First Semi-Offline Success (Hint I Took Action)

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Okay, so here's another me-too semi-successful story. I think the point is I finally got off my butt and did something.

The other night I went out to dinner with my parents. I began talking about where I want to head business wise. They were asking about work (the day job and so forth).

I've read many of the threads about offline marketing and have bought a few of the WSO offline reports (They are awesome by the way and teach nothing but practical and ingenious business sense).

My dad has a close friend who just opened up his own baseball facility here in the Northwest.

He does have a website, as is the case, and I the friend I could help him. I didn't ask for any monetary gain on this one up front. He just opened three-four weeks and cash flow is tight. I thought this could be my training ground.

I'm looking at working with him more as a huge learning experience as I also work on my own side project when I'm not at the day job.

We sat down over lunch for 2 hours and he was taking notes like a mad man. Today I went to his actual baseball facility and realized a couple of things. Learning lessons.

1. I hadn't been in control of the situation during parts of the conversation yesterday.

2. I offered to write a short 'report'/salesletter to promote a $997 camp we had brainstormed with. I wrote 5 pages of copy last night and was going to present it to him today. When I arrived he had several players doing training. The timing was bad as I wanted to review it with him today. (I had two other people last night review the copy and they thought it was good).

What I should have done was instead of saying I'll come over the next day during his busy time, was ask what works for you during the weekday when he has more down time (the facility targets youth baseball 12-18 years old.) He was all ears and I'm not worried about him going to the 'competition' or doing the ideas himself.

3. I gave him a lot of good information and but I just don't think I was aggressive enough. You know go for a real close. I think part of it too was I didn't steer our conversation enough towards getting some clear plans of action laid out.

4. My dad has been in sales all his life. After our friend left, I asked him what I could work on. My dad goes what do you want to do for him? What do you want? I realized I had gone in so many different directions with all the different possibilities that I should have said let's start with this and this and then go from here.

He has a contact page on his website with a basic html form. I asked him would he like the capability to follow up with email addresses he captures instead of having to respond to each one manually. And then have the capability of following up with them. He goes I'd love that. How do you do that?

So it is out there. People want this stuff and are curious but in the end they will be too busy most of the time with the daily operations of their existing businesses to worry about the technicalities of that 'web site internet thing.'

I think the most important thing is I just got off my butt and did something instead of being a lurker and dreaming constantly.
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  • Profile picture of the author doylesoft
    Taking action is the most important part. I was messing around with my site circa 2003 - 2004. I wanted to get the site and the product perfect, and then I thought: Why fight it? It will always be a work in progress anyway. So I went live and never looked back!
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    • Profile picture of the author jan roos
      Congrats on taking action. I can promise you that this stuff is in high demand and business owners love the ideas us internet marketers come up with.

      Just keep at it and you'll get hired. I have had so many people love my ideas but just couldn't seal a deal untill 2 days ago I sold my first gig for $1800. Just keep at it and it'll happen for sure.

      Cheers
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        4. My dad has been in sales all his life. After our friend left, I asked him what I could work on. My dad goes what do you want to do for him? What do you want? I realized I had gone in so many different directions with all the different possibilities that I should have said let's start with this and this and then go from here.
        Your dad is a wise man. And you seem to be taking after him.

        In this situation, you are the expert. Your "real close" would go something like, "If it were me, here's what I would do next...[outline just the first, easy step]...would you like me to get started on that for you?" Done...
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        • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Eddy
          First, nice job on getting your first interested biz owner.

          So you are going to do this for free for him? Did I read that right?

          That's ok, if it's your first time to get some good experience in,
          but I would recommend you make sure he knows what your time
          is worth. Otherwise he will take you for granted.

          I would work out a deal where he starts sending you referrals and
          then once you have provided him with some value, be sure to use
          his story as a testimonial.

          Hope that helps, just make sure he knows what your worth if your
          doing it for free for him.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattSanti
    Between my dad and I we have explained I am looking to get exposure. This has been a family friend for several years. We are going to talk this week. After yesterday's conversation I told him the reason why I want to help him with baseball. His organization and baseball career has a coach has really grown over the last several years and it has been exciting to watch. I am prepared to tell him $200 a month for basic on going SEO stuff and maybe a little article marketing. I haven't unleashed all the ideas yet.

    He has access to a lot of people in the area and my dad actually beat me to the punch but said he'll be looking for referrals to.
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    • Profile picture of the author AndrewCavanagh
      A few things:

      # 1: You did it. That's the most important thing by far...that you went and talked to a business owner.

      If you talk to enough business owners you will get hired.


      # 2: You talked for 2 hours. Excellent. And he was taking notes...also an excellent sign that he values your skill and knowledge.

      I wouldn't worry too much about selling a specific service in the first meeting.

      Your objective is to get to know the business owner, his business and what he wants from his business.

      Then you can suggest solutions that will help him get what he wants and...


      # 3: Run with the solution that he gets excited about.

      If there are a few he's excited about when you're starting out run with the one that will be easy for you to do and has high perceived value to him.

      If you do that there's no real need to close.

      Your new client will be thrilled about moving on an idea THEY'RE excited about.


      # 4: Before you did any work you should have got some money.

      That's important to maintain the value of your service and to help your client make the mental decision to commit to both working with you and making the work you do together get results.


      # 5: Turning up the next day with a 5 page sales letter devalues the effort you put in to write it.

      Can I write a kick arse sales letter in 24-48 hours?

      God yes...in fact most of my best sales letters were written in under 4 days.

      But unless I'm working with a client who's repeatedly hired copywriters and appreciates the value of good copywriting AND speed I'm not going to show them the sales letter that fast.

      I might give it a week or two.

      That adds value...I've been sweating over this sales letter for days etc etc.

      You have to be very aware of how your clients perceive the value and effort required in the work you do for them.

      Increasing that perceived value and the perception of the level of effort, expertise and resources you use to do work for them increases the price you can charge.

      That's why it's so important.



      From what you've shared here I think you did an absolutely FANTASTIC job for your first meeting with a business owner.

      You just need to talk to a few more!

      Kindest regards,
      Andrew Cavanagh
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