Deep Social Integration - Why do such few marketing sites do it??

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We're developing a direct response marketing website with video-based sales funnel and membership system - and it was clear to us from the beginning that we would integrate it deeply with social networks, especially facebook.

So our visitors will be able to singup/login with 20 different social networks and inside everything is customized based on their social graph and all kinds of plugins, such as commenting and reviews, allow our members to simultaneously publish what they write to one or more social networks and conversations taking place about us on social networking sites will automatically be brought back onto our site etc. The possibilities are quite amazing and seem extremely promising for leveraging traffic and activity through social and greatly increase our websites viral coefficient.

So...I keep being surprised that I don't seem to see any other warriors do really ANY social integration besides maybe a like or share button here and there.

Why is that?? :confused:

Are we missing something, or are you?

Very curious...

Michael
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  • Profile picture of the author Ord Allenbea
    Michael,
    I have a few sites that I have the ability to add facebook login / account creation but I opt-out of using it. It could just be my preference but I feel if the user takes the time to actually register then they will end up being more of a community member.

    This is a personal feeling and not fact so please do not take that as fact. I realize that it would be easy for others to join through just clicking a "login with facebook" button but I also realize your business should not rely upon 3rd party sites.

    What happens when facebook goes out of business ? What happens with these accounts because they are not registered in your system, they are connected by a 3rd party. I personally would never build my business to rely upon 3rd parties because there are far too many factors involved that could effect my business by doing so.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Solomon
    If you're building your business based on the possibility of facebook going out of business, you might be taking risk management an inch too far

    Joking aside, I completely agree with not creating any dependency on 3rd parties - and I don't see a need. Even if facebook were to go out of business, well, there's 19 options left

    While I agree with asking for some skin to become a member, we achieve the same by asking for added permissions and/or a like action - achieving the same goal, while we get so much MORE - such as immediate referral traffic in case of like action, being able to publish updates/special offers etc to our members fb walls (if that's the permission we ask), exposing our message in all their friend's feed and get not just name and email, but an enormous amount of data about our user that you can use for an endless amount of powerful things for your business - like populating much more meaningful member profiles, customizing any promotions to go out to only members likely to be interested it in it, customizing our members experience of our site and much more...
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    • Profile picture of the author Ord Allenbea
      Sounds very powerful what you are trying to accomplish. Why others do not do the deep social integration I can not answer, I can just give my opinion. When I go signup for sites that offer the "login with facebook" option, I do not use it and I create an account the normal way.

      There are those that I have talked to that have said they would rather keep their social profile separated from other sites which is why they do not use the login with facebook button.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Solomon
    It really is quite amazing what is starting to become possible...especially since facebook, over the last year or so, started shifting much of their strategy toward facilitating deep integration for websites. I'm sure there's much more to come in the near future and we're planning to stay at the cutting edge of it...

    Obviously there will always be a (substantial) part of visitors who prefer the regular signup (much also depending on the types of permission you ask for social login) - and they can. But a recent study has shown that over 70% of US user prefer social login over having to create yet another new account. The study only had 600 participants and I did not check into the specifics of the study to see if there was a bias, so it's nothing definite, but meaningful and tells us that a significant portion prefers it - and likely another meaningful percentage can be incentivized to either do it from the start, or connect their account with one or more social accounts at some point later...
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  • Profile picture of the author sethczerepak
    A lot of people still think building back links is more important, it'll probably take a massive Google update trashing their site to wake them up
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    • Profile picture of the author Ord Allenbea
      Building backlinks are still important regardless of how Google updates. Spamming sites left and right is not backlink building so I am not referring to this. Backlinks though are and always will be 1 part of Google's 200+ factors they use to rank a site.

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      A lot of people still think building back links is more important, it'll probably take a massive Google update trashing their site to wake them up
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  • Profile picture of the author Mary Wilhite
    Originally Posted by Michael Solomon View Post

    We're developing a direct response marketing website with video-based sales funnel and membership system - and it was clear to us from the beginning that we would integrate it deeply with social networks, especially facebook.

    So our visitors will be able to singup/login with 20 different social networks and inside everything is customized based on their social graph and all kinds of plugins, such as commenting and reviews, allow our members to simultaneously publish what they write to one or more social networks and conversations taking place about us on social networking sites will automatically be brought back onto our site etc. The possibilities are quite amazing and seem extremely promising for leveraging traffic and activity through social and greatly increase our websites viral coefficient.

    So...I keep being surprised that I don't seem to see any other warriors do really ANY social integration besides maybe a like or share button here and there.

    Why is that?? :confused:

    Are we missing something, or are you?

    Very curious...

    Michael
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    Hi,

    Whilst most of the sites we see out there would tell you they can integrate with any social media sites, I think WF should be kept this way (at least for now).

    With WF, you are dealing with people who have the same mind set == Internet marketing and if they "like" what you've said or commented, they will definitely show it with the number of followings....


    Just my thought...

    Mary
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Solomon
    Mary, your response sounds like you think I was asking why WF is not integrated with social networks - I meant to ask why such few marketing sites I see developed from members of this community/ in online direct response marketing do it...
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  • Profile picture of the author Sara Nightingale
    Wow, this is an amazingly good point, I don't know why more people don't do this. Keep us posted as to how the results turn out, I'm interested to know.
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  • Profile picture of the author Michael Solomon
    Sure Sara, happy to do that
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  • Profile picture of the author Kim Roach
    Hey Michael, you make some really great points!

    I think people actually would create a much deeper integration IF
    it was easier to setup. The "retweet", "like", and "share" buttons
    are plug-and-play - so they've had a much higher adoption.

    If it we're that easy to create deep integration across the board - I think
    a lot more website owners would do it.

    I'd love to hear more about how you go about integrating everything from
    a tech perspective

    Cheers,

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    • Profile picture of the author bgonmyown
      Re: FB logins - I'm still not comfortable when access to my friends is requested...
      That's why I don't do it.

      And very rarely when sharing an article, usually from nytimes and such.

      I can definitely relate to the desire to consolidate, but then why not just use a password manager? Maybe need to spread more awareness. I'm trying to keep social strictly social.
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