Unexpected test results and how it changed my business forever

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Now I just want to mention that this only works with your own products and I have not been able to replicate or adapt with affiliate marketing.

Since I started out in affilaite marketing all of my traffic went to a squeeze page to collect opt ins, give them some sort of freebie either a free report or video that would help them solve some of their biggest problems in advance. (which is great and highly recommended for affilaite marketers)

I decided one day to start sending traffic directly to the sales page, ppc and banner traffic, just to see what would happen. (all of this took place in a non make money related niche)

I sent 1000 visitors directly to the sales page and 1000 to the squeeze page and here is what I came up with.

Squeeze page results:

21% opt in rate - 210 opt ins
9% sales conversion rate = 19 sales
$3,734 in sales

Direct to sales page:

4% conversion rate - 41 sales
$8,077 in sales

Now I did of course use an email parser and a check box after purchase to build a list of everyone who purchased who would like to willingly be on a list for future follow up.

1,000 visitors cost me roughly $700 so keep that in mind too, which doesn't come overnight in under 5 clicks, this step is actually pretty tedious and takes about 20 actual hours of work to do it right and that is just to setup, then it takes even more time to get 1000 visitors,But after its all setup the traffic continues to come on its own.

I also usually sell offers in the $197-$2000 range, the only time I have sold low end $17 offers is here in the forum, which is not ideal because you sell literally thousands of copies and are then swamped and have to answer emails all day long which eventually takes away from future earnings.

I also should mention the sales page I used and have been using ever since is much different than what is usually seen.

I start out by finding out exactly what the market is having trouble with, I do extensive research to find out exactly what they need solved and mainly what result they are trying to accomplish.

Then I figure out how exactly to help them get that result in the quickest and easiest way possible. A nice simple and easy to follow video/PDF course usually about 4-6 sessions in total which I deliver over the course of 4-6 weeks with action steps they can act on and actually get a positive result.

The important thing is that you actually focus on helping them get a result, this research takes a few weeks of actual work. Not outsourced , I'm talking down and dirty, for the product I am currently working on I went to a couple chiropractors and even some therapists in person not only to see what it was like for the people suffering but also to get first hand advice from the professionals who deal with the type of people I am trying to help daily.

I also run surveys to people in the niche, find other people who have ran surveys, basically finding out the situations they are in the real underlying problems and I also have a combination of techniques proven to be the most successful based on actual hard data.

Then it's time for the sales page, no long boring stories about life, I get right in there, if your this type of person with this type of problem and are looking for this result keep reading.

I do full text with video optional so they can either read or watch the video. I then begin to tell them what and how to solve their problems. It's almost like frank kerns results in advance strategy just worked into a sales page.

Even if they just read the sales page it would have the potential to change their lives, this basically lets people know that I can help them, how , and if they want more help they have the option to do so in exchange for a little bit of their money.

The whole process takes about 6-8 weeks and the results are pretty consistent, I have been testing this out and using it for the last 8 months and have had similar results every time

The research step is probably the most important step, without it you would just be guessing and leaving your income to chance which is never good, if you outsource you lose the inside advantage you have.

Don't be afraid to actually get in there and do some work it won't kill you and will most likely help you reach your goals.
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  • Maybe front-end sales are better but...

    1) You don't build a list to promote future products.
    2) You don't build a list to promote affiliate offers.
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    • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
      Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

      Maybe front-end sales are better but...

      1) You don't build a list to promote future products.
      2) You don't build a list to promote affiliate offers.
      You must not of read the entire post, I do use an email parser to build a list of everyone who buys.
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      • Originally Posted by nicholasb View Post

        You must not of read the entire post, I do use an email parser to build a list of everyone who buys.
        Yes, I was meaning front-end subscribers, not customers.

        Also, a 4% conversion rate on a sales page is HUGE, plus a 21% opt-in on a Squeeze Page is a bit low. Do you think in the long term it's worth it?
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        • Profile picture of the author AlphaWarrior
          Great thread!

          The problem that I have (and a lot of people have this same problem) is that I really do not know how to spot problems that people are having. I search for keywords because that is one way to spot problems or at least spot what people are looking for.

          How to you find/spot/identify problems that people have?

          Thanks.
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          • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
            Originally Posted by AlphaWarrior View Post

            Great thread!

            The problem that I have (and a lot of people have this same problem) is that I really do not know how to spot problems that people are having. I search for keywords because that is one way to spot problems or at least spot what people are looking for.

            How to you find/spot/identify problems that people have?

            Thanks.
            I look in forums, I run surveys to other people lists in that niche, I look for survey data others have posted, consulting with experts in the field, I look for data posted by credible sources, also you can pay research centers for data they have collected, and read books and magazines in the niche to find common recurring topics.
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        • Profile picture of the author nicholasb
          Originally Posted by Anonymous Affiliate View Post

          Yes, I was meaning front-end subscribers, not customers.

          Also, a 4% conversion rate on a sales page is HUGE, plus a 21% opt-in on a Squeeze Page is a bit low. Do you think in the long term it's worth it?
          Yes considering the backed offers 5,000 and up are selling well. The sales on the front end are consistent, and so is the backed, this way is making me far more and will continue to do so since my list is purely buyers and I only sell high end offers, I think this s way better in the long run, and since it's based on solid business principles and not some loophole or tactic I see no reason why it wouldn't be long term

          Also considering I have been doing it the other way for 5 years and this instantly more than doubled my profits, and cut my advertising cost greatly.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mate
    Testing FTW.

    Every marketer who wants to be successful should keep testing to get the best ROI.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattCatania
    Very nice results...

    It's not uncommon to find people using what seems like a 'reverse squeeze page'. In reality you're only building a buyers list, which is excellent... but you're missing out on others that MAY have bought from you after building trust with them and exposing them multiple times to a beneficial product.

    I agree that testing is the only way you'll figure out which method is more profitable for your business - so keep an open mind, and continue running tests.

    Best of luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author eshapard
    Interesting results... I suppose to see the long-run results you'd have to create two different email lists and see which one yields more income after 6 months or so.

    Thanks for the post!
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  • Profile picture of the author jaybaker
    How do you set up that email parser after? I mean do you take them to the affiliate sales letter with a simple bar across the top saying click here if you want to learn more on this topic or what?
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  • Profile picture of the author euraffiliates
    Hi nicholasb,

    In my experience direct links to sales pages always gives better result. I am not sure whether your existing affiliate system supports direct linking facilities or not (euraffiliates supports), but I think if so, it is wise to setup all affiliate links directly to the sales pages. Normally 80% traffic never click again. So an extra route always reduces the chance of conversion. This will help you to get all benefits of affiliate marketing at the same time there is no overhead of squeeze page routing.

    Thanks
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  • Profile picture of the author markowe
    Interesting findings, I am kind of unimpressed with my conversions via non-buyer lists. I even ditched one entirely a while back. Your way seems cleaner somehow. But about PPC, are you talking Adwords? I just gave up with Adwords for squeeze pages, and even sales pages - they just seen to hate them, I seem to get a low quality score for my LP, no matter what.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    Does this mean that you will switch your business model to sending people straight to your sales page, instead of to your squeeze page?
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