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In defense of the OP, contrary to some veterans here suggesting, implying, psychic predictions, etc., LOL all the quoted statements, to me, suggest that this would be a good source for ideas and research info. And logic leads me to believe this is another potentially useful tool.
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I just find a problem, create a picture of what the perfect solution for them would be and then make it for them...
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Superb advice on this thread.
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What I do is buying Master Resale Rights eBook from eBay for very little money, let say 2-300 eBooks for $4-5 and then pick a niche and then adding more content to this niche making the eBook more appealing,complete and unique. Has worked for me really well.
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wow, nice technique thanks for the info!
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If you are using newsletters for doing research it is a great idea. Like the research coming to you and not you searching for the research. Many ghost writers use this technique to keep up on the lastest trends but...
Beware of spreading misinformation. You will find that just like all the forwards that scopes.com researches and explains as false.. they seem plausible and if you go no farther then the one referrence you could be helping spread falsehoods. I suggest "researching" your research once you are done with your ebook. Just go over the big points and double check with .gov .edu type sites.. and a quick visit to the library never hurts. (Yes libraries still exist) Personally I would rather take a little time to make sure I am not being an idiot then take the time to apologize for being one. |
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Hi Folks,
I use seperate email addresses for my "junk" email that I subscribe to. I look at the Subject lines to filter it, or to just get good headline ideas. Ideas from others is how we learn, it is not immoral, or anything like that. Did you use Books in school that you learned from? Did you re-invent the ABC's to get your message out without "copying" someone else? Com'on let's get real, our subconscious mind picks up ideas from everywhere that we think are our own ideas! Let's get past the "copy-cat" mentality. As long as you re-state an idea, in your own words, you will be doing very well for yourself online!! ![]() Jim ><> PS: Einestien once said, "If I have been able to see farther than others, it is only because I have been standing on the shoulders of the giants that came before me." |
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Good idea..I will keep in mind
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A lot of people said most newsletters are junk...I would say you are not subscribing to the right ones. Just try to focus on authority sites and you will always get great content.
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I really like this idea. Thanks for the tip
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Is it just me or is there a lot of one-liner crap posts going on in this thread?
It is rather hard to irritate me, but I am starting to get irritated. Your methods for looking up topics to write about are good methods, just remember they are only topics and you should always do your own well documented research when you create any written work. CYA (Cover Your A**) - James |
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Excellent insights and post.
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This is a good idea to get a scope of the marketplace. However, you still have to research the information. I'd say that if you notice a topic being covered in a lot of newsletters then it's a worthy ebook topic. Oh...and if you write an ebook based on newsletters...contact the publisher to see if they'll put an ad into their newsletter for your ebook ![]() Just some ideas, Brad Spencer | |
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A great idea ryanman! What you say is true for sure, you can gain heaps of resources for articles and ebooks through subscriptions to other web pages newsletters! Top post, and thank you very much!
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I despise this kind of thing. Not because you're taking other peoples work, but because you flood the market with this crap and then when people like me who have put hard work into a book have to try and tell people it's not just more crap.
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Interesting way to do research and gain knowledge. Then re-format and
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Nice step by step approach to quality product. Like it.
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I don't know why this thread got bumped - or why the double answer above.
I am concerned about some of the answers and ideas thrown about in a few posts. It's one thing to use emails for ideas on subjects or angles to write on but I'm seeing far too much CRAP masquerading as "articles", "reports", "guides", and "ebooks" these days. To write an article by only looking at articles others have written is regurgitation, not writing. There are REAL sources of information online to use for researching your subject. I tried to find some niche articles at EZA yesterday to add to a site (with proper author credit of course) - and could not find a single one that I would use. Poor grammar, worse spelling, trite phrases - and no real info or facts in any one of them. I agree that you can gain ideas and angles from GOOD newsletter content but fear some will interpret the OP as saying you can use that content for an ebook - good luck with that one. kay |
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I like the ideas here. I think I like the "combo" approach best : gather information and find out what questions the market wants answered through newsletters, yahoo answers, books.google, scribd, etc. - once you have a list of topics/questions, go to expertclick.com and interview some experts (or interview some other experts in your market) - BINGO! - instant credibility AND you'll have asked the questions your audience wants answered, so you should have a killer product that your market will be happy to buy! . . . and, if you've played your cards right, your interviewee will be glad to promote to their list/customers as well . . . another win.
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Guys...Once again let me make it absolutely clear that I am not referring to copying someone's newsletter content. I mentioned it just to point out a great resource for research.
Technically speaking...No one is really that original unless they came up with the idea themselves. Even greats such as tony robbins, eben pagan, jim rohn and other self-help guru's have their material based on age old concepts invented by someone else. I have read so many self-help books and have realized that a lot of them are based on the teachings of the bible. Now this does not mean they have plagiarized the bible. But they sure have referred to it as a great source for research. Ham burgers always existed but mc donalds made it extremely popular by adding their own touch to it with smart marketing. Now the owner of mc donalds didn't really invent the ham burger but he sure did use the recipe and added something of his own to make it unique. And now looking at internet marketing there were concepts invented by a few right at the beginning of this game and yes those concepts were original ideas but now almost everyone out there is using the same concepts with their own unique touch or twist. In fact none of us here would be making money if we were not using these online money making tricks invented by someone else. So I would say you can have a truck, car or a bike...They all run on wheels. The fact remains no matter what the body might look like...All these machines need wheels to run on. So the foundation is the same more or less. |
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We've all made a hamburger before, we've all experienced it.
Have you made $50,000? McDonalds didn't take the burger and call it a hotdog, they simply sell hamburgers. It's not unique, it's a crap burger, McDonalds became affiliated with the burger. Would you hire a teacher who has never taught before? Would you read a learner drivers book without ever driving and teach someone to drive? Would McDonalds teach a 5 Star restaurant how to cook a new 5 star recipe? Would you buy a book that the author has claimed to have made $50,000 with the technique this year but it's just some rehashed junk he found on the net? I can safely say a lot more people WOULD be making money if there was less of this crap and more quality products. |
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I think you have a good foundation, but as others have said you would have to formulate the book into your own words. But is a great way to have the research come directly to you.
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A burger is a burger, what you're doing is trying to sell mutton as lamb.
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Lots of good discussions in this thread!
In my opinion, getting ideas from newsletters, books, articles, other people, etc. to use in the pursuit of creating something unique is a worthwhile endevaour. Even if this is taking pre-existing content, putting your own spin on it, and re-marketing it. Never plagairize though unless giving proper credit - just an author's ethical code. |
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Many autoresponder newsletters are made up of PLR content, you do not have the worries of using PLR content on a live site due to the optin required. So take care and make sure that the content is changed enough to be considered original content before using.
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That was my point way back when this thread first started.. Many take it as they should just take and copy someone elses content and use it.. Personally I think this thread should just have been removed due to the title which is misleading for one and due to others misunderstanding the point of the post to begin with.. James | |
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Something so simple yet so brilliant, one of them ''why did I not think of that'' moments. I agree with most in doing research from these newsletters and rewriting it in your own words obviously, it may take some time sure but you could have a really content rich product from all the knowledge you will have gained which in turn could make you alot of $$$'s.
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As James (TheRichJerk) and Kay has said...do not just copy the contents of a newsletter and add it, for one thing many newsletters are copyrighted.
I think the original idea of this was a good one then somewhere it strayed off a little and some people got the wrong idea what the original poster was suggesting. |
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I couldn't agree with you more - I'll comment after providing my $0.02 on the OP There's an old expression in writing that goes ( :-) I'm hesitant to use in , but note its smiley captioned for the humor impaired :-) ) Copying from one person is called plagerism, copying from several is called research. also - Plagiarism is illegal, paraphrasing is not. Please note - I am not suggesting copying others work as your own is ok - IT IS NOT OK. But if you are not an expert in your field - reading/watching/interviewing other for research, and then putting in your thoughts/emotions/take on the matter is very much what a writer does. And a good writer will cite his reference material. If you don't know how to do that - grab a copy of Strunk's and White's The Elements of Style. In fact you as a writer you should have a dictionary, a thesaurus, and this style manual at your fingertips - and they should be dogged eared and tattered from constant use. Or for you younger folks I'm guessing their online equivalents should be in your bookmarks or favorites.... Next, you need to be careful of copyrights with PLR material - there have been several threads here about that, but if someone can't prove they have the legal right to provide the material - you're taking a risk. And the only legal proof is a certification from a governing body of copyright (The US Copyright office here in the United States). If you have someone write material for you - have them sign a contract. For two reasons: 1. To legally assign the copyright to you and away from them. This is called a Work for Hire arrangement. IANAL, but would suspect emails are not as legally binding as a contract. Remember, the person who creates a work is the copyright holder - and only they can convey their rights to others. 2. As part of the contract, make sure they assert they are the creators and have the right to give the rights to you. And that they did not plagiarize material, and that if it turns out they did, that they to be held accountable and pay all claims against you. Get a lawyer to write one for you or find one you can use (NOT plagiarize, see its gets kinda tedious to keep saying not to do something that common sense should tell you is wrong anyway, ugh...) And if you do create a book - spend the 35$ (in the US) to get it properly protected and register your copyright. See: U.S. Copyright Office - Online Services (eCO: Electronic Copyright Office) Hope this helps... Now, to all the one liners WTF people? What are you contributing here by this crap? From your post counts I'm going to just say its ignorance - no problem with that - but you need to learn. Please provide some feedback or help with your posts. If you just want to say "Great Post", then just click the thanks button. Does the same thing, but doesn't degrade the signal to noise ratio in the thread. And if you're doing it for other reasons - like inflating your post count - someone is going to ding you with that little infraction button. I was sooooo tempted to that myself, but hey - figured I give the following folks the benefit of a doubt and lean to you just not knowing any better. Folks who didn't get ding'd today are: obthno8 yaz8888 rayandlisaJ mr3army philbowman alancol Take heed folks - participate - don't pollute, or the infractions will start to pile up. And its not just one line posts we're complaining about here. Take a look at the one liners from JameSchramko and Richpeck, both one/two line, but they provided actionable information in that one line of information. So - if all you want to do is say "great post", hit the thanks button. otherwise, be quite. Or better yet - give us a detailed reply. peace, --Jack | |
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Outsourcing is the best way for lazy people like me :-) I can't imagine having to read all these newsletters in the mailbox.
But if you want to write your own, another way to do research is Amazon. Pick up a few bestsellers in your niche and read the preview content (ie: scanned pages). Most printed books have better quality than online content (sad but true), I must say. |
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James - I knew what you were saying so was trying to get this back on track. The hamburger is a pretty good comparison to me. You could wait in McDonald's drive thru for a tasteless burger that may be lukewarm . Or you could sit in comfortable chair at a friend's house and eat a quarter pound burger of ground sirloin cooked on a grill with fresh lettuce, home grown tomatoes and cheddar cheese on a bakery bun. Now - let me give you my research resource - the library! Most marketers don't think of going to the library but with current magazines and newspapers and all those books it's a great place for researching and writing. kay | |
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I guess there should be some research done before rehashing content. More like a wiki process..., Rehashing is nice as long as you are adding to the content and quality.
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I thought signing up to newletters was IM 101?
Its good for ideas, research, and current news, but wouldn't base an entire ebook on it. Quote:
McDonalds may not be BETTER than a burger at a resturant, but its FASTER and CHEAPER (normally). Thats part of marketing 101. Dominos did the same thing. There Pizza was crap when they first came out, but because of the quickness (30 mins or free) they were able to dominate the Pizza niche. Quote:
Unless some info marketer/reseachers can't get to a library or a book store (i prefer B&N) - they need to become aware of the invaluable resources availabe there. Most (if not all) niches in the book stores are proven or else they wouldn't be there. The easiest way to find a niche is to go the book store/library and look at books and magazines. It costs money to publish a real world magazine and book, so take advantage of it. And the "Dummies" books (about 20 niches and over 350 titles) wouldn't be on book shelves if there werent a market for them (hint). | ||
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The interviewee gets extra fame and publicity so they are more than happy to oblige. The reason many interviews don't get done is because no-one ever asks in the first place. If you become an expert on something, providing interviews is a super cool way to bring in brand new prospects. It truly is win, win, win. | |
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Many people who send out email newsletters in Non-Internet Marketing niches never think to put their newsletter online as content. Some of the time that makes sense, because of what the email is about...a sale, deadline, ect... However, lots of the content is essentially educational and therefore perfect for posting on the Internet. Here's how to monetize it: Step 1: Setup a fresh Gmail account for your niche. Step 2: Do a search in Google for "topic" newsletter or "topic" email news Step 3: Let the newsletter's pile up in that Gmail account. Step 4: After you have a few dozen of them, open them up and take a few sentences, highlight them, and do an exact search in Google for those phrases. I.E. "the quick brown fox jumped over the blue moon" This is going to quickly tell you if the newsletter publisher is putting there content online to be indexed by Google. Step 5: Take the newsletter's that HAVE NOT been indexed, and contact the author and ask them if they would mind you putting them on your website, provided you give them a link back to their site...DON'T SPAM THEM...actually send them a nice email and compliment them on their content. (Be honest, actually read some of the newsletters and make sure the person does provide good content!) Step 6: Setup a Wordpress Blog and enable the Email to Post feature. Step 7: Take those that said YES, and signup for the newsletter again, BUT use the Wordpress Email to Post email address as the signup address...and for the First Name, choose something generic. I.E. "Cat Lover" Step 8: Make sure to have the new posts come in DRAFT mode...so you can put the link you promised at the end of the newsletter, fix any formatting issues (HTML vs. Text) and also put links to your own products and offers within the body itself. Then you need to setup a publish date so the articles trickle in. That's it...you'd be amazed how many people just don't take the time to put their newsletter content online to be indexed. Time to make some money, Jack Duncan P.S. Make sure to save the emails from the authors in the event someone new takes over the business...keep an email trail. |
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Don't agree with ripping content from other sites, if you write content that is your own and you have researched the niche properly then you can relate better to the people who are purchasing your product which means you can offer better support by Phone/Emails/Forums. I spent 6 months writing my dieting guide and the hard work pays off when your customers are happy.
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Great suggestion! It certainly makes a good alternative to PLR products for sure and helps you generate new and exciting ideas all at the same time. Multi sources will help eliminate duplicate content as well and encourage you to do your own research methods as well, thank you for your post!
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Great idea, and it would certainly save you time in the long run for sure. But I think to make it work legitimately you would want to heavily rewrite your sources and make it your own to a certain extent, and eliminate any direct references! Good post!
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