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Without a Plan Do You Plan To Fail?

by TLTheLiberator
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Nobody died and made me super guru but here's one on the many things I've noticed on this forum.

I'm only trying to help and this thread isn't for people that are already making good money with their business.

If you don't declare a net business model you can not move on to actually conducting a business model or plan and you'll never make any money.

You will forever be in online business limbo.

Never moving forward to make money land.

I've seen too many comments such as...

"I'm sifting through the info on IM and it's just so overwhelming I don't know where to start"

Guess what?

Lots of people are getting confused because they are intertwining all the different methods of generating visitors with the many methods/models to monetize the visitors.

Traffic/visitor generation tactics are simply a important part of the basic online business model - not the model itself.

Guess what?

If you start by seeking a proven online business model/plan then you'll save yourself tons of time, trouble, confusion and the dreaded often be-moaned Mr. info-overload.

Why?

Because then you begin to have an idea of exactly how you'll attempt to earn income with your net based business, you can finally get on to obtaining the initial knowledge you need to move forward by getting a plan.

For example:

IMO these are the easiest models for a newbie to conduct.

Later on you can get into more involved net business models but these can take you to your initial goal of creating another source of income and also lots more.

- Niche Affiliate Model:

Sell someone else's products for a commission that have nothing to do with "how to make money" to others that do not want to make any money on the internet.

- Make Money Affiliate Model:

Sell someone else's products for a commission that show others "how to make money".

- CPA Model: ( cost per action )

Induce your prospects to sign up for a trial offer, fill out a form etc. When they take an action - you get paid.

- Adsense Model:

Have a page or pages that have content on it and also those ads by Google on the page.

When your prospects click on one of the ads you make money but no one has to purchase anything and you still can make a mint.

Guess what again?

All of the above net business models are well proven.

It all boils downs to what model best fits your personal temperaments etc and actually taking action.


The basics outline for the 3 models mentioned above is to slap up a page -free or paid, put some money making links on the page and get people to that page.

Are you an adult or a child?

I have written this thread to prevent serious people from using Mr. info-overload as an excuse for why they haven't made any money.

Serious people will seek, declare and then obtain the step by step knowledge and tools they need to conduct a proven online business model.



I Sincerely Hope This Helps!!

TL

Ps. These are the best of times for those that have a plan and don't mind conducting the plan. ( taking action )

If you don't create another source of income it will be no one's fault but your own.



PPS. Another net business model you could investigate is the buying and selling of domains.

You don't have to know anything except how to buy/create and sell domain names.
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  • Profile picture of the author YseUp
    Hey, thanks for this post.

    One thing I get a bit confused about is whether I should have a site totally dedicated to one model, or have several models in place together.

    On the one hand I can understand the idea that if someone has a problem and wants a solution they are more likely to just go for it and buy it if there are no other options.

    On the other hand I can see how as site that is not just a landing page but has articles, a blog and gives a freebie in exchange for an e-mail address as well as a sales page (might well be the home page) would be better to get higher google ranking, build a long term relationship with the customer.

    I posted about this dilemma in my first post called: First Post + To Blog or Not to Blog?

    Short recap:

    I'm creating an original e-book. I have two domains registered for this product. One will most definitely be a single sales page. I would like the other domain to have a site which enables me to capture customer details but I don't want this to be a site that requires constant updates. So I'm thinking of it being an article site with an opt in for a freebie. I think that having article site would help people find the site and build a relationship as well help me finish my e-book as the articles will be expanded upon.

    So the question is, do I just put my head down, write the e-book, set up a sales page and drive traffic to it, or do I slowly grow an article site, capture e-mails (the freebie is 75% done) and upsell to the full e-book later.

    What do you think?
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  • Profile picture of the author bp.simms
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by bp.simms View Post

      Hi YseUp,

      Like TLTheLiberator says, you need a plan. You mentioned that you were working on a product. Did you find out what people wanted and then map the product out - or did you just go ahead and put something together that interests you (in the hope that others will buy it).

      Don't try to do too many things at once. If you're into product development then stick to that but make sure you only produce what people want. Obviously you will want to capture email addresses too.

      I suggest you get your product out and see if it sells. If it does then spend time on capturing emails with a view to upselling. Many Warriors would disagree with my approach but it works for me.

      The bottom line is to try something out. If it works then stick to it. If it doesn't then modify your plan.

      I hope this helps.

      Kind regards,
      Brian
      If you don't have a net business model/plan, you need to move on to getting one or you'll never make any money.

      TL
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      • Profile picture of the author ScamFreeSuccess
        Hey TL thanks for some refreshingly simple but effective advice. With marketing in general (not just on the Net) sometimes we fail because we keep trying too many things. Offline or On choose two or three proven marketing methods, plan your attack and stick with them until they produce results. Flip flopping between too many only leads to frustration, time wasting and zero results.

        You are so right! Failing to plan is the same as planning to fail.
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        • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
          Originally Posted by ScamFreeSuccess View Post

          Hey TL thanks for some refreshingly simple but effective advice. With marketing in general (not just on the Net) sometimes we fail because we keep trying too many things. Offline or On choose two or three proven marketing methods, plan your attack and stick with them until they produce results. Flip flopping between too many only leads to frustration, time wasting and zero results.

          You are so right! Failing to plan is the same as planning to fail.

          We all need a road map to success.

          So take your planing to the next level by researching and selecting a net business model plan, gather the resources necessary, (free or pay for them) to conduct the plan and then get quite busy.

          Tip: It's much easier to obtain success when you're promoting to people that are not involved in promotions themselves.

          TL
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  • Profile picture of the author schumer182
    Thanks for the words of wisdom
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  • Profile picture of the author Charles Butler
    Vision without action is a daydream

    Action without vision is a nightmare
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      In addition to this thread, you've started the following threads with the same notes, just in the past month.

      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...hese-days.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ed-others.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ess-model.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-profits.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ess-model.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...confusion.html
      http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...lease-try.html

      This does not include the threads started by other people in which the phrase "net business model" figures prominently, even centrally, in your comments. Or the thread about the affiliate niche business model, which had some small variety.

      Congratulations on your election to the Presidency of the US Society for Repetitive Redundancies Club of America, Mr President.


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      • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        In addition to this thread, you've started the following threads with the same notes, just in the past month.

        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...hese-days.html
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ed-others.html
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ess-model.html
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...e-profits.html
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ess-model.html
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...confusion.html
        http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...lease-try.html

        This does not include the threads started by other people in which the phrase "net business model" figures prominently, even centrally, in your comments. Or the thread about the affiliate niche business model, which had some small variety.

        Congratulations on your election to the Presidency of the US Society for Repetitive Redundancies Club of America, Mr President.


        Paul
        As I reply to your comments, I'm listening to a song named "Welcome To The Club" by a soul group from the mid 70's named Blue Magic.

        I am also forced to think of President LBJ when he proclaimed...

        "I will not seek, nor will I accept my party's nomination for president of the U.S."

        From reading the posts and threads, I firmly believe the subject matter is of paramount importance to a large percentage of people at this forum but I'll also try to cover other areas of the online business world in the future with my threads.

        TL
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        • Profile picture of the author YseUp
          We'll even though I would still like to sell my own product I've decided that I'm going to start by doing affiliate marketing first to learn all the ropes. It's in a similar niche to my own product idea so I should be able to get some synergy going on later.

          Anyway, the niche I'm going to work has quite a big presence on the net and has quite a few products. But at least I know the people in this niche are spending money on the net. There will be one product in particular that I'm going to focus on initially.

          I've registered a domain which has called 'my niche'productsreviews.com
          and have installed wordpress.

          I'll drive traffic by putting articles on ezinearticles (I've written 2 so far)m by doing a squidoo lens and obviously the blog.

          The 'unique' thing I'll be doing is having short video reviews that automatically open up new window straight to the product sales page as described in another thread on this forum.

          But I'm a little confused as to how to actually set up the site.

          Should I have the blog as the landing page of the site and the video reviews on a different page? Or should I make sure that the users see the videos ASAP. Maybe have the video review(s) on the front page. This will all be done in wordpress so the side bar will be present if they want to read the blog.

          What do you guys think?
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    • Profile picture of the author dmarzean
      It boils down to this...

      If you were to go to a bank to obtain a small business loan you would need the following:

      A business plan
      A marketing Plan
      5 years worth of projections (a guess about how much you plan to make)

      I truly think that most people who decide to take the route of IM have good intentions of being successful. The problem lies in information overload for my guess is 90% of the people new to IM.

      I don't think it is a lack of drive or an inability to learn. But I do think that it is the lack of a solid plan.

      When people are new to something they want to learn and God knows that there are plenty of people willing to teach for the small price of $47.00. If people would take the materials and treat them as if they were in a university class, learn and implement, then draw out a business plan verses going about what they have learned haphazardly, they would see more success.

      If you do not have a plan you are not serious about building a business, you are involved in a hobby. Treat this as if you just went to the bank and acquired a small business loan that you will soon have to pay back.

      Separate your work area from your living area. Act like you are going to work each day when you sit down to work on your new business. Take it seriously.

      Something else that was mentioned about email. I have set up several email addresses for different purposes. The only one that I check while I am "working" is the one that has to do with my campaigns and current projects. Once my work is done for the day, then I will go see what the "gurus" are trying to sell me. This keeps me from being distracted while trying to take care of business.

      And stay out of the forums as well. When you are working on making money that is all you should be doing with your time. If you are getting distracted by email and forums, don't start complaining that you are not making any money.

      Put more time into building your business than you do anything else. Building a business takes discipline, focus and sacrifice.

      Doug
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  • Profile picture of the author Allen Lewis
    The reason why most people can't make a plan in Internet marketing is quite simple - lack of critical thinking skills. In school and at work, we are taught and conditioned to follow, avoid or blatantly break rules. When many of us are left to our own devices, we lose our discipline and self-control.

    Allen
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    • Profile picture of the author TLTheLiberator
      Originally Posted by Allen Lewis View Post

      The reason why most people can't make a plan in Internet marketing is quite simple - lack of critical thinking skills. In school and at work, we are taught and conditioned to follow, avoid or blatantly break rules. When many of us are left to our own devices, we lose our discipline and self-control.

      Allen
      I'm not sure what you mean.

      For online business and especially for newbies there are only a few online business options as outlined above that newbies should attempt to conduct.

      There are numerous step by step plans for all the basic models available.

      Too many people are getting basic net business models such as the CPA model mixed up and confused with all the different methods of getting visitors to their offers.

      Traffic generation is simply a part of the online business model - not the model itself and that's also where a lot of people get stuck.

      If a newbie simply buckled down and wouldn't do anything until they declared a net business model and then go about obtaining the info and tools they need to conduct the model, they will avoid tons of confusion and info-overload.

      TL
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
    This is a fantastic post.

    Mainly because its giving a way to the right direction of action!

    Most marketers are always saying 'Take Action!'. What some fail to realize is that people may know how to take action, but maybe not the Right action.

    And when they fail once, twice, three times, they give up. Not understanding how to take what didn't work in that plan, and make it better.
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