I Desperately Need Your Help?

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I recently started a great service, after the encouragement of great warriors here.

Problem is, getting clients is the hardest part so far.

After an ad at the ad section on this forum yielded very little sales, I am left wondering what else I can do to land clients that can benefit very well from the service.

Your input will be appreciated!
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  • Profile picture of the author laurencewins
    Advertise in other places?
    Classified ad sites, your own site ( if you have one) other forums, Facebook and many other places.
    You have to try everything possible.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
      I am willing to go the extra mile, and I have tried ad sites. One thing I have not tried though is Facebook, so i will definitely give it a go

      Thanks for your input, its appreciated!

      Originally Posted by laurencewins View Post

      Advertise in other places?
      Classified ad sites, your own site ( if you have one) other forums, Facebook and many other places.
      You have to try everything possible.
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  • Profile picture of the author Robert H Cwik
    Have you considered PPC and offline advertising, too?
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
      Originally Posted by robertcwik View Post

      Have you considered PPC and offline advertising, too?
      Hi Robert,

      I will definitely look at PPC once a bit of money starts coming through, because I do not have a budget right now.

      As for offline advertising, my country is not huge on IM.

      Thanks for the input though . . .
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      • Profile picture of the author DianaHeuser
        Originally Posted by Lisa Paule View Post

        As for offline advertising, my country is not huge on IM.
        Lisa

        It's bigger than you think. The difference is that we have to do work face-to-face with people in South Africa.

        When you are chatting to people, mention what you do. It's amazing how many people say "Could you do that for my business?" when I have explained exactly what I do on the internet.

        Your target market in South Africa is the small business owner with about 3 to 4 employees. Start talking to people.

        You need to network more. Take a look at this site www.27dinner.com and come along on the 28th of November.

        Di

        P.S. I am going
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        • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
          Originally Posted by DianaHeuser View Post

          Lisa

          It's bigger than you think. The difference is that we have to do work face-to-face with people in South Africa.

          When you are chatting to people, mention what you do. It's amazing how many people say "Could you do that for my business?" when I have explained exactly what I do on the internet.

          Your target market in South Africa is the small business owner with about 3 to 4 employees. Start talking to people.

          You need to network more. Take a look at this site www.27dinner.com and come along on the 28th of November.

          Di

          P.S. I am going

          thanks Di, i will definitely check it out and will come along.

          Thanks a lot . . . I am getting excited already.
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  • Profile picture of the author Scott Million
    Originally Posted by Lisa Paule View Post

    I recently started a great service, after the encouragement of great warriors here.

    Problem is, getting clients is the hardest part so far.

    After an ad at the ad section on this forum yielded very little sales, I am left wondering what else I can do to land clients that can benefit very well from the service.

    Your input will be appreciated!
    Yup, "getting clients" is definitely the biggest challenge for any business.

    The Warriors for Hire section is a good place to post services, but to be brutally honest after taking a look at what you offer I don't think you'll blow up there, or anywhere.

    If you want to make some serious money in the backlink providing arena I'd either study what successful providers are offering in the WSO section (and outside the forum) or consider targeting a different clientele, for example 'ranking' business owner's websites instead of providing backlink options to marketers.

    The backlinks to marketers market is very saturated and to break into there with huge success you'll have to offer more than multiple backlinks from one article directory. One thing that will make your service instantly more attractive, though, is 3-4 backlinks from 10 article directories vs. 30-40 from one (Article Base, right?)

    Also, if you're sold on providing backlink services to marketers, article backlinks aren't the most attractive... you'd do much better offering forum / profile high PR links, which is more in line with the 'craze' at the moment.
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    • Profile picture of the author bostoncitymass
      Did you just put the ad up yesterday for the first time?
      I wouldn't get discouraged that you didn't get much of a response.
      It takes awhile for things to get traction. Don't give up after one day, that is the biggest mistake that 99% of people make. Stick with it and keep working at it.
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      • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
        Originally Posted by bostoncitymass View Post

        Did you just put the ad up yesterday for the first time?
        I wouldn't get discouraged that you didn't get much of a response.
        It takes awhile for things to get traction. Don't give up after one day, that is the biggest mistake that 99% of people make. Stick with it and keep working at it.
        Hi Bostoncitymass,

        Thanks so much for the encouragement. I am definitely not going to give up this time.

        I will stick with it and use the suggestions made here
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
      Originally Posted by Scott Million View Post

      Yup, "getting clients" is definitely the biggest challenge for any business.

      The Warriors for Hire section is a good place to post services, but to be brutally honest after taking a look at what you offer I don't think you'll blow up there, or anywhere.

      If you want to make some serious money in the backlink providing arena I'd either study what successful providers are offering in the WSO section (and outside the forum) or consider targeting a different clientele, for example 'ranking' business owner's websites instead of providing backlink options to marketers.

      The backlinks to marketers market is very saturated and to break into there with huge success you'll have to offer more than multiple backlinks from one article directory. One thing that will make your service instantly more attractive, though, is 3-4 backlinks from 10 article directories vs. 30-40 from one (Article Base, right?)

      Also, if you're sold on providing backlink services to marketers, article backlinks aren't the most attractive... you'd do much better offering forum / profile high PR links, which is more in line with the 'craze' at the moment.

      Hi Scott,

      Thanks for your input. I will definitely look at your suggestion and incorporate them into the service.

      I will have to look at article directories that are quick in their approval rate, or those that use auto approve, because I would not want clients to wait for too long while waiting for the links to be live.

      Thanks for the suggestions . . .
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    Well as a few posters have mentioned above it will take you some time to see traction if any at all were to come through. Everyone and their brother is offering backlinking services so you either need to find something to stick out from the crowd or try a supplemental service until you find a way to take off. Do you have any other skills specific to the online arena?
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
      Originally Posted by Joe128139 View Post

      Well as a few posters have mentioned above it will take you some time to see traction if any at all were to come through. Everyone and their brother is offering backlinking services so you either need to find something to stick out from the crowd or try a supplemental service until you find a way to take off. Do you have any other skills specific to the online arena?
      Hi Joe,

      I do see the backlink services being offered here and I thought mine was a little different, as I write unique articles and then submit them to article directories.

      I also write, but that area also seems to be saturated. I will have to think extra hard about how to stand out from everyone and offer something irresistible

      Thanks for your input
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    • The ad I read ties your service to ArticleBase. Does ArticleBase carry enough SEO weight to warrant this?

      In other words, will linking your service to the ArticeBase brand help persuade people to buy your backlinks?

      And remember, you're not selling backlinks. You're selling search engine results, which means more traffic, which means more sales, which means more money!

      Your ad/web page needs to focus on the results of using your service. One quick and easy way to do that is by offering proof that your service works.

      It's great that you're out there, taking a chance and betting on yourself. Best of luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
        Hi Lowbudgetcopywrititng,

        I am actually selling backlinks to those folks who want article marketing to be part of their backlinking campaigns but who do not have the time to do it themselves.

        From what I know, the traffic has died down from article directories, so for the most part, it is about the links pointing back to the website.

        The reason I chose ArticleBase is because they are quick to approve articles, and at times they auto approve, which i like as I am able to deliver to the clients faster.
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  • Profile picture of the author J Cohen
    Hi,

    You also mention that you write. You could offer an article writing service on places like fiverr and then upsell them your backlink service

    Jay
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  • Profile picture of the author John Galt
    Ever consider putting together a case study? Use your service to build up a profitable campaign, document the process and then share your results. Tell folks about it over here and other places IMers congregate. Shamelessly plug your services and you're good to go.

    The proof is in the pudding. If you can show real results using your linking strategy, you'll have to beat clients away with a stick. Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author ibacklinkpro
    Perhaps change you ad up a bit too... how about saying something like "Get 30 to 4 permanent links from Squidoo and Hubpages" Most marketers know the value of those links so they may be more interested in doing that than just saying Popular Article directory... because after Panda most IM don't want to be associated with Article Directories, now Squidoo and Hubpages, those links carry significant value... (might even add Weebly, Blogger, and Wordpress there if you can make some kind of a systematic approach to that.)
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
    Hi John and ibacklinkpro,

    Thanks so much for your input.

    Great ideas that you have given me, just like the warriors before you.

    I will be sure to re-think the service and implement what you are suggesting
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    I completely agree with putting together a case study of past result or even one result. The benefit you offer is higher search engine rankings.

    Even if you have to create your own site and rank it highly in the search engines with your backlinking method, do so. Then profile what you did and the result.

    If you operate in a non-English speaking country then you have many valuable services given you speak English and the language in your country. You can communicate with local customers and give them access to predominantly English resources such as article directories. Many small businesses will be interested, but again a success case study illustrating success will be a strong selling point.

    With internet marketing skills, you can carve out a business. Be persistent and willing to change it up if necessary - such as obtaining backlinks for clients from a variety of sources.
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    • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
      Yes, a case study seems like a great idea, as I think nothing convinces people better than results. I will have to study some case studies so i know how to do it well and put something together. Might take a bit of time though, but I do have a website that I have put on page one of Google and others that are following suit.

      You guys rock. With all these ideas, I really think I can give something of great value to the warriors and I am going to implement right away
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  • Profile picture of the author rsabian
    Is a service like seolinkvine with article blog posts bad after panda?
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    There are several pieces to a successful advertising campaign, including:
    • Attractive product or service;
    • Decent price (and I don't mean the lowest price);
    • Advertising to the right audience;
    • Your advertising being seen by the best target audience;
    • Sales copy focuses on benefits more than features;
    • Turn around time;
    • Perceived value of offer;
    • Credibility of seller;
    • And more....

    If you have any one of these factors wrong, your offer won't sell.

    Get them all right, then the sky is the limit.
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  • Profile picture of the author FriendlyRob
    Have you tried a WSO? That usually creates some buzz.
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    • Profile picture of the author tpw
      Originally Posted by FriendlyRob View Post

      Have you tried a WSO? That usually creates some buzz.

      I would not do the WSO. Instead, I would list in the Warriors For Hire sub-forum.
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  • Profile picture of the author Osman_M
    When you say you placed an ad in the advertising section are you referring to the WSO section? The only advice I can offer you is that there are tons of people offering the same service you are offering so be sure to make yourself stand out. Running a case study is a great idea and can get your rolling the right way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Lisa Paule
    You have raised some valid points.

    @tpw - feels like i need to go back to the drawing board and seriously re-think

    @friendlyrob - it is ecomeing more clearere to me that I need to come up with something more wow before I even think wso, but is definitely a great idea

    @Osman - what kind of linking building would you think was well worth it to spend your money on?
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  • Profile picture of the author kaper7
    Leads emerge from traffic and it can only be attained with money, time or both. With money to invest, go ahead and buy solo mail but if you only want to invest time, you can do article, and blog marketing.

    When you get at least 100 on your list, you can begin to leverage it by doing swaps and most importantly, offering you list a chance to sell your product for 100% commission.

    Your list will be built on nearly auto pilot as long as you create a great affiliate program.
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  • Profile picture of the author shireen
    Hi:

    Shireen here :-)

    Offer some free tips, distribute some free ebooks & constantly post in this forum related to your niche will help.
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  • Profile picture of the author Koolsteve
    Have you considered Twitter? If you carefully build a niche following and interact with your Followers daily, you will get sales. It's what I do and it works well for me.

    All the very best with your venture.
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  • Profile picture of the author Fryde Markus
    Making something interesting that will catch a searcher's attention is one of the best ways in earning money through the internet.

    It's just like you have already millions of customers since we are dealing in an online world. You just have to be creative to catch them.
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  • Profile picture of the author waltermulder
    Actively searching and posting on freelance websites might help too.

    For example Freelancer.com, Odesk and basically any freelance site, with IM related postings on it, that you can find.

    Beeing pro-active is key. Don't just start websites and products offers but try to match your services to the needs of the market
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  • Profile picture of the author curly sue
    never give up. Try advertising with 10 methods; articles, blogs, facebook, forums, classifieds, video. it will pay up in the end.
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