Danny Wall, Jordyn is back new name

[Mike McBride]

Originally Posted by Steve Garrett

I've posted incontrovertible proof that Danny is not Mel is not me. Continue believing what you want.

Incontrovertible? More like unbelievable, actually.

Bev has earned a TON of credibility here over the years - a mountain of credibility, as it were, as opposed to the molehill of credibility you've accumulated with your replies here. And that molehill is eroding with each post.

Alan made an excellent suggestion to you in this thread. Why not follow it?

[Shane Natan]

Dude, why don't you just make a video real quick and state your name, show your ID, and any other proof?

The fact that you are not taking that route makes it obvious...

EDIT: I just read that you don't own a webcam. (Yet you have a movie on your site..)

Well, I guess your up $%#& Creek!

[Dennis Murphy]

Steve,

You wrote: "I have an ebook on my site at profitsitemanager dot com/emailmarketing.pdf

Uhh Dude, when I opened that PDF and I right click to check properties, it states that the documents author is "Danny Wall."

Care to explain why the document that YOU just created on 08/12/08 lists Danny Wall as the author?

Dennis

PS - I just downloaded ALL of your linked documents and they ALL list Danny Wall as the Author.

[internetmarketer99]

Steve, I feel for ya. I just HATE when I forget to change my name on my documents to an alias...

Mark

[Dennis Murphy]

"Steve",

I also made a Camtasia video of me clicking the links that you listed in the post above, then viewing the document properties directly from the documents sitting live on your site just in case you decide to change the author name or accuse us of changing the author name.

I don't appreciate it when a Senior Member of the WF get called a liar for exposing this kind of crap.

Nice try "Steve". Buh Bye.

[Kay King]

For those looking at the list of Wall's sites above, understand that he has a tendency to play off successful domain names of other marketers.

His sites such as
www.***1kin10days com
www.***make5kthisweek com
www.***earn10bucksaday com

should not be confused with the authentic 5bucksaday and Earn1kaday sites run by a respected member here.

kay

[JayXtreme]

lol.... this is the best thread I have had the pleasure to read in weeks..

I've been stuck with my head in XSitePro for days and this is cool...

Thankyou everyone for the chuckle.. even Danny

;-)

Peace

Jay

[Ken Leatherman]

First I want to say thank you to Bev. She was kind enough to alert me this morning by Skype about Steve Garrett. She knew I had posted in the WSO topic and had some interest.

Now Steve for you. Frankly, You Tick Me Off. You have insulted a very good friend of mine. I have known and worked with Bev for more than two years now. I would trust her word above most people I know. She may be blunt but she speaks true.

However, after reading your responses here you have shot yourself right in the butt. I have a very strong ability to recall things I read and your responses to this thread read very similar to the ones you wrote in defense of Jordyn, Danny Wall and the others. Almost word for word.

Please take your new persona and ride off into the Colorado sunset.

Ken Letherman
The Old Geezer

[valerieSONORA]

Ouch. I guess if you're going by a certain name, you want to list that name in the properties as the author. Not a name of somebody you claim you don't know. I'd like to hear a reasonable explanation for why "Danny Wall" is listed as the author in the properties of ebooks by someone under a different name who claims to not even know who danny wall is. I guess next time they come back, they'll be careful about that. But I think Bev will still find a way to expose them.

As for no one being disgruntled by "Jordyn" I'd have to disagree. Avery Berman was. It nearly ruined his reputation but he bounced back cuz everyone knows he's honest

[Justin Mandel]

I just did the exact same thing to help put an end to this saga and also checked properties...so surprise, surpise what did I see?

"Danny Wall" is the author under the PDF tab.

I didn't even bother to look at any other documents. The proof is in the pudding, er...the PDF.

And *THANK YOU* to Bev - good looking out for everyone here, it is much appreciated

Originally Posted by Dennis Murphy

Steve,

You wrote: "I have an ebook on my site at profitsitemanager dot com/emailmarketing.pdf

Uhh Dude, when I opened that PDF and I right click to check properties, it states that the documents author is "Danny Wall."

Care to explain why the document that YOU just created on 08/12/08 lists Danny Wall as the author?

Dennis

PS - I just downloaded ALL of your linked documents and they ALL list Danny Wall as the Author.

[Noah Fleming]

Oh man.
I saw the title and I can't even force myself to read this thread.
OK maybe I will later this evening.

Way to go Bev!

[Kay King]

I'd prefer for the real Danny Wall to just go away.....

One thing never changes with wall/jordyn/et al - they will argue endlessly that it's not them, they aren't connected, etc and will never admit they've been caught yet again.

Claiming non-association while having Wall showing as the author of YOUR ebook in the properties - is about as dumb as it gets.

kay

[ExRat]

Hi,

I've listened to enough of this, especially you having a go at my friend Bev.

Throughout this thread you are claiming that because three voices don't sound the same that proves you are legit...come again?

I wrote them literally as I sat there off the top of my head. That's the truth Bev ... I suppose you can prove otherwise or are you just going to post more unsubstantiated lies.

Are you trying to tell me you wrote -

'Autoresponder Magic'

and

'Million Dollar Emails'?

Because that's what you're claiming in your emails to your subscribers.

Along with -

I'm going to show you how to use forums to become
market authorities in record time, and use that "expert"
status to drive people in DROVES into your mailing list.

Just do one.

[John Rowe]

Originally Posted by Bev Clement

John how did you miss all the saga of Jordyn on the old board?

I'll tell ya Bev, I'm starting to feel like I must have been abducted by aliens back when this was going on. This is the absoulute first time I've laid eyes or ears on any of this. I missed it completely! Kind of glad I did... but still...

I'm scared.


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[Angela V. Edwards]

Originally Posted by Jose Delgado

What?!

How Can ANYONE Possibly hate Bev?

That's Impossible.

That's what I was going to say. How can anybody hate Bev?

[Dana_W]

I swear to God it's like some kind of mental illness - creating new identities and coming back to this forum again and again with attempts to scam people. And doing things so badly - like having a document with Danny Wall's name on it that they make available to EVERYBODY! - that it almost seems like they WANT to get caught.

And as other people here have pointed out - this person COULD make a great living as an internet marketer legitimately. What a waste of time and effort. It's truly a shame.

[Ricky Parker]

Here is the OG one I had in my profile on the old board.

Much better.

Steve, are you trying to one up me with your fancy video version?

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Ricky Parker

Here is the OG one I had in my profile on the old board.

Much better.

Steve, are you trying to one up me with your fancy video version?

Actually, I just love the old "As The World Turns" theme and was looking
for a good excuse to post it here.

Interesting how this thread is unfolding and Danny's house of cards is
coming down like a slum demolition project.

[Noah Fleming]

I just read this all. Is Danny gone again? It seems there are posts missing now?

He'll be back again. This is what the 10th time now? How do we stop him for good? Wasn't there some issue with Danny and the Colorado Police investigating him on the old forum?

[Kyle Tully]

You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

That's what I don't understand.

[Noah Fleming]

Originally Posted by Kyle Tully

You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

That's what I don't understand.

Keep in mind though, the scams have been going on since like 2002 or something.. I can't remember anymore. Just remember this guy is freaky and doesn't bring good energy to the board or anywhere he goes for that matter.

Who knows what Danny is really writing. A ton of his stuff was copied from Joyner if I remember correctly.

[Steven Wagenheim]

Originally Posted by Kyle Tully

You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

That's what I don't understand.

You know what Kyle, I don't know the guy at all, but with the reputation
he has, I'll bet he has a hell of a lot more marketing smarts than I do. So
yeah, you're right, it's a shame that he doesn't use that mind for some
good.

[MizzCindy]

Well, he certainly gives a whole new meaning to the phrase 'take action'!

Cindy

[Michael Mayo]

Roger,

Thanks for that info. I totally missed that!
I'm calling Vinnie in Chicago. He'll take care of this!

Hey where's Vegas Vince?
Vince, Tell Tony to give Vinnie a call. + =

Michael

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi,

I've listened to enough of this, especially you having a go at my friend Bev.

Throughout this thread you are claiming that because three voices don't sound the same that proves you are legit...come again?



Are you trying to tell me you wrote -

'Autoresponder Magic'

and

'Million Dollar Emails'?

Because that's what you're claiming in your emails to your subscribers.

Along with -



Just do one.

[VegasVince]

I first came across Loudle on a porn site.

Loudle offered to yank my noodle.....if I bought her ebook?

The fact she might be a he..... really got me messed up right now...in the head.

Good job....Bev.

I feel like every time you post...there's a pin hole camera over my head.


xxx Vegas Vince

[Michael Mayo]

Vince,

That was just weird!
How did we do that????

Want to JV...lol


Bev, Thanks for the Heads Up!
Michael

[Alan Petersen]

Originally Posted by Dana_W

I swear to God it's like some kind of mental illness - creating new identities and coming back to this forum again and again with attempts to scam people. And doing things so badly - like having a document with Danny Wall's name on it that they make available to EVERYBODY! - that it almost seems like they WANT to get caught.

And as other people here have pointed out - this person COULD make a great living as an internet marketer legitimately. What a waste of time and effort. It's truly a shame.

I was thinking the same exact thing. Not that it excuses his actions but he must be like a pathological liar. Even when caught he can't stop.

And the excuses are the sames one he used as Jordyn. I don't have a web cam. Etc., etc.

[zapseo]

Originally Posted by Jose Delgado

Such a shame. The guy can make so much money from his copywriting. He is damn good.

Yeah...I'm going....I wanna get my hands on some of that copy.

If anyone wants to send it to me, I'll do an analysis
(Well, maybe not on ALL of it....)

Sorry.

Occupational Hazard.

[Sean A McAlister]

Can't Touch Him....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCRCECKBodQ

[Richard Tunnah]

Originally Posted by Noah Fleming

I just read this all. Is Danny gone again? It seems there are posts missing now?

He'll be back again. This is what the 10th time now? How do we stop him for good? Wasn't there some issue with Danny and the Colorado Police investigating him on the old forum?

Yes looks like Danny/Richard/Steve is gone but no doubt he/she will be back again trying the same thing!

Rich

[zapseo]

Oh nevermind.

I just realized he's prolly swiping (er, stealing, not swiping) other folks' stuff.

Sigh.

[Kay King]

Got to admit the guys got a good script when he's caught.

Steve says "listen to my voice - you can tell it's me"

Jordyn said "how can you say I'm Wall - I'm a GIRL" and posted a photo of "a girl" in her profile

Bye Steve/Danny - till next time, you crud.

[Greg Cooksley]

Yip, I think this guy is a pathological liar....they can't help
themselves....

We had one in our family. The nicest person you could ever meet.
When new people met this person, they would fall over themselves
saying how great the person is etc

But, every time a coconut, this person would be involved in one
scam after another. Even ripped family members off. Man, could
this person weazel his way out of any situation and make you
feel that it was YOUR fault....

And yet, I must admit, the person was highly talented, had the
gift of the gab and what charm - amazed everyone.

SAD....

So, where is this reputable Steve now? I mean if his credentials
are squeaky clean????

Just had a look at his forum profile:
His Skype name is Confabber

Regards

Greg

[ExRat]

Hi Greg,

The nicest person you could ever meet.
When new people met this person, they would fall over themselves
saying how great the person is

the person was highly talented, had the
gift of the gab and what charm - amazed everyone

...Classic profile of a psychopath.

I think it's worth trying to gain a constructive lesson from this - because the scammer will have definitely learned lessons and when they come back they won't make the same mistakes.

For any of the newer members here - these things have happened before. Anyone who's been here a while gets to know lots of people and often can see when a scam is about to happen - BUT if you think about it, it's extremely difficult for anyone to 'get the word out.' Just think about it.

What Bev did here is quite brave and is fraught with potential problems.

What I would like people to remember is this -

If you see someone come in here making outrageous claims and then you see longer standing members giving them a hard time - think, before you jump in and accuse them of bullying or negativity.

Often, there is no benefit to the person. They are not about to fall for it and are simply trying to help others.

In this scammer's WSO someone jumped in and told him to 'ignore the naysayers and sceptics' etc. I hope that person is reading this thread. That scammer was trying to get access to peoples' lists. Can you imagine the consequences if he had?

So if you find people being sceptical, cautious, asking probing questions etc. Don't just write them off as a negative person. Don't slam them as a 'newbie bully'. Look at their words and see if they are trying to 'send a message'.

HTH

[Dana_W]

Gosh, Kay, next thing you'll be telling me that pictures of clickbank earnings can be faked! I mean, if Jordyn posts a picture of a girl, what more "incontrovertible" proof can we ask for?

I notice that every single website attributed to Danny Wall, Loudle, and Patty Vortan is protected by domains by proxy so we can't see who they are registered to. (Full disclosure: I do that too, so I'm not saying it's ALWAYS a sign of ill intent. Okay, okay, I'm really a scammer and I'm also Steve Wagenheim, Allen Says, and Tiffany Dow. Fooled YOU, didn't I?)

By the way, Danny Wall apparently has the power to control minds, and Patty Vortan used his mind control tricks to increase "her" conversion rate 223 percent.
Buy Impulse: 26 Mind Control Tools!

And yet, apparently Danny Wall could NOT control Bev Clement's mind. She must have a special helmet or something.

Originally Posted by Kay King

Got to admit the guys got a good script when he's caught.

Steve says "listen to my voice - you can tell it's me"

Jordyn said "how can you say I'm Wall - I'm a GIRL" and posted a photo of "a girl" in her profile

Bye Steve/Danny - till next time, you crud.

[msmonline]

Interesting,...lately, I have been receiving several emails from this Jordyn person on a regular basis. Not sure who they are though. As for (Richard Earl), I agree with Jose, the guy can definitely make alot of money from his copywriting. He is damn good at it.

[Judy Wulff]

The latest email that I for him is: richard@primorismarketing.com
Then last phone number for him was: 719-433-1981 it worked on Fri. but now is disconnected.
I know because I am a victim of him.
If anyone knows of a legit mentor who is genuine and wants to help...let me know.

[Prevalent]

If he's in Colorado....you guys want me to pay him a visit?

Would be no problem whatsoever. I can "verify his ID."

Daniel

[internetmarketer99]

Originally Posted by Daniel McCoy

If he's in Colorado....you guys want me to pay him a visit?

Would be no problem whatsoever. I can "verify his ID."

Daniel

For as long as this guy seems to have been at it, he's got to be expecting a knock at the door one day - if it hasn't happened already.

I would imagine it would result in either no one answering, or some 'doesn't live here anymore' story.

And really, these days - if you screw enough people, it would hardly be surprising to have someone show up at your door for more than just a "verbal confrontation".

Mark

[Jason Brown]

Missed all the excitement, but a big thank you to Bev for looking out for the WF.

Rememeber, Bev is watching.........

[valerieSONORA]

Deja vu. Just like last time. He denies it like crazy at first, then when the proof becomes overwhelming, he vanishes in to thin air. He'll be back...but he'll do something to get caught again.

[Mark-Dickenson]

This guy is more busted than those people who get caught on that show Cheaters(in the states)

I totally remember this from the old forum. I felt pretty bad for Avery when he was doing his JV...probably soured him from doing WSO's for a while

[Mark-Dickenson]

Originally Posted by Kyle Tully

You know what the stupid thing about all this is?

The dude behind all of this is obviously pretty good at persuasion, copywriting, marketing...

He could make 100 times more money if he actually delivered on his promises! Damn, it's easier than trying to scam a few people, develop a new persona, re-build all that "trust" you had before etc.

That's what I don't understand.

Totally! I actually worked with some people in the Mortgage Business that were just like this. I mean, they would jump through hoops just to do things crooked and it was so much extra work!!

It was like if there was a legit(and easier) way to do things and a crooked way, they would always take the crooked way...never understood it

[Chris Hunter]

Originally Posted by John Rowe

Hey Bev, if it's about a WSO then you can post about this in more detail... objectively... on the new subforum for discussing WSO's. I know I'd like more detail. I've never heard about Danny Wall, Jordyn.


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John,

What subforum are you talking about?