Post on blog, then Ezines, etc? Good or bad idea?

12 years ago

Yes. Those places will provide backlinks which will help with SEO. Then of course anyone else can put them on their websites which gives you even more links.

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bostoncitymass 12 years ago

Yeah you want to submit them to article sites, but only AFTER your original blog post has been indexed. And try to make them unique as possible with a spinner if you have one, but spinners can make the articless kinda crappy at times so make sure you take the time to read through the spun articles to make sure they are grammatically correct. A bit time consuming and boring but worth it in the long run.
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- wiseworks 12 years ago
  
  Yes, it works for me. I personally rewrite the content from my blog and post in an article directory. I also rewrite content and add to a legit article spinner.
  
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danr62

12 years ago

Hubpages and Squidoo are revenue sharing sites. These types of sites usually require previously unpublished content (as Alexa would say) because they probably get a significant amount of their traffic coming from search engines. Having content in the supplimental index because it's been indexed elsewhere would hurt their business model quite a bit.

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by resellcells

After having an article indexed on the site, would you recommend posting it to Ezines, Hubpages, Squidoo?

Ezine Articles - yes. There's no downside at all, and article directories don't require previously unpublished content. A good place to put your articles if you want others to republish them (that's what an article directory's for, as explained in this short thread from earlier today. But don't try and use it for its own traffic, and certainly not for its own backlinks!)

Squidoo and Hub - totally different situation.

Those are not article directories. They (and other "Web 2.0 sites" like theirs) all have their own terms of service. Some allow it; others don't.

Always read the terms of service carefully before posting on sites you don't own!

(I used to use both of those, but stopped a long time ago - there's really very, very little benefit now, and the changeable terms of service and their idiosyncratic and inconsistent interpretations of them make it no longer worthwhile, for me. Squidoo and Hub, in reality, give you nothing that you can't get, free of charge, elsewhere, where you're in charge and don't have their poxy TOS to worry about. Don't imagine that because Squidoo's own home page and Hub's own home page both happen to have high page ranks that that's going to make your backlinks from "your" pages on their sites worth anything special - those days are long gone.)

Edited to add: oooh, Warrior Daniel-san was quick off the mark, here!

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Ross Cohen

12 years ago

And would you recommend keeping the title the same or no? I would spin it... but just don't have the means to do so currently.

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

I'll give you guys a little secret: it works just as well (in fact slightly better, actually, for a couple of reasons) if you don't spin it at all. It's just like grilling venison sausages: everyone thinks you need to prick them first - but they're actually a bit better if you don't.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...necessary.html

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-articles.html

Originally Posted by resellcells

would you recommend keeping the title the same or no?

Two things matter ...

(i) Have your major keyword at the start of the title (none of this "3 Ways To Do Whatever-it-is" or "The 5 Mistakes of Whatever-it-is" - those are cr@p titles, for SEO);

(ii) Understand why you're using article directories: there's no point in submitting to them for their own backlinks. Seriously - understand this clearly, otherwise you'll waste a lot of time.

This thread explains it clearly, and it's only short.
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Ross Cohen

12 years ago

Thanks Alexa. You're truly a huge asset to this entire community.

As for that question, thanks for the insight for the best title -- but when I have found that "best title", do you think it should be identical on my blog and Ezines, or best to change it? My gut instinct is to keep it the same.

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Ross Cohen

12 years ago

Oh & last question

If I were to link to my site in text somewhere in the article, would it be best to link to my homepage or to the original post on my blog?

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by joshmstanton

Linking two pages together with the same content, in my mind is always going to be a bad idea.

Always. An absolutely dreadful idea. A great way to lose traffic.

But nobody here is suggesting you should do that.

Originally Posted by joshmstanton

Why would you want to do that? You're going to see better results by keeping the content on your site completely unique and writing separate content to submit to article directories.

With apologies, Josh, this is just plain wrong. It's actually factual: you're not going to see better results, that way. Clearly, what you're going to see is some of the same results.

You're simply missing out on an additional opportunity.

Your own site gains no "SEO-points" at all for not having its content syndicated to other sites. This is one of the Great Urban Myths of article marketing (which arose out of the widespread confusion between "syndicated content" and "duplicate content").

It's because many people mistakenly believe that, that they're failing to take advantage of other additional opportunities for their content, which can generate some additional business.

Originally Posted by joshmstanton

It's not that hard to write a quick article on similar subject matter to submit to EZA, should only take 15 minutes max.

But submitting the one you already have takes only 15 seconds.

I can't write an article in 15 minutes, myself, but if you can "write another one", you could publish that on your own site too, and then submit them both to EZA, and cover twice the ground.

However you look at it, when you compare it with the alternatives, there's no gain in submitting previously unpublished content to an article directory: the article directory will love you for it, perhaps, but from your perspective, it makes no sense at all. If you have a good read through this thread, you'll find a whole succession of experienced, successful, professional article marketers explaining in detail all their shared reasons for publishing all their articles on their own sites first, having them indexed there, and then submitting them unchanged to EZA: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...eza-first.html

It's just "something extra, at no cost".

Originally Posted by resellcells

when I have found that "best title", do you think it should be identical on my blog and Ezines, or best to change it? My gut instinct is to keep it the same.

I think it doesn't matter. I used to change them all - I can't quite remember why, now! But for the last year or so I haven't changed them at all - it doesn't seem to have made any difference to anything.

Originally Posted by resellcells

If I were to link to my site in text somewhere in the article ...

It has to be in the resource-box (for EZA's rules), not in the text of the article.

Originally Posted by resellcells

would it be best to link to my homepage or to the original post on my blog?

Never to another copy of the same article. I always link to my landing page. If I have two links to play with (as you do at EZA) I'll have the first to my landing page and sometimes the second to some inner page for which I want to do some off-page SEO and on which I don't mind some traffic landing. But never another copy of the article they've just read.

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Christophe Young

12 years ago

It's just like grilling venison sausages: everyone thinks you need to prick them first - but they're actually a bit better if you don't.

How about chopping up grilled venison sausages and adding them to cauliflower soup? Know of any recipes?

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joshmstanton

12 years ago

Why would you want to do that? You're going to see better results by keeping the content on your site completely unique and writing separate content to submit to article directories.

It's not that hard to write a quick article on similar subject matter to submit to EZA, should only take 15 minutes max.

Linking two pages together with the same content, in my mind is always going to be a bad idea.

Just my two cents.

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Ross Cohen

12 years ago

Thanks Josh.

Would love your insight on the last two questions Alexa

1) Whether I should use the same title from my blog in the Ezines post and..

2) If I should link back to the site's home page or back to the original post, and whether it should be in-text or just in the sig box.

You're the best!

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TEK

12 years ago

As far as I am informed, it is good to have your article published in article directories even if you have the same article on your site. I am extremely fast writer, so I can manually spin one article for half an hour and have at least six versions of the same article (different points of view, different lengths, even different keywords), so I can't say if this has any bad points for SEO.

One guy told me the first indexed article will stay indexed and search engines will count only links (not content) from others.

Different situation is the power of links. If nobody reads your articles, nobody links them, nobody comments them, links are pretty worthless. So it is a good idea to make some kind of promotion of these articles. Don't know about promotion on EZA, but on Hub Pages and Squidoo it is very very easy. But you can't just copypast your basic article (from your landing site), you must give something unique. They help you with interactive modules, but you need some time to master them. I needed approx half a year to achieve PR4 on most of my lenses, but now it takes me only couple of minutes a day to maintain rankings for lenses and articles they link to.

My advice would be to take only one step at the time. When you achieve something with article submissions go to Web 2.0 and learn new stuff. and so on. And enjoy!

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Fryde Markus

12 years ago

I also wouldn't recommend Squidoo and Hubpages. Alexa is right they're not an article directories.

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Lonely

Banned 12 years ago

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Alexa Smith

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by Lonely

ezine is loosing its ranks

Yes, it is. (Well, "losing", anyway).

But that's a good thing for article marketers using EZA, not a bad thing.

Article directory copies of articles are not designed to get potential customer traffic (we'd waste most of it, that way!): they're there to get potential publisher traffic.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

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sstoney200

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Alexa Smith

Yes, it is. (Well, "losing", anyway).

But that's a good thing for article marketers using EZA, not a bad thing.

Article directory copies of articles are not designed to get potential customer traffic (we'd waste most of it, that way!): they're there to get potential publisher traffic.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

Wow Alexa, you really know your stuff! Thanks for the awesome advice you have added on the forums!

So I have my indexed content on my site, I've syndicated that through an article to Ezine, but whilst I am awaiting there review should I post to the other top directories? I was under the impression that articles should be almost unique to be accepted to ezine? If the other sites accepted and indexed my artice before Ezine finished the review, would that stop Ezine from publishing it?

This is the first article I'm trying to get indexed to ezine so would appreciate your views!

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Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by sstoney200

whilst I am awaiting there review should I post to the other top directories?

There's absolutely no downside, if you want to.

Personally, I submit each article (unchanged/unedited) to EZA and to either GoArticles or ArticleBase as well (depending on the niche).

To be honest, I gain nothing tangible from the other one/two, really, but I continue to do this for two reasons ...

(i) If Ezine Articles goes out of business tomorrow (it's not going to happen!) it'll be convenient for me to have done so "as I go along", and I'm an "eggs and baskets chick" and don't like total dependence for additional passive syndication all to be in the hands of one site which I don't own myself (call me "cautious"), and ...

(ii) I read here that a few Warriors do get some passive syndication of articles from each of those other two directories, and although it doesn't happen for me (maybe just because all mine are in EZA too, and publishers look there first?), one lives in hope.

Originally Posted by sstoney200

I was under the impression that articles should be almost unique to be accepted to ezine?

Absolutely not. They can be syndicated, identical copies of articles previously published in as many, or as few, other places as you like (as long as the name/pen-name in which you submit to EZA matches those previously published, of course - otherwise they may imagine you've submitted "stolen content"!).

Many people imagine that EZA requires "previously unpublished content". There's absolutely no truth at all in this, and never has been. Explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post4309204

These myths are perpetuated because ...

(a) People get confused between "duplicate content" and "syndicated content" - explained in this little article: Article Marketers - Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All | Internet Marketing and Publishing ;

(b) Some people (who make a living not from affiliate marketing or whatever themselves, but as service providers, promoting "spinning" and "automated submission" software/services/"bots") repeat them at every possible opportunity (and one can appreciate that it suits them for everyone to continue to misunderstand the difference between duplicate content and syndicated content), in an attempt to create what looks like an incentive for newbies to use their otherwise-largely-unnecessary software/services;

(c) Some people have believed this (though entirely mistakenly) for so many years that they've formed some sort of emotional attachment to "being right" about it, and will argue it ad infinitum rather than looking at the facts and evidence, and risking the possibility of people realizing that they don't actually know what they're talking about (blunt, but true - the teachings of the "Urban Myth School" of internet marketing can be surprisingly potent and pervasive! ).

Originally Posted by sstoney200

If the other sites accepted and indexed my artice before Ezine finished the review, would that stop Ezine from publishing it?

Absolutely not.

As long as the author-name matches.

Personally, for idiosyncratic convenience reasons of my own, I happen to submit all my articles to EZA last, and by the time I do so, they've typically already been syndicated pretty extensively elsewhere (but always in the same pen-name as the one in which I submit them to EZA). This has never caused me any problem at all (and I have over 1,600 of them there, so I'd know by now, if this were something to be avoided).

Originally Posted by sstoney200

This is the first article I'm trying to get indexed to ezine so would appreciate your views!

"Good luck with it/them" is my view.

But - afterthought comment - it's unwise to rely only on passive syndication of this kind. It's a good "extra", and it's actually how I started off building my business (because I knew no better, at the time). It can be very successful indeed - you can get an article syndicated from EZA to ezines with thousands of highly targeted subscribers, this way, and get a sudden flood of traffic, opt-ins and sales ... but it can also be slow, unreliable and involve some luck!
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savvybizbuilder

12 years ago

I learn a lot from this thread, thanks for the substantial information provided by Alexa and other WF members.

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sstoney200

12 years ago

Thanks very much for that in-depth response! :-) That's a great help!

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