Kevin Trudeau latest marketing technique

by KimW
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I turned on the tv this morning to watch a news show I occasionally watch when before I could change the channel to the show,my eye was caught by an investigative news report.

Or at least it appeared to be an investigative news report,as it turns out its Kevin Trudeau's latest infomercial.

While many of us here know what he really is,the infomercial is worth watching just for the marketing lesson.Until the sales pitch came along it seemed like a real investigative report.
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  • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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    I've seen this guy! Really early in the morning though, like 4am or 5am. An entertaining watch to say the least. There is another guy who has an infomercial right now that reads just like a rehashed Clickbank sales letter...can't remember his name though. Oh well, back to ESPN!
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
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      Originally Posted by Michael Milken View Post

      Sounds like you're talking about the guy Anthony Morrison.
      Yup, that's the one. I'm not sure why; but I watch the infomercial every time it's on. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Originally Posted by KimW View Post

    I turned on the tv this morning to watch a news show I occasionally watch when before I could change the channel to the show,my eye was caught by an investigative news report.

    Or at least it appeared to be an investigative news report,as it turns out its Kevin Trudeau's latest infomercial.

    While many of us here know what he really is,the infomercial is worth watching just for the marketing lesson.Until the sales pitch came along it seemed like a real investigative report.
    Yeah, I've watched it, if you're talking about his Free Money thing. I actually bought it. When you call the toll free number they literally have a dozen upsells. I finally had to tell the operator to stop and just put me down for the free money book. I got it last week and am VERY dissapointed with it.

    It's a collection of fluff and hype along with some links to some very general grant and 'lost property' Websites. It also pissed me off to find a bunch of sites where you have to pay for the info. If you're thinking of buying this, most of the info in the book can easily be found spending a couple of hours on Google.

    The "Free Stuff" CD and home based business bonus stuff is a joke too. In the free stuff CD he talks about planting a garden and getting "free" food. Then he talks about hitting bars during happy hour for free food and visiting Costco and other supermarkets when they're giving out free food samples. Pathetic.

    I know Trudeau has had a lot of bad press in the last decade but years ago I bought his Mega Memory course and it's absolutely fantastic. A+ I also got his Natural Health Cures book and found it pretty decent too, though not nearly as good as the Mega Memory course.
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    • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post


      The "Free Stuff" CD and home based business bonus stuff is a joke too. In the free stuff CD he talks about planting a garden and getting "free" food. Then he talks about hitting bars during happy hour for free food and visiting Costco and other supermarkets when they're giving out free food samples. Pathetic.

      I know Trudeau has had a lot of bad press in the last decade but years ago I bought his Mega Memory course and it's absolutely fantastic. A+ I also got his Natural Health Cures book and found it pretty decent too, though not nearly as good as the Mega Memory course.
      I had exactly the same experience! lol
      Years ago I got his memory book and still have it to this day...it was worth every penny. ...but ever since then, his stuff is nothing but a collection of junk to provide new leads for his telemarketers.

      Also, saw where he just lost his $26 million dollar appeal. Expect more infomercials, 'cause he needs money!
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      • Profile picture of the author T.R. McCarroll
        I found it quite interesting ..

        He is using Big Brother whoa is me and how they are screwing the 99% ... "If I was allowed to be on the commercial (but the FTC and courts say I can't) I would tell you about all the programs available for you to get money from the Feds...etc" an interesting means to sell his product.

        Does anybody think he is smart enough to come up with this himself or do guys like this have a whole team of players working this?

        Secondly, how many phone calls did you receive over a period of 6 months with an upsell?

        Thanks in advance.

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      • Profile picture of the author Sajjann
        Originally Posted by Bruce NewMedia View Post

        I had exactly the same experience! lol
        Years ago I got his memory book and still have it to this day...it was worth every penny. ...but ever since then, his stuff is nothing but a collection of junk to provide new leads for his telemarketers.

        Also, saw where he just lost his $26 million dollar appeal. Expect more infomercials, 'cause he needs money!
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        Kevin is a master in blending truth with exaggerated claims in all he says which makes it hard to figure him out. But as you guys have already said, he has some products that have good value.

        He has a membership site that is called Global Information Network. Have you guys heard of it?


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  • Profile picture of the author yako
    Search YouTube for "John Stossel Exposes Liar Kevin Trudeau" . Guys like this destroy the industry.
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    • Profile picture of the author amarketing
      Yeah, I saw that infomercial, too. It really is a great advertising angle. It had me going for about 5 min., until I realized that each person they interviewed was giving rave reviews. If it was a real investigative report, they would have included at least a FEW dissatisfied people.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    I don't hate Trudeau. I don't think he's the devil. I don't really care what he does. As I've said earlier. He's put out some excellent products. This just isn't one of them in my opinion.

    There's a money back guarantee that comes with this deal and I'm going to use it. End of story. As for the upsells and all the rest, that's what marketers do and I have no problem with that either.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I just spent 20 minutes responding to the different posts and while I hit post it gave me a database error and my post was lost. I'm going repost a shorter version this time.

    Michael,it was called Investigating Free Money,or something like that.

    travlingguy, good breakdown of what you get.even though I disagree with your opinion of the Natural Cures books (there are two now,at least.)

    Trudeau did put out a Mega Memory course a couple of decades ago which WAS excellent. But I remember reading somewhere that he basically stole it and repackaged it.I can't remember,but it may have been Harry Loraynes Merory course he redid.

    Trudeau has spent time in jail in the past,so making his latest venture look like an real investigative report is brilliant imo.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jeff Burritt
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    I am no raving fan of Trudeau. That said, I somehow have one of his books on my self, LOL.

    The quality of the product is ultimately determined by the buyers. Trudeau certainly has a lot of buyers.

    I have to respect his marketing skills.

    Some product creators sell stuff you expect to find at a high-end department stores. Some product creators sell stuff you expect to find at the discount bin at the dollar store.

    It's just a choice of focusing on your target buyers. I think Trudeau knows his buyers.
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  • Profile picture of the author AlphaRosa
    As everyone has eluded to, it's really his marketing skills and techniques we can learn from. Regardless of the quality of his products, his pitch and persuasion abilities are fantastic to win over the average viewer, which is 90%+ of consumers watching.

    I don't like him as a person, but as a marketer, he knows a thing or two.

    Now if he only had a quality product to sell these days he might be making some good bank!
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    Originally Posted by Michael Milken View Post

    I won't bash of any of Trudeau's stuff because I've experienced great results with all of his health books. I lost a ton of weight using the Dr. Simeons protocol he outlined in The Weight Loss Cure. His products on finance, however, have been disappointing. But...if I had to thank anyone for starting me on my road to wealth, its Kevin Trudeau. Listening to a CD of his back in 2007 started me to thinking bigger. While the cd wasn't an all-out "how to get rich" product, it did lay the foundation and tell you what to read and what to do in order to get there.
    Wasn't his weight loss book on eating a special kind of bread? I've never had a weight problem,but I skimmed through it at a store once and that's what I remember.

    But back on topic,I was trying to point out his marketing skills and how he adjusts to different situations. John Stossel did a report debunking him,and now he uses the same tactic to make himself look legit.
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    • Profile picture of the author theebookcavern
      Originally Posted by KimW View Post

      Wasn't his weight loss book on eating a special kind of bread? I've never had a weight problem,but I skimmed through it at a store once and that's what I remember.

      But back on topic,I was trying to point out his marketing skills and how he adjusts to different situations. John Stossel did a report debunking him,and now he uses the same tactic to make himself look legit.
      Saw this thread and had to comment as one of my first ever blog posts on my fitness blog was about none other than Kevin Trudeau himself. I've not done much research on the guy since that post but he does sound like an amazing marketer. With the release of his book 'The Weight Loss Cure' he managed to convince a whole lot of people that injecting HCG (a hormone found in the placenta of pregnant women) would help you lose weight. This was without any prior interest in HCG as a weight loss cure. From my limited research I'm not a fan of him but I'll admit he has some impressive marketing skills.

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      • Profile picture of the author theebookcavern
        Originally Posted by Michael Milken View Post

        The HCG program isn't new; it's not something Kevin Trudeau made up. It's been around since the 1950's. Kevin Trudeau wrote a book about the HCG program which was invented by Dr. ATW Simeons in the late 50's. He was telling the truth about the program being kept a secret because it does in fact cure obesity. Dr. Simeons treated royal families and celebrities secretly for decades before he died. Even in Hollywood today, celebrities are still using HCG secretly. I'm sure that every celebrity you see whose a spokesperson for Jenny Craig or Weight Watchers used the HCG program.
        Hey Michael - I know Dr. Simeons came up with the original HCG diet. What I meant with my comments is that Kevin Trudeau made the HCG diet popular which illustrates his fantastic marketing skills. I agree that the diet program is pretty solid. I just don't think you need the HCG injections.

        Anyway, this isn't a weight loss forum so let's not debate it on here. I respect your views but I personally have a different opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author Rich Struck
    I've seen this new infomercial too and it's ridiculous. I can't believe that people fall for that kind of stuff. Kevin Trudeau is a smart guy, it is only too bad that he doesn't use his skills for good.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by Rich Struck View Post

      I've seen this new infomercial too and it's ridiculous. I can't believe that people fall for that kind of stuff.
      Well, the truth is, there are literally billions in grant money being given out by the government so Trudeau isn't lying. Matthew Lesko has made a fortune compiling legitimate books with details on how to get access to these grants. The key here, is details.

      The federal government publishes these grant opportunities willy nilly in several huge databases so it's really difficult to know what types of grants are available out of tens of thousands of them.

      In his infomercial Trudeau holds his book out as a resource for this info and it's not even close. All he's done is compile some generic links of the main databases. If you want specifics, you're on your own. You can easily get most of these large, non-specific grant databases by doing your own searches.

      That's a shame because since it's likely Trudeau paid a team of researchers to put this thing together he could have just as easily made the book valuable with some real grant programs.
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  • Profile picture of the author Bruce NewMedia
    I love these K Trudeau threads! lol

    I met him in the mid-eighties when he solicited my sales office to buy his memory course.
    ...very young guy and very on purpose.

    I remember thinking at the time, he was the best salesman I'd ever met, and I'd met a few greats by then. It wasn't that he was high-pressure or anything, it was his intense belief in his product that sold me and over half my office.

    Knew a girl who dated him, but she got tired of hearing about his money all the time...and this was before he moved to Boston, before prison, before infomercial fame, before AG lawsuits, and all the rest.

    He continues in the great American tradition of Elmer Gantry, Old West elixir salesman, and TV preachers, ...if Kevin had a stable of really good products, he'd be unstoppable, and untouchable.
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  • Profile picture of the author timb98133
    Thanks for the tips guys. You really have to be careful who you trust! J
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  • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
    I am just going to say it. If you are using infomercials for marketing tips, then in my opinion, you are probably not telling the truth to your buyers. Just like you were tricked into believing it was an investigative report, you are probably tricking your buyers as well.

    I don't care if you think this gives you tips to create better sales copy. Maybe if you just told the truth about what you are selling people would just trust you and buy from you more than just once.

    Nearly every infomercial out there is scammy. Just because they sell like crazy does not mean it is good business practices. If you really want to make sales, help those you are selling your product to, and actually sleep at night without feeling like a scam artist, JUST TELL THE TRUTH!

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    • Profile picture of the author KimW
      Originally Posted by Benjamin Ehinger View Post

      I am just going to say it. If you are using infomercials for marketing tips, then in my opinion, you are probably not telling the truth to your buyers. Just like you were tricked into believing it was an investigative report, you are probably tricking your buyers as well.

      I don't care if you think this gives you tips to create better sales copy. Maybe if you just told the truth about what you are selling people would just trust you and buy from you more than just once.

      Nearly every infomercial out there is scammy. Just because they sell like crazy does not mean it is good business practices. If you really want to make sales, help those you are selling your product to, and actually sleep at night without feeling like a scam artist, JUST TELL THE TRUTH!

      Benjamin Ehinger

      You missed the point completely.
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      • Profile picture of the author Benjamin Ehinger
        Originally Posted by KimW View Post

        You missed the point completely.
        Then you did a poor job of communicating your point because you said you could use this infomercial for marketing lessons.

        Benjamin Ehinger
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  • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
    he is an information marketer just like us, remember whatever you say about him people are saying about you. Alot of his products have helped me out quite a bit.

    just like one person can buy one of my products and make a few thousand dollars a month another person who bought the same product will call me a scam.
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  • I've seen lots of websites that pretend to be news websites but are just affiliate marketing crap. I think it's pretty unethical to do that, but that's just my personal opinion. Why not just create some real valuable content that helps people instead of pretending to be something you're not?
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  • Profile picture of the author Fun to Write
    Seems like no matter how much this guy gets shut down, prosecuted, locked up or dissed online, he keeps coming back and selling more stuff. He's a true huckster and knows how to blend the truth with exaggeration to get people excited enough to pull out their credit cards.

    Before he was disguising his infomercials in the form of news interview programs, so this is just the next step. He probably makes a ton of money on the upsells too. Yeah, he's got to raise a lot of dough to pay on that settlement and keep his fancy lifestyle.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Chicas
    Trudeau's legal woes are many and I wouldn't wanna be in his shoes.

    His infomercials do state that they are "paid advertisements" and he does offer a money back guarantee - so for some people to bicker about "tricked into believing it was an investigative report" I don't know what to tell you.

    He is a marketer and that's what he does. He's not taking money from my pocket.
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  • Profile picture of the author KimW
    I might have done a poor job of communicating,except most of the others got it.
    Learning from something does not mean you do it. Most marketers I know from here do tell the truth and create trust with their customers,not lie to them.

    But you are of course welcome to your opinion.
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  • Profile picture of the author thelibidoguy
    Quite an interesting thread on this guy. I do remember seeing one of his "infomercials" although i spent more time viewing the Playmate in his Free Money infomercial. LOL! There certainly is something to learn from it. Would you consider it a form of Guerrilla Marketing?
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hill
    Kevin Trudeau... Love him or hate him I think he is a brilliant marketer.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarpedMind
    Just my humble opinion, but Kevin Trudeau is one of the best salesmen of all time. He is extremely charismatic. Watch just 5 minutes of one of his infomercial and you'll at least be holding a phone in your hand for the rest of the show, fighting yourself on whether or not you should buy it.

    There's a reason he's a billionaire. Yes, with a b.

    And personally, I like him. He sells good stuff and, while before I thought it was just his selling tactics (whistleblower, etc), judging from the events that have followed him, I'd say they were truthful as well.
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    • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
      Originally Posted by WarpedMind View Post

      Just my humble opinion, but Kevin Trudeau is one of the best salesmen of all time. He is extremely charismatic. Watch just 5 minutes of one of his infomercial and you'll at least be holding a phone in your hand for the rest of the show, fighting yourself on whether or not you should buy it.

      There's a reason he's a billionaire. Yes, with a b.

      And personally, I like him. He sells good stuff and, while before I thought it was just his selling tactics (whistleblower, etc), judging from the events that have followed him, I'd say they were truthful as well.
      I agree he's a great salesman. As for a billionaire, I wasn't aware of that. Do you have a reference? As for selling good stuff... In an earlier post I've expressed high praise for Mega Memory, one of his early offerings.

      His latest book, Free Money They Don't Want You To Know About is a pile of dingo dung. If you don't believe me, buy it. It has a money back guarantee.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarpedMind
    By the way, if Trudeau doesn't know what he's doing, it's pretty amazing that we're all talking about it, showing videos of his infomercial, etc. ;-)
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