Warriors - offer more payment methods

I can't speak for everybody, but a lot of warriors myself included use the WSO board to test offers before launching them to the rest of the world... The money made from selling WSOs is only a fraction of what the rest of our businesses make and missing out on the odd discount sale isn't a big deal.

Now, if your livelihood depends on selling WSOs, the op has probably made a valid point.

I have made this same point in a thread some time ago, it falls on deaf ears, people get into a 'rut' and don't want to do anything but keep in it.

As a WSO seller myself I know that the majority of countries that are not supported by Paypal are not countries I want to be selling to anyway. There is usually a very good reason why Paypal does not allow those countries and it usually has something to do with a higher risk of scams and fraud originating from that country -- not something I want to deal with for the sake of a few missed sales.

If someone has been banned from Paypal then there is also usually a pretty good reason for that as well so once again, not the kind of people I am going to go out of my way to attract.

Thems the breaks.

I'll just say that you can't get a charge back on Moneybookers (Skrill), since you are first uploading money to your Skrill account and then sending it to a second party. I'll leave it at that since people act hostile for some reason.

You may still use your credit card in paying PayPal. There's an option of pay with paypal account and pay with credit card.

Isn't there an option where you can pay by PayPal without logging into your PayPal account, so it goes straight through Visa, Mastercard etc?

I actually tried a different payment solution before, 2Checkout, and unfortunately as soon as I switched over my sales dropped.

I let it run for a while, and the very day I switched back to PayPal my sales picked back up again to exactly where they were before. Nothing else had changed, only the payment processor.

The trouble seems to be that so many people in the world use PayPal, have an active account and / or know and trust the name. So when they see a lesser known processor they either don't trust it, or don't want to go through the trouble of filling in all their details in order to use it, as 2Checkout makes customers do.

In short, cart abandonment rates increase substantially.

So in my personal experience as a vendor, if you don't use PayPal you're actually leaving a lot more money on the table than you lose through the geographic and other restrictions that come along with it.

And unfortunately for folks here who can't buy through PayPal, on top of that most WSO vendors would not be able to properly track affiliate referrals and pay out commissions if an extra payment method beyond PP were available on an offer.

This is because with many of the most popular digital product delivery / affiliate tracking solutions you can have either PayPal OR 2Checkout OR "other", but not more than one at a time.

So I feel for you guys, but unfortunately it's not just a matter of sellers being obstinate and refusing to budge. Sometimes there are restrictions that are quite difficult to effectively work around.

For now, Paypal and credit card payments are the best methods for both parties to do some transactions. But I don't know if they can accept Alertpay (another legitimate processor) in the future?

I do agree. Pay pal is a head ache for us. They always take for ever. Also, they a very difficult to work with and can close down your account for any reason. Sadly, they provide EBAY's poor service. It really is the same company.

Problem with many of the new services. Governments love to shut them down and all your money is gone. Typically, they will find some old rule that is very arcane.