Affiliates. Switch it up!

[Sean A McAlister]

Use CPA Offers instead.

There is a great subforum where you can learn
more about Cost Per Action (CPA) offers.
Ad Networks - CPA, CPM, CPL - Millionaire Makers..

But I wanted to post this here because i felt it is appropriate as
there seems to be more and more newcomers who may not
be too familiar.

Anyway...

There are a lot of great threads in here that teach Multi-Million dollar methods. We all know what they are. But one common theme is Affiliate Products, Links, Theft, Refunds, Conversions, this...that.....

Why? Why spend time writing articles, press releases, hubpages and everything else...driving traffic to your site in hopes that people whip out there credit card.

Find a great Pay Per Lead offer and run with it. CPA Networks links are harder to manipulate and are 99% of the time cookied. There are programs
that pay out $1.25- $60+ per lead.

If you have hundreds of people coming to your site with no action...and you keep asking why...they do not want to buy what you offering.

But...if you aren't trying to sell anything and they are getting something such as Free Ringtones they would be more likely to give their information...and you just got paid.

How many more optins do you get vs sales?

Bet you make more getting names than you do selling....something to think about.


highest regards,
Sean

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[Sean A McAlister]

Thanks Man.....

I always know I can count on you when I need you!

[Alice Seba]

Hi Sean,

I am definitely not a CPA expert, but in my experience, I've learned a couple of things and I think they're things for others to consider:

- A lot of CPA offers just don't convert or the CPA networks have stringent requirements that void a lot of sign ups...leaving you with a pitiful conversion rate. Of course, if you get deep into this, you'll learn what does convert, but it's not always something one can jump right into and they'll hit a goldmine.

- A lot of CPA offers are GARBAGE, so if you're putting your name on your promotions, it's something to consider. Those offers for "free stuff" usually have people jumping through all kinds of hoops, signing up for tons of other stuff just bombarding your referrals with other stuff in order to get their free offer. Your readers may want to throttle you when they're done!

Just something to think about for those considering the jump - especially if you're trying to build relationships (repeat readers, buyers, etc) with your audience. Personally, I wouldn't be focusing on ClickBank either - a lot of what's there is junk too. Instead focus on finding good products and offers THEN find the affiliate program.

Alice

[Alice Seba]

Hey...you changed your subject line...LOL. I guess I didn't need to mention ClickBank.

[JayXtreme]

Originally Posted by The IM Reporter

But one common theme is Affiliate Products, Links, Theft, Refunds, Conversions, this...that.....

Why?

Because the money is there, where a niche needs feeding, an affiliate can feed and make money.. straight up.. I'm not jokin', you can actually turn a profit by selling products to people via an affiliate program. Money is made when a conversion happens....

Why spend time writing articles, press releases, hubpages and everything else...driving traffic to your site in hopes that people whip out there credit card.

Because the 3 methods you mentioned are powerful forms of traffic generation, for targeted traffic to sites and pages that have offers for something that those same people want, need or desire.

Feed a hungry crowd with exactly what they want and you will turn a profit.

I don't run my affiliate business on "HOPE" (your words). I run it on calculated investments of time, money, effort.. that almost always turn me a profit, surprisingly enough, with affiliate products...

Find a great Pay Per Lead offer and run with it. CPA Networks links are harder to manipulate and are 99% of the time cookied. There are programs
that pay out $1.25- $60+ per lead.

Sean, dude.

How many successful CPA offer campaigns do you have under your belt?

How many CPA offers do you currently run in your funnel that have:

a) Fully accepted you as part of the network

b) Paid you consistently over a 6 month period whilst maintaining their good standing and ethics in the market place.

Seriously Sean.. this kind of theory forum posting is what sends people off in crazy directions, stumping up cash for courses that they don't need, don't know how to use and never will be able to follow, because CPA marketing is MUCH more than the traffic -> Offer - > Profit model that we are so used to. There's a whole plethora of fallen trees in that road.

I'm not knocking YOU Sean, I'm just saying your advice is flawed. You are essentially telling people who maybe haven't been making consistent income as an affiliate to change everything they are doing and switch their business to CPA offers.

I'm a little shocked to say the least Sean, you are very smart and VERY intelligent.. this post kind of confused me.

If you have hundreds of people coming to your site with no action...and you keep asking why...they do not want to buy what you offering.

If ANYONE has hundreds of people coming to ANY website with no action, then CPA offers aren't going to make the blind bit of difference, you know why?.. if the initial offers weren't targeted enough to invoke an action, then neither are the CPA offers going to be.

Traffic that doesn't convert is POORLY targeted traffic, Regardless of what you are sending them to. If people aren't converting traffic then they need to change the earlier stages of the marketing, not necessarily the latter.

highest regards,
Sean

And to you too Sean.. please don't think I am knocking you Sean, just this advice is flawed.

I am certainly not advising against CPA marketing, I have some really cool converting campaigns placed into my funnel... but it is an area of the industry that requires some solid education before people jump right in spending cash or more importantly TIME that they don't have.

Peace

Jay

p.s. Alice Seba... your content ROCKS!!

[Sean A McAlister]

Originally Posted by JayXtreme

Because the money is there, where a niche needs feeding, an affiliate can feed and make money.. straight up.. I'm not jokin', you can actually turn a profit by selling products to people via an affiliate program. Money is made when a conversion happens....

Yes, I realize this....

Because the 3 methods you mentioned are powerful forms of traffic generation, for targeted traffic to sites and pages that have offers for something that those same people want, need or desire.

Feed a hungry crowd with exactly what they want and you will turn a profit.

I don't run my affiliate business on "HOPE" (your words). I run it on calculated investments of time, money, effort.. that almost always turn me a profit, surprisingly enough, with affiliate products...

Jay, i was throwing out idea's and obviously this would not apply to you.
And if you go with a Targeted CPA offer such as Lighting or Hosting or
Interior Design you are targeting traffic or as some say monetizing your traffic.

Sean, dude.

How many successful CPA offer campaigns do you have under your belt?

How many CPA offers do you currently run in your funnel that have:

a) Fully accepted you as part of the network

b) Paid you consistently over a 6 month period whilst maintaining their good standing and ethics in the market place.

Here is my Construction Company's Site. Needs updated
but you will notice the CPA offers which have not changed for over
6 months...and bring me consistent revenue. Now...I a do not have a specific "Campaign Running for these sites" but they are obviously a fully integrated component to my business. These are geo-targeted sites and
rely more on offline marketing traffic builders.

I am doing nothing different with my marketing, still article writing, press releases, affiliate marketing etc....

Mountain Crest Construction Portfolio


Here is one of my developments
Canyon Creek Falls Updates

you will notice the CPA Offers.Same as above applies. This site will be updated next week as we just got the blacktop down.

I could show you many more but do not want to come across as self promotional and i hope this was the Proof you were looking for especially when it comes to ethics, community and good standing.

Seriously Sean.. this kind of theory forum posting is what sends people off in crazy directions, stumping up cash for courses that they don't need, don't know how to use and never will be able to follow, because CPA marketing is MUCH more than the traffic -> Offer - > Profit model that we are so used to. There's a whole plethora of fallen trees in that road.

This is no different than giving someone a idea about link building. Either its for you or not...and is meant to have discussion about.

I'm not knocking YOU Sean, I'm just saying your advice is flawed. You are essentially telling people who maybe haven't been making consistent income as an affiliate to change everything they are doing and switch their business to CPA offers.

And I am not knocking YOU Jay. My advice may be flawed. Everyone is entitled to an opinion and I am acutely aware of that.

I'm a little shocked to say the least Sean, you are very smart and VERY intelligent.. this post kind of confused me.

Hey man....thanks for the kudos

If ANYONE has hundreds of people coming to ANY website with no action, then CPA offers aren't going to make the blind bit of difference, you know why?.. if the initial offers weren't targeted enough to invoke an action, then neither are the CPA offers going to be.

Traffic that doesn't convert is POORLY targeted traffic, Regardless of what you are sending them to. If people aren't converting traffic then they need to change the earlier stages of the marketing, not necessarily the latter.

I am with you. These are fundamental no matter what you do.

And to you too Sean.. please don't think I am knocking you Sean, just this advice is flawed.

I am certainly not advising against CPA marketing, I have some really cool converting campaigns placed into my funnel... but it is an area of the industry that requires some solid education before people jump right in spending cash or more importantly TIME that they don't have.

Jay, I never intimated to spend cash. In fact i was presenting quite the opposite. Some of Commission Junctions CPA offers such as Franklin Covey, Weight Watchers, GoDaddy have some great offers and great affiliate tools.

Cost nothing to become a affiliate.
I am no expert nor claiming to be in the area of CPA...just looking at my stuff and thought
it would be a good discussion.

-Sean

[MarQueteer]

Originally Posted by Alice Seba

Just something to think about for those considering the jump - especially if you're trying to build relationships (repeat readers, buyers, etc) with your audience. Personally, I wouldn't be focusing on ClickBank either - a lot of what's there is junk too. Instead focus on finding good products and offers THEN find the affiliate program.

True, that's why I'd typically recommend PPC traffic for CPA, works better anyway in my experience.