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Can someone explain this madness?

by pegasuso
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Hi,

I found this forum after doing some searches for a problem and finding other people who have asked similar, so I registered in order to participate.

I went to send a PM to the poster and get told I have to make 50 posts before I can send a PM. So I go to reply to his actual thread publicly and get told I need to have 20 posts before I can reply. So I go to make a post in the relevant section the post was in (internet-marketing-product-reviews-ratings) and get told I need to make 20 posts first for that category to be available

Maybe I am missing something but it seems to be a vicious circle! I have found the forum due to an issue that is being discussed and I cannot contribute, respond or message the people discussing the topic that has led me to find and join the forum?!?!

It would seem I need to log 20 random posts in the general section before I can make any use of the post that I am actually interested in. How does that make any sense? It will just lead to endless junk posts in order to get to 20 so you can actually participate in what you wanted and were looking for.

I had added the link to the forum post I was referring to here but on submitting this post, it again blocked me saying I need 15 posts to add a link (whichj is internal to another warrior post!) - this just gets more and more frustrating

For anyone that may be able to assist a new member who seems to be unable to do anything on this forum other than a general post with less than 20 posts, here was what I was trying to reply to in relation to the post I cannot tell you as I cannot post the link

The trick is to take ALL those newly made bookmarks, add them to a RSS feed, submit it to RSS aggregators, ping the links, etc...
... in fewer words, make sure they get indexed properly.
Hiya,

Being new to a lot of this, could someone explain in a little more detail. We use socialadr for our business and have found that while we have hundreds of bookmarks, not many get indexed. We have an rss feed on our website that feeds to an industry news RSS. Not quite sure how that relates to the suggestion above.

Sorry to sound stupid, I am just tasked with SEO but it is not my area of expertise so any further pointers would be much appreciated in achieving what was suggested above.

Thanks
Rich
#explain #madness
  • Profile picture of the author richardtj
    it's all set out to prevent spammers from simply creating a profile and posting once with a backlink in their profile. It's set at 20 posts, becuase spammers are least likely to want to post 20 off posts- bit weird to a seasoned SEO as the lower the outbound links, the more likely an outbound link from the site is to count in Google's eyes.... ho hum
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  • Profile picture of the author pegasuso
    it's all set out to prevent spammers
    Hi Richard,

    I can totally understand the logig of preventing spam but if it is preventing a new user being able to get anything from the forum, it also has the effect of stopping new people joining (or at least staying).

    I now have no way to speak or discuss on the point that led me here so now have to decide if I want to hang about making another 19 posts or go and see if I can find what I need elsewhere

    Surely the best method to stop the spammer is not to allow signature links until after 50 posts. Actually stopping someone sending a PM or making a post in another section seems mad to me and is only going to push new users away.

    Maybe an admin or someone can add a view?
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    • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
      Originally Posted by pegasuso View Post

      I can totally understand the logig of preventing spam but if it is preventing a new user being able to get anything from the forum
      If you're unable to post productively in the other sections of the board, you probably shouldn't be posting in the review section anyway.

      You can see the logic of that, too, right?
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    • Profile picture of the author Go4DBest
      Originally Posted by pegasuso View Post

      Hi Richard,

      I can totally understand the logig of preventing spam but if it is preventing a new user being able to get anything from the forum, it also has the effect of stopping new people joining (or at least staying).

      I now have no way to speak or discuss on the point that led me here so now have to decide if I want to hang about making another 19 posts or go and see if I can find what I need elsewhere

      Surely the best method to stop the spammer is not to allow signature links until after 50 posts. Actually stopping someone sending a PM or making a post in another section seems mad to me and is only going to push new users away.

      Maybe an admin or someone can add a view?
      I hear your pain. I understand your situation.

      But then this forum is already been for a while now and so far, the members have learned to understand the forum's rules.

      Normally, people are so obsessed with speed but let me tell you this, you will soon understand why they have these kind of rules. Obviously, I am new to this forum as well.

      Just join the discussion and at the same time absorb all the good information.

      Cheers,
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    • Profile picture of the author Trivium
      Originally Posted by pegasuso View Post

      Surely the best method to stop the spammer is not to allow signature links until after 50 posts. Actually stopping someone sending a PM or making a post in another section seems mad to me and is only going to push new users away.

      Maybe an admin or someone can add a view?
      While its true that this forums rather steep post count requirements might turn many new members off, it also ensures that only those who are really willing and committed to the community here get the rights and priviledges they deserve. Sure, getting 20 posts to reply to certain threads, or 50 posts to PM someone might be viewed as a task to most, but it really depends on how you approach it.

      Just from offering advice in sections of the forums related to my interests and experiences, and participating in discussion that caught my interest, I was able to get 50 posts within a day, and learn lots about the forum and its members in the process.

      That said, if you only wish to get the information you seek for your problem, and then not use the forum any further, it might just be easier to try look for it elsewhere. It all depends on how you want to use this forum and its community. And I'll tell you now, the people here are all very willing to help with problems people have, so I'd say getting the 20 posts could be considered a good investment

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    • Profile picture of the author WillR
      Originally Posted by pegasuso View Post

      Surely the best method to stop the spammer is not to allow signature links until after 50 posts. Actually stopping someone sending a PM or making a post in another section seems mad to me and is only going to push new users away.
      Damn, and I always thought the WF had no problem getting new users.

      As a regular user of the forum I would actually like to see some of the limits raised but that's a whole other story. I don't find the limits unreasonable at all. In fact if those limits were not in place the WF would probably be a very different place.
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  • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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    A vicious circle? Try contributing to the forum with some meaningful posts and before you know it, you'll have 20 meaningful posts. Or join the War Room and the limitations are removed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Claire Koch
      i was gonna say that .... the lady with the cigar is the best advicer here!

      Originally Posted by sbucciarel View Post

      A vicious circle? Try contributing to the forum with some meaningful posts and before you know it, you'll have 20 meaningful posts. Or join the War Room and the limitations are removed.
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    • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
      I can totally understand the logig of preventing spam but if it is preventing a new user being able to get anything from the forum, it also has the effect of stopping new people joining (or at least staying).
      There are downsides, to be sure. But the upsides outweigh them.

      The only section I'm aware of that requires 20 posts in order to comment is the reviews section. That was done to keep out specific types of digital cockroaches: affiliates posting fake reviews with links of their own, and electronic assassins who troll from one forum to another bashing people/products for imagined slights or because they're competition.

      The limit required to send PMs is for just one kind of virtual vermin: Spammers.

      Just as an FYI, I don't believe joining the War Room removes the 20 post minimum to comment in the reviews section.


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      • Profile picture of the author sbucciarel
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        Originally Posted by Paul Myers View Post

        Just as an FYI, I don't believe joining the War Room removes the 20 post minimum to comment in the reviews section.


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        Oh ... didn't know that. There's also a limit in the JV section, isn't there?

        At any rate, to the OP ... 20 meaningful posts is a no brainer. This forum has more than one interesting thread going on that you could learn from.
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        • Profile picture of the author Paul Myers
          Suzanne,
          There's also a limit in the JV section, isn't there?
          Now that you mention it, I believe you're right.

          Different problem, same solution.


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  • Profile picture of the author deefondee
    I agree with Suzanne...........just join the War Room and the limits are removed. And you will be enhanced by the War Room membership
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  • Profile picture of the author Fernando Veloso
    Sorry to sound stupid, I am just tasked with SEO but it is not my area of expertise so any further pointers would be much appreciated in achieving what was suggested above.
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