The WF Got Me Super-Confused!

12 years ago

There is no "one size fits all" in IM. There are no guarantees. The basic arguments are clear and there are two sides to everything. I think the biggest mistake new marketers make is trying to find concrete answers to every question. Answers depend on personal experience and opinions - and at some point you have to create your own experience.

When the arguments go off track where people are trying to position themselves as an expert or prove only their way is right....it's time to list pros and cons and go the way you think best for YOU.

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ELK

12 years ago

Don't waste your time spinning crap. If you feel like you absolutely must rewrite it, then make an entirely different article. Use the information in a completely different format or from a different perspective. That way, you'll still get a human-written article that sounds like it makes sense.

I feel like I can tell pretty quickly if an article has been "spun", even if it's done by hand. Certain things just don't read well with word substitutions. If I can't tell what someone's real voice is behind the words and it seems dry or very generic, I'll lose interest anyway. And if it has the slightest tinge of "this doesn't feel right when I read it", I'm going to wonder why I'm wasting my time.

Make your articles *real* so people will read them all the way through. Spend your time making honest good ones or they really aren't worth writing in the first place.

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Kay King 12 years ago

Make your articles *real* so people will read them all the way through. Spend your time making honest good ones or they really aren't worth writing in the first place.

That's a point easily missed if you are focused on what others might do or the details of a method or process.

In the end - every word you write is for someone to READ. Does it provide value or not? Usually, that's not a hard question to answer.

Growing up, I had an Aunt who repeated herself in every conversation. For example, she would comment on what another woman was wearing....and comment and comment.

She looks good in that blue dress
That dress looks good on her
She's wearing a nice shade of blue
Do you like that blue dress
Blue is definitely her color

I was reminded of her years ago when the "spinning" debate was running hot. Would YOU want to listen to a conversation like that if you had a choice? I think my Aunt Ruby was an original "spinner".

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James.N

12 years ago

I think pre-panda article spinning could still work...kinda...but I never had tons of success. I've totally given up on it in the panda era. I'm totally focusing on quality content nowadays.

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nickhumph 12 years ago

I think the half that are saying not to spin are those who put value on good reading and/or are article writers

The other half who say yes are those who are building their businesses, getting ranked highly, etc

IMO
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- Alexa Smith Banned 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by nickhumph
  
  The other half who say yes are those who are building their businesses, getting ranked highly, etc
  
  Nah ... :p
  
  They're just people who misattribute causation.
  
  They do something and get a certain result, and they assume (mistakenly, in this case) that without having done the "something", they wouldn't have got the result. (And the result's typically not too good, anyway, but that's another matter altogether). This post might interest you: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5410377
  
  If a slow, careful read through each of the following two threads doesn't conclude your wondering about this subject, Dave, then you can't be helped on this subject. Not that there's any great disgrace in that: it's true of many people. Good luck!
  
  http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...-articles.html
  
  http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...necessary.html
  
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  DaveEksteen 12 years ago
  
  Thanks for everyone's input!
  
  I really don't like spinning articles, but I think that perhaps the best course of action would be to test and see what works and what doesn't
  
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  A. van Heerden 12 years ago
  
  So, my question is really what will be the best strategy to follow if you're ONLY interested in getting backlinks to your site:
  
  At the end of the day it all boils down to quality over quantity. A single link from an authority site for example will have much more value than thousand of low-quality links. Quality will always triumph. :-)
  
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Benjamin Ehinger

12 years ago

Originally Posted by DaveEksteen

To spin or not to spin...Article spinning got my head spinning! One half of the WF members say spin your articles and the other half say do NOT spin your articles.

Some say Google is penalizing (ignoring) duplicate content on the same domain while others say that the duplicate content penalty is spread across different domains.

Others talk about article syndication and I'm still not sure what syndication actually means? Is this where you create really good content, submit it to Ezine for example and hope and pray other people use (syndicate?) your content on their websites.

So, my question is really what will be the best strategy to follow if you're ONLY interested in getting backlinks to your site:

1) Create a good quality article and submit the same article to 100's of article directories? Does that count as article syndication?

2) Use human-spun articles that read really well and submit it to various directories?

3) Buy ultra-spun articles and submit to article directories?

Dave

If all you want is backlinks, then spinning will not matter one bit. You don't need it and you are 100% correct in your first question. The same article to different directories, blogs, and websites is article syndication.

However, it will be a moot point if SOPA goes through - http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...stop-sopa.html

Benjamin Ehinger

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Trevor

12 years ago

There are two types of article spinning, I guess:

1. Automated spinning done by pushing a button - this is not the way to go, for it's so simple. You cannot produce high-quality spun articles by pushing a button, it doesn't work like that, search engines got a lot better in distinguishing spun content of this kind.

2. Manual "nested" spinning - This is the right approach. I personally spin my articles on a paragraph, sentence and also word level to create great uniqueness. This way you can produce hundreds, or even thousands (depending on how many instances of every paragraph or sentence you include) of unique articles and then use submission tool(s) such as UAW, BMR or AMR to submit those spun articles.

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StevenJones

12 years ago

Use original and unique articles on your main/money site! When doing backlinks use spun articles, however unique is always a plus. But I can imagine you don't have the funds nor time to get these articles. So spinning your articles is a perfect solution to this. Just make sure that these spun articles have 60% or higher uniqueness.

So out of my experience I would say; spin your articles when building backlinks. It works for me!

Do note that what might work for someone, it does not have to work for you. I recommend you to do your own testing and make a decision based on your own experience.

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Eamon Diamond 12 years ago

I wouldn't sipn articles - but a lot of people here will tell you that it's
OK to do so.

Take Alexa's advice on this and read through her posts here on the warrior
and that should clarify what you need to do.
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YasirYar

12 years ago

I don't believe in sipping either. You are best off just using original content, or else completely rewriting it rather than just spinning it around to make it seem original.

When it comes to IM, you will hear two completely contrasting 'facts' - neither is ever right, neither is ever wrong. Just go with whatever makes more sense to you.

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