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Unread 4th Feb 2012, 04:16 AM   #51
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So what is worth to you, the website owner that wants valuable, quality, unique content?
$17.50 an article (3.5 cents a word) is about the cutoff for anyone that buys articles in bulk. If your articles are worth more than $17.50, you have three choices:

1. Sell them for $17.50 anyway.
2. Stop selling them and use them yourself.
3. Stop writing articles.

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I charge ten cents a word, but this is largely academic because I don't like writing for clients and will probably not write for you no matter what you're paying. If I personally know you, and you bring me an interesting topic, and I happen to have time on my hands, then I might write for you. But in general, I only write for myself.

As far as the average writer, anyone sufficiently fluent in the English language not to make spelling and grammar errors should be charging at least two cents a word ($10 a 500 word article), and if you can actually write something interesting you should be charging that $17.50 mentioned above.

But articles on the internet are not where any real writer makes their money. It's just where they meet the clients who recognise their talent and hire them to do other, more important, things that pay a lot higher rates.

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Unread 4th Feb 2012, 04:52 AM   #52
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An article is no different than any other commodity or product in the business to business market.

Basically it is worth what the buyer can create in profit from it.

Of course no-one pays what something is worth, there would be no profit in that!

If you can show that your article can generate $x profit for the buyer then your selling price is something under $x.

As in the above posts, people paying $5 for an article are expecting to make more than $5 from it. People paying $35 an article are expecting to make more than that. All that will depend in their own success, skill and system they are using the articles for.

How much would a good salespage cost you?
$500, $1000, $5000, More? After all is it not just a big article? It's worth is not defined by the number of words but by how much it will likley make.

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Most of the 500 word articles I read aren't worth sh*t
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$17.50 an article (3.5 cents a word) is about the cutoff for anyone that buys articles in bulk. If your articles are worth more than $17.50, you have three choices:

1. Sell them for $17.50 anyway.
2. Stop selling them and use them yourself.
3. Stop writing articles.
You are correct up to a point, but you missed out the most important choice:

4. Find a better buyer.

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you missed out the most important choice:

4. Find a better buyer.
This is very difficult in the bulk article world, because the people who need ENOUGH over-$17.50 articles to be worth pursuing also have enough writers that, statistically, several of them are worth more than they think... so the client gets better articles, but continues to pay $17.50 for them. And most of these clients are smart enough to rotate new writers into the pool continually, so they never have enough need for higher-priced articles.

Basically, the game changes over $17.50 and instead of finding clients who need enough articles, you're looking for enough clients who need articles. And once you're doing that, it's just a lot smarter to switch your focus and stop writing 500 word articles at all. Longer content becomes more lucrative much faster than it becomes more difficult.

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well that depend upon the quality of article. According to my experince, I used to submit articles to ezinearticles.com which only approve high quality articles. And That articles cost me $5 per 500 words.
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well that depend upon the quality of article. According to my experince, I used to submit articles to ezinearticles.com which only approve high quality articles. And That articles cost me $5 per 500 words.
The challenge with this discussion is that we all have a different opinion on the definition of "high-quality" articles.

I have to admit that I don't agree on your statement that EZA only approves articles of high quality.

They have a much higher standard then article's directories that have auto approval systems, but I have found a lot of articles there I wouldn't have submitted to my website.

Not even if they paid me to do so.

Let me ask you some questions according to your experience of submitting articles to EZA, that your outsourced for the price of $5.

1. Did those articles bring in some traffic to your site?
2. Did any website owners publish your articles on their website?
3. And finally and most important of all, if "yes" on question 1 or 2, did the traffic convert into sale or leads?

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I used to submit articles to ezinearticles.com which only approve high quality articles.
I don't agree with this at all: their database is full of dreadfully low quality articles which I wouldn't allow anywhere near any of my sites.

It's true that they're a little more rigorous in their acceptance criteria than most article directories are, and that there are plenty of terrible articles listed there which wouldn't necessarily be accepted under today's guidelines, but the average standard is still shockingly low. They've accepted and published many thousands of useless articles, even over the last few months.

Bear in mind that the "average EZA author" doesn't understand the difference between "article marketing" and "article directory marketing". Most of them are still trying to use EZA for a purpose totally different from the one for which it exists, understandably finding very little benefit in doing so, and wrongly assuming that that's because "article marketing doesn't really work any more" or even blaming Google's "Panda updates". :rolleyes: :p

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The most popular WSO keyword alert is PLR. Every day new PLR offers are made on the forum.

Some of the demand for PLR is just for SEO content. Not not all of it. Quality PLR writers do quite well. What they offer is not always just 500 articles, but sometimes much longer works.

Many PLR writers also limit the number that are sold. Real limits. I saw an email claiming only 1000 would be sold. What a hoot. Needless to say there have been more emails (guess it didn't sell out) and probably a few more for decades to come.

One reason quality PLR is popular is because it gives people something to sell. That is, something that can make money from.

Ultimately, that is what you are doing: making someone else money and the vehicle is what you are writing.

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Thank you again...this has helped me enormously! I started to research PLR and I got a WSO on it and it looks very interesting. I think I'm going to really focus in that arena..One question that is nagging me in the back of my mind however:

With the Panda updates and demand for quality original content, when you sell PLR to multiple webmasters and they place it on page won't google penalize them for using dupe content?

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when you sell PLR to multiple webmasters and they place it on page won't google penalize them for using dupe content?
No. That isn't "duplicate content". It's "syndicated content". Article Marketers - Lay the Duplicate Content Myth To Rest Once and For All | Internet Marketing and Publishing

In any case, the terms of sale of much PLR requires users to re-write it before publishing.

That has nothing at all to do with the Panda updates, Griffin.

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I have one great contact who writes 800 word articles/reviews for me for $5 but then that is because we have a long standing relationship and we always follow the same format.

I would say though that a fair price for a 500 word article which is unique and well researched is $8-10. If you are lucky you might find some great writers who will do the work for $5 but they are really selling themselves short.

Regular repeat business does change things though.

I would be very dubious about ordering any articles from someone at $1 for 500 words. Most likely expecting spun and crap articles.

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Caliban makes a great point, too, that most of earning an income online as a writer is about the contacts you make. Impress the right clients with your writing and they'll keep you very, very busy. Screw over the wrong people by providing them with poor quality, rehashed content, and you'll quickly find your schedule empty.

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I've dealt with a lot of writers, however, the only quality ones I have found typically are $10-$15 per 500 words.

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Many people are looking cheap writer based on price without caring too much about quality and that is the problem.
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Some people just don't get that when they pay for something, they may not get the quality that they think they should get for less. It's sad but it's true. Some people expect to get this GREAT article or sales copy written for them for dirt cheap... so guess what, when your article is dirt cheap in terms of content, now you wind up spending more to fix your problem.

I go through this same issue with my instrumentals. I get people that want to buy exclusive custom instrumentals from me but that want to pay under $10.00 as though I'm going to give that to them. So, they tend to find another place that may do it, but then they wind up complaining about how the quality is horrible, yadda yadda... same applies with most of these cheap article gigs.

The grammar is usually horrible, you have to go through extensive editing and rearranging and what not, so in the end, it costs you either more money for better ones, or costs you much more time to clean up someone's mess that you bought dirt cheap, thinking you'd get a great deal. Some people want WAYY too much for a buck or two, and then want to cry recession, like we NEED to accept whatever comes our way.

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At the beginning its really tough to get customers at a very good rate.. very few will come for $1/100 words..
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I feel like I've been beating my head against a wall lately, trying to make a living writing quality content for people all over the world.

It's not that the competition is fierce or there is a lack of work by any means, there is such a wild swing in pricing.

I see services offered as low as $1 or $2 for 500 words. I've bought a couple just to see what they look like and Jeeesus Christ, they are terrible. I mean ostentatious grammar mistakes, mixed up verbs and just a horrible level of piss poor content. I can't imagine any intelligent online marketer that would put that on their page.

Then you move up to the $5 for 500 words game, and the quality gets a little better but IMHO to write a good article it takes research, writing, formatting, editing, proofreading, proofreading, proofreading (I wrote that 3x on purpose) then finally submission to the client.

So what is worth to you, the website owner that wants valuable, quality, unique content?

And what is it worth to you, the writer that slaves in front of her laptop to passionately create an awesome article?

Please share your thoughts.....

If you hire me, it's 25 dollars.

A few of my beliefs...

1.) You're worth what you BELIEVE you're worth. NEVER undersell yourself. If you truly think you're worth charging 5, 10, 50 or a hundred bucks for an article, then do it.

It's your job to instil that same confidence in your clients.


2.) You get what you pay for. People (like me) are able to charge what we do, because we are great writers; that sounds bigheaded, sure, but not if I can back it up with proof. I've been charging my 'high' prices' for ages now, and had plenty of happy clients.

Put simply, if clients are willing to shell out a little more, they get superior quality.

Not to sound further bigheaded, but because of my skill, I'm asked not just to write articles, but to create books (ghostwrite, basically) for clients, and I have people very often asking me for JVs.


A lot of it comes down to skill. Most people think writing is easy. After all, if you know English, you can write...right?

Wrong.

There's writing, and there's writing.

If you can't do the latter, you'll plateau at a certain point, and charge only so much before it gets ridiculous.

That being said, what are you charging? I'd be interested to know.


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Hey Griffin, in my opinion trying to take the easy way out as an internet marketer is virtually impossible. Just like every other situation in life, the best results come from the hardest work. There's absolutely nothing wrong with a 500 word article but the best results come from dedicated keyword research and total knowledge of the desired niche. I hope this helps
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I charge $50 per 500-word article, and I simply laugh to myself when I hear someone balk at my rate as high. My clients are mainly Internet marketers, and they find my rate highly affordable for the value they receive.

Sure, some low-priced writers are diamonds in the rough. But soon they will start charging what they are worth, and you'll have to start the search all over again. Why not just invest in quality?

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I had one person that I gave a review copy to tell me in no uncertain terms that I would never get anyone to pay me $25 per 500 words in this economy. I am a registered nurse who focuses on the health niche, so I feel quite confident that I can command at least that much for my writing.

I replied that I actually usually charge my clients $50 per 500 words and choose to charge the reduced rate on this forum to pick up clients to "plug holes" in my schedule. It just made me laugh that he was so sure no one would pay for quality content because he wouldn't.

Quality articles pay for themselves. I have read some $5 articles, and they were nightmares. Unfortunately, I don't think this forum is really the place to find clients who pay the higher rates. I haven't been here too long, though, so maybe I am wrong. Most people here are business start-ups without the money to pay for quality writing. I find that established businesses pay the best.

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If you hire me, it's 25 dollars.

A few of my beliefs...

1.) You're worth what you BELIEVE you're worth. NEVER undersell yourself. If you truly think you're worth charging 5, 10, 50 or a hundred bucks for an article, then do it.

It's your job to instil that same confidence in your clients.


2.) You get what you pay for. People (like me) are able to charge what we do, because we are great writers; that sounds bigheaded, sure, but not if I can back it up with proof. I've been charging my 'high' prices' for ages now, and had plenty of happy clients.

Put simply, if clients are willing to shell out a little more, they get superior quality.

Not to sound further bigheaded, but because of my skill, I'm asked not just to write articles, but to create books (ghostwrite, basically) for clients, and I have people very often asking me for JVs.


A lot of it comes down to skill. Most people think writing is easy. After all, if you know English, you can write...right?

Wrong.

There's writing, and there's writing.

If you can't do the latter, you'll plateau at a certain point, and charge only so much before it gets ridiculous.

That being said, what are you charging? I'd be interested to know.


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It really depends on quality. The cheaperst you can find is around $2 but that`s the crappy ones ussually. The price goes up to $20+
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Honestly a 500 word article is worth $5 not more and not less. I pay $5 for high quality English articles with seo done on them Best of luck
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I had one person that I gave a review copy to tell me in no uncertain terms that I would never get anyone to pay me $25 per 500 words in this economy. I am a registered nurse who focuses on the health niche, so I feel quite confident that I can command at least that much for my writing.

I replied that I actually usually charge my clients $50 per 500 words and choose to charge the reduced rate on this forum to pick up clients to "plug holes" in my schedule. It just made me laugh that he was so sure no one would pay for quality content because he wouldn't.

Quality articles pay for themselves. I have read some $5 articles, and they were nightmares. Unfortunately, I don't think this forum is really the place to find clients who pay the higher rates. I haven't been here too long, though, so maybe I am wrong. Most people here are business start-ups without the money to pay for quality writing. I find that established businesses pay the best.

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Especially when you have a lot of knowledge in your specialty, they aren't just paying for your time. They are paying for your experience and knowledge. You have years of experience learning and dealing with the issues you are writing about and they are paying you for that as well as the time spent writing the article.

Now, I do order $5 articles from time to time, but I haven't come across one yet where I would put the writing directly on my site, that just isn't my style. I order $5 articles when I need to save time but can't afford to pay for a high quality article.

I take these articles and edit them. I rewrite sections. I add my own style. Basically, they are like more specialized PLR.

Too many people think in bulk. Why buy 3-4 crappy articles no one wants to read when you can buy 1 article that will actually draw people in and make them care about what you have to say?

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Dude, in my ft job we pay $40 per article. You are in wholesale, you need to go retail. Get on elance and get real clients.

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People who say you can't make real money writing articles are looking at things the wrong way. You choose the market you want to compete in. They sell purses at Walmart, but I don't see Gucci going out of business...
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You'd get better results if you wrote them yourself. Not hard to do.

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You have a very blinkered view, and I agree with Tiff above; it's a good thing my clients don't take your advice, but then, they wouldn't be my clients if they did.

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Honestly a 500 word article is worth $5 not more and not less.
Ok, if you say so. But in that case ...

Let's have a think about all the regularly returning clients of all the article-writers here who are writing for $100+ per article. (There are many!). Now, what is it, with those clients, do you think? :confused:

Are they all people who just don't know that an article can't be worth more than $5?

Are they all losing money, hand over fist, again and again, and still buying more of those articles that cost at least 20 times the price they could buy them for?

Or is it just possible that they may know something you don't?

Puzzling, isn't it? ...

The reality is that you're using the word "article" with a different meaning from many people in the thread, Michael: you're thinking of it as a 500-word chunk of keyword-rich text to which backlinks can be attached. If that works for you, then fine (though apparently it does for very, very few others, these days) ... but it has absolutely nothing to do with "article marketing" at all.

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I would actually be hyper embarrassed to publicly say what I was charging (1c per word)
My first article writing gig in the IM market was at 1.5 cents a word. There is no shame in charging insanely low rates to start. You should charge low rates to start. But don't be afraid to raise them, either.

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I like to see it in another way.

The question should rather be "What are your customers and potential customers worth to you?"

I assume that's ultimately what we write for, our website visitors?

I also suppose we have a goal and a purpose for our web site?

I assume that we want to create confidence with our clients and present ourselves as knowledgeable, and also being known as a webmaster who strives to help the reader to find answers to their questions, or to become more knowledgeable in the field.

I, myself, am a person who has English as my second language, and for that reason I had my focus on buying articles from others who are better writers than me.

My challenge has actually been to find someone to write articles that both captivate the reader and also teach the reader something new.

At least, I have not found someone in the price range of $3 - $ 5 per article that can do this.

Not that they necessarily are bad English writers, although there are plenty of those too.

No, the reason is probably that they are writing in all genres, and spend no time to put themselves into the subject.
They don't ask themselves what the potential reader wants to know before they start to write.
Naturally enough, when the payment is this small.

I can see clearly after reading several threads on this subject that I have to find writers who are experts in the field, and pay them what they are worth.
If the niche I've chosen not tolerates this cost, I have to drop that niche, and find another niche instead.

I also realize that I have to write more myself.
It is perhaps easier to get someone to review my material and correct it, to get a better flow, then to get someone to understand from the beginning what I really want to convey on my side and with my article.

I am after all the webmaster, and I know my purpose .
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You should charge low rates to start.
Sorry, I can not agree. Too many people make this mistake. Start out as you mean to go on, or as close to it as you can. There is no good reason why you should charge low rates to start with that I can think of.
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My challenge has actually been to find someone to write articles that both captivate the reader and also teach the reader something new.

... I have not found someone in the price range of $3 - $ 5 per article that can do this.

... the reason is probably that they are writing in all genres, and spend no time to put themselves into the subject.
Yes, I was there once too. When you accept low rates, you have to churn out the articles to make any money at all. This means you cannot devote the time necessary to write the kind of quality you mention. The writer may be capable of it, but spending three or four hours for just $5 return is not very profitable, so quality suffers.

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As is so often the case, Alexa is spot on. The question shouldn't be what an article is worth because we have no clear definition of what is meant by the term article.

When I talk about articles that I have sold for $1000 or more, I am talking about authoritative, educational, inspiring and sometimes amusing pieces of writing that my clients have been very happy to publish in their premium-priced offline journals.

I am not talking about a collection of hastily thrown together paragraphs that are more accurately defined as 'content' rather than articles.

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There is no good reason why you should charge low rates to start with that I can think of.
Would you recommend that someone just out of college ask for a six-figure salary immediately?

Talent is nothing. Experience is everything. If you want a lot of experience fast, work cheap.

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I think most people who pay $5 or less for their articles are mostly just looking for the keywords, for SEO purposes. There may be some people who think that they can get readable content for that price, but they're just mistaken. If you buy 20 articles at $2 an article from 5 different suppliers, that's 100 articles, which makes your total purchase $200. Out of those 100 articles, you might accidentally turn up 5 or 6 that are okay, but that's $200 you've spent on 5 articles that you could have paid less than $100 for if you were willing to actually pay $15+ for them up front.

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Talent is nothing. Experience is everything. If you want a lot of experience fast, work cheap.
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I don't think it's necessarily bad to work cheaply at first, work quickly, and take several months to build up a client portfolio before raising rates. It allows a writer to build credibility with clients, gain testimonials, etc. Sure, I don't recommend it long term, but it works decently well if you're just starting out.

It's only logical to charge higher rates once people see the value you offer. You may even get offered higher rates when people see the quality of your content. Once you've established yourself, both on the forum and financially, and you have a decent idea of what you're doing, how to write a proper marketing article, etc., it only makes sense to increase your rates - otherwise, your calendar will be booked out weeks in advance.

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There's a host of good answers here. I think the question is a little on the vague side though! " how long is a piece of sting?".

Different writers charge different prices, and different marketers pay different rates. Writers from some countries charge as little as $5 because the exchange rate makes it a good price for them. But I think you get what you pay for. A $5 dollar article, sometimes is worth just that! $5.

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That may be one way, but it isn't the only way.
I never said it was the only way. I said it's nothing to be ashamed of, that I did it, and that other people should do it too.

If you'd like to make some other recommendation, feel free, but complaining that you don't like mine isn't doing squat for anybody.

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To be More clear,An Native english writer charges $5-$8 per 500 word article While others charge $2-$5.But As everyone in this thread says,It depends.
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I never said it was the only way. I said it's nothing to be ashamed of, that I did it, and that other people should do it too.

If you'd like to make some other recommendation, feel free, but complaining that you don't like mine isn't doing squat for anybody.
I already did in an earlier reply. Perhaps you missed it: "Start out as you mean to go on, or as close to it as you can."


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No, I just thought it was horrifically bad advice. Maybe you missed that: Would you recommend that someone just out of college ask for a six-figure salary immediately?

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No, I just thought it was horrifically bad advice. Maybe you missed that: Would you recommend that someone just out of college ask for a six-figure salary immediately?
We obviously disagree on this, so I am simply going to respect your point of view, and leave it at that.


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If you write in the $5-$10 range, it's important to learn to be able to research and write REALLY fast. Clients shouldn't be too difficult to get at such a rate, and you should do your best to secure repeat business.

I write for $7.50 per 500 words. I write very fast without compromising the quality, and most of my orders are done within 24 hours. I'm making a good enough living from it right now.

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It has become clear to me personally that people have very different opinions on what high-quality content is, exactly, which can be frustrating.

Many agree that high-quality writing is whatever the client perceives it to be, however, most seem to be able to recognize a quality piece when they see it. Is it not fair then to say that all decent writing has something in common?

I really wish there was a 'holy bible' of writing, or something, to eliminate the confusion. The first commandment should be:

1. Don't write unless you can sell it for more than $10 a page.

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$17.50 an article (3.5 cents a word) is about the cutoff for anyone that buys articles in bulk. If your articles are worth more than $17.50, you have three choices:

1. Sell them for $17.50 anyway.
2. Stop selling them and use them yourself.
3. Stop writing articles.



I charge ten cents a word, but this is largely academic because I don't like writing for clients and will probably not write for you no matter what you're paying. If I personally know you, and you bring me an interesting topic, and I happen to have time on my hands, then I might write for you. But in general, I only write for myself.

As far as the average writer, anyone sufficiently fluent in the English language not to make spelling and grammar errors should be charging at least two cents a word ($10 a 500 word article), and if you can actually write something interesting you should be charging that $17.50 mentioned above.

But articles on the internet are not where any real writer makes their money. It's just where they meet the clients who recognise their talent and hire them to do other, more important, things that pay a lot higher rates.
Completely, 100% wrong. The worth of an article cannot be determined. I have articles from 6 years ago still making me money and showing me how valuable they are. If I were to try to put a price on how much they are worth, I would spend countless hours trying to figure this out.

A well written 500 word article can be priceless as it can make money for the owner year after year.

The only time an article has a specific value assigned to it is when it is sold. In that case, if you are good at convincing clients that a 500 word article and literally make them thousands of dollars over the life of the article, then you can sell them for much higher than $17.50, even with bulk orders.

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This is very difficult in the bulk article world, because the people who need ENOUGH over-$17.50 articles to be worth pursuing also have enough writers that, statistically, several of them are worth more than they think... so the client gets better articles, but continues to pay $17.50 for them. And most of these clients are smart enough to rotate new writers into the pool continually, so they never have enough need for higher-priced articles.

Basically, the game changes over $17.50 and instead of finding clients who need enough articles, you're looking for enough clients who need articles. And once you're doing that, it's just a lot smarter to switch your focus and stop writing 500 word articles at all. Longer content becomes more lucrative much faster than it becomes more difficult.
This is a very pessimistic approach and the writers that take this advice will certainly never see more than $17.50 per 500 word article

I do agree, however, longer content is more lucrative and many writers don't know their full value. I know I didn't at first, but had an SEO client tell me I needed to charge more. As soon as I got the hint (6 months later) I went from writing 15,000 words of low quality content for my daily earnings to about 3,000 to 5,000 a day of much higher quality.

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well that depend upon the quality of article. According to my experince, I used to submit articles to ezinearticles.com which only approve high quality articles. And That articles cost me $5 per 500 words.
EZA does not approve only high quality articles and much of what they approve is garbage. In addition, many of the articles submitted to EZA are submitted for the wrong reasons. Sure, backlinks are nice and a little bit of direct traffic is nice, but the point of any good article directory is syndication.

The idea is to submit HIGH quality content (longer than 500 words) for others to use on their blog, website, or for their newsletter. This can create hundreds of backlinks along with many more traffic sources than just EZA.

Did you know EZA gives more clout to articles over 750 words? They approve them faster and rank them higher in their categories.

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The challenge with this discussion is that we all have a different opinion on the definition of "high-quality" articles.

I have to admit that I don't agree on your statement that EZA only approves articles of high quality.

They have a much higher standard then article's directories that have auto approval systems, but I have found a lot of articles there I wouldn't have submitted to my website.

Not even if they paid me to do so.

Let me ask you some questions according to your experience of submitting articles to EZA, that your outsourced for the price of $5.

1. Did those articles bring in some traffic to your site?
2. Did any website owners publish your articles on their website?
3. And finally and most important of all, if "yes" on question 1 or 2, did the traffic convert into sale or leads?

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Agreed! Most of the articles I have seen the best results from are at least 800 words and I wrote myself. I have one writer I use that provides me with great 800 word articles that do well there, but it is hard to find a writer for less than 5 cents a word that can do more than just get the article approved by EZA.


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Would you recommend that someone just out of college ask for a six-figure salary immediately?

Talent is nothing. Experience is everything. If you want a lot of experience fast, work cheap.
Talent is everything.....experience is not. Experience is important, but not everything. In my experience those with the seniority are lazier and don't care nearly as much as those with talent.

If you want a lot of BAD experience and you want to learn how to write low quality really fast.....work for cheap and starve.

Talent is God given and when we use our talents for good we work with passion.

READ THAT AGAIN!!!!!!!!!

Passion is important, especially in a creative field like writing. If you are not writing with passion and you don't love what you do, I suggest you find something new to do.

If more talented college graduates asked for more money out of college maybe it would change the corporate job market that pays less than peanuts currently.

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Each money producing site you make should be thought of as a business in itself, since you can sell it later on.

Truth be told (Shhh ... told tell anyone), for an adsense site, you need around 15 pages of content and for an affiliate site, around 25 pages. But, each of those pages should be 1,000 words or more (especially your 2 main keyword pages - home page and another page), unless the keywords you are competing for are easy. Google wants relevant content and around 1,000 or more words, if you want a jump in rankings, that is ...

So, do you want 1,000 mixed up words meaning nothing, or do you want excellent content that people will want to read ?

It costs money to build a really good site and you will find that more true now and in the future with Google. Just a guess ...

I know that needanarticle.com will now charge around $15-20 or more for a 1,000 - 1,250 word article, but it will be good if you give them the info they need and ask them to include 3 or more headings in it (with your keyword in the first one and your secondary keyword in the other 2).

Anyway, you get what you pay for, but down the road your return on investment (ROI), should make it worth your while, if you picked the right keywords of course. Hmmm - another subject in itself - did I mention SEMRush ?

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