Seriously Anyone still making a Full-Time Income with Article Marketing?

The old method of article marketing through syndication has worked extremely well for over 200 years. This is now the new, post-Panda or "rediscovered" method to make a fortune.

'Article Marketing', however you define it, does not exist in a vacuum. The folks doing well with it are also exercising additional skills, like knowing their audience, selecting the right products to create or promote, effective followup, etc.

That said, article marketing practiced as Alexa and Nicole describe it can be one of the most effective evergreen sources of highly targeted traffic still available to the average person.

Much like anything else, you need to adapt. If you find writing difficult then you may find this has changed quite a bit from the cut-n-pate method.

So, even if I know what I am doing, and my article marketing efforts are doing well, you can come along at any time and tell me it's a waste of time, which means... what exactly?

Absolutely, but the full leveraging power of syndication was actually first realized with the invention of the steam-operated printing press by German printer Friedrich Koenig in the 1800's. However, somehow this technique was lost by so many when article marketing became popularly relegated to creating backlinks by modern-day alchemy marketers; thinking they could turn google garbage into gold.

Okay, to take your response in context, please do start laughing..:rolleyes:

I am most certainly making a long-term, full-time living from high quality article (syndication) marketing, carried out in its true sense. I've been reaping the rich rewards from my writing for many years, and as many others here have found, the good old Panda update actually gave my business a very significant boost.

I agree with you, it is funny, and I'm laughing all the way to the bank..

Some have, in this thread alone. (Not to mention a few dozen others).

Well ...

In some respects.

People are still replying to threads without reading them, though: the New Year, apparently, hasn't changed that reality ...

Another one walking around with their eyes closed with a totally one dimensional view and inability to think outside of the box mentality.

....oh and an inability to actually read the thread because they're in such a hurry to post a comment. :rolleyes:

Well there are lots of successful ones here saying that what they do works, perhaps you're looking at the model most do, that barely worked anyway?

Correct.

Hi! How are you?

Some do have a copy archived somewhere on the web, which will be indexed by Google. But others don't ... and it's true you can't find them directly. (You sometimes can, eventually, only by getting replies from people on your list which mention "where they found you" - if you ask - but it's hardly reliable, of course).

No quick/easy answer to this, I'm afraid ... except that if you subscribe to the Directory Of Ezines, they may be listed there anyway ... :confused:

Maybe you should read some posts by the likes of Alexa or MYOB, and others too, on this subject. In fact, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if one of them replies to your post. I look forward to it...

As you can see from some of the comments above, it's possible to develop steadily increasing residual income through article marketing without using article directories at all.

Edited to add: posted at the same time as John, above ...

That little bolded bit is the most important part of that quote.

You need to read this thread so you can understand better what you can do with your articles. Your knowledge appears to be limited to directories only.

It's an excellent thread, one I'll be encouraging all people who think article marketing consists purely of 'submitting articles to lots of directories to get "quality" backlinks" to look at in future.

You're right; there are tons of other options other than article marketing. But, the article syndication model has been a goldmine for many of us, and increasingly so because of updates like Panda.

Good luck!

Never in question at all. Spinners don't know their "diddly" from their "piddly" (or so I'm told) ... :p

Nothing new about it: it's the original, old-fashioned, perpetual, tried and tested way.

"Article directory marketing" (trying to use article directories for their own traffic and/or their own backlinks) has come and now gone, in-between, but article marketing by syndication hasn't changed.


No; not at all.

"Via article directories" is just one small afterthought, really.

That's "passive syndication only", i.e. it's outside your control, once you've dumped a copy in EZA. There's no point in not doing it, and it can certainly be very successful sometimes, but it's typically slow-moving, unreliable and involves some luck, too. It would almost certainly be a big mistake to rely on it as one's sole form of syndication.

This is true - it helps that enormously, but it's far from my main reason for doing so.

Floods of targeted traffic!

The purpose of doing SEO is just to rank at the top of Google, isn't it?

Why do people want to rank at the top of Google? Because they think they'll get some traffic, that way, from people who were searching in Google for their keyword, some of whom will be "potential customers", some of whom will visit their site/blog, some of whom will eventually buy. So the purpose of SEO is to get traffic.

Article marketing is a way of getting targeted traffic (usually more targeted, and far more of it, too!) without needing to get it via Google and have your entire business being dependent on their very changeable algorithms.

I think so ... I suspect this is what you're missing: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5035794

It's exactly the same mechanism for getting traffic, really: you're getting something you've written posted on someone else's blog/site. They get content out of it and you get a link, which means you get some of their already-targeted traffic, and the chance to opt those people in to be on your list. So it builds your business.

"Duplicate content", to Google, means multiple copies of the same text-file within one domain. Explained here ... Article Marketers - Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All | Internet Marketing and Publishing

(And even when that happens, as Google specifically and openly explains on its WebMaster Central Blog, it doesn't penalize duplicate content, anyway: that's just a myth, repeated mostly by people selling spinning and/or auto-submission software/services, who want people to imagine that their products/services serve some "helpful purpose").

Google likes syndicated content: explained here - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5273419

And here - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5286678

I think "it depends how you look at it" is the best I can produce, there: I look at press releases as being something a little different. But I see there's perhaps some similarity of concept, yes. Article syndication and guest posting have more in common with press releases than they do with a cut-price night-flight to Lisbon ...

Almost entirely affiliate marketing, including some physical products. (I don't do CPA). I wouldn't hesitate to use exactly the same techniques for my own products, too, though. (If I had any!). It would make absolutely no difference, in principle, to the traffic-gathering methods whether what I'm promoting is an e-book written by someone else (on which I earn a 75% commission from ClickBank) or an e-book written by me (on which I'd perhaps earn a little more).

You must have done "new math", or something?

To me, it works out at 1.36 per day.

You actually worked it out for 1 year rather than for 3 years, I think?

That number includes a brief period of "higher-rate article production" from when I was (at first - unwisely) writing shorter articles, but for the last 2 years I've very rarely written more than 1 article per day, and over the last year, my current average is actually 25 articles per month.

You don't need large numbers of articles to attract floods of targeted traffic - even in some very competitive niches - by article marketing.

What matters is what you do with the articles and how widely you can get them syndicated, much more than how many of them there are.

One of the sad things, and slightly deceptive "learning difficulties", over article marketing, is that complete beginners will sometimes make the (maybe not unreasonable?) assumption that the people to emulate are the ones with the most experience, and that the ones with the most experiences are the ones who produce the highest numbers of articles. The reality is that nothing could be further from the truth.

We have nothing to learn from people who are submitting 10 articles per day to Ezine Articles. They're trying to use article directories for their own traffic and/or their own backlinks (:rolleyes. Almost inevitably, they're not making a living from it. They've misunderstood and/or failed to apply most of the points explained here: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ries-work.html

Exactly so. Their traffic is down, considerably, over the last year. So they're worth very little indeed to people who imagine that getting traffic from an article directory is a good thing (rather than the wasted opportunity and net loss it really is), and their backlinks have become greatly devalued. Though it's true that even before the Panda updates started, SEO textbook authors were rightly and accurately saying that one would typically need something between 50,000 and 100,000 of those backlinks to confer the same linkjuice as one backlink from a relevant authority site. Even now, many people just don't begin to appreciate the enormity of the difference in results between huge numbers of mass-submitted article directory backlinks (almost worthless, these days, and increasingly so, all the time) and small quantities of relevant, quality backlinks (can get you a very long way). Many (like a couple of people posting above, in this very thread) have come to the totally erroneous conclusion that "article marketing is dead", because they've tried only the first method (and that is more-or-less dead, sure enough).

I never quite know how to answer this!

For a loquacious, garrulous chick like me, the difficulty is getting it down to the 1,200-or-so words I want, not "finding enough to say". But this is an unhelpful observation.

What matters is that it needs to be written for syndication: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post3188316 (the whole thread is worth a read-through).

I think so. Low gravity, for me, though. I don't promote high gravity products.

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5009040

http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post2495251

Well, I've always briefly researched a group of long-tail keywords in selecting the niche, before I started. This isn't something that's by any stretch part of my daily or even weekly routine, at all.

When you get articles syndicated to decent quality, relevant sites, your off-page SEO, done by others, is going to be so good that you'll rank well enough. And for all the ezine syndication it doesn't make any difference what your keywords are, at all, because ezines are circulated to your targeted visitors by email anyway.

It's simple enough - it's just not easy. There's a learning curve, as with anything.

Well, it does for some, not for others. Unhelpful again, but true.

Not everyone will agree with me here, but I always think that if you can write the articles yourself, you should. For four main reasons ...

(i) It helps you to keep the same "voice" throughout everything you're presenting to people as "pre-selling material", i.e. articles, your own site, the "free report" (or whatever you call it) that you give people for the opt-in, and then the emails which actually do the main part of your promotions;

(ii) Outsourcing "articles for syndication" isn't easy, because the writers who routinely do these, and are really good at them, tend to be booked up for the reasons explained in the last paragraph of this post: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5368108

(iii) It's expensive, if you're using high quality, "tried and tested" writers;

(iv) Outsourcing is a skill-set all of its own, and the realities are that until you know, from some successful experience, exactly what you want to buy, it's pretty difficult to brief other writers accurately and productively on "how to write for you".

That said, the person in this forum who earns the most (I'm pretty sure), by quite some margin, from article syndication - and has been doing this for 5 times as long as I have - outsources all his articles. So it's certainly possible. (Mind you, with his volume of articles, and enormous number of different niches, I'm sure one person wouldn't be able to write them all. But anyway, he'd be the first to agree that even small numbers of articles can produce large incomes, because I've seen him say this, many times.)

The "article syndication" model is very well described here: Turn Words Into Traffic

And this is a tremendously valuable resource, listing the details of all the ezines to which you can syndicate articles: Directory of Ezines