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If you had a list of all WSO buyers, how big would it be?

by Ron Douglas
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If you had a list of all WSO buyers, how big would your list be?

I know only Allen would have this information but I thought it would be fun to see what people come up with.

What do you think?
#big #buyers #list #wso
  • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
    That's a tough question Ron.

    Knowing that people don't have to be a WF member to purchase a WSO
    I would say that the number is pretty large.

    Guessing that 80-85% of members have at one time or another purchased
    a WSO and Guessing that 40-60% of unregistered visitors may have purchased
    a WSO, I'm going to guess that if you only count repeat buyers once the magic
    number could be 1,234,567.

    Have a Great Day!
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    • Profile picture of the author SteveDolan
      Who Knows - but it would be one serious email list!
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    • Profile picture of the author Your Brand Ebooks
      Originally Posted by Michael Mayo View Post

      Guessing that 80-85% of members have at one time or another purchased
      a WSO and Guessing that 40-60% of unregistered visitors may have purchased
      a WSO, I'm going to guess that if you only count repeat buyers once the magic
      number could be 1,234,567.
      I think your math is off. I came up with 1,234,544

      Another way to figure it out, is using sample extrapolation and knowing that "WSO Of The Day" sellers often claim they've had 1,500 purchases... some say 2,500 purchases. So you can probably look thru WSO listings then make an educated guess of the sales numbers from the bigger sellers over a small chunk of time, then extrapolate from that sample, to determine the all-time number of purchases.

      But all that hurts my brain. But probably the easiest way to go is to forge an email like it's coming from Allen, then send it to Lantz, asking "hey bud so how many wso purchasers do you think we got so far?
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  • Profile picture of the author WillR
    I'm not sure how Allen would have this information?

    I think the only person who would have the most informed idea would be Mike Lantz.

    Judging by the amount of traffic he can send to an offer, anywhere from maybe 4,000 - 8,000, if we assume an average open rate of 10% he would have a list of around 80,000. Take into account those people who are not on his list but still purchase WSO's and I think it would be fair to guess around the 100,000 mark, give or take a little.

    But that's a wild guess.
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      I'm not sure how Allen would have this information?

      I think the only person who would have a really good idea would be Mike Lantz.
      Right, I'm thinking WSO sellers lol duh. I guess Lantz would have a better idea than anyone.
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      • Profile picture of the author WillR
        Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

        Right, I'm thinking WSO sellers lol duh. I guess Lantz would have a better idea than anyone.
        Although considering Mike's business model relies heavily on the fact Allen allows it, I think you are right in assuming Allen would have very easy access to this kind of information
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      • Profile picture of the author Michael Mayo
        Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

        Right, I'm thinking WSO sellers lol duh. I guess Lantz would have a better idea than anyone.
        Well that changes things a bit...lol

        My answer is TOOOO DAMN MANY.

        ~MM~
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    • Profile picture of the author Your Brand Ebooks
      Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

      I know only Allen would have this information
      Originally Posted by WillR View Post

      I'm not sure how Allen would have this information?

      I think the only person who would have the most informed idea would be Mike Lantz.
      Mike Lantz... and Paypal.
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  • Profile picture of the author George Wright
    If I had a list of all WSO buyers I would own the elusive magic bullet, set it and forget it, instant cash, etc. I.E. the thing that would allow me to make thousands a month and really, really, really, do nothing.

    Alas, the Magic Bullet doesn't exist.

    Or Does It?

    True Story. A very good friend of mine was asked to do some copy for a very large company that owns a massive list.

    When negotiating his pay for this little job he asked not to be paid anything except that he be allowed one mailing of his product to the list. The list was entertainment targeted and his product was travel related.

    Within days after the mailing he had $30,000 worth of sales for his pay.

    He asked to do the deal again and the Company said no way that was a one time deal.

    Long story short, (too late) that WSO buyers list mentioned in the OP, if handled with care would be priceless.

    EDIT: I see that it was posted while I was typing this "I'm thinking sellers." In that case, same as above, only better.

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    • Profile picture of the author JOBell
      Originally Posted by George Wright View Post

      If I had a list of all WSO buyers I would own the elusive magic bullet, set it and forget it, instant cash, etc. I.E. the thing that would allow me to make thousands a month and really, really, really, do nothing.

      Alas, the Magic Bullet doesn't exist.

      Or Does It?

      True Story. A very good friend of mine was asked to do some copy for a very large company that owns a massive list.

      When negotiating his pay for this little job he asked not to be paid anything except that he be allowed one mailing of his product to the list. The list was entertainment targeted and his product was travel related.

      Within days after the mailing he had $30,000 worth of sales for his pay.

      He asked to do the deal again and the Company said no way that was a one time deal.

      Long story short, (too late) that WSO buyers list mentioned in the OP, if handled with care would be priceless.

      EDIT: I see that it was posted while I was typing this "I'm thinking sellers." In that case, same as above, only better.

      George Wright
      How big was this list he sent to you think and did your friend collect the emails from the people who clicked in the mailing?
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  • Profile picture of the author drmani
    Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

    If you had a list of all WSO buyers, how big would your list be?...
    What do you think?
    You asked "what do I think", Ron, so here goes...

    Members: 385,648

    Assuming non-members are about the same number, the total potential
    prospect pool adds up to 770,000

    At around 15% buyers, that's 115,000

    Not everyone buys WSOs, and not even everyone who is vocal on the
    WSO discussions is a buyer!

    Not all 'usernames' are unique members, either.

    So that's my 'best guesstimate'

    All success
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    P.S. - A far more exciting metric would be the size of lists of
    REPEAT buyers of WSOs... and my guess is that would be 80% or
    higher of the overall buyer base!
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    • Profile picture of the author DaveHughes
      Originally Posted by drmani View Post

      P.S. - A far more exciting metric would be the size of lists of
      REPEAT buyers of WSOs... and my guess is that would be 80% or
      higher of the overall buyer base!
      That...would be like landing the chocolate concession rights at the national Weight Watchers convention.
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    • Profile picture of the author absolutelee
      Originally Posted by drmani View Post

      P.S. - A far more exciting metric would be the size of lists of
      REPEAT buyers of WSOs... and my guess is that would be 80% or
      higher of the overall buyer base!
      If not higher. The nature of the WSO buyer is that they buy multiple WSO's. I suspect that percentage might be as high as 95%.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rod Cortez
    Nah, everyone's got it all wrong. It's actually only about 1,000 people, and they each buy dozens of WSOs every week. And like the Energizer bunny, they just keep on going and going and going........lmao

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  • Profile picture of the author rezaafriadi
    a list of many buyers who are its real money. and of course Allen has a list of all transactions in the Warrior forum
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    • Profile picture of the author Bill Farnham
      Originally Posted by rezaafriadi View Post

      a list of many buyers who are its real money. and of course Allen has a list of all transactions in the Warrior forum
      How could he. Those "BUY" buttons go to pages off the WF.

      ~Bill
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      • Profile picture of the author rezaafriadi
        that's just my guess.. pardon me if I'm wrong

        Originally Posted by Bill Farnham View Post

        How could he. Those "BUY" buttons go to pages off the WF.

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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    It's an easy answer. The number of people who have been
    WSO buyers = ALL OF THEM! LOL.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fraggler
    Originally Posted by Ron Douglas View Post

    If you had a list of all WSO buyers, how big would your list be?
    It would have to be at least 7.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sleaklight
    pfft, it's a conspiracy, there are no buyers, Just random numbers going up and down in our paypal accounts
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    • Profile picture of the author Ron Douglas
      Originally Posted by Sleaklight View Post

      pfft, it's a conspiracy, there are no buyers, Just random numbers going up and down in our paypal accounts
      I suspected that all along LOL. As long as they go up more than down this is one conspiracy I can live with .
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        • Profile picture of the author WillR
          Originally Posted by Pat Jackson View Post

          Obviously there would be quite a few people who bought multiple WSO's but I think if you were to include all of the non-WSO Pro sales there would have to be well over a million individual WSO buyers.
          Say what?!

          A million WSO buyers?

          I think it's pretty well known that the WSO forum is not a massively large group of people buying a small number of items... it's a smaller group of people buying a large number of items.

          When I say small, I still think we are talking around the 100,000 mark but I can't see a figure of 1,000,000 being reality. I guess we'll never know.
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    I doubt it because some people sell thousands of copies of their WSOs.
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  • Profile picture of the author blillard
    I would say at everyone that is on the forum plus the guest that browse. I'm sure at one point we all paid for a wso and there are 300,000 plus members on the forum.

    I know there is no way of really telling but I'm it is a lot more then we will ever be able to guess or imagine. You would have to consider the people who left the scene as well who might not of opted-out. But that is a good question though.
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  • Profile picture of the author Coby
    Probably not as big as your cooking list
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