Where are my backlinks? (Deleted?)

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12 years ago

Questions of that nature belong here:
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jvm127

12 years ago

Originally Posted by hustlinsmoke

He probably deleted it because your in the wrong place to post that. Also the rules state do not ask why.

Seriously? They just delete your stuff around here and you can't even ask for honest advice about how to avoid running into trouble in the future? Geez...you'd think Barack Obama was running this joint

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Geez...you'd think Barack Obama was running this joint

Political comments of any partisan stripe or variety are not allowed here.

Read the rules before you find yourself removed.
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12 years ago

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Post is in the wrong forum section? Deleted.

Don't like answering a post and having your helpful answers deleted, folks? Don't reply to posts in the wrong sections. Follow Istvan's example and give them the link to the right part of the forum for their questions.

Posted in the wrong place and don't like that we deleted it? Tough noogies, Pebbles. It's your question, and you benefit from the answers. Whose time should be spent making sure you're asking the people best equipped to answer it effectively? The moderators' or yours?

New, and didn't know any better? Your fault. It has always been customary for members new to any online group to read the rules before posting. It's not as though those stickies at the top of the main discussion section failed to mention this, in rather explicit and precise terms.

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12 years ago

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It certainly is my fault for posting in the wrong spot and not reading the rules but I do think it was sufficient to correct me and provide me with the correct place to post like the fine gentleman above did. Honest mistake and that's why I asked for guidance.

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Paul Myers

12 years ago

Originally Posted by jvm127

It certainly is my fault for posting in the wrong spot and not reading the rules but I do think it was sufficient to correct me and provide me with the correct place to post like the fine gentleman above did. Honest mistake and that's why I asked for guidance.

You really, really need to read the rules before posting again.

Paul

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tpw

12 years ago

Paul doesn't push ropes. He dangles them.

No one will tell you why a post was deleted, because there are thousands of posts per day being deleted.

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Paul Myers

12 years ago

Bill,

Paul doesn't push ropes. He dangles them.

Not quite accurate. I parcel out segments of rope. When the time comes that they've got all they're getting, people choose whether to use it to make a ladder or a noose.

I just honor their decision.

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MN Warrior

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Bill,Not quite accurate. I parcel out segments of rope. When the time comes that they've got all they're getting, people choose whether to use it to make a ladder or a noose.

I just honor their decision.

Paul

Warrior Forum should automatically alert people when their post was deleted.

This would remind them to read the rules (again, if they already did.) It would help clear up any confusion.

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Istvan Horvath

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

Warrior Forum should automatically alert people when their post was deleted.

This would remind them to read the rules (again, if they already did.) It would help clear up any confusion.

You are optimistic... It wouldn't help those that don't read the rules.
It would just prompt them to reply to the message, to start sending PMs to moderators asking 'explanation' etc.

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Mark Andrews Banned 12 years ago

Fella's...

Take it from me, don't argue your points with the moderators. They're busy enough as it is.

All of the forum rules are prominently on display. My suggestion... familiarize yourself with all of them before posting.

Unless it's escaped your notice, this forum is huge.

And the mods are busy.

They cannot and understandably will not pamper to your individual requests. Not when you're a newbie. If you don't like something, either live with it or find the exit.

This forum is a huge success. Obvious by the sheer numbers of people posting here from the 4 corners of the globe 24/7 non-stop.

It's patently obvious this forum cannot be adapted to the whim, likes or dislikes of every single poster, it is what it is in many respects. If something isn't broken, why fix it?

Sure, you might have your own idea/s what could be improved upon. Chances are though it's already been brought up before. Thought about. Made note of or discarded for one reason or another.

The onus is on you to appreciate the Warrior Forum for what it is and adapt your own behavior or posting style to the confines of these rules, which are here for the benefit of everyone.

Asking why a post or a thread has been deleted is not helpful. It happens to the best of us all the time. Just take it on the chin, learn from it and move on.

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George Wright

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

Warrior Forum should automatically alert people when their post was deleted.

This would remind them to read the rules (again, if they already did.) It would help clear up any confusion.

I'm working on a plugin for that. Subscribers will be notified whenever their post is deleted, moved or otherwise messed with.

The Public price will be only $10 per quarter. The Warrior Special Offer price will be $97.17 a month.

Infractions, bannings and warnings from Mods will be PMed to you as a bonus.

Very special bonus for the first 1,000 subscribers. I've hired Donald Trump or Paris Hilton (your choice) to come to your local Ihop, serve you breakfast and read/explain the WF rules to you in person.

Please do not PM me about this, when it is ready a presell ad will be posted on the main forum.

If you miss the main forum presell post please do not fret, I'm harvesting all members' IDs as we speak and will be sending out a mass PM to all 400,000 members upon WSO launch.

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MN Warrior

12 years ago

Originally Posted by George Wright

I'm working on a plugin for that. Subscribers will be notified whenever their post is deleted, moved or otherwise messed with.

The Public price will be only $10 per quarter. The Warrior Special Offer price will be $97.17 a month.

Infractions, bannings and warnings from Mods will be PMed to you as a bonus.

Very special bonus for the first 1,000 subscribers. I've hired Donald Trump or Paris Hilton (your choice) to come to your local Ihop, serve you breakfast and read/explain the WF rules to you in person.

Please do not PM me about this, when it is ready a presell ad will be posted on the main forum.

If you miss the main forum presell post please do not fret, I'm harvesting all members' IDs as we speak and will be sending out a mass PM to all 400,000 members upon WSO launch.

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Cool story but unless this copy of the forum rules is out of date:
(I can't post links yet but it was found under the FAQ)

It mainly tells you in so many words not to be overly promotional on the Warrior Forum.

One thread I started which was deleted was titled something like

Is PayDotCom the worst affiliate network?

In the description I complained that it was not user friendly, there seemed to be more products than ClickBank with "get rich quick" themes and that sort of thing. It was not a rant.

I wanted to know if anyone else had similar opinions and experiences with it, or if they had any positive things to share about it. Such a thread is not brilliant but very few threads and posts are.

The feature which I described which could be helpful wouldn't have enough lines of code to slow down the Warrior Forum... It would be helpful to be automatically alerted if a thread is deleted or moved so that we can email the mods about it if we want.

Go ahead and write another story if you want.

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Istvan Horvath 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

It would be helpful to be automatically alerted if a thread is deleted or moved so that we can email the mods about it if we want.

That's exactly the thing nobody wants: that the OP of any deleted thread starts emailing/messaging the mods. If they want...

With tens (if not hundreds) of posts deleted daily [most of them spam, of course] nobody would ever want to be a mod and getting crazy emails demanding "explanation" why a post/thread was deleted.
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tpw

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

Such a thread is not brilliant but very few threads and posts are.

Many of my threads are stunningly brilliant... And they get deleted anyway...

So, if you want to see brilliance in action, read my threads before they get nuked!!

My threads will make you laugh, cry, think or explode in rage!!

The stronger your reaction, the more brilliant the delivery...

But you don't hear me whining about having hundreds of threads deleted, do you? :p

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MN Warrior

12 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

Many of my threads are stunningly brilliant... And they get deleted anyway...

So, if you want to see brilliance in action, read my threads before they get nuked!!

My threads will make you laugh, cry, think or explode in rage!!

The stronger your reaction, the more brilliant the delivery...

But you don't hear me whining about having hundreds of threads deleted, do you? :p

Its too easy to dismiss people as whiners. I was pointing out an obvious problem, and that would be tons threads / posts being deleted which don't necessarily break the rules and could be relevant. (it varies)

Of course its not the worst thing in the world but the idea I described could work for members who have been able to stay members rather than the short lived spammers who are probably not members for very long.

An additional set of options could be added "overly promotional" , "repeat post" , "overly general question" , "chat" , but that could add another few seconds (no sarcasm intended at all) to each deleted post or thread which could add significant minutes to a moderators job each day (depending on how quick the mod's thought processes were)

If you truly do write a lot of brilliant threads and posts which get deleted, I would hope that you archive such material on your own websites.

Do you have any idea why much of your content gets deleted, if that is the case...
(flaming ?)

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Paul Myers

12 years ago

I was pointing out an obvious problem

Correction: You were pointing out a practice that varies from your personal preference. The "obviousness" or "problematic nature" of that practice is purely in your own head.

It's not going to happen, for reasons that have been explained to you. I suggest that your own argumentative approach to the issue should suffice to demonstrate the why of the thing. Consider how much time we'd waste having the same arguments with everyone who thought as you do, every day, all year long.

Nope. Not my idea of a productive use of time.

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MN Warrior

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Correction: You were pointing out a practice that varies from your personal preference. The "obviousness" or "problematic nature" of that practice is purely in your own head.

It's not going to happen, for reasons that have been explained to you. I suggest that your own argumentative approach to the issue should suffice to demonstrate the why of the thing. Consider how much time we'd waste having the same arguments with everyone who thought as you do, every day, all year long.

Nope. Not my idea of a productive use of time.

Paul

True, it was based on my own experience. I gave one example of a thread which seemed like it should not have been deleted ("paydotcom - worst affiliate network?") there are a couple of more examples like that, can't think of what they are, doesn't matter.

I did add an idea to the idea however (only have such a feature apply to members who have been on the forum for a significant amount of time) because of someone's post was deleted for spam, they're the ones who probably deserve to waste time in the first place since they add no value and they're just parasites.

If the Warrior Forum mods delete people's content more often than most other forums, I think its possible this has made it more successful.

My complaint is a common one, and it is valid (I'm not unique, not a troll or a spammer either.) However its probably similar to people who have a problem with employers doing credit checks as part of the screening process for hiring.

Two sides of that argument -

"People with bad credit are more likely to be irresponsible, and credit checks have been proven to hire better candidates."

"People will have to wait even longer and go under even more stress to pay the companies that they owe, possibly causing more homelessness and other economic problems."

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bretski

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

My complaint is a common one, and it is valid (I'm not unique, not a troll or a spammer either.) However its probably similar to people who have a problem with employers doing credit checks as part of the screening process for hiring.

Meh... not really. I would look at it like you coming to a party at my house with some friend of yours and you prop your feet up on the coffee table and start spouting off about how much something sucks. Then you go outside and start firing rounds from your .357 into the woods behind my house.

I'm going to ask you to knock it off and if you don't, I'll ask you to leave or forcibly have you removed while you kick and shout about how you always prop your feet up on your coffee table at home and that it isn't unusual.

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tpw

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

If you truly do write a lot of brilliant threads and posts which get deleted, I would hope that you archive such material on your own websites.

Do you have any idea why much of your content gets deleted, if that is the case...
(flaming ?)

I do archive everything I create here on my desktop. The content is not lost, only set aside for another day.

Yes, my threads and posts get nuked regularly... Ask anyone who has been here any length of time...

Do I know why? Generally. And it is not for flaming for sure.

Paul knows.... :p He is frequently the one stepping on the delete button.

Regardless, it is not a big deal. It just goes with the territory.

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George Wright 12 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

But you don't hear me whining about having hundreds of threads deleted, do you? :p

Blll I don't recall Ever having any of my posts deleted...

Just one more benefit of a bad memory.

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bretski

12 years ago

Originally Posted by tpw

Many of my threads are stunningly brilliant... And they get deleted anyway...

So, if you want to see brilliance in action, read my threads before they get nuked!!

My threads will make you laugh, cry, think or explode in rage!!

The stronger your reaction, the more brilliant the delivery...

But you don't hear me whining about having hundreds of threads deleted, do you? :p

Sooooo.... all your good stuff gets nuked?

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sbucciarel

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

Warrior Forum should automatically alert people when their post was deleted.

This would remind them to read the rules (again, if they already did.) It would help clear up any confusion.

Are you willing to pay for babysitting fees? They are not getting paid to pm thousands of people that it would be a good idea to post in the right section and to read the forum rules.

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tpw

12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

Warrior Forum should automatically alert people when their post was deleted.

This would remind them to read the rules (again, if they already did.) It would help clear up any confusion.

Originally Posted by tpw

No one will tell you why a post was deleted, because there are thousands of posts per day being deleted.

Bolded for your consideration.

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DianaHeuser

12 years ago

Ooooh I want that George.

Put me on the list

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Troy_Phillips

12 years ago

Most who have been on here for any time have had a post or thread deleted. Oh well ... life goes on.

To post in the wrong board, gripe about a thread being deleted, and get all political in one thread makes me wonder why you chickened out on the religious barb.

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stevetucker30

12 years ago

May be you have done some wrong. Read the instructions before go ahead.

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Paul Myers

12 years ago

"paydotcom - worst affiliate network?"

Read the rules and it will be obvious why that was deleted.

Paul

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MN Warrior

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

Read the rules and it will be obvious why that was deleted.

Paul

I re read the forum rules and this is probably the only possible match:

If you want to promote an affiliate program do it on your own domain. Your own web site. Not a "pre-made" web site. Your own web site, a real one. Then put THAT web site in your sig file.

I wanted to know what people's experience was with it. Did you perceive it as a promotion?? Because that is a pretty major affiliate network. If any mention of an affiliate network is considered a promotion, then maybe it should state that clearly.

I can't prove that I don't have connections with the PayDotCom affiliate program so I suppose that I could have been subtly promoting it, as this is probably true of anyone who mentions an affiliate network.

Half of the people who use the Warrior Forum could be working for ClickBank, Commission Junction, Share A Sale, and now I slipped up as an undercover worker for PayDotCom.

For the next affiliate network I go to work for , I'll have to be more careful.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

I re read the forum rules and this is probably the only possible match:

If you want to promote an affiliate program do it on your own domain. Your own web site. Not a "pre-made" web site. Your own web site, a real one. Then put THAT web site in your sig file.

I wanted to know what people's experience was with it. Did you perceive it as a promotion?? Because that is a pretty major affiliate network. If any mention of an affiliate network is considered a promotion, then maybe it should state that clearly.

I can't prove that I don't have connections with the PayDotCom affiliate program so I suppose that I could have been subtly promoting it, as this is probably true of anyone who mentions an affiliate network.

Half of the people who use the Warrior Forum could be working for ClickBank, Commission Junction, Share A Sale, and now I slipped up as an undercover worker for PayDotCom.

For the next affiliate network I go to work for , I'll have to be more careful.

Nope.

Read the first rule, the number one rule, the one that was right in your face but you must have skimmed over.

I think you're going off in another direction to what Paul mentioned.

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MN Warrior

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Nope.

Read the first rule, the number one rule, the one that was right in your face but you must have skimmed over.

I think you're going off in another direction to what Paul mentioned.

I did read that
Rule #1

If you have a problem with another Warrior, a Guru, or God, take it up with them directly. Not here. No exceptions.

You must have skimmed over the fact that the purpose of the thread was to see if anyone had any positive experiences with it, or if they agreed that their products don't seem to be worth promoting.

It was not a rant.

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

I did read that
Rule #1

If you have a problem with another Warrior, a Guru, or God, take it up with them directly. Not here. No exceptions.

You must have skimmed over the fact that the purpose of the thread was to see if anyone had any positive experiences with it, or if they agreed that their products don't seem to be worth promoting.

Not at all. I never skim any posts. Let me explain why I pointed out the #1 rule for you, so you can better understand my train of thoughts.

You:

"paydotcom - worst affiliate network?"

Paul:

Read the rules and it will be obvious why that was deleted.

You:

I re read the forum rules and this is probably the only possible match:

If you want to promote an affiliate program do it on your own domain. Your own web site. Not a "pre-made" web site. Your own web site, a real one. Then put THAT web site in your sig file.

Me:
As above.

I was merely responding to your "only possible match" for what Paul meant. I was just helping you understand what he meant.

I don't think you are on a rant either, you've been here 72 hours, I can't see what you'd have to rant about yet.

the purpose of the thread was to see if anyone had any positive experiences with it, or if they agreed that their products don't seem to be worth promoting.

Of course but that thread has been deleted and this thread isn't about that.

You could also argue that starting a thread off with "paydotcom - worst affiliate network?" is unlikely to be seen by the mods as a thread with the aim being, as you said.... "the purpose of the thread was to see if anyone had any positive experiences with it".

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MN Warrior

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Richard Van

Not at all. I never skim any posts. Let me explain why I pointed out the #1 rule for you, so you can better understand my train of thoughts.

You:
Paul:
You:
Me:
As above.

I was merely responding to your "only possible match" for what Paul meant. I was just helping you understand what he meant.

I don't think you are on a rant either, you've been here 72 hours, I can't see what you'd have to rant about yet.

Of course but that thread has been deleted and this thread isn't about that.

You could also argue that starting a thread off with "paydotcom - worst affiliate network?" is unlikely to be seen by the mods as a thread with the aim being, as you said.... "the purpose of the thread was to see if anyone had any positive experiences with it".

I said that in so many words inside of that thread. I was only using it as an example. It relates to the same topic as this thread (content getting deleted.) But it sort of went from being the OP's thread to mine.

I've seen people write threads like "Stay away from such and such website!" while stating the reasons why inside. It wasn't just that they had a personal problem with that website themselves, but they were stating why other people could get used as well. My example is similar to that. Such a thread could be something to help others figure out which affiliate networks are worth joining.

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Richard Van 12 years ago

Originally Posted by MN Warrior

Such a thread could be something to help others figure out which affiliate networks are worth joining.

It could. Sadly though not everyone has the rest of the forums best interests at heart, some are just downright unscrupulous. On the face of it, it's a nice thought. The thing is, this forum has been here a long time, the mods have seen a great deal and it's from this that the rules have been shaped - for a reason.

You only have to look at the amount of people who try to get around the rules now, to realise that everything is open to abuse and having threads that discuss the benefits and non benefits of joining affiliate networks or anything else for that matter, would soon become one almighty train crash.

I appreciate where you're coming from but the way things run here, are run that way through many years of trial and error and realising how people act in a number of different situations. It's nothing personal, it's just the way it is and it's unlikely to change.

Anyway, it's nice to meet you and believe me we all get our threads and posts deleted, it's nothing personal and often nothing to do with you. There are 400,000 members here, just looking at the number of utter crap I report daily, I shudder to think what it must be like to moderate a place like this, without then having to explain every action.
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lgibbon

Banned 12 years ago

One things for sure,
The original thread wouldn't have attracted anywhere near the attention
that the re-posted version, that was sneaked in here has.
Kind of defeats the object really.

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