How To Become A $100,000 A Year Internet Marketer

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I've noticed a lot of guys on the forum asking how to make money online etc. etc.

I'd like to highlight 3 of the biggest differences that I've found between the guys who are making a killing online, and the guys who are scratching around like chickens.
These aren't hidden secrets that are new and previously unknown, but overlook them at your own peril.

1) $100k a year internet marketers test their campaigns. They never stop split testing their landing pages, their keywords, their copy writing etc. By doing this, they find out exactly what is working and then can focus 100% of their effort and cost on this and get rid of the stuff that is costing them money and not making them money.

2) $100k a year internet marketers pay for traffic. After split testing they know they have a winning forumla. All they need to do then is drive targeted traffic to it. This is where newbies often fall short. They try to get free traffic which is often junk and doesn't convert. They then lose hear and give up.

3)$100k a year internet marketers asked and paid for help. Some of them may have worked it out by themselves, but the majority of successful online marketers have paid for help and assistance to build their online business. If your goal was to become an accountant, you wouldn't try to do it for free by reading articles etc. You would pay someone to teach you. This is what just about every successful online marketer has done. They have treated their online business like a real business. They have paid to be mentored and shown step-by-step what they need to do to build an online business.
They will be members of paid forums or training groups where they can learn from the best. They also spend money on tools that help them build their business.


So in 2012 what kind of internet marketer are you going to be?
You can either test your campaigns, drive traffic to your winning campaigns, and pay for real help and mentoring, or you can keep scratching around trying to work it out by yourself.

My motto - "If someone shows you what to do, you can literally achieve anything online".
Just my 2 cents, that I hope can provide a little clarity to anyone struggling online.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dan Bainbridge
    Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing View Post

    I'd like to highlight 3 of the biggest differences that I've found between the guys who are making a killing online

    1) $100k a year internet marketers test their campaigns.
    2) $100k a year internet marketers pay for traffic.
    3)$100k a year internet marketers asked and paid for help.
    Interesting post, I agree with some, but not all:

    1. Absolutely yes. Test, test, TEST, tweak, and re-test.. forever.

    2. Not always.. some of the masterminds I've been to which contain "the top 20 affiliates".. they have been list owners, that is their traffic source, and they get their list primarily through other JVs and launches rather than ppc traffic... not always, but I've found this to be the norm, rather than to meet super affiliate ppc people..

    3. I've never paid for help, I would NEVER recommend ANYONE to pay for help. There is so much you can learn for free, and mostly if someone is really making a killing then they are should be too expensive... I'm not coaching anyone, not for ANY amount of money... it's not worth my time... and I'm not the biggest or best even... I just see these gurus and coaches offering their time and learning programs and often you are learning from someone who is actually quite small time themselves... there are exceptions, many, and this is a whole other thread / argument in itself, but I regularly recommend people NOT to buy ANYTHING..

    It is good to have guidance, but I worry that the people who are actually getting valuable guidance are those with friendships and existing relationships with people in the know rather than someone on the WF or elsewhere just buying some coaching off someone they don't know?
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    • Profile picture of the author Venturetothetop
      Originally Posted by Dan Bainbridge View Post

      3. I've never paid for help, I would NEVER recommend ANYONE to pay for help.
      Worst advice ever.

      Just one look at this forum clearly shows that people with zero knowledge on a subject are hashing together products and giving them away as 'reports'.

      Yes, some respected people give away stuff for 'free' occasionally, but if you want PERSONALISED good advice, then quite often you should be willing to pay for it.

      Information that is not tailored to you will lead to information overload and confusion, that is why paying for help, can be so valuable as it is PERSONALISED.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Bainbridge
        Originally Posted by Venturetothetop View Post

        Worst advice ever.
        Well, it worked for me at least, and I will probably be outspoken here on this issue I am sure lol... but I am probably the only one not trying to sell a beginners guide to IM or something.... I've got nothing to sell you, and it does upset me to see people buying guide, after guide, after guide, and wondering why it isn't working for them..

        The people I meet at networking events, I see them all the time - they've bought every product going and know / make nothing.

        The few people I am closer with who actually see results (do this full time and make between $50k-$million+), they often got there on their own, or just through networking and working with people later on rather than buying IM guides.. they just GOT TO WORK, producing content, benchmarking against others and being pro-active, rather than trying to learn and looking for the golden nugget to make them rich.

        I'm not saying all guides / help is useless, of course not, but imo it is not essential, and rather than starting to invest and buy guides and courses and this being the absolute correct path to success, in-fact I think it is more likely that you can get into a habit of buying, and reading, and not taking action, getting confused by different guides, or jumping ship from one method to the next without putting in the time to understand or master, or even see results from any of them
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        • Originally Posted by Michael Milken View Post

          I agree with you.
          Most people aren't because they're trying to sell mentoring/coaching programs or some sort of "how to make money" info. Coach = someone who couldn't cut it in business, so they make money as a coach.
          Yea, I definitely didn't mean that you should get coaching from these kind of guys. Unfortunately there are many 'fake it until you make it' kinda types in this industry.

          Instead I mean that you should get help/advice, and ideally coaching from guys who ARE actually making a full time living online.
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          • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
            Originally Posted by Mrexclusive View Post

            You don't always necessarily need to pay for traffic, for example you might have a site that ranks well and drives organic traffic, there are so many different ways to go about marketing online.
            Okay, you are getting your organic traffic.

            If you could keep that organic traffic AND get $5 back for every dollar spent on paid traffic (aka advertising), how many dollars would you invest?
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            • Originally Posted by JohnMcCabe View Post

              Okay, you are getting your organic traffic.

              If you could keep that organic traffic AND get $5 back for every dollar spent on paid traffic (aka advertising), how many dollars would you invest?
              Yea John, this is exactly what I was talking about as well. I think the average newbie would stick with the free traffic then, whereas the guy making 4 figures a day would then do the maths and drive targeted traffic to his offers and scale it up on a massive scale!

              Glad you also picked that up.
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    • Profile picture of the author Tom B
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      Originally Posted by Dan Bainbridge View Post

      Interesting post, I agree with some, but not all:


      2. Not always.. some of the masterminds I've been to which contain "the top 20 affiliates".. they have been list owners, that is their traffic source, and they get their list primarily through other JVs and launches rather than ppc traffic... not always, but I've found this to be the norm, rather than to meet super affiliate ppc people..
      Affiliate and JV traffic is paid traffic. You are just paying them when a sale takes place. You are still paying them.


      3. I've never paid for help, I would NEVER recommend ANYONE to pay for help. There is so much you can learn for free, and mostly if someone is really making a killing then they are should be too expensive... I'm not coaching anyone, not for ANY amount of money... it's not worth my time... and I'm not the biggest or best even... I just see these gurus and coaches offering their time and learning programs and often you are learning from someone who is actually quite small time themselves... there are exceptions, many, and this is a whole other thread / argument in itself, but I regularly recommend people NOT to buy ANYTHING..
      You never paid for graphics, copywriting, articles, etc... before?

      I paid for many courses and it has added to my income. The ROI has been very good. I am different then most though. I actually implement and test what I learn. Most do not and that is why most don't do make any money. For some reason, a lot of people put the blame on the teachers rather then the students. I guess it is easier that way.

      It is good to have guidance, but I worry that the people who are actually getting valuable guidance are those with friendships and existing relationships with people in the know rather than someone on the WF or elsewhere just buying some coaching off someone they don't know?
      Why would they purchase high priced coaching from someone they don't know? Sounds rather stupid to make an investment and not do any research.
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      • Profile picture of the author Dan Bainbridge
        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        Affiliate and JV traffic is paid traffic. You are just paying them when a sale takes place. You are still paying them.
        Different though, doesn't require money / investment up-front.. for me it can't fail, I can't lose money anyway I mean.

        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        You never paid for graphics, copywriting, articles, etc... before?
        Yes, of course, I pay for lots to be done for me, OUTSOURCING is essential. I just don't pay upfront for a coach / mentor to teach me IM.

        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        I actually implement and test what I learn. Most do not and that is why most don't do make any money. For some reason, a lot of people put the blame on the teachers rather then the students. I guess it is easier that way.
        I agree actually, people read and don't act and wonder why they don't profit... blame the guide.. actual learning comes from experience of doing it, failing, trying, tweaking, repeating, rather than just reading.

        Originally Posted by Thomas Belknap View Post

        Why would they purchase high priced coaching from someone they don't know? Sounds rather stupid to make an investment and not do any research.
        Lol, my thoughts exactly, I don't know, definition of insanity? But it is how our IM niche industry is run - people buy guides all the time online without knowing the owner, people attend seminars, IM events, experience the hype in the room and boom, purchase a $1000 IM training program on the spot - this is the sort of thing I really recommend against, not against learning in itself, of course not, but of buying IM product after IM product... I tell people that if you ever think to yourself "hmm, do I need to get this?" then NO, you definitely don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Riddell
    Hi,

    You have knocked it on the head.

    About five years ago one of my mentors tried to educate me with what you
    are mentioning through "Google Adwords" lessons.

    Split testing, CTR, landing pages, Google Analytics, Keyword research, Tracking etc

    I was not quite on the same wavelength as he was back then and dived in without looking. I ended up stepping back from Adwords, but soon realised the same concepts applied to other internet marketing areas.

    Will I make $100,000 this year? Possibly if I am also consistent, focussing on areas that are productive.



    Aaron Riddell
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  • Profile picture of the author dadamson
    Nice points.

    Again, I don't believe you HAVE to ask for help or be mentored in this industry.

    Basically everything you can do can be learned online.

    Also, where is number 4???

    OUTSOURCE!!

    In order to succeed online and earn 100K+ each year you need to find winning formulas and outsource them in order to scale up and make a profit.

    Handling everything by yourself is a great way to ensure you don't get much done throughout your year.

    Cheers,
    Dave
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  • Profile picture of the author devonm
    I hadn't been paying for help. I have been learning on many forums. I don't want to pay if I don't have to. I have learned some good things over the last few days that I think THIS time is IT!
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  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Williams
    You don't always necessarily need to pay for traffic, for example you might have a site that ranks well and drives organic traffic, there are so many different ways to go about marketing online.
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    • Originally Posted by Mrexclusive View Post

      You don't always necessarily need to pay for traffic, for example you might have a site that ranks well and drives organic traffic, there are so many different ways to go about marketing online.
      You're right, but that's when the big boys scale it up and turn it into massive profits. If a site is getting good organic search traffic and is converting, they will then drive paid traffic to it as well and capitalize on those conversions.
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      • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
        Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing View Post

        You're right, but that's when the big boys scale it up and turn it into massive profits. If a site is getting good organic search traffic and is converting, they will then drive paid traffic to it as well and capitalize on those conversions.
        Yup they sure do squeeze it to It's maximum potential.

        PAID Traffic!! I know that's when I started to make a killing.!
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        • Originally Posted by Kal Sallam View Post

          Yup they sure do squeeze it to It's maximum potential.

          PAID Traffic!! I know that's when I started to make a killing.!
          Glad to hear it. My biggest goal for 2012 is to really put this theory into practice and focus on using paid traffic to scale up my winning campaigns.
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  • Profile picture of the author jgand
    Sometimes you need to pay for help, often this happens when you don't have enough time to devote to the things that can be done for little cost. Time is money to pay someone to help me save time is worth it. But everyone should have a good understanding of the industry they are in and what it takes to be a success. Accountability is key.
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    • Profile picture of the author keniskandar
      Top IMers have singleminded focus on their chosen path. Knowing what not to do is often more important than knowing what needs to be done.
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  • Profile picture of the author zamzung
    I agree with you... although I think there are free resources for a very valuable information... but on the other side, the best advices always have a price tag on it, because those know know "secrets" won't let it go for free...
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  • Profile picture of the author sal64
    Who wants to settle for $100k per year? Why take a pay cut...
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    • Originally Posted by sal64 View Post

      Who wants to settle for $100k per year? Why take a pay cut...
      Ha ha...love it.
      Maybe I should change the title to 6-Figures a year
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      • Profile picture of the author NaturalHealing
        I always wonder if the people selling all these programs really are making that much per year. If they are doing so well, why are they selling their skills for a pittance?

        I have never met so many con artists in business as I have in the SEO world. It is like walking through a minefield.
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  • Profile picture of the author philiptrav
    Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing View Post

    I've noticed a lot of guys on the forum asking how to make money online etc. etc.

    I'd like to highlight 3 of the biggest differences that I've found between the guys who are making a killing online, and the guys who are scratching around like chickens.
    These aren't hidden secrets that are new and previously unknown, but overlook them at your own peril.

    1) $100k a year internet marketers test their campaigns. They never stop split testing their landing pages, their keywords, their copy writing etc. By doing this, they find out exactly what is working and then can focus 100% of their effort and cost on this and get rid of the stuff that is costing them money and not making them money.

    2) $100k a year internet marketers pay for traffic. After split testing they know they have a winning forumla. All they need to do then is drive targeted traffic to it. This is where newbies often fall short. They try to get free traffic which is often junk and doesn't convert. They then lose hear and give up.

    3)$100k a year internet marketers asked and paid for help. Some of them may have worked it out by themselves, but the majority of successful online marketers have paid for help and assistance to build their online business. If your goal was to become an accountant, you wouldn't try to do it for free by reading articles etc. You would pay someone to teach you. This is what just about every successful online marketer has done. They have treated their online business like a real business. They have paid to be mentored and shown step-by-step what they need to do to build an online business.
    They will be members of paid forums or training groups where they can learn from the best. They also spend money on tools that help them build their business.


    So in 2012 what kind of internet marketer are you going to be?
    You can either test your campaigns, drive traffic to your winning campaigns, and pay for real help and mentoring, or you can keep scratching around trying to work it out by yourself.

    My motto - "If someone shows you what to do, you can literally achieve anything online".
    Just my 2 cents, that I hope can provide a little clarity to anyone struggling online.
    1, 2, 3./ WRONG - I made over $100k a year for 3 years straight and never once paid anyone for anything, I never paid for one click, I never had landing pages, never spent much time on keywords, copy writing etc... but I can see that this might be some good things to do for most marketers.
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    • Profile picture of the author faridaziz
      A $100,000-a-year internet marketer TEST every strategy, so he knows EXACTLY what works and what doesn't. He won't just 'follow' other so-called gurus...
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      • Profile picture of the author celente
        Originally Posted by faridaziz View Post

        A $100,000-a-year internet marketer TEST every strategy, so he knows EXACTLY what works and what doesn't. He won't just 'follow' other so-called gurus...
        This is true.

        When you find something taht works and makes you money do it again, and again and again. Too many times I see people go out there make some money and then they go out looking for the so called HOLY GRAIL.... only to find there really ISNT ONE.

        when you find something that works, that is your holy grail, just outsource it and upscale it to earn more.
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    • Profile picture of the author HairyPoppins
      Originally Posted by philiptrav View Post

      1, 2, 3./ WRONG - I made over $100k a year for 3 years straight and never once paid anyone for anything, I never paid for one click, I never had landing pages, never spent much time on keywords, copy writing etc... but I can see that this might be some good things to do for most marketers.


      There's obviously exceptions to every rule but 1-3 generally hold up. I would say more people making 100k a year fall into the category of those rules then those who don't.
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  • Profile picture of the author WarriorAva
    I didn't start making a lot of money (well a lot for me to start with) until I paid for help. There is nothing wrong for paying for help if it will help you.....remember TIME is MONEY.
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  • Originally Posted by TBInternetMarketing View Post

    1) $100k a year internet marketers test their campaigns.

    2) $100k a year internet marketers pay for traffic.

    3)$100k a year internet marketers asked and paid for help. You would pay someone to teach you. This is what just about every successful online marketer has done.
    Points #1 and #2 are correct. Point #3 is DEAD wrong. In fact, most of the big guys are self-made, not WSO-made.
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    • Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Points #1 and #2 are correct. Point #3 is DEAD wrong. In fact, most of the big guys are self-made, not WSO-made.
      Yea I know what you mean, but I should probably have clarified that I meant one-on-one coaching, rather than buying loads of cheap WSO's.

      I have nothing against WSO's, but what I meant was that a lot of guys really kick start their IM career, when they have someone showing and teaching them exactly what to do.

      Here is a cool post related to this. The guy mentions how he got some one-on-one coaching which really bumped his career up.
      I'm not saying you have to go with this guy, or spend $1,000 a month on coaching, but it's important not to try and do it alone.
      http://www.warriorforum.com/ad-netwo...hy-worked.html
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