2012

[Don Schenk]

When I googled 2012 the first thing it brought me to was... "2012 The Movie"

Well that settles everything. A full-length flick is being made about it.

1. If the world doesn't end in 2012, the movie will not get residual play on TV or DVD because it will be laughable.

2. If the world does in fact end in 2012, the movie will not get any residual play either.

Therefore I conclude... it is a waste of money to make "2012 The Movie."

See how easy it is to solve all the world's problems.

:-Don

[Chris Kent]

World ending in 2012, what a load of rubbish!

[Kevin Riley]

This would cause earth quakes, volcanic eruptions and tidal waves like we've never seen and it would be pretty tough for anything to survive.

Gonna die someday, and I'd much rather go out in a ball of flames or riding a giant wave. Cataclysmic events? Bring 'em on. I love earthquakes and typhoons. The others should be fun too.

[Matt Maiden]

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

riding a giant wave.

Oh, no. Not another opportunity to bring out the Mankini

[Kevin Riley]

Originally Posted by Matthew Maiden

Oh, no. Not another opportunity to bring out the Mankini

If I'm going to die in a most gruesome and horrible way, it should be in a mankini.

[Matt Maiden]

Kevin,

Obviously you want us to die in a more gruesome and horrible way than you.

What a mean spirited person.

May you watch your precious little hamsters go before you.

[Paul Myers]

Matt,

Watch over my shoulder as I shoot the Cash Cow

[splorf]

Brilliant!

That is almost as good a sig file as "I'm John McCabe, and I approved this message."


Paul

[Thomas Wilkinson]

Go down to the OT forum and just whisper 2012. The Tinfoil Hat
crew are already building their bunkers.

Tom

[myob]

There was a whole lotta money made on the 2000 millenium craze. Other fortunes made in the economic crash of 2001, 2003, and again in 2008. Fortunes will also be made in 2009. We could make even more millions off the 2012 fanatics. Then there is the death star in 2036, that will collide with earth and destroy the civilization that survives 2012. More millions to be made. The world might end, but opportunity to sell to gloom and doom suckers just goes on and on forever.

[MakingMoneyAtHome]

Originally Posted by Star69

But I've heard, for those of you in the U.S., that the waters of the Great Lakes will rush down the Missisippi River to the Gulf of Mexico, and there would be massive flooding for many miles both East and West of the river. Not a great place to be.

I knew there was a reason I keep getting the urge to want to move from Michigan. I've lived here most of my life and I really do want to get out of this state.

Dawn

[Phnx]

Originally Posted by Kurt

This is the Chinese quatrain I refered to in my first post above. It not only points to 2012, but to the exact day the Mayan calender and the alignment of our solar system.

Scientists also think there were be a ton of solar activety in 2012, plus Yellowstone is about 50,000 years overdue from exploding, which would likely end civilization as we know it.
.

Ah, groovy, my favourite topic! We've done it to death in the OT, but it never gets old.

Terence McKenna's "Timewave Zero" theory also coincidentally came to an end bang on 2012, and he wasn't aware of the Mayan Calendar at the time, he was correlating the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching with our DNA.

There are just so many coincidences in this area it's mind boggling. The Hopi, the Sioux, Cherokee, the list goes on and on. Some give 2011-2013-2014 which is near enough. I reckon they are all talking about the same event and overlaying their own cultural beliefs on it.

A lot of people confuse the "World" with the "Earth" - just because our world as we know it may end, don't mean the Earth will. She'll go on, but will we?

It's also not a valid comparison when people throw up the Y2K scare: that was man-made, and if computer programmers hadn't got paid a ****load of money in the years leading up to it to try and avert the problem, who knows whether it would have caused problems? This is a real event coming up in 2012, the Precession Of The Equinoxes and it only happens every 26,000 years. How awesome is that?!!

Have a look at these scientific pointers on solar flares and the laymans explanation of what's gonna happen - ignore the rest of the site, it's a bit dippy, but the article itself is good and it explains what's gonna happen at the alignment when the planetary barycenters will be affected. The Perfect Storm?

http://www.viewzone.com/endtime.html

The second page is more interesting in that it has Dr Paul LaViolettes work and info from the IRAS Satellite.

"Before Aquila, scientists just feared exploding stars -- novas and supernovas. Now things are different. It's like living in a ghetto and fearing drive-by shootings and random bullets. Then one day you learn that there's a nuclear bomb down the street, waiting to explode."

If you compare the cave drawings with the laboratory experiment, that has to give pause for thought IMO. Is it yet another coincidence that those ancient people got the exact number of 'flares' correct, or were they around to witness the event? And is it about to happen again? The Galaxy does appear to like cycles.

http://www.viewzone.com/endtime2x.html

How about the Hopi Elder who was interviewed by the late Dr Robert Ghostwolf (on Art Bells show), who when trying to clarify the prophecy said:

"The Purifier will appear as the Red Kachina, maybe that means it will appear red in the telescopes that the scientists use. It will remain in place for a long time. Like an eye watching us. That is when Saquasohuh, the one that is called the Blue Star Kachina will also return." (Dr Paul LaViolette also says we will see a 'blue star' when his 'superwave' begins!)

And look what the Hubble found in 1996, the so-called "Hour Glass Nebula".



(Here's a link re Hopi prophecy: http://www.wolflodge.org/bluestar/bluestar.htm )

You betcha ass I think something will be happening around that time. The question is what?

Those solar flares may very well knock out communications so I doubt the internet will be functioning in that eventuality.

I'm like you Kurt, there are just way too many coincidences pointing to that particular date to blithely dismiss them.

(I'll gladly wear my Tin Foil Hat, thank you very much Thomas. )

If you spot a 'blue star' in the sky, RUN!

[Jason Zalesky]

It just blinked at me....oh god I have been at the computer to long today!

[Dan C. Rinnert]

Originally Posted by Phnx

It's also not a valid comparison when people throw up the Y2K scare: that was man-made, and if computer programmers hadn't got paid a ****load of money in the years leading up to it to try and avert the problem, who knows whether it would have caused problems? This is a real event coming up in 2012, the Precession Of The Equinoxes and it only happens every 26,000 years. How awesome is that?!!

Have a look at these scientific pointers on solar flares and the laymans explanation of what's gonna happen - ignore the rest of the site, it's a bit dippy, but the article itself is good and it explains what's gonna happen at the alignment when the planetary barycenters will be affected. The Perfect Storm?

...

I'm like you Kurt, there are way just too many coincidences pointing to that particular date to blithely dismiss them.

(I'll gladly wear my Tin Foil Hat, thank you very much Thomas. )

Really, haven't we gone through all this before? Y2K was the "perfect storm" too. The turn of the millennium. The Y2K computer issue. Churches had billboards with "time is running out" clocks. Computers would crash, planes would fall from the skies, modern communications wouldn't work. In the midst of the chaos, Russia or China or someone would start launching the nukes; or the nuclear weapons might go off automatically. Nuclear power plants would fail, and explode. Food and water would be scarce without all the electronic backbone to guard them. We were all going to die! Didn't Nostradamus have some predictions for the year 2000 as well?

Before that, there was Mother Shipton's prophecy that the world would come to an end in 1991. (And, before that, her prophecy was that the world would come to an end in 1881.)

Halley's Comet in 1987 was going to fall to Earth and kill us all.

A Native American prophecy held that one day people would light rooms by touching the walls, that men would fly in the sky, and the world would end soon after.

Before the first atomic bomb tests, there were worries that it would set off a chain reaction that would destroy the world.

People in 1899 worried about the end of the world coming.

In 999, there were people convinced that the then-Pope was the anti-Christ and that the world would come to an end before the millennium.

But, one thing is perhaps for certain. In about a billion years, the sun will have grown so hot that the water on Earth will be boiled away. A few billion years from now, the sun will probably burn up the Earth. What happens to us between now and then is anybody's guess.

But, if you're still worried, I guess you've got about 46 months to develop warp drive technology and build a spaceship to get out of Dodge, or to build a time machine that'll let you jump forward in time several years to when recovery is long finished, or to build yourself a really awesome shelter that'll survive anything.

[Neo33]

2012? Hmmm, OH yeah I remember.....The Olypics lol

[Christie Love]

The same thing (or worse) happened in Y2K. Everyone got all freaked out and started building forts in the middle of nowhere and nothing at all happened. That was crazy. I worked at a bank at that time and everyone was pulling their money out of their account.

We laughed so hard when everyone came back to the bank to redeposit their money. If it's God's will. Let it be. But, I can say that it's definitely a profitable niche to promote.

[myob]

These are all great ideas for niche marketing. We also have global warming, earthquakes, nuclear conflagaration, worldwide economic collapse, bacteria pandemics, and errant weather devastation. That should keep us busy until 2012 and beyond.

Megiddo: The Omega Code 2 (2001)

Showing on TV now ....

James

[AdiPurush]

I have heard a lot about 2012 even on few news channels but i don't believe 'coz it doesn't make any sense.

[Oracle_320th]

One very well-known fortune teller from my country that had been predicted tsunami in south east Asia, Obama election and the rest predicted that at 2012 population will be reduced to 40%.

Well, whatever must happen will be happened after all. But we human will continue to live and survive in one way or the other.

[MakingMoneyAtHome]

Originally Posted by AdiPurush

I have heard a lot about 2012 even on few news channels but i don't believe 'coz it doesn't make any sense.

I wouldn't believe anything I seen on the news anyway.

Dawn

[Mike Hill]

Time to start building the Ark... Who's with me

[nick1123]

Wow is this thread still growing?

I saw it yesterday, googled 2012, and decided it was bunch of crap being peddled to us by marketers.

I wonder what we can learn from this...
Fear sells...
Weird whacked out theories sell if enough people buy into it and especially if hollywood makes a movie...

[Kurt]

Originally Posted by Dan C. Rinnert

Really, haven't we gone through all this before? Y2K was the "perfect storm" too. The turn of the millennium. The Y2K computer issue. Churches had billboards with "time is running out" clocks. Computers would crash, planes would fall from the skies, modern communications wouldn't work. In the midst of the chaos, Russia or China or someone would start launching the nukes; or the nuclear weapons might go off automatically. Nuclear power plants would fail, and explode. Food and water would be scarce without all the electronic backbone to guard them. We were all going to die! Didn't Nostradamus have some predictions for the year 2000 as well?

Before that, there was Mother Shipton's prophecy that the world would come to an end in 1991. (And, before that, her prophecy was that the world would come to an end in 1881.)

Halley's Comet in 1987 was going to fall to Earth and kill us all.

A Native American prophecy held that one day people would light rooms by touching the walls, that men would fly in the sky, and the world would end soon after.

Before the first atomic bomb tests, there were worries that it would set off a chain reaction that would destroy the world.

People in 1899 worried about the end of the world coming.

In 999, there were people convinced that the then-Pope was the anti-Christ and that the world would come to an end before the millennium.

But, one thing is perhaps for certain. In about a billion years, the sun will have grown so hot that the water on Earth will be boiled away. A few billion years from now, the sun will probably burn up the Earth. What happens to us between now and then is anybody's guess.

But, if you're still worried, I guess you've got about 46 months to develop warp drive technology and build a spaceship to get out of Dodge, or to build a time machine that'll let you jump forward in time several years to when recovery is long finished, or to build yourself a really awesome shelter that'll survive anything.

About Y2K, what you're leaving out is the gigantic effort many people/programers made to fix the problem.

Also, this logic is faulty...Because other things didn't happen doesn't mean something else won't happen either. And you are dismissing things that have happened, such as comets/asteroids have caused at least one mass exstinction, Yellowstone has blown at least 5-6 times and will blow again, etc.

Last time Yellowstone blew, it put so much ash into the Mississippi that the river stopped flowing.

Again, I don't believe in the 2012 doomsday prediction, but we can't say it won't happen simply because other predictions didn't come through.

[Mike Hill]

It's amazing how a fiction movie called 2012 is causing all of this hoopla ...

I guess I'll have to watch Water World again...

Mike Hill

[Kurt]

Originally Posted by Phnx

Ah, groovy, my favourite topic! We've done it to death in the OT, but it never gets old.

Terence McKenna's "Timewave Zero" theory also coincidentally came to an end bang on 2012, and he wasn't aware of the Mayan Calendar at the time, he was correlating the 64 hexagrams of the I Ching with our DNA.

There are just so many coincidences in this area it's mind boggling. The Hopi, the Sioux, Cherokee, the list goes on and on. Some give 2011-2013-2014 which is near enough. I reckon they are all talking about the same event and overlaying their own cultural beliefs on it.

<snip>

I'm like you Kurt, there are just way too many coincidences pointing to that particular date to blithely dismiss them.

(I'll gladly wear my Tin Foil Hat, thank you very much Thomas. )

If you spot a 'blue star' in the sky, RUN!

Thanks for bringing up Terence McKenna. He is the guy that calculated the old quatrain.

Let me repeat, I don't believe the world will end in 2012 and don't buy the doomsday threats.

However, any reasonable person should find all the coincidences to be very interesting. Pure math and logic should tell us that two unique cultures (Chinese, Mayans) picking the EXACT same day has some very long odds...It's at least a billion to one and probably higher.

Then toss in what Einstein said about the exact same day, and it at the very least it makes for interesting discussion.

The Mayans, Chinese and Einstein didn't pick a time frame of a few years. They all picked the exact same day.

Forget Doomsday...But the coincidence is too high to ignore. Do the math.

What did these ancient people know about astronomy that they could project that the exact day that the Sun, Earth and a BLACKHOLE in the center of the Milky Way would all be in align? This in itself is a very interesting point of conversation. This isn't your typical doomsday threat.

[Dana_W]

Originally Posted by Kevin Riley

If I'm going to die in a most gruesome and horrible way, it should be in a mankini.

For the love of God. Now I have this image stuck in my head of Kevin Riley surfing a giant tidal wave in a mankini.

2012 - do we all remember when the world ended because Nostradamus said it would? No?

2012 is a good moneymaking opportunity for some people. That is all.

[Thomas Wilkinson]

Originally Posted by nick1123

I wonder what we can learn from this...
Fear sells...

The best comment in the thread. Break is over.
Back to work.

Tom

[Paul Myers]

Kurt,

What did these ancient people know about astronomy that they could project that the exact day that the Sun, Earth and a BLACKHOLE in the center of the Milky Way would all be in align? This in itself is a very interesting point of conversation.

They didn't know it existed, nor did they need to. The position was based on the crossing of the line running through the center of the visible "edge" of the Milky Way galaxy and the line along which the constellations appear to travel.

The event in question is the time at which the sun will appear to stop while overlapping that exact crossing. Any society with sufficient interest in the stars could figure out that would happen. With an accurate enough calendar, they would come up with the same date.

They were looking at the symbolism. Einstein was speculating on the possible consequences. He was very likely aware of the prediction when he engaged in that particular speculation.

No coincidence at all. And not that surprising.


Paul

[Kurt]

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Kurt,They didn't know it existed, nor did they need to. The position was based on the crossing of the line running through the center of the visible "edge" of the Milky Way galaxy and the line along which the constellations appear to travel.

The event in question is the time at which the sun will appear to stop while overlapping that exact crossing. Any society with sufficient interest in the stars could figure out that would happen. With an accurate enough calendar, they would come up with the same date.

They were looking at the symbolism. Einstein was speculating on the possible consequences. He was very likely aware of the prediction when he engaged in that particular speculation.

No coincidence at all. And not that surprising.


Paul

Paul,

First you say they didn't need to know, nor did they know, which makes it even more of a coincendence. They could have picked any number of celestrial events to symbolize the end of time.

And here's the phallacy in your argument. The Chinese quatrain isn't based on astronomy, nor were the later calcutations of it. So your theory just doesn't hold water. Two totally seperate "sciences", for lack of a better word, came to the same exact day.

Yeah, Einstein was aware of the Mayan calendar, but couln't have known of the Chinese quatrain, as it hadn't been calculated yet. The Chinese didn't even know...The quatrain was written, but not calculated until recently by Terence McKenna, who himself didn't know about the Mayan calendar at the time, and found it to be an interesting coincidence.

Even assuming you were correct about the reading of the stars, picking a point in the sky for the end of time is one thing. But picking a point that aligns with a blackhole, is another, since they didn't have knowledge of blackholes. This makes it a coincidence as this alignment is what Einstein based his comments.

Why did they pick THAT day? A day which Eistein say "could" have catosrophic events.

And to me, it's very surprising, as I've never seen another doomsday prediction backed up as possible by Einstein. Again, I don't buy the Doomsday thing. However, I'm not going to discount Eistein's comments as not being interesting or worthy of discussion.

[HeySal]

Kurt - Interesting.

The Mayans picked "that day" because of the length of that particular calendar cycle. To the Mayans, science and spirituality was the same thing. They lived daily according to the energies charted for that particular day. They had a 56 year calendar already but it was not long enough for some of their scientific work so they mathematically derived a new long term calendar that was a multiplication of the 56 year and something else (can't remember). It rendered the end of that calendar in Dec 2012.
This date was not originally meant to mean the end of the world completely as marketing has proported - yes it was MARKETERS that popularized this ancient philosophy and they got it wrong. December 2012, is a point at which the vibrations of the Earth will allow it to take existence as an object invisible to most of us - just as we can't see ultraviolet light, but it is there.
Those who have achieved the higher vibrational levels will seem to disappear on that date, when they have just merely begun to vibrate at a frequency which will make it impossible for those who have not achieved this rate to see them. THose "left behind" will see an earth like it is now without those that have vibrated out - and those who vibrate out will see earth however one would see it in the next frequency out. The religious part comes in because of the spiritual necessities to be able to achieve the correct vibrational frequency.

They also used astronomy to chart daily energy levels and fields so they would know the proper activities to indulge in on any particular day to be in sync with the universe so that explains why science and philosophy is in correspondence - as it should be if we are to achieve balance on the planet, as the Indians full well realized, too.

There really shouldn't be much question of an energy event 2012, as an alignment with the center of the galaxy will align us with cosmic winds we usually do not experience. My guess would be the worst of that could be a dust cloud blowing into the path of the sun (boom, ouch).
There might be heightened radiation and that WOULD play havoc with internet, phones, tv's etc - at least running on the energy we have them on now. I have not really paid enough attention to find out how long that alignment will last. Days? Weeks? Months?

As far as Notradamus - I would love someone to point out to me where he talks about 2012 - all I caught was 2096 or around there.

Anyhow - What if our computers did fry? We would really miss friends that we made online, but is there anyone here that ACTUALLY can't survive without the internet? It's only been around for awhile and we did just fine before.

I would suggest that anyone severely worried about it should maybe start building a business that would translate to brick and mortar without problems.

[EndGame]

Guys, I have found the thread interesting to read, but haven't kept up with all the back and forths so forgive me if this has been mentioned...

Does anyone know if einstein gave any statistics relating to the probability of a catastrophe on the day in question? As in, a 90% chance, or less? Something MIGHT be happening is a little vague and I find it surprising that no one would have looked into the probability of this more.

[Paul Myers]

Kurt,

What they didn't know, or need to know, is that there was a black hole at the "center" of the galaxy. (Astronomers aren't really in agreement as to where that is, exactly.) The lines chosen are the result of the movements of stars, and they're all related to simple celestial mechanics.

As for the Chinese "prophecies," you're right. My argument doesn't hold. I made an assumption which appears to be inaccurate. I assumed that your statements about the Chinese predicting the end of the world on that date, or even in that year, were correct.

I can't find anything at all that points to this. The only thing I can find that tries to connect the date to the I Ching is some very interesting fractal math applied to the number 64. That was based on the speculation that the I Ching was some sort (or part) of a calendar system.

In that exercise, they came up with a possible range, which they shifted to agree with their theory. That's not a prediction. It's making irrelevant data fit a desired conclusion.

If there's something specific in the Chinese literature that I missed in my Googling, please point me to it. I'll be happy to look at it and, if I'm incorrect, will cheerfully say so.

As for Nostradamus... Utter waste of time. You can make a consistent and supportable argument, using his writings, to support the belief that Jerry Lewis will rise from the dead and lead an army of comedians against the enemies of the West.

Really. A friend of mine did just that, back in high school. I wish I'd written the thing down. It was brilliant. He did it to show his brother how unsupportable some of the theories were that were floating around.

The similarity of Hopi prophecies to Mayan prophecies is not surprising, as the Hopis (at the very least) stayed among the Mayans during their migrations. (There's some speculation that the Mayans are descendants of Hopi travellers, but there's nothing I've seen to raise that above the level of speculation.)

The Mayans gave a very specific date, on which a real astronomical event will occur. They assigned that as the end of the Long Count. They said that it would accompany (cause?) civilization changing events. The interpretations of those predictions are subject to a lot of debate, since the Spanish wiped out virtually all Mayan writings, along with some 800,000 of the Mayans themselves.

The most convincing interpretation of their intent is that the Earth will be flooded. I suggested that hooking this to the effects of global warming would make for an interesting storyline. Not that I believe any of it other than the inarguable positions of the stars, which are a matter of mathematics, not supernatural powers.

As far as Einstein, he was aware that the Mayans were right about the celestial event itself, and that they predicted significant occurrences at that time. Many people, when faced with such a thing, would pose theoretical possibilities, as an exercise in thinking. Einstein was quite fond of those things, so he might have been engaging in a purely intellectual game of, "What if...?"


Paul

[GeorgR.]

when i was "younger" i had a LOT of time and read many, many books in regards to similar subjects.

After all, i didn't get wiser or got any "insight" into the origin of aliens, ufos or how true "prophecies" are - in fact i became more a sceptic.

The human psyche is VERY complex, and so many aspects related to subjects like that rather deal with emotions, hopes, fears, the human mind in general.

>>
Sun, Earth and a BLACKHOLE in the center of the Milky Way would all be in align? This in itself is a very interesting point of conversation
>>
its a pretty known assumption that a black hole is in the center of ANY galaxy.
For the sake of this, lets assume its the case.

You might be surprised how often "sun and earth" and the center of the galaxy align.....as planets have been aligned multiple times already and EACH and ANY time people were freaking about basic kindergarten "trivial" astronomical things happening.

I am not saying that i disregard mayas and hopis...there might be long forgotten knowledge.....however i just cant stand "pseudo science" arguments because it makes things less credible.

[ShayRockhold]

Originally Posted by GoinDeep

Yes yes, i know what you are all thinking.

But hear me out.

if you have not already heard the stories about 2012 simply google it then get back to this thread.

So, firstly id like to say that im somewhat informed in this area not meaning that i have simply read across some crappy sites but i have actually studied this topic in depth and i personally believe it WILL NOT be the end of the world for my own reasons. What i think and feel are not relevant.

The questions i would like to put forward are;

If 2012 will be the year the earth forever changes how will this effect the internet and IM?

As we get closer do you see a larger market here, books, interviews, digital prods?

Let's compare it to another (recent) doomsday date - Y2K.

You know the ones who made a fortune from Y2K? The ones selling survivalist books and supplies. I still remember seeing ads for MREs and such. First Aid kits, survivalist techniques, emergency medical techniques, etc.

This was all offline, mind you. I was not online at that point.

The ones who REALLY made a fortune? The ones who saw the trend before others did.

Now, do you see anyone trying to sell Y2K materials now? Of course not. It was a single event. If you even admit that you had a year's supply of toilet paper and Ramen noodles in your garage people laugh at you (even though they had the same thing ).

2012 will be a bigger seller as the date draws near, but now is the time to plan.

It won't be something to retire on (residual sales), but it will work for a while. 3 years is a long time.

If you want to pursue 2012 material/sales, do it! Then move on to the next niche in 2013.

[Amitywill]

Just found this 2012 forum being advertised on adwords-

2012 Forum

Seems like a lot of people are believing in this stuff. Personally it doesn't bother me. We could all die crossing the road tomorrow.

I'm not gonna waste my time worrying about getting hit with a giant rock. lol.

[skydivedad]

Seems we've lost the lesson of the Millerites.
I suppose it's just as well. Excuse me I have to prepare for a Gamma Ray Burst.....

Paul
P.S. It doesn't really matter since Earth is actually a giant hologram and your all just figments of my imagination.

[myob]

There will be no internet in the year 2013. Ebooks will be worthless because the entire grid will be completely gone. Books will have to be produced offline and delivered by asses. Now is the time to stock up on hot items like manual typewriters and mimeograph copying machines to write for the new age and coming catastrophes.

[williamd52]

The Rich Jerks Net said:
I was wondering when someone would get around to posting this.. I do not think the internet or marketing will much matter if in-fact the year 2012 will be the end as we know it.


So say I:

Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ said "No man knoweth not even the Father".
Enough said. Amen.

[GeorgR.]

even if a giant comet would hit earth and 40% of the population will vanish, and even if religion, philosophy and science would change...

I "predict" there will still be marketing since it is a VERY natural thing for humans to have NEEDS.

And, by the way, i think all that "dreaming" of a new society where everything is great and happy comes solely from the fact that consciously (or sub-consciously) many people are not happy with the CURRENT state of things.

The worse the economy, the poorer the people, the greater the "longing" to a age where everything is "right".

From that point of view a GREAT niche and i predict the 2012 hype even FAR greater than any 2000 hype or 1999 hype before ever was.

[skydivedad]

Originally Posted by williamd52

The Rich Jerks Net said:
I was wondering when someone would get around to posting this.. I do not think the internet or marketing will much matter if in-fact the year 2012 will be the end as we know it.


So say I:

Our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ said "No man knoweth not even the Father".
Enough said. Amen.

Hi William
I realize it is just a typo but you've misquoted scripture. It isn't "not even the Father" it is "but my Father only"

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" - Matthew 24:36

All The Best
Paul

[Loloy Diango]

I'm wondering what the Mayans or the Hopis are saying about mankind and our planet after 2012...

Any info on this?

[AuctionExecutive]

Originally Posted by famous2313

I don't believe 2012 will be the end of MANKIND.

I believe the earth will be different an many cases

global warming, earth quakes, tide waves. We might

see more of that, but the end of Mankind. Nah

Don't see it happening..

Tens of Thousands of Years....Man has been threw so much and

what have we done.....we conquered or adapted.

MAN WILL LIVE ON!!!!

Thousands of scientists say that global warming is not caused by mankind, but by sun spots and solar flares. This is why temperatures on all the planets in our solar system have been rising over the past several years.

This sun activity has decreased recently in the past couple of years and that is why global temperatures are now dropping.

I'm not saying that the global warming thing is a hoax, just don't believe everything you see in the mainstream media.

Check out alternative news sites every once in awhile if you want to get both sides of the story.

[bob_sikorski]

Yes, there is global warming. It's a cycle that occurs every 20 years or so. Al Gore is making a fortune off of all the crap he is selling to people to help prevent global warming. Forget it! It ain't going to happen.

[Spike SpiegelIM]

Well if the world goes, I hope it's a zombie apocalypse.. Yeah bring it on..

[Mark McClure]

Kind of an accidental 2012 sub-niche to my eyes, but the 'financial Armageddon' sector looks to have a promising marketing future as folks identify profitable opportunities around peak oil, peak credit, peak water etc etc.

Take this site for example Whiskey and Gunpowder features articles on gold, oil, currencies, energy, emerging markets, profits and freedom.

It's really well done - can't help thinking there are some ace copywriters on their team...?
Lots of great free reports and ... well, sign up and see. Great marketing. I'm impressed.

[X]

Be prepared.

[Paul Myers]

Be prepared.

Oh. My. Dog.

I just had a picture flash through my mind. That avatar of yours... in a Boy Scout uniform.

brrrrr

[Sean Hoffman]

WE ARE ALL GOING TO DIE IT'S 2000 ALL OVER AGAIN AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!

[Star69]

Originally Posted by AuctionExecutive

Thousands of scientists say that global warming is not caused by mankind.

Global warming is caused by Al Gore opening his mouth.

He was just in Washington, D.C. the other day speaking to a bunch of senators or something about global warming, imploring the Obama-nation to take swift action, blah, blah, blah, ad nauseum.

Al Gore is making money by making us believe global warming is a serious, manmade problem that can be fixed. (It's not. It's natural and Mother Nature isn't listening to you, Al.)

[tommyp]

Originally Posted by skydivedad

Hi William
I realize it is just a typo but you've misquoted scripture. It isn't "not even the Father" it is "but my Father only"

"But of that day and hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels of heaven, but my Father only" - Matthew 24:36

All The Best
Paul

Thanks, I was just about to say something about that.

Originally Posted by jimrpips

Serious? I thought the dude was all-knowing. Bummer, man, so much for omnipotence...

You mean omniscient :-)