How To Find Hot Niches With Dead Simple Market Research

[Antilles]

Originally Posted by FrankHaywood

Yep, you could. In fact I thought better about using the PS3 in the domain in the video and I've just left the site alone. Normally I'd have something there by now.

I know this doesn't deter most affiliates though, and some will say it's key to their success. I know some people who've had cease and desist letters with claims of "passing off", but after they've transferred the domain to the trademark owner that's been the end of it.

I think it depends on the company. Personally I'm delighted to have people use similar sounding or worded domains to my own products in order to promote for me - publicity is PUBLICITY - but many companies aren't as clued up or as enlightened.

It's a risk you can choose to take if you want to, I've now chosen not to in the case of PS3, but there are others where I do use names that maybe I shouldn't, and they do perform well.

-Frank

Thanks for this Frank, it confirmed my suspicions about trademarks. Not to say that your method isn't still great because there are plenty of non-trademark keyword phrases I have still found which you could use in a domain name.

So thank you for this, your post is an invaluable resource and added to my favourites.

[karuna]

Thank you, Frank for making available this great info.

Here is my only problem with your method, and something that I have been following to make this method perfect. To do all the work - in keyword research, combining with available domain names, and then tweaking to get in #1 on Google, and then to finally link up as an affiliate with Amazon is not always the best choice. IMO, its like creating a gorgeous christmas tree, and then just sticking any old thing at the top of it.

You've done all the work, now why not convert it into decent paying commission? If one wants to spend hours researching optional affiliate companies - comparing their commissions, their cookies, their webpage layout for easy navigation, ect, then there is a lot more money to be made than from Amazon. However, if Amazon is the only place that offers the product, of course, one has no choice. At least for now - but new affiliate companies are popping up all the time - keep checking. Commission Junction is a great - wish they had even more affiliate stores, though.

Why I don't like Amazon - (unless one has a high ticket item, or a website with 200 pages.):

*24 hour cookie (I just signed up with a company selling the same item that offers a 60 day cookie)

*If you live in the US - no commission from sales from other countries.

*No commission from third party sales on their websites.

*Approx 6% commission - company I just signed up with pays 15% - same product.

It took me hours and hours of research (and feedback from some helpful warriors) - but in the end I got a whole lot smarter, and I have better affiliate companies now to draw from in the future.

_karuna

[meisters]

Thanks Frank. This is oustanding info you have there. Great Post Frank.

[Chris Hunter]

Originally Posted by karuna

Why I don't like Amazon - (unless one has a high ticket item, or a website with 200 pages.):

*24 hour cookie (I just signed up with a company selling the same item that offers a 60 day cookie)

*If you live in the US - no commission from sales from other countries.

*No commission from third party sales on their websites.

*Approx 6% commission - company I just signed up with pays 15% - same product.

It took me hours and hours of research (and feedback from some helpful warriors) - but in the end I got a whole lot smarter, and I have better affiliate companies now to draw from in the future.

_karuna

Karuna,

Great info. I didn't know that about Amazon's cookie. That kinda sucks, really.

[ecgjewel]

Thank you - great info - from another newbie.

[NBN]

Originally Posted by karuna

Thank you, Frank for making available this great info.

Here is my only problem with your method, and something that I have been following to make this method perfect. To do all the work - in keyword research, combining with available domain names, and then tweaking to get in #1 on Google, and then to finally link up as an affiliate with Amazon is not always the best choice. IMO, its like creating a gorgeous christmas tree, and then just sticking any old thing at the top of it.

You've done all the work, now why not convert it into decent paying commission? If one wants to spend hours researching optional affiliate companies - comparing their commissions, their cookies, their webpage layout for easy navigation, ect, then there is a lot more money to be made than from Amazon. However, if Amazon is the only place that offers the product, of course, one has no choice. At least for now - but new affiliate companies are popping up all the time - keep checking. Commission Junction is a great - wish they had even more affiliate stores, though.

Why I don't like Amazon - (unless one has a high ticket item, or a website with 200 pages.):

*24 hour cookie (I just signed up with a company selling the same item that offers a 60 day cookie)

*If you live in the US - no commission from sales from other countries.

*No commission from third party sales on their websites.

*Approx 6% commission - company I just signed up with pays 15% - same product.

It took me hours and hours of research (and feedback from some helpful warriors) - but in the end I got a whole lot smarter, and I have better affiliate companies now to draw from in the future.

_karuna

Yeah this doesn't sound that appealing, karuna can you help me simply understand ebay's aff program.

[NBN]

Thank you big time Frank, this will cut 6-9 mos off my learning curve!

[tanady]

Hi Frank,

Thanks for the info..
I heard about the google keyword tool before this..
but only today I tried it out...

Learn new thing again just by reading threads..


Regards,
Tanady

[James12C]

Thanks, Frank - You've joined up the dots. Great post.

[lokimotion]

Thanks Frank
Those few tips helped me uncover a swarm of new keywords for one of my campaigns. Its crazy how we sometimes miss the most obvious stuff.

[mogili]

Valuable piece of information. Thanks.

[russmarsha]

Originally Posted by FrankHaywood

Yep, you could. In fact I thought better about using the PS3 in the domain in the video and I've just left the site alone. Normally I'd have something there by now.

I know this doesn't deter most affiliates though, and some will say it's key to their success. I know some people who've had cease and desist letters with claims of "passing off", but after they've transferred the domain to the trademark owner that's been the end of it.

I think it depends on the company. Personally I'm delighted to have people use similar sounding or worded domains to my own products in order to promote for me - publicity is PUBLICITY - but many companies aren't as clued up or as enlightened.

It's a risk you can choose to take if you want to, I've now chosen not to in the case of PS3, but there are others where I do use names that maybe I shouldn't, and they do perform well.

-Frank

Thanks for the great info Frank, I also wondered about this issue, so I went ahead and did a blog post on my blog using the keyword as the blog post title, we will see how it works for this niche.

Russ

[tshipp]

Great post! Best of all it was FREE. I've seen that link to the search tool every time I use Google keyword tool and never clicked it.

Thanks,
Tony

[Matthew Connors]

This is a great post. A Lot of detail.

Ive setup a great little squidoo lens that I refer my friends and lists to when they want to find a niche. Just so no one jumps down my throat for spam It does have an offer at the bottom. My intention for this post is to deliver the other free tools i use to this thread.

I use amazon hot products, ebay pulse, SEO chat, Google trends,, Microsoft adLabs, you tube which are all free.. Terapeak costs, but is unbeatable for eBay drop shippers.


http://www.squidoo.com/nicheproductideas

Even though Google Keyword tool is free people should note that the same tool when logged in delivers more specific and accurate information. So if you do have an adwords account log in, go into one of your campaigns, click on tools and then select search based keyword tool.

[tday01]

Thanks for the great information... much appreciated

[Antilles]

Hello again Frank. Just wondering, I was re-reading this bit of your post:

But if your competition is general shopping sites like Amazon or Game or Play.com, then they're fairly easy to beat with a little bit of patience.

I'll explain how in a minute.

But I don't think you did.. at least I can't see where. I have a couple of niches I'm testing out and the competition is exactly that - retailer pages. Are these kind of pages easy enough to beat simply by putting a few keyword rich pages up? Or do you use any other methods to improve your rankings?

[jhongren]

Great info! Definitely worth printing it out!

Cheers,
John

[Fernando Veloso]

Add a bit of "allintitle" and have fun! Nice tip. Thanks.

[Ernie Booth]

Thanks for the info Frank as a newbee to this internet marketing business and being of the age where we used a phone pencil and paper to earn money in my time, its good to get good info to try out and hopefully earn from once again thanks

smiles and sales

Ernie Booth
cjs marketing .com

[Martin]

Thanks for posting that Frank,

top quality info and an object lesson in how to lay out what you want to convey in a step by step format!

I suspect 'someone' will 're-invent' that and have it in the market place in short order :-)

[Redsadie]

Thank you so much for this Frank.

As a relative 'noob' I am familiar with Google Adwords but like so many others here I never got around to clicking the new search based keyword tool link.

I have had a poke around though (as you do ) and if you click the little magnifying glass icon next to the very last drilled nich word you are looking for (the one where it shows you how much you pay per click) then it takes you to a page that I found quite interesting. If you scroll down it gives you a 'rising searches' list like this one

Rising searches
1 abba costumes + 150%
2 sailor costumes + 60%
3 halloween costumes + 60%
4 fancy dress Ireland +50%
5 80's fancy dress + 50%
halloween fancy dress + 40%


As you might guess, I searched in apparel, then clothing, then costumes and clicked on fancy dress costume which was the last niche keyword I could drill down to and it had a suggested bid of 0.27 (gbp).

I thought this was quite a good little extra, and if anyone has used it, I'd be interested to see what type of response they got

To our success

Sarah. x

[Hadrian]

Thanks for an excellent post Frank.

I too could not access the tool using IE, but found that using Firefox solved the problem.

Originally Posted by FrankHaywood

Okay, 2,900 searches a month. That's not brilliant but it's okay, certainly worth spending a couple of hours work on, and according to Google no-one is bidding on those keywords. Cool. No competition.

Following along with your video, and using "ps3 hdmi cable" as an exact match phrase, I found that there were about 20 adwords advertisers, so obviously the google data is a bit awry. But that finding is good, as another poster pointed out that really having no competition would suggest that there was no profit from bidding on a particular keyword.

The advertisers can also be seen in your video.

[Quentin]

Excellent Frank

You get my tick of approval and very good detailed presentation. While I have been teaching my students this you laid it out very clearly.

Kudos to you.

Q

[FranMurray]

Great Work and Awesome Video. I am in the middle of my Saturday Morning Experiment I do 2 a month. I start by reading something in this forum and run with it for the day (On the weekends I don't have my kids).

I am going to use this right now.

Yeah I know I have no life lol

Thanks
Fran

[Adaptive]

Rising searches
1 abba costumes + 150%
2 sailor costumes + 60%
3 halloween costumes + 60%
4 fancy dress Ireland +50%
5 80's fancy dress + 50%
halloween fancy dress + 40%

I wonder if the abba and 80's fancy dress searches are from the same group of people? Does anyone have a good rule of thumb about to eliminate potential duplicates like these?

Regards,
Allen

[bingbong]

great post!!! thanks. hopefully you show us how to make a presell website. Very helpful indeed.

[Redsadie]

Originally Posted by Adaptive

I wonder if the abba and 80's fancy dress searches are from the same group of people? Does anyone have a good rule of thumb about to eliminate potential duplicates like these?

Regards,
Allen

Hi Allen

I'm pretty sure Abba were 70's rather than 80's but in reply to your question about eliminating potential duplicates.......I'm sorry, I have no idea! It's just something I stumbled upon today when I was working through Franks suggestions and when I put in something of my own.

Sarah. x

[sajae102]

Yeah....I bookmarking this right now as I type this. Most people charge money for this info.

[Cashman]

Nice read Frank. Good info. I didn't know about that particular search tool.

Thanks.

[abo28]

Thank you for this post, Frank. I'll copy it on my computer and take the time to study it.

You learn something new every day...

[garyk1968]

Awesome Frank thanks for that really appreciate you sharing it.

[Rully]

sound like easy.but its really hard for me as a newbie.but i like that free tools from google

[shan05]

Thanks for this great post. Any tool that's free but just as useful is greatly appreciated

[zeurois]

Thanks for putting all these together Frank...

One thing though... a few months ago I stopped using G's keyword tool after I got on the first page for a keyword with 22k searches a month and received ... almost 0 traffic (actually about 5-6 uniques a day from that kw) so I'd say G's not really sharing any real info for free ...

Therefore, I'd like to add(and many others said this before on this forum): if you found a good kw that you want to compete for, you first need to test it via PPC and see the real traffic you could get, then move on to SEO and try to get on the first page.

Cheers

[soladollar]

Hey Frank, your methods are dead simple and very easy to follow... Like Michaelmac said, patience and due diligence is required... It has really been an eyeopener.

Superb post
Keep it up

soladollar.blogspot.com

[soladollar]

Nice post man, Its really insightful... It really makes niche research more fun... Thanks

[igorhelpsyousucceed]

Hey Frank,

this information is actually worth a lot of money.
This is what they teach at the StomperNet, stomping the
search engines course.

Igor

[DomiS]

Thanks a lot - we can learn everything we need to run a successful business on the Internet just by reading posts like yours.

[chakrur4i]

nice info dude, I chose anime niche myself reason? its just because I love animes sometimes choosing the niche you love heps you a lot too coz you love spending time to work on your niche when you love it.

[Harry Behrens]

Fantastic thread! People literally pay hundreds of dollars for LESS information than this (as long as it's over-packaged into hundreds of pages of screenshots and videos ) So truly, to give this away just to help other people on the forum out is commendable, my hat's off to you sir.

Also, I'm another that had seen that search tool link and never clicked on it... unbelievable!

[busybee]

Thanks Frank

Just what I need to know about accurate product research.

Busybee

[wordwizard]

Excellent thread. And down loadable PDF too! Thanks so much.

Elisabeth

[Domenick King]

Great post, loved the insight, very much appreciated.

Peace, Prosperity & Internet Marketing

[feixia913]

Such good information, thanks for sharing.

[2woody1]

The core problem is that Google search results for competition is sorely inaccurate and changes markedly from month to month.

Woody

[eaglechick]

You have just saved my life - I was struggling with keywords and I'm new. At this stage I cannot afford this fancy keyword tools.

THANK YOU : 1 345 667 778 TIMES!!!!

[williamh5001]

This is EXACTLY what I was looking for, thanks!

I would add myself to the list of users who said "Thank You", but I can't find how to do that. I almost clicked the "infraction" button, lol.

[Chris Parker]

Frank, thanks for your time and posting this useful article. It is much appreciated!

[drivedoctor]

Thanks Frank,

I really needed this info on how to dig down to the products that people are actually spending money on and how to find the sub-niches with low competition.

Awesome!!!

[David Jay]

Thanks for sharing Frank.

Can anyone confirm whether Google results are more accurate if you are logged into your Adwords account?