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Old 05-24-2009, 08:43 PM   #101
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You have said it, if a new IM just takes a proven plan and puts the work into it, they will make money. I started setting ups blogs and using adsense to monitize them just last year, and I now make my full time income from IM.

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Old 05-25-2009, 05:05 AM   #102
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Hi Guys, I'm pretty much like Robinlee. Have been playing around with IM for quite some time. This year decided that I would really give it a good go!

Christmas I run an adwords campaign for wii downloads from Clickbank, it was going really well one day I even made over $800, in my ignorance google just about banned me for copyright etc even, a lot of IM's were doing exactly the same thing. Anyway, the product got pulled from CB and the sales dwindled.

My next venture was MSN loophole, this cost me a lot of time and money, the 30 odd sites I put together with 10 bloggs has so far failed to pay off after 5 months, maybe it needs longer, some sites did hit page 1 and 2 on google though, traffic was slow. Have now started to modify the sites to have adsense, and waiting.

Tried Maverick Money Maker but, most of the content was for the very inexperienced while the logic was sound the methods didn't really pay well, not for me anyway. When I hear that some IM's are spending close to $100K per month on pay per click then, way out of my league. Flipping cameras on ebay and putting signs out on the road didn't really appeal either.

Getting back to what Robinlee is saying: I was feeling the same way, just kind of leave whats running running and give it to the end of the year however, I'm not one to quit and not frightened of hard work leads me to a kind of funny story that happend to me this weekend.

Had been really tired on Satruday night so took myself to bed early around 9-30pm, fell in to a deep sleep ( no I didn't see God in a dream and he showed me the way in IM). At 4am I was awakened by a knocking on the door, thought it was my wife home from night duty and forgot her keys, went downstairs half asleep, to find it was the guy next door home from a drinking session and locked himself out, he was the one knocking at the door, second looked at the clock to see it was 4am, made some coffee, by this time I'm kind of waking up, went on the computer to do the usual stuff email etc.

The first email I opened was from a guy at paydot, how he made $41K on adsense, thinking yeah sure though, I hear google have the UPS club to whom they send cheques for $10K and up by UPS every week. What the hell, nothing much to do at 4am so I went to his squeeze page, the more I looked the more the penny dropped.

What was the offer, a complete fully optimised adsense ready site with hundreds of articles on a variety of topics plus, a lot of automated video pages, the whole deal is 1600 pages, the vendor says he started making just $1 per page per month then it snowballed to $41K per month. OK I thought, I can see the logic because as many say "content is king". Next I'm thinking, this will cost a packet, the complete deal is $20, took me about 10 seconds to jump in and buy it. It was exactly what I was looking for, in fact I had just paid a guy $50 to create a search page for one site but, it can't hold a candle to the $20 deal with 1600 pages.

My biggest fear was having to change my adsense ID in 1600 pages but, there is a search & replace software with it, I'm tweaking but, it took less than 1 hour to get the complete thing live. I also signed up for the affiliate.

So Robinlee, keep at it and lets hope we can stay up with AndrewL.

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Old 05-25-2009, 06:30 AM   #103
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If there are more people getting into it, that means there are more customers too yay! Benefits. The bad part is that 1,672 people promote "work at home" today... when there are like 2 people promoting the 'useful niches'.

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Old 05-26-2009, 02:30 AM   #104
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What are you lost about? How to include a live link in your signature?

You have a most amazing website as your forum signature. Is that your website? Are you really telling others that they can make a fortune with forex trading, in their sleep, with no computer? Wow! If you know how to do what that blogspot website claims to do for others, what in the world would you be doing here at a thread for newbies? You must be a millionaire yourself, right? I mean you know how to make tons of money in your sleep without a computer, right?

Oh, pardon me, perhaps that is not your website. Perhaps you are out forum spamming for someone else and getting paid to do that. Well, that certainly is one type of income stream. But the person did not get their money's worth here.

Yes, I am flippant. Yes, I am irritated. Others feel free to agree with me or flog me.

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Old 05-26-2009, 03:41 AM   #105
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Hi thtehlibrator you are right but add to it too many scam and junky informations .
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the internet has afforded newbies like myself the opportunity to not only learn from the guru but has shown me Free Opportunities to start out an online business. When you have a limited budget start out with these freebies become gold to you in internet marketing.

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Old 05-26-2009, 06:44 AM   #107
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i disagree, i think its a whole lot harder for newbies these days,

back in the 90s earning money online was easy as taking candy from a baby. things have gotten far more complicated since then and competition has increased like crazy.

there maybe more people talking about IM but that doesnt mean its easy,
i can talk about being the best footballer in the world but it doesnt mean i am.

more competition + more complex search engines amongst other things = harder for noobs

just my opinion
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i disagree, i think its a whole lot harder for newbies these days,

back in the 90s earning money online was easy as taking candy from a baby. things have gotten far more complicated since then and competition has increased like crazy.

there maybe more people talking about IM but that doesnt mean its easy,
i can talk about being the best footballer in the world but it doesnt mean i am.

more competition + more complex search engines amongst other things = harder for noobs

just my opinion
I agree with you daveo342.

With the sharp rise in unemployment thousands are trying IM for a living, finding it not as easy as it looks and giving up. IMO the ones supplying the tools are making money from the influx of new people.

The get rich quick shemes are also flourishing but, you have to treat it like a business, invest and see what the return is, experiment and split test everything.

What works for one person may not work for another, I watched a video of a top IM guy who's niche is auto insurance, he has 700 web sites and spends over $100K per month with adwords. Takes the view if for example you spend $50K on a campaign with a return of $60K then there is a profit. Money goes to money every time.

If your starting out then, you have to go steady with the finances, it is very easy to blow away money and get little or nothing in return. All the gurus say they started with nothing, lost money in the early days.

The next fatal error is to jump from one thing to another, have done this myself so many times. It is vital to research your niche, reverse engineer the competition, test and keep testing until you hit on something good.

Aim at developing your own product so you can have thousands of affiliates to promote it, this will explode your traffic and your bank account almost over night, this is auto pilot business.

You can plonk around on the free social stuff you may get lucky who knows, in general IM is IMO "how long is a piece of string".

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Old 05-27-2009, 07:11 AM   #109
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To the doubters...

I understand your feelings, especially if you're having a hard time but 99% of "money making" online business vets will not agree with you and for very good reason.

They were involved then and they are involved now and it's a world of difference for newbies.

- Now you have tons of video courses to show you what to do and when to do it for most any online business model you choose to use:

- Now there are more proven net business models to choose from:

- Now there are more clearly defined groups of people to market to:

- Now there are more affiliate products and services for the people of these niches:

- Now there are tons more online business softwares and services to help use do what we need to do easier, faster and cheaper:

- Now there are more channels and methods of advertising than years ago:

It's no contest.

Regarding get rich schemes, most of them revolve around some sort of mlm etc.

Stay away from that crap and deal with proven online business models and you've increased your chances for success 1000%.

I never said it was easy but I am saying it's 10X easier for a complete newbie to create an profitable online business today verses just a few short years ago.

Hope This Helps!!

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