What you -don't- want to see in an ebook or report?

by InWait
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I'm seriously considering writing a report. It will probably take at least a couple of months. I'll decide later on whether or not it will be a WSO and if I'll use clickbank or possibly a kindle type thing. It's content will involve mindset and taking action. This report will probably be geared toward newer marketers and have a low price-at least until I get a good feel for what amount I should be asking.

What I want to ask is what types of things should I avoid including or doing? Is there something that writers commonly do that's particularly annoying or ineffective?
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  • Profile picture of the author mysterrio
    I dislike ebooks that are outdated and talk about the author. Reports should provide information of value.
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    • Profile picture of the author AndreasJacobsen
      Originally Posted by mysterrio View Post

      I dislike ebooks that are outdated and talk about the author. Reports should provide information of value.
      Agreed! value are of the essence in a report or ebook
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    • Originally Posted by mysterrio View Post

      I dislike ebooks that are outdated and talk about the author. Reports should provide information of value.
      Yea and no fluff. I'd rather read a 30 page report that is packed full of content, then a 100 page report that has long winded examples or stories just to fill up space.
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  • Profile picture of the author InWait
    Definitely a good point. Reminds me of a video I once watched. It was supposed to be informational but the speaker kept rambling on about nothing. I mean he really liked listening to himself talk.

    I guess I should add a couple of obvious ones just for the sake of doing it:

    Big blocks of text=bad
    Being vague or unclear=also bad
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Originally Posted by InWait View Post

    What I want to ask is what types of things should I avoid including or doing? Is there something that writers commonly do that's particularly annoying or ineffective?
    I dislike coffee stains in ebooks. LOL

    No, seriously, do not take it too serious.

    Just write up some stuff and publish it. As long as it is your stuff and not some kind of regurgitated stuff from somebody else, it should be fine.
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    • Profile picture of the author InWait
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      I dislike coffee stains in ebooks. LOL

      No, seriously, do not take it too serious.

      Just write up some stuff and publish it. As long as it is your stuff and not some kind of regurgitated stuff from somebody else, it should be fine.
      That just might be the best piece of advice that I can expect to receive in this thread. I have a tendency to be kind of OCD about making sure my projects are juuust right. Then I don't get anything done.
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      • Profile picture of the author Les Blythe
        I just finished a 130 page ebook/ guide and it took me 60 hours of hard work (lots of screen shots and diagrams). So I guess it worked out about 2 pages per hour. TIP: Use a bigger font say 18pt and 1.5 line spacing - gives you more pages more quickly and is easier to read! Just get it done and move on - don't procrastinate :-) Hope it helps
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        • Profile picture of the author Jon Patrick
          I wouldn't go up to 18pt, personally. That's huge. I use 14pt verdana, and that's actually pretty big. The line spacing, of course, is a must.

          OP, I agree with the others about just diving in and getting it done. That's exactly the approach I advise when I walk people through creating their own products. Of course you want to get it right, but don't let the pursuit of perfection derail your project's timely completion.
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      • Profile picture of the author JohnMcCabe
        Originally Posted by InWait View Post

        That just might be the best piece of advice that I can expect to receive in this thread. I have a tendency to be kind of OCD about making sure my projects are juuust right. Then I don't get anything done.
        Been there, done that, got the (perfectly folded) tee shirt...

        I once got a chance to explain my little neurosis to a successful writer, who admitted that it was a common affliction; how-to writers seemed particularly prone to the malady. He gave me the two words that got him past it, that work for me, and that I now pass on to you:

        Second Edition

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    • Profile picture of the author mysterrio
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      I dislike coffee stains in ebooks. LOL

      No, seriously, do not take it too serious.

      Just write up some stuff and publish it. As long as it is your stuff and not some kind of regurgitated stuff from somebody else, it should be fine.

      I agree...take some action. Also, I should say that it is okay to have some backstory if it is important. Like for me the fact that I am an entertainer and fell into marketing and had to learn it to book my shows...later came to love marketing and started with IM ETC.
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  • Profile picture of the author Big Al
    I once bought an ebook from a really good, popular marketer which had notes to his VA for editing left inside it... that ticked me off.

    I can handle spelling mistakes and grammatical errors (I'm buying for the content) but that was just sloppy. I think it even had duplicated chapters.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sharyn Sheldon
    Personally, I like something that is well organized and has a logical sequence. Make sure it is easy to see what is being covered in a table of contents and clear sections with sub-headers.

    No matter what the subject, I like to have very clear actionable tasks to complete. Even better, include any checklists, tools, worksheets, etc. that are helpful.

    Having a little backstory that gives you credibility is nice, but shouldn't go on for pages. That's just self-aggrandizing and annoying.

    What I hate: Paragraphs and paragraphs on end that aren't broken up. I just won't bother reading it if I don't know what's being covered. Then there's misspellings and slang everywhere. It's good to be personal and casual, but I read one report that used the word "gotta" in practically every paragraph. Drove me nuts, but then that may just be me.

    Just go outline your report and start writing. You can go back and edit later. As Bob Jenkins says, "Take Action, Revise Later".

    Good luck!
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    There are a couple of comments I've seen that I take issue with. First, I do agree you don't want to make this thing all about you.

    But for the topic you're going to have to talk about yourself to some degree. You're trying to come across as a motivational expert so it's impossible not to talk about some of your experiences. If you do it well you'll weave in little stories about how you came to realize how important mindset and the rest is. People learn better and relate better to short stories than just a bunch of dry narrative.

    Someone also suggested you use 18 point font. Ugh. That immediately smacks of the "fluff" or padding mentality. Most people see right through that and they often feel cheated.

    Pick a clean seriff font like Times New Roman and keep it at 12 or 13 point. I very much like New Century Schoolbook because it's already nice and readable at 12pt.

    One other thing. Don't refer to your work as an ebook. eBooks are considered cheap, a dime a dozen. They're all over the Internet for free. Call it a report or a guide or a program or a tutorial or whatever. Anything but an ebook. Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author InWait
    Good stuff here. I will keep these things in mind. I should be getting into the first phase of this thing soon.

    I expect this project to be time consuming. I also expect it to be a learning experience. So even if my first report turns out to be a dud I'm fine with it as long as I gain new knowledge out of it (though I may not feel that way a few months from now...). Then it will be a matter of reanalyzing and adjusting my methods.
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