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Optin capture allowed this way?

by Challe77
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I am selling a product using a paypal service, and that automatically gives me access to the customers e-mail, is it ok to use their e-mail adress for building a list, or do I need them to get to opt-in to a new aweber list?

Sincerely
Karl
#allowed #capture #optin
  • Profile picture of the author Oliver Williams
    They must opt in this is how you know that they actually want to be on your list. I don't think it is allowed but more importantly it is not an effective marketing method.
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    The best way to obtain your customer's email for listbuilding is to have them register on your web platform to obtain the product they paid for. This way you'll not be breaking paypal's TOS
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    • Profile picture of the author Istvan Horvath
      Originally Posted by Dann Vicker View Post

      The best way to obtain your customer's email for listbuilding is to have them register on your web platform to obtain the product they paid for. This way you'll not be breaking paypal's TOS
      You are completely wrong!

      If you force any buyer to optin before getting the product they have already paid for... you are violating Paypal's TOS.

      To the OP: you are asking 2 different questions as if they were one:

      a) can the buyers' email be added automatically to an Aweber list? - yes it can. There are tools in Aweber for it > go to the MyList > Email Parsers section. Also, some selling/payment platforms have this option built-in.
      Of course, you want them to be on a separate list, e.g. "product-A-list".
      If they were on a 'pre-sell' list before - there are also tools in aweber (Automation) to remove them from the freebie/presell list when being added to the buyers list.

      b) confirmed optin or not. This should be decided on a list by list basis, depending on your needs and what Aweber lets you do.
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      • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
        I just thought this apparently needs to be repeated in a much louder voice.

        Originally Posted by Istvan Horvath View Post

        If you force any buyer to optin before getting the product they have already paid for... you are violating Paypal's TOS.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Hess
    Aweber actually has an application that will integrate your list(s) with PayPal: PayPal: Turn Customers into Subscribers
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph G Spiteri
      I just don't get it you have already got an email from a buyer and we all know know how much buyers are worth.
      And you want to buy more email's?
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  • Profile picture of the author CDarklock
    Originally Posted by Challe77 View Post

    I am selling a product using a paypal service, and that automatically gives me access to the customers e-mail, is it ok to use their e-mail adress for building a list
    Yes. It is still a good idea for this list to be a confirmed opt-in list through a list provider. Most list providers have methods available to automatically opt-in buyers to your list and send the confirmation message immediately. Some even allow you to do single opt-in just as automatically.

    Originally Posted by Joseph G Spiteri View Post

    And you want to buy more email's?
    No. He has got the buyer's email address in PayPal. He wants to know if it is okay to put that address onto a list and email the buyer.
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  • Profile picture of the author AnnaSEO
    You could just provide them an option to subscribe before accessing your product adding an bonus And a "No thanks" Button at the bottom of the page.
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