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Old 02-12-2009, 09:08 PM   #51
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I made a TON of money with IM before I started learning anything.
Rachel has this right.

It doesn't take a heap of learning to make a heap of earning. You just need a winning system and the determination to apply it.

However, if you're a lifelong learner, you already know that knowledge is its own reward.



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Old 02-12-2009, 09:39 PM   #52
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As with many others here have said, it takes effort after you learn.
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I made a TON of money with IM before I started learning anything.

As soon as I got all the "better ideas", I started losing money...

And now I only purchase things that are directly relevant to what my long term goals are... that seems to work the best and make the most.
How does that work? Learning lost you money?
Why didn't you keep doing what you were doing in the first place?

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good stuff snipped...

But the reality is THE MORE YOU TAKE ACTION ON THE KNOWLEDGE YOU HAVE THE MORE YOU EARN.

Learning or the knowledge in itself can't and won't make you money.

You must put your knowledge into action if you want results.

...more good stuff snipped

And I did actually say that, and I thought it was implicit in the OP since he didn't specify action. Of course action has to be taken, but all other things being equal, someone with a better education is more likely to make a better income.

There are heaps of studies that correlate level of education with income, not just individually, but socially. Social units (nations, towns, and families) with a high average education also tend to have higher average incomes and/or standards of living.

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I think it's the other way around...

"The more you earn, the more you learn."

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I want to know if you guys think this is true or not
This is so very true. You learn from your mistakes and when you learn from it you don't make the same mistake so you earn more money. Because in learning you understood your work then it is easy for you to earn money more.
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I think it's the other way around...

"The more you earn, the more you learn."
Hey this is an awesome idea. It is so true. The more you take action and earn money the more you learn

But I don't think winning the lotto will teach you a lot. This quote is flawed, but the idea behind it is awesome.

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I want to know if you guys think this is true or not

Id extend that to "The more you learn and apply, the more you earn"

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1884 - the person with the most land had all the riches

2009 - the person with the most information is slowing gaining the riches...
I'm not sure I understand what this means exactly... Could you clarify a bit please? Thanks
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Through observation I have often seen the opposite to be true. I know of some very knowledgeable people that are addicted to learning and they never take action. On the flip side, I do believe that you should apply yourself to learning prior to setting out but there seems to be a healthy balance.

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Completely true! The more experience you have, more oportunities for our business to succeed.
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Default Re: Agree or Disagree: The More You Learn The More You Earn

Learning is the easy part. In this country we have a lot of smart educated people, but all of them don't earn large sums of money. So, the correct statement is the more you learn to relax while you work, the more you will earn.

It has been my experience to stay calm in this business is the best way to move forward. Everything else will cause stress.

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I totally agree with this quote
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It's always good to learn but if you just learn something and do absolutely nothing with it, what good is it? As many have said above...take action on what you learn and you'll do fine!

Another thing is don't try to take action on everything at once, stay focused on one thing at a time then go to the next when you are successful at the one thing you have focused on.

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It's always good to learn but if you just learn something and do absolutely nothing with it, what good is it? As many have said above...take action on what you learn and you'll do fine!

Another thing is don't try to take action on everything at once, stay focused on one thing at a time then go to the next when you are successful at the one thing you have focused on.
Staying focused on one thing at a time is a great way to do it. Learn one way and then outwork it so you really know how to put it into action, then move onto the next. I wrote a thread about this early this year

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I think the more you learn the more you can learn if you take action and focus on the current project

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Because the best way to learn is from personal experience and because we're talking about learning how to build a business the quotation "The More You Learn The More You Earn" is correct.

I wouldn't trade all the things I've learned both intellectually and from experience (because one influences the other) for all the tea in China. For me taking action is equally important as gathering sufficient knowledge and educating myself. There's no point taking massive steps if your ladder is learning against the wrong wall.

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Howdy Ryanmacca,

I agree if the following is added... If what you learn is something others are willing to pay for, you take action and apply your knowledge, and you have an effective means of delivery.

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Howdy Ryanmacca,

I agree if the following is added... If what you learn is something others are willing to pay for, you take action and apply your knowledge, and you have an effective means of delivery.
You should learn things that others are willing to pay for. Then charge them to teach them about it.

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Not convinced. Heard of "paralysis of analysis"? I soeasily fall into the trap of "the grass (and the dollars) are greener on the other side of the fence aka new coursem ebook, product, whatever."

Maybe it's a case of the more you acknowledge what you've learned, the more you earn?

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Not convinced. Heard of "paralysis of analysis"? I soeasily fall into the trap of "the grass (and the dollars) are greener on the other side of the fence aka new coursem ebook, product, whatever."

Maybe it's a case of the more you acknowledge what you've learned, the more you earn?
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This thread has come a long way since I first wrote it. Thanks to everyone for their input and insight

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The quote should read:

"The more you take action on what you learn, the more you earn"

You can learn all day long and not do anything with the knowledge.
Taking the wrong action usually doesnt lead to making money.

'learning' has to be tempered with action. You can read a book about flying a plane, but if all you ever do is read book after book, you still dont know how to fly a plane, just read a book.


Its like swimming, i can tell you how to swim, you can see movies how to swim, you can spend months studdying swimming techniques. But until you get your butt wet, you wont know how to swim.
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Taking the wrong action usually doesnt lead to making money.

'learning' has to be tempered with action. You can read a book about flying a plane, but if all you ever do is read book after book, you still dont know how to fly a plane, just read a book.


Its like swimming, i can tell you how to swim, you can see movies how to swim, you can spend months studdying swimming techniques. But until you get your butt wet, you wont know how to swim.
I like how you said you have to get your butt wet to learn. That is so true.
You need to learn the techniques first then give them a try so you can master then yourself.

Learning takes time and trial and error and should not be rushed

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The quote should read:
"The more you take action on what you learn, the more you earn"
You can learn all day long and not do anything with the knowledge.
Kenneth you are right... To be honest this is the kind of problem am having in IM... I don't know how to start or where to start... I think i really need a coach to put me through all this....
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Yes this is true. If you put what you learn into action.

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If you're talking about how to defuse a bomb, then I agree with you...
But we're talking about making money, so I disagree:

In know people who stumbled into creating successful Internet business without knowing much, a lot of it was luck. (Ignorant Action)

But "Lazy Knowledge" is guaranteed to get you nowhere, because without taking action it's not possible, so for making money, I believe Ignorant Action wins if those are the only two options.

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I agree if you put what you learn into action. Then anaylze your results.

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Learn, do, learn from mistakes, do again, learn what works, do more of it!

So yes it does help, but taking action is the ultimate learning tool.

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I agree with the application quote. If you know how to make 7-figures but dont do anything, whats the point? You have to learn and apply what you learn asap. It's like Eben said in altitude, the common trait of the most successful salespeople is speed of implementation on whatever they learn.
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Well you have to learn before you can earn, but you can learn all day and as a result get nothing done so earn little to nothing.

Yet you could learn the basics things that work, then work at them all day long, and earn a lot.

Although the statement could be said to be true, not as true as "The more you work, the more you earn".

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In the case of say, an anesthesiologist, I'd agree. But it's more contingent on action than knowledge.

Getting "lucky" means you were in a lot of places to be in the "right place at the right time". That takes work.
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“He who loves practice without theory is like the sailor who boards ship without a rudder and compass and never knows where he may cast.”
"Leonardo Da Vinci"

Much on my day is invested in 'learning', though my focus on learning is in the 'understanding' part and that involves practice.

What I do personally is first I read all I can about a subject, creating associations inside my head, making sense of it all, the big picture.

I continuously examine what are the key factors for success in the chosen area and according to my Definite Chief Aim I focus on the ones that make a natural fit with me, the one's that 'feel' fine.

Then it all falls into place, without wondering 'Am I missing something' and I get to a point where I can make congruent, massive action. Then the process gets repeated again, based on feedback.

I will make a translation of a quote of a spanish philosopher and writer that is my northern star in my personal philosophy of action:

"There are three types of men: The ones who first think and then act, these are the prudent; the ones who act before thinking, these are the impulsive; the ones who act and think at the same time they are doing what they're thinking, These are the strong."
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I think ignorant action wins.

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well it all depends, the lazy genius might achieve more than the hardworking retard, its all about the balance, because lazy is still some action right? as long as the action /= 0 it produces an effect
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well it all depends, the lazy genius might achieve more than the hardworking retard, its all about the balance, because lazy is still some action right? as long as the action /= 0 it produces an effect
Hmmmm,
I think you need to have a balance. Neither the lazy genius or the hardworking retard would be effective.
Maybe if the lazy genius hired the hardworking retard and told him what to do we would be successful

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I agree that the more you learn the more you could earn if you put some action to what you have learned. Many people seem to learn and then learn some more and never do anything with it. As I am learning this business I have to make myself do something with what I have learned and not wait until I learn even more.
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I would rephrase it:

The more relevant, helpful things you learn and take action on, the more you earn.

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Old 03-31-2009, 07:25 PM   #88
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I would rephrase it:

The more relevant, helpful things you learn and take action on, the more you earn.

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I like your requote. It sounds really good. Makes a lot of sense

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my 2c :

learn while you earn ... by taking action you'll learn what works and what doesn't ... you can't expect to get rich by copying everyone else, you need to find what works for you, what YOU are great at, and exploit that to the maximum

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Old 03-31-2009, 07:30 PM   #90
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I would say not necessarily.

Sometimes it is better not to know too much because when you do you tend not to focus on one thing at a time and so you find that your profits also decline in the process.

On the other hand it you are focus and put what you learn to use then I would say yes and you learn more you earn more.

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Old 03-31-2009, 07:35 PM   #91
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I'd say the more you earn, the more you learn.

Meaning as you earn more, you learn what's important and what's not which allows you to cut through the BS much more easily.

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The quote should read:

"The more you take action on what you learn, the more you earn"

You can learn all day long and not do anything with the knowledge.
i'm with you kenneth.
without action, it's all talk.

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Old 04-02-2009, 08:04 AM   #93
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my 2c :

learn while you earn ... by taking action you'll learn what works and what doesn't ... you can't expect to get rich by copying everyone else, you need to find what works for you, what YOU are great at, and exploit that to the maximum
I definately agree that one of the best ways to learn is to actually take action
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For me it has always been "The More you learn the less you have to do to earn"

Take SEO and SEM for example, 80% of what your read is completley uneccessary to achieve the results you require. Its the old 80/20 rule again. Once you get to the point of knowing the 20%, life becomes a little easier.

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Absolutely correct!!
I remember when i build my first website,it was created to promote my work(i build fireplaces).It was awful when i look at the screens
But I have spent lots of time and lots of sleepless nights to learn.
Learn,Learn and Learn! That whats need to done.

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No doubt about it learning is important...but even more important is implementing. After 17 years of coaching on this, I'm completely amazed at the large percentage of people who quit and walk away just before they were likely to get some great results.

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Hi Ryan,

I think that's a bogus statement. It's not knowledge that gets you sales or ahead, but the action combined with the knowledge.

For instance, I know a guy who has been in college for over 20 years. He never held down a job, but continues to insist that he hasn't learned enough yet. Now this guy isn't getting anywhere but in deeper debt. He takes out all kinds of loans so ...

He asked me not that long ago why I am making the money I make, and why he can't. I told him that's because I took action, and he didn't. He could do the very same thing if he wanted to, but he's afraid to step out and take action.

Here's another example: How many times have you seen new people claim information overload? Learning is good, but if you are just seeking knowledge, you are not moving. And moving or taking action will allow you to grow so you can take a step forward.

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Here's my take on this.

I did a variety of activities and learned a hell of a lot for the last 4 years or so. But only recently did I discover how to translate that into a full-time income.

Gathering more knowledge is like upgrading your light bulb from 15W to 40W to 60W to 100W etc. But if you don't have simple electricity, it's useless.

However, if you stop reaching around in the dark and find the light switch, then the fruits of all your previous efforts do count and are worth it.

This has been my experience anyway.

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That is sometimes true, but just like everybody here said, you have to take action of course and not just sit down and just learn. How bout the quote in my sig?

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For me it's kind of easy, the more I learn, the more excited I am, the more action I take, the more I make.

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