online vs. 3 years ago when people were very, very suspicious:

If all of the above is true...

...it must be a lot easier for a newbie ( that's got their head on straight ) to create another source of income using a net based business.

I'm sure 99% of the people who started 3 or 4 years ago and are making good money now will back my position.


TL

Ps. If you don't have a website or blog or never made any decent money before, you're not really qualified to understand the awesome differences between 3-4 years ago and now.

[BigSexy]

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

When you talk about ranking the the serps there is a lot more competition but that's just one area related to online business in which it's not easier for newcomers and it's just about the only area.

Traffic from the search engines may still be the holy grail but there are still dozens of other ways to get free ongoing visitors to our offers.


Now vs. 3 years ago...

- Free tools & resources are more abundant and of higher quality:

- More really free websites and blog platforms:

- 10x more methods of marketing - free & paid:

- Videos all over the place on every aspect of online business:

- More proven net business models with video instructions:

- More niches have been developed:

- Now, people do not have any probs spending money online vs. 3 years ago when people were very, very suspicious:

If all of the above is true...

...it must be a lot easier for a newbie ( that's got their head on straight ) to create another source of income using a net based business.

I'm sure 99% of the people who started 3 or 4 years ago and are making good money now will back my position.


TL

Ps. If you don't have a website or blog or never made any decent money before, you're not really qualified to understand the awesome differences between 3-4 years ago and now.

Is it me or there isn't any free report in the link in your sig?

[jbarnes77777]

I agree with all your posts, I just think it just depends on what angle you are looking at it from. If you look at it from the perspective of a veteran marketer of course you will think newbies are lucky now. That is because certain things have become second nature to you.

Meaning you can easily identify what you need to get to the next step or you can tell with a good degree of accuracy what products/ skills when acquired will help you in your business. For example, if you have been driving traffic using banner ads all this time and you just jot introduced to the idea that "The money is in the list", a veteran will know the right questions to ask in order to implement an opt-in page that actually works (that is people signing up to see your offer).

Guess what a newbie will struggle to build a opt-in page and not have any way of either testing the opt-in page or even getting sign ups. Why? the new be will have to know that he/ she needs to drive traffic to the site. Now what .... something else to learn. When you get introduced to the idea of "The money is in the list", it is not exactly clear for newbies that the list building process is just a piece of the puzzle. It sounds more like the answer to having a list of subscribers that you can sell stuff to over and over again.

So I agree, I just think if a newbie asks the correct questions, whey will certainly have it much, much easier today. Lots of free video tutorials and great information in free reports.

Its like a patient going to the clinic. The patient kind of knows what they are suffering from but have no idea where and how to cure themselves. Even if they did, they might choose a drug that contains something that they are allergic to and die or experience a severe medical condition.... you get the picture.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by Glenn Bradley Cooper

TL, I think this post should become a sticky for a while to really drive your points home.
Your straight shooting is really important and highlights some fundamentals that are all to easily glossed over in the current rampage to rewards trend.
On behalf of the "Noob" armada I thank you

Glenn, I hear so much about info-overload etc. and all I'm trying to do with this thread is to help clear the air and make it much easier for people to move on to a profitable online based
business.

The longer people delay in declaring their online business model the longer before they actually get started with the money making process.

TL

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by dessy01

Thanks for the info outline. Newbies, where you at? This is totally a self expalnatory info for you

Simply get your head on straight and rejoice in your good fortune to be - if you're serious.



TL

[profedu]

am still lost

[Crash878]

sounds great! right now i am starting an affiliate program at the very least i understand that that would be the best route to start on. I am a newbie and i have been doing a ton of research and your right niche affiliate is the way to go. my major issue is understanding the affiliate more and getting some thing coming in.

[Eric X Vignola]

I think regardless of where you are people are always willing to share their success secrets. Especially if they are really wealthy. It does not have to do with the number of people making large sums of money.

You have to understand you do not get rich by hording wealth. That is a fast track to the broke house. You have to SHARE your riches, no matter how small.

Now "riches" can be love, information, money, it can be anything you have that you want more of. If you keep it to yourself you will go nowhere fast.

Just look at the marketers who share information. The more they share for free, the more they just give away the more they make. The bigger the "secret" the larger the pay-off.

Sure you can make money for a little while on your own but it wont last and you will be tired a)from doing all the work yourself b) for seeing such small returns.

Open up and share and you might just be surprised at how much you can make by focusing on giving away instead of just taking in.

[MavisAA]

It does help. I have found if you are willing to invest some time upfront in acquiring the fundamental skills necessary for internet business success and have the right mindset you do not have to stay a newbie for very long.

It's a whole new world that offers amazing possibilities.

[mistermint]

Hi Everybody,

I'm new to warrior and enjoying reading the threads.

Your making some really good points here, I started playing around with a few small on line offers a few years ago. First thing I learnt was some HTML, ftp and then putting pay-pal links on my pages etc, the basics of adwords, spent a fortune to get up and running, learning what I could on the run. So, your new to the IM world and don't really know where to or how to start getting traffic.

IMO is not so difficult these days due to most of the hard work has been done by others, you can start an affiliate business for $7 and even get goog and yahoo coupons to get you going with CPC.

Now, after floundering around for the past couple of years, I realised I needed more income so, decided to give IM a really good go, I am focused, work hard and basically know what I want and what I need to do but, the internet is changing on a daily basis, it appears your only as good as the last guru who's video you saw or mailshot you read.

While yes, you can say the mechanics got easier as all the tools available now help a lot, us newbies are still very small fish in what has become an ocean with, I must add, a fair number of sharks swimming around in. My favourite banners are those with dollars flying out the PC screen.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by MavisAA

It does help. I have found if you are willing to invest some time upfront in acquiring the fundamental skills necessary for internet business success and have the right mindset you do not have to stay a newbie for very long.

It's a whole new world that offers amazing possibilities.

That's all I'm trying to get across to newcomers and those that have been around for some time without breaking through.

Stick with simple but effective online business models such as...


- Niche Affiliate:


- CPA:


- Adsense:


- Domain Investor Model:

If you don't want to build landing pages, generate traffic etc. you can investigate...
where you buy/create domain names and then resell them for profits. Just like owning real estate but lots cheaper.

Don't worry about all the different traffic generation strategies now as it only leads to confusion if you don't have a business model.

Do your research, declare your online business model and lots of confusion and info-overload will be vanquished.



Times have never been better for those with their heads screwed on straight!

TL

[BrashImpact]

Originally Posted by Eric Evans

I see both sides of the argument here, but one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet is that WAY more people are doing this type of marketing now. There is tons of information for newbies, but you have to work much harder in my opinion these days to make a LOT of money. It's easy to make a little.

B4...10 guys making 10000
Now...10000 guys making 10

Thats how I see it.

But don't give up newbies, rise above, compete!

Yes but, there are 1000 more times people on teh web now, and more
coming every day. Its all True Dynamics, Real estate hasnt change in
100 years, however the way its done has, and there is mo opportunity for
wealth today than a 100 years ago. Attitude not aptitude determines your altitude.

People are so conditioned to think small nowadays, BIG, think BIG, they dont, and thanks too Texting, and Email, there are fewer and fewer people with People and business Skillz.

Theres more opportunity now, even in this economy than there has ever been in the History of the planet, u just gotta know how to harvest the wealth.

Think Big Newbies, you gotta start somewhere.

Regards,
Robert Nelson

[bedeiah]

That is interesting info. I am a newbie and have made a little money with Google adsense, and have made some with promoting other people's products.
I pray things improve quickly so I make much more money. But thanks.

[TLTheLiberator]

You're welcome!

You mentioned prayer so I hope you'll permit me to proclaim...

God helps those that help themselves.

I think it means that God appreciates the mature attitudes and most importantly the actions of those that don't mind taking action instead of hoping something happens with their internet based business.

What are your plans to expand your net based earnings?

God Bless!

TL

[mistermint]

Good point TLT

I'm going to stick at it and try different ways of earning a crust. The only thing which really annoys me is this, I get constant comments from my family like " You've been playing on the computer for hours"

Even if your new or experienced it is a must do to keep tweaking, improving your pages, campaigns etc constantly, unless your very very lucky, there is no autopilot millions as far as I'm aware.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by mistermint

Good point TLT

I'm going to stick at it and try different ways of earning a crust. The only thing which really annoys me is this, I get constant comments from my family like " You've been playing on the computer for hours"

Even if your new or experienced it is a must do to keep tweaking, improving your pages, campaigns etc constantly, unless your very very lucky, there is no autopilot millions as far as I'm aware.

If you're married, simply help your wife understand what you're trying to do for the family.

There's nothing wrong with working on your business and not in your business to insure the steady flow of your profits.

But...

Autopilot income comes into play when you're not doing a lot of personal work but the income is ongoing and steady.

Perhaps all you're doing is monitoring your numbers to make sure they at least stay steady.


For the millions you mentioned, lots and lots of visitors are necessary.

The autopilot income can also come into play when you have tweaked a sales process that's very predictable and your traffic generation is on autopilot:


There are 3 ways that I know of that can be used for autopilot traffic generation:

1: Working on your business so that you'll eventually be...

- receiving tons of free traffic from the search engines:

You get high listing in the search engines and you stay there with minimal monthly upkeep/work:

2: Or you're...

- Outsourcing your traffic generation:

Paying people to do traffic generation actions for you.

3: Or you're...

Buying a lot of visitors:

Example:

PPC or Google's Site Placement Advertising Programs or the dozens of other sources and methods of simply paying for visitors.


For autopilot millions you need a lot of visitors to one offer or a whole lot of offers.

I mean a lot of visitors!

Example: ( with the niche affiliate model )

500,000 total visitors per month free or paid or combo:

( this will probably have to be at least 10-15-20 different offers across different niches )

and...

1% eventually purchase a product/service in which you earn $20 a pop: ( per sale )

(500,000 x 1%)

That would come to __________ sales x $20 per sale = _______________.


That = ___________ income per month x 12 months = ______ per year.


The math comes out to $100,000.00 per month x 12 months = $1,200,000.00 per year:

This type of income is highly possible and I'm sure some folks are doing this and much better.

How much of that 1.2 million per year you keep depends on how you promote- free or paid or combo and how much it will cost you right?.


It just something that you should aspire to work your way up to.

I advocate, working hard and smart in your business to earn income so that you can eventually turn that income into autopilot income by one or more of the traffic tactics I mentioned above.

As soon as you're making at least $500 per month - look for ways to use the money to ease your workload etc - but still make money money than when you had to do the work yourself.

As soon as possible start looking for ways to outsource and automate as much as possible.

This should be the goal of most every online business person.

It may not be in the millions but everyone should shoot for 100k and it all starts by declaring a net business model and taking advantage of this wonderful opportunity we have using a net based business.

Hope This Helps!!

TL

Ps. There are people making great money without doing a whole lot of work themselves and you can eventually get there also.

PPS. IMHO, everything is much easier in niches that have nothing to do with selling how to make money materials.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by Josh Anderson

Yep...

When I started out there were far fewer networking and promotional channels. It was far more difficult to get your foot in the door.

Now with video sharing sites, blogs, rss directories, podcast portals, social bookmarking, social networking etc. there are tons of legitimate ways to get your message out and viewed.

Take it from Mr. Anderson, it's a whole lots easier for newbies these days to do everything and to find success!


TL

[Traffic101]

I agree. I just recently purchased a fully automated site for $20.00. All I had to do was upload it to my ftp server, and it was online. It's over 1500+. For the past two years I've been trying to promote my blog, when really all I had to do was spend $20 on this website.

To say the least I am happy, very happy. This website has 1500+ of content rich pages with google adsense. If I was to make my own it would take me years to get it this far along. I haven't made much money cause I just got it yesterday, but I am very excited. If it wasn't for all the methods, and all the help you can find on the internet, I would be no where. So thanks to all the products I bought to find what works. And of course this forum.

[gaptel]

This is a great write up for all newbies... its like options of IM success road maps ..just to choose based on your personality and what you want to achieve.

Thanks for posting this

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by gaptel

This is a great write up for all newbies... its like options of IM success road maps ..just to choose based on your personality and what you want to achieve.

Thanks for posting this

You're welcome!

All I'm trying to do is the help folks understand how special these times are for those that seriously want to achieve success.

TL

[krezi]

To all the newbies, the key to success online is heavily correlated to an understanding and application of seo! Plain and simple.

Without understanding how to optimize your web pages for search engine optimization, you'll most likely spend a lot of money on marketing and promotion programs without really knowing where your money is going.

So my recommendation is to learn as much as you can about seo and apply all of what you learn because there are so many methods you can optimize your web pages without breaking the bank.

[Charann Miller]

Tell me about it back then I was wondering why on earth I needed an autoresponder, it's like cellphones where you never really know why you need it until you have it, now I couldn't imagine not having it, amazing how things change over time and if you think about it it wasn't all that long ago either.

Imagine where IM will be in 10 short years from now.

Originally Posted by Steven Wagenheim

While I don't go nearly as far back as some of these guys (I started in 2003)
I will say this much from what I have personally observed.

While there may be more people in each of the main niches than there were
years ago, you didn't nearly have as many people to sell to. I can't even
imagine trying to make a living in the IM niche in 1999. How many people
were really interested in making money online?

Plus, you didn't have nearly as many ways to promote your business then
as you do now. Some of the tools we have today weren't even a thought
of back then.

If I had to do it all over again, I'd probably choose to start just when I did
and no sooner. 2003 was no picnic trying to find effective ways to get
your business in front of people.

[John Henderson]

Originally Posted by TLTheLiberator

How do you plan to earn income??


Here are a few suggestions:

TLTL,
If you check out the link below, you'll see how far back I asked for a "menu of options" to show us newbies what kinds of IM businesses were available so that we could choose the one that best suited us (see number '2' on the list):

10 problems newbies have

You've now provided that menu. Thank you very much.

John Henderson.

[mistermint]

Just posted this another thread regarding erm marketing money making systems.

I do promote a couple of how to systems but, I always buy in to them first to see if they are any good. One I'm promoting right now is possibly the best so far, it would (it has) saved a newbie like me a great deal of time and shown a lot of shortcuts. The tutorials are great and has multi business systems.

IMO what happens is, a newbie only get's part of the puzzle, very rarely can you buy in to a system which is very complete with step by step instructions and examples.

Main point is your start up budget, the more cash you have available and provided your not floundering around and wasting it then, logically, the numbers will work for you. Quite a few people are making a good living from flipping ebay items, domain names, web sites etc.

If your on a limited budget then, you have to use the many free resources available such as, squidoo, blogger and article posts. There is a tonne of stuff out there for free, not always good but, it is free.

In many IM success stories, think it is fair to say most started from hard times with limited or no spare money. Important thing is, never forget where you came from and the people who helped you on your way, always help others when you can.

You can't hit the target if you don't know what your aiming at.

[dmhinman]

I personally think that newbies are willing to spend more time on their dreams. They thrive on motivation to keep pushing forward.

[pj413]

I have chosen to begin my internet marketing career with the niche affiliate model & after I get the hang of things I will create my own info product to sale. This thread has been very helpful to me, and I must say thank you to TLTL for creating this tread.

Does anyone recommend a step by step guide that I can pick up in WSO, Which will guide me through the niche affiliate plan?

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by pj413

I have chosen to begin my internet marketing career with the niche affiliate model & after I get the hang of things I will create my own info product to sale. This thread has been very helpful to me, and I must say thank you to TLTL for creating this tread.

Does anyone recommend a step by step guide that I can pick up in WSO, Which will guide me through the niche affiliate plan?

This sounds like a person that's going places - profitable online business land.

Why?

PJ has buckled down and chosen a online business model and now he's looking for step by step info and tools on conducting the plan.

Because PJ has done some strategic thinking and made that initial choice, he won't experience the massive confusion and info-overload numerous others will be saddled with who have summoned the willpower to make that critical choice of a net business model.

Congrats are in order PJ, you're definitely on the right track.

All The Best In Your Quest!

TL

[mistermint]

Hi PJ: Very positive attitude well done!

You don't need to reinvent the wheel these days hence, this thread spells it out for everyone.

Good Luck!!

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by williamprofet

Thanks for the useful post, Man!

Just trying to get these newbies and non earners off the snide help them understand how god they've got it if they would just focus and apply.


TL

[mistermint]

Hi,

IMO when you start out it is easy to jump from one opportunity to another, I've done myself, the right way I think is to be good at one aspect at a time otherwise, you become a jack of all trades and master of none.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by Avnery

Thats fine advice to all Newbies perhaps i should add they must be willing to put in lots of time and keep their imaginations fresh

Yes they are extremely lucky in these days and times. If only they wold believe it and get busy finding an online business model right for them.

You're right, they must also be willing to put in the time and most importantly take strategic actions that will lead them to profitable online business land.


TL

[brandonhess]

All the business plans are not the answer. I think that You need to find a great sponsor, and a great program. I think that all sponsors should help their referrals as much as they can. Otherwise they will have a lot of dead weight in their downline.

I personally try to do all I can for anyone who joins me in my 2 programs. If they need me I am there. If your referrals get lost and cannot figure things out, they are of no use.

Think about it.

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by brandonhess

All the business plans are not the answer. I think that You need to find a great sponsor, and a great program. I think that all sponsors should help their referrals as much as they can. Otherwise they will have a lot of dead weight in their downline.

I personally try to do all I can for anyone who joins me in my 2 programs. If they need me I am there. If your referrals get lost and cannot figure things out, they are of no use.

Think about it.

Looks like you're promoting what I feel and know is the absolute worst net business model available - mlm.

10x more people have been successful with those plans you mentioned than mlm.

When you look at the vast majority of people that have failed and quit with their net business 90% of them have been victims of mlm or team building, network marketing, downline building - or whatever their calling it.

MLM sounds easy to do but in fact all you're doing is making someone else like the people that created the program rich.

You'll learn sooner or later.

TL

[BestWarry]

the main problem facing noobs now is the great confusion arising from information overload...so many choices could create people jumping all around and lacking focus...just like me lol.

[mistermint]

Hi, that was my point^

" Systems don't fail mostly people fail to impliment them properly"

IMO people fail to try off line marketing to support thier business, why not do both?

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by JB777

That's an excellent post for someone that is seeking knowledge of the various models.

JB777, I'm just trying to clear the air so that youngsters can understand the awesome opportunity available to them.

Once again youngin, remove the info-overload and confusion and simply research/get/find/piece together or purchase a online business plan/model and do get busy before the masses catch on and it really gets super-super competitive out here in every niche market imaginable.


TL

[TLTheLiberator]

Originally Posted by Crash878

sounds great! right now i am starting an affiliate program at the very least i understand that that would be the best route to start on. I am a newbie and i have been doing a ton of research and your right niche affiliate is the way to go. my major issue is understanding the affiliate more and getting some thing coming in.

Are you starting an affiliate program because you have your own product or do you mean you are about to start promoting affiliate programs as soon as you get some more understanding??

They are two completely different online business models.

TL

[Robinlee]

Well Im a newby going on one year now and I will tell you I have learned alot. Pretty much my take on the whole thing of Internet Marketing is that for 90% of us all, the chances of becoming financially independent is remote and very much a dream.

I've just about been thru it all. You name IT ebooks of all kinds, affiliated websites (some of which I fail to know where its located). I guess you could say that I suffer a great deal from Information Overload and Analysis Paralysis (although I just recently came to know what it is called for lack of better word). This is probably because most of the money in Internet Marketing is being made from selling the information about Internet marketing rather than sellers putting those principals to practice (you know just sell it to some poor dumb naive slob who wants to learn IM...there's plenty of us out here)

It has become quite obvious to me that everyone (including their mother-in-laws) want to do Internet Marketing. This includes those that are knowledgeable and unknowledgeable. I often wonder with this kind of competition on the net who would be so willing to pass out really genuine useful information?

That would be like passing out your secret weapon.

The competition has just become unmerciful and the marketers of Im materials are probably just sitting back laughing.

Although I've managed to savior a few trophies among the junk I have collected along the way, from here on in its going to take an act of God to get into my wallet. Im about 30 days from my credit card being brought down to a zero balance after much sacrifice and from then on in Im takin a firmer stance on what I buy over the internet. Every decision must be made based on thorough research and investigation and if it can't be validated by what I consider reliable sources (one of which is Warrior Forum) "sayanotta".

From listening and reading some of the posts in this forum and other forums on the net, there seems to be an addiction syndrom associated with Internet Marketing. Some people just can't let go of the dream of being a successful Internet Marketer. I for one don't intend to be counted
among them. Right now I am about 3/4 of the way to "THE BIG DECISION" which is rather Internet Marketing is worth the time and the money. Folks I have just got to CRACK DOWN.

I've had the opportunity to chat with some of the greatest people you ever wanted to meet on-line that were Internet Marketers (some right here in Warrior Forum). They were very courageous and to me that represents a real guru. After much considerable investment in terms of money and time they have elected to toss in the towel on Internet Marketing.......and that takes guts... I intend to follow suit by the date of 2010....the new year if I don't start seeing some better results. I feel this is necessary to move on and see what else life has to offer. Hopefully the lessons I have learned in Internet Marketing will be applicable to what ever interests I choose to take on in the future.
Thats pretty much my take. How that for maturity??