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Possible to make money online on auto-pilot and minimal cash input?

by Chartist
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Hi Reader,

Thank you for clicking on my thread.

As I have minimal cash and very little time, I am wondering is it still possible for me to start an online business of some sort and hopefully be able to make some side income to supplement the high expenses of my family.

Really appreaciate all seniors and experienced IM-ers who can input your views and thoughts to guide me on my web path... Thanks so much
#autopilot #cash #input #make #minimal #money #online
  • Profile picture of the author tim_buchalka
    Read this thread for starters

    http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ters-make.html

    You want to know what are the main mistakes people make.

    Understand that you need to invest some time in yourself to learn about the industry - You have most of what you need in this forum.

    Remember when you started you first job there was a lot you didn't know (and a lot that you didn't know that you didn't know - if you know what i mean).

    As you learned things became clearer and options for promotion opened up and you got more experience and more confidence - The same is true for Internet Marketing.

    My suggestion would be for you to focus on learning the ropes about the industry and then as you get more knowledge start thinking about which avenue you are looking at.

    For example Affiliate Marketing, Product creation, etc. There is probably no point in making any hard decisions right now because you do not have the knowledge and skills to know whether the decision is a good one or not.

    Good luck and keep at it! Tons of people are making a nice income online and there is nothing stopping you from joining them.

    Cheers
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by tim_buchalka View Post

      Read this thread for starters


      You want to know what are the main mistakes people make.

      Understand that you need to invest some time in yourself to learn about the industry - You have most of what you need in this forum.

      Remember when you started you first job there was a lot you didn't know (and a lot that you didn't know that you didn't know - if you know what i mean).

      As you learned things became clearer and options for promotion opened up and you got more experience and more confidence - The same is true for Internet Marketing.

      My suggestion would be for you to focus on learning the ropes about the industry and then as you get more knowledge start thinking about which avenue you are looking at.

      For example Affiliate Marketing, Product creation, etc. There is probably no point in making any hard decisions right now because you do not have the knowledge and skills to know whether the decision is a good one or not.

      Good luck and keep at it! Tons of people are making a nice income online and there is nothing stopping you from joining them.

      Cheers
      Thanks for your encouragement.
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  • Profile picture of the author Halcyon
    In this business little time invested + minimal effort = non existent profits.
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  • Profile picture of the author MattBrighton
    I would definately suggest reading this post http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ters-make.html that Tim highlighted above! Its a crucial read for internet marketers

    The best advice is don't give up - because you won't make money by giving up. But the thing is, you won't make instant money as thats just not possible, like your career and salary outside of the internet - you have to work hard for that money and that means years and years of education to be able to be qualified to be able to earn what you earn.

    I'm not saying that IM requires years and years of reading , research and learning, but you still need to do that. You've made a great step by coming onto this forum, check out the posts and definately get yourself a WF membership for $37.00 its well worth it and there are some great ideas in the war room

    Don't let all this information overload you though, read up on techniques and focus on that. I have a WSO about how I made my first 4 figures online theres a link in my signature for it. I made about $35 on my first day on Fiverr then it went from there really and I developed myself further from this.

    Another good piece of advice is to INVEST IN YOURSELF! If you make money - don't spend it, use that money to invest more and make a greater return.

    Good luck! Hope you found this helpful
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by MattBrighton View Post

      I would definately suggest reading this post that Tim highlighted above! Its a crucial read for internet marketers

      The best advice is don't give up - because you won't make money by giving up. But the thing is, you won't make instant money as thats just not possible, like your career and salary outside of the internet - you have to work hard for that money and that means years and years of education to be able to be qualified to be able to earn what you earn.

      I'm not saying that IM requires years and years of reading , research and learning, but you still need to do that. You've made a great step by coming onto this forum, check out the posts and definately get yourself a WF membership for $37.00 its well worth it and there are some great ideas in the war room

      Don't let all this information overload you though, read up on techniques and focus on that. I have a WSO about how I made my first 4 figures online theres a link in my signature for it. I made about $35 on my first day on Fiverr then it went from there really and I developed myself further from this.

      Another good piece of advice is to INVEST IN YOURSELF! If you make money - don't spend it, use that money to invest more and make a greater return.

      Good luck! Hope you found this helpful
      Thanks for your help and advice
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    An online business is pretty much like any other business and I don't know of too many that have been successful with little time or money invested.

    I think you need to be willing to put in one or the other or preferably both in order to see good income.

    I know there are those that claim to have made lots of money without any time or money invested but I would say those are the exception rather than the rule. I think most people here who are making good money will tell you that they have a lot of time/money invested in growing their business to that point.

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    • Profile picture of the author Marx Vergel Melencio
      Yes, it is possible...

      1. Hire a market, micro niche, affiliate product and keyword researcher associate. Also ask this person to monitor good expired and expiring domains with exact match domain names relevant to profitable industries, micro niches and exact match keyword searches. Tell this person to gather relevant backlink profile and other domain details of these expired and expiring domains, so he or she can purchase those domains, preferably closeout domains...

      2. Hire a content researcher/writer. Ask this person to write unique, relevant product review content about the affiliate products included in the research output provided by your researcher associate. Of course, the content should be helpful for people prepared to purchase those affiliate products as soon as they gain useful info that can help them make an informed buying decision...

      3. Hire a Web developer with graphics design expertise. Ask this person to customize the design of free or paid Wordpress themes most suitable for the micro niches provided by your researcher associate. Also ask this person to upload the content from your writer associate to the sites, including content formatting, adding relevant images and placing your affiliate links...

      4. Hire an SEO associate who can do effective onsite SEO for these sites. Also ask this person to integrate an autoresponder into those sites, upload, activate and configure good Wordpress plugins that will SE optimize your onsite content further and make it easy for your content to be shared by your viewers to their social networks. Sell these sites and domains for profits: Ask this person to post these sites for sale in site flipping networks and SEO/IM Web forums. Ask this person to post these domains for sale in domain auction sites and SEO/IM Web forums...

      5. Monitor your overheads, gross and net profits. Improve your plans and campaigns. Once you're confident that only minimal changes could most likely be required to your improved plans and campaigns: Train someone to do this and hire this person, so you'll just get weekly reports from this person as well as emergency notifications when necessary...

      6. Invest some of your net profits in other profitable ventures...

      Of course: You can't correctly do the things above if you don't know the industry standard output volume and quality that should be produced by each of the persons you'll hire...
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      • Profile picture of the author Chartist
        Originally Posted by Marx Vergel Melencio View Post

        Yes, it is possible...

        1. Hire a market, micro niche, affiliate product and keyword researcher associate. Also ask this person to monitor good expired and expiring domains with exact match domain names relevant to profitable industries, micro niches and exact match keyword searches. Tell this person to gather relevant backlink profile and other domain details of these expired and expiring domains, so he or she can purchase those domains, preferably closeout domains...

        2. Hire a content researcher/writer. Ask this person to write unique, relevant product review content about the affiliate products included in the research output provided by your researcher associate. Of course, the content should be helpful for people prepared to purchase those affiliate products as soon as they gain useful info that can help them make an informed buying decision...

        3. Hire a Web developer with graphics design expertise. Ask this person to customize the design of free or paid Wordpress themes most suitable for the micro niches provided by your researcher associate. Also ask this person to upload the content from your writer associate to the sites, including content formatting, adding relevant images and placing your affiliate links...

        4. Hire an SEO associate who can do effective onsite SEO for these sites. Also ask this person to integrate an autoresponder into those sites, upload, activate and configure good Wordpress plugins that will SE optimize your onsite content further and make it easy for your content to be shared by your viewers to their social networks. Sell these sites and domains for profits: Ask this person to post these sites for sale in site flipping networks and SEO/IM Web forums. Ask this person to post these domains for sale in domain auction sites and SEO/IM Web forums...

        5. Monitor your overheads, gross and net profits. Improve your plans and campaigns. Once you're confident that only minimal changes could most likely be required to your improved plans and campaigns: Train someone to do this and hire this person, so you'll just get weekly reports from this person as well as emergency notifications when necessary...

        6. Invest some of your net profits in other profitable ventures...

        Of course: You can't correctly do the things above if you don't know the industry standard output volume and quality that should be produced by each of the persons you'll hire...
        Hey Marx, Thanks for your encouragement.

        For a newbie like me, can you guide me to get started? any help would be very welcome..
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      • Profile picture of the author shermancox
        Originally Posted by Marx Vergel Melencio View Post

        Yes, it is possible...

        1. Hire a market, micro niche, affiliate product and keyword researcher associate.

        2. Hire a content researcher/writer.

        3. Hire a Web developer with graphics design expertise.

        4. Hire an SEO associate who can do effective onsite SEO for these sites.

        5. Monitor your overheads, gross and net profits.

        6. Invest some of your net profits in other profitable ventures...

        Of course: You can't correctly do the things above if you don't know the industry standard output volume and quality that should be produced by each of the persons you'll hire...
        hiring 6 people and making sure that they are producing is neither auto pilot...nor is it minimal cash input...

        Well I guess you can get it to autopilot if you find the right 6 folks...but it still ain't minimal cash...I guess that depends on what you mean by "minimal"
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        • Profile picture of the author Marx Vergel Melencio
          Originally Posted by shermancox View Post

          [SNIP]hiring 6 people and making sure that they are producing is neither auto pilot...nor is it minimal cash input...[/SNIP]
          What's your reference point? Mine is sustainability, ROI timeline, net profit margins and scalability. Now, with hindsight: Would you think this is neither auto pilot, nor minimum cash input?

          Originally Posted by shermancox View Post

          [SNIP]Well I guess you can get it to autopilot if you find the right 6 folks...but it still ain't minimal cash...I guess that depends on what you mean by "minimal"[/SNIP]
          Again, what's your reference point when mentioning "minimal cash input"? Mine is sustainability, ROI timeline, net profit margins and scalability. Also, my ICT outsourcing company grew from 4 work at home moms and dads, my wife and I included, to more than 120 employees, 2 head offices here in Manila, 9 provincial city offices across the Philippines, 40 independent homebased subcontractors and 11 service supplier subcontractors each with their own groups of 10 to 15 employees. All this in barely 3 months. This means it just took me, back then, a few hours to get six people with the expertise and work ethics I required. Oh, BTW:

          I was totally blind when I did this in 2006, seriously, and I've been continuing to grow and expand my company since then, and I'm still totally blind, going on 9 years now, after being gunned down twice, chest and head, last Nov 2003...
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        • Profile picture of the author salegurus
          Originally Posted by shermancox View Post

          hiring 6 people and making sure that they are producing is neither auto pilot...nor is it minimal cash input...
          Agreed.
          Sometimes i think people either don't understand the OP or to lazy to read more than one line but answer anyway.
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      • Profile picture of the author protectyoursales
        Originally Posted by Marx Vergel Melencio View Post

        Yes, it is possible...

        1. Hire a market, micro niche, affiliate product and keyword researcher associate. Also ask this person to monitor good expired and expiring domains with exact match domain names relevant to profitable industries, micro niches and exact match keyword searches. Tell this person to gather relevant backlink profile and other domain details of these expired and expiring domains, so he or she can purchase those domains, preferably closeout domains...

        2. Hire a content researcher/writer. Ask this person to write unique, relevant product review content about the affiliate products included in the research output provided by your researcher associate. Of course, the content should be helpful for people prepared to purchase those affiliate products as soon as they gain useful info that can help them make an informed buying decision...

        3. Hire a Web developer with graphics design expertise. Ask this person to customize the design of free or paid Wordpress themes most suitable for the micro niches provided by your researcher associate. Also ask this person to upload the content from your writer associate to the sites, including content formatting, adding relevant images and placing your affiliate links...

        4. Hire an SEO associate who can do effective onsite SEO for these sites. Also ask this person to integrate an autoresponder into those sites, upload, activate and configure good Wordpress plugins that will SE optimize your onsite content further and make it easy for your content to be shared by your viewers to their social networks. Sell these sites and domains for profits: Ask this person to post these sites for sale in site flipping networks and SEO/IM Web forums. Ask this person to post these domains for sale in domain auction sites and SEO/IM Web forums...

        5. Monitor your overheads, gross and net profits. Improve your plans and campaigns. Once you're confident that only minimal changes could most likely be required to your improved plans and campaigns: Train someone to do this and hire this person, so you'll just get weekly reports from this person as well as emergency notifications when necessary...

        6. Invest some of your net profits in other profitable ventures...

        Of course: You can't correctly do the things above if you don't know the industry standard output volume and quality that should be produced by each of the persons you'll hire...
        Yup, it'll only cost you about $10 to get started and from there it's all hands off! Just hire 6 people and reinvest your money into all of your 'other profitable ventures' that you have lying around and you are SET!

        ...

        Yup.
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        • Profile picture of the author Marx Vergel Melencio
          Originally Posted by protectyoursales View Post

          [/SNIP]Yup, it'll only cost you about $10 to get started and from there it's all hands off! Just hire 6 people and reinvest your money into all of your 'other profitable ventures' that you have lying around and you are SET![/SNIP]
          Where has all the creativity gone? You don't need $10 to hire six people to do the plan I outlined above. Start with your friends, relatives, colleagues and other social contacts with relevant expertise and interested in earning income online. Ask them to work at home doing those things. Get clients to pay upfront. Use those funds to pay your contacts for their contracted services. Use your net profits to invest in the things you need to follow the plan I outlined above. Scale up your operations. Sign up more clients. Hire others to do things for you which will grow and expand your business. Earn more net profits and gain more free time. Develop more innovative business and investment plans. Invest in those ventures. What does this mean?

          Substantial time investment upon startup. 0 cash input. Net profits for you. Additional income for your contacts. Sustainability and scalability for your business. More time to develop innovative business and investment plans. More time and resources to invest in those ventures. More free time. More net profits. More creative freedom to become a musician or a novelist or a visual artist or a movie producer or or or...
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          • Profile picture of the author Chartist
            Originally Posted by Marx Vergel Melencio View Post

            Where has all the creativity gone? You don't need $10 to hire six people to do the plan I outlined above. Start with your friends, relatives, colleagues and other social contacts with relevant expertise and interested in earning income online. Ask them to work at home doing those things. Get clients to pay upfront. Use those funds to pay your contacts for their contracted services. Use your net profits to invest in the things you need to follow the plan I outlined above. Scale up your operations. Sign up more clients. Hire others to do things for you which will grow and expand your business. Earn more net profits and gain more free time. Develop more innovative business and investment plans. Invest in those ventures. What does this mean?

            Substantial time investment upon startup. 0 cash input. Net profits for you. Additional income for your contacts. Sustainability and scalability for your business. More time to develop innovative business and investment plans. More time and resources to invest in those ventures. More free time. More net profits. More creative freedom to become a musician or a novelist or a visual artist or a movie producer or or or...
            Hi Marx,

            From your replies i see you are a very knowleageable and success internet business owner.

            Can you guide and show me the ropes on how to be as successful as you?

            Very Much appreciated. thanks

            Chartist
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        • Profile picture of the author Chartist
          Originally Posted by protectyoursales View Post

          Yup, it'll only cost you about $10 to get started and from there it's all hands off! Just hire 6 people and reinvest your money into all of your 'other profitable ventures' that you have lying around and you are SET!

          ...

          Yup.
          If its 10 bucks to start and hands off thereafter. Please share more thanks.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      An online business is pretty much like any other business and I don't know of too many that have been successful with little time or money invested.

      I think you need to be willing to put in one or the other or preferably both in order to see good income.

      I know there are those that claim to have made lots of money without any time or money invested but I would say those are the exception rather than the rule. I think most people here who are making good money will tell you that they have a lot of time/money invested in growing their business to that point.

      Lee

      Hi Lee, Thanks for your advice and encouragement.

      If we were to invest an equal amount of both time and money. What is a reasonable amount for a newbie to invest in, in order to start himself on this online business way?

      As for the vested time, I am also prepared to put in the after hours of work onto my projects/business to grow it. Would that be enough?

      Right now i am clueless as to where to start, what to do first, second, third and so on and so forth. Plenty of advice and assistance from people like you will be much appreciated. :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author discrat
    Originally Posted by Chartist View Post

    Hi Reader,

    Thank you for clicking on my thread.

    As I have minimal cash and very little time, I am wondering is it still possible for me to start an online business of some sort and hopefully be able to make some side income to supplement the high expenses of my family.

    Really appreaciate all seniors and experienced IM-ers who can input your views and thoughts to guide me on my web path... Thanks so much
    I started Blogging at Blogger Blog and had no upstart cost at all. I did some SEO work on my own by Blog, by blog commenting and using Ezine Articles and Go articels pointing back to my Blog with anchor text link. And on top of this I produced good, useful and unique content to my Blog on a consistent basis. All of this is FREE !! ( Eventually as you make more money you might switch some of those blogs over to Wordpress !!)

    Put some adsense on that Blog and CPA offers and you will develop some automatic cash coming in each month without even posting in your Blog (eventually). That is at least from my experience !!
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  • Profile picture of the author Tech19
    My suggestion would be to stop searching for either. I'm not going to say its never been done before, because people will tell you its possible. Personally I feel that if you want to build a true business that you can count on for years to come, there is no way. That mindset is the exact reason so many people fail.. They are in constant search of something "easier". I want to do nothing, spend nothing, and make tons! It's not going to happen. So when they purchase a product that could potentially make them thousands if implemented properly, they give up when you find out it takes work or they feel it is too hard.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by Tech19 View Post

      My suggestion would be to stop searching for either. I'm not going to say its never been done before, because people will tell you its possible. Personally I feel that if you want to build a true business that you can count on for years to come, there is no way. That mindset is the exact reason so many people fail.. They are in constant search of something "easier". I want to do nothing, spend nothing, and make tons! It's not going to happen. So when they purchase a product that could potentially make them thousands if implemented properly, they give up when you find out it takes work or they feel it is too hard.
      Thanks for your advice Tech.

      For me I am more of lost in getting started, like what to do, how much time i need to invest and into doing what, how much money is a good gauge to start etc.

      I want this to work longer term but i dont know how. Perhaps you can share more of your expertise with me or guide me on the road to success..
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    Originally Posted by Chartist View Post

    Hi Reader,

    Thank you for clicking on my thread.

    As I have minimal cash and very little time, I am wondering is it still possible for me to start an online business of some sort and hopefully be able to make some side income to supplement the high expenses of my family.

    Really appreaciate all seniors and experienced IM-ers who can input your views and thoughts to guide me on my web path... Thanks so much
    Nope, that is not possible.

    The minimal cash part: no problem, that's possible.
    The minimal time part: it's takes up to 2 hours per day to add up your earnings.

    So, you have to invest a little more time
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by hpgoodboy View Post

      Nope, that is not possible.

      The minimal cash part: no problem, that's possible.
      The minimal time part: it's takes up to 2 hours per day to add up your earnings.

      So, you have to invest a little more time

      hi hpgoodboy,

      Thanks for your reply..

      Just thinking, would increasing the cash investment part be able to reduce the time I need to do things myself manually?

      I am still prepared to put in the 2 hrs daily after work to make this thing work just that I dont know how and where to start...

      Can you guide?
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  • Profile picture of the author brucephan
    Trying to balance your cash and time, invest your money into tools that you can provide automate SEO services or niche sites that can generate money after months. Don't aim too high or take thing too complicated, i know but things tend too complicated at the beginning and one seem has many options but actually its not.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by brucephan View Post

      Trying to balance your cash and time, invest your money into tools that you can provide automate SEO services or niche sites that can generate money after months. Don't aim too high or take thing too complicated, i know but things tend too complicated at the beginning and one seem has many options but actually its not.
      Hi Bruce phan, this sounds like a plan but how do I start?

      can you guide me? thanks
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      • Profile picture of the author salegurus
        Originally Posted by Chartist View Post

        Hi Bruce phan, this sounds like a plan but how do I start?

        can you guide me? thanks
        Do you honestly expect people to spoonfeed you?
        Put on your big boy pants and start with some good old fashion research.
        WF has tons of free info for beginners...
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    Yes sure, There are so many online marketing, who gives you good return as per as you done
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    You should consider creating a blog from Blogger.com, and focus it around a nice sized niche that is profitable and hungry for information. Then after you've amasssed a large size portion of traffic each and everyday, throw Google Adsense on the site along with some Clickbank products sprinkled through your blog posts, and also on the side panel.
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  • Profile picture of the author JohnDBrewer
    Chartist,

    I sent you a PM with some information. I provided affiliate links but also the non-affiliate links so you don't think I am trying to take advantage. The things I sent you have helped me immensely. If you have any other questions, let me know. I am signing off for the night but I will be back on tomorrow and will check back for the questions if you are not able to PM.

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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by JohnDBrewer View Post

      Chartist,

      I sent you a PM with some information. I provided affiliate links but also the non-affiliate links so you don't think I am trying to take advantage. The things I sent you have helped me immensely. If you have any other questions, let me know. I am signing off for the night but I will be back on tomorrow and will check back for the questions if you are not able to PM.

      John

      Hey John,

      Finally a post of sincerity other than the ones I see above me.

      I cannot reply to your PM because I am very new to this forum.

      However I have updated my skype details in my profile so perhaps we can connect over there?

      Look through your links and it has certainly excited me. Thanks for sharing.

      Chartist
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      • Profile picture of the author livethedream
        I started off with free methods and a lot of hard work writing articles and creating squidoo lenses. I picked a NOT so popular product from clickbank with a low gravity under 20 and wrote articles with my affiliate link in. This got me my first sales and gave me the "belief" that I could make this work.. I then had months and months of disappointing results because I had not learnt the basics of keyword research and was targeting the wrong keywords.

        I remember find great keywords but getting hardly any traffic and why was this? because I was using google keyword tool and not searching for exact match so the numbers I thought I had found were wrong...

        Looking back this is what I should have made a priority to learn about..

        0. Product Selection
        1. Keyword research
        2. How to evaluate competition
        2. Wordpress sites
        3. wordpress plugins
        5. How to write good content
        4. on and off page SEO
        5. Creating backlinks

        Just those few things would have saved me months and months of pain....
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        • Profile picture of the author Chartist
          Originally Posted by livethedream View Post

          I started off with free methods and a lot of hard work writing articles and creating squidoo lenses. I picked a NOT so popular product from clickbank with a low gravity under 20 and wrote articles with my affiliate link in. This got me my first sales and gave me the "belief" that I could make this work.. I then had months and months of disappointing results because I had not learnt the basics of keyword research and was targeting the wrong keywords.

          I remember find great keywords but getting hardly any traffic and why was this? because I was using google keyword tool and not searching for exact match so the numbers I thought I had found were wrong...

          Looking back this is what I should have made a priority to learn about..

          0. Product Selection
          1. Keyword research
          2. How to evaluate competition
          2. Wordpress sites
          3. wordpress plugins
          5. How to write good content
          4. on and off page SEO
          5. Creating backlinks

          Just those few things would have saved me months and months of pain....
          Hi Livethedream,

          I would love to live the dream just like you.

          Thanks for listing out the steps above... really appreciate it.

          I believe I will need to start and work on parts 1 to 3 first before i can seriously think of the rest.

          Your first step is product selection which varies a little from the other threads I have been reading.

          How do I go about selecting a good product as right now i am totally lost as to what should I be focusing on? Should it be something of my interest? Build a niche site? or blog? or what?

          If its niche site...does the product need to be something of interest to me?

          If its blog? what product will be deemed as good for this?

          Thanks for your time. I cant PM yet as I am still very new. :rolleyes:
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          • Profile picture of the author Greenfatman
            Man you are really lost :rolleyes:
            The guys are giving some basic advices and you are still lost
            Before anything you need to read a step by step course/WSO in how to LEARN make money on line

            1- niche (for God sake, it can be any, weight loss, finance, gardening, etc,etc...
            2 - keyword research, that include competition and profits keywords (if you don't learn how to find a great keyword, forget about online business)

            After you learn that.

            Go and creat some free blogs, blogger,squidoo,etc..You can rewrite or have great ideas on articles directories as ezine article, go article and many more.

            And then apply for adsense, cpa or amazon affiliate.

            outsource SEO on fiverr ($5)

            And please take action, dont keep just making questions...


            Originally Posted by Chartist View Post

            Hi Livethedream,

            I would love to live the dream just like you.

            Thanks for listing out the steps above... really appreciate it.

            I believe I will need to start and work on parts 1 to 3 first before i can seriously think of the rest.

            Your first step is product selection which varies a little from the other threads I have been reading.

            How do I go about selecting a good product as right now i am totally lost as to what should I be focusing on? Should it be something of my interest? Build a niche site? or blog? or what?

            If its niche site...does the product need to be something of interest to me?

            If its blog? what product will be deemed as good for this?

            Thanks for your time. I cant PM yet as I am still very new. :rolleyes:
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            • Profile picture of the author Chartist
              Originally Posted by Greenfatman View Post

              Man you are really lost :rolleyes:
              The guys are giving some basic advices and you are still lost
              Before anything you need to read a step by step course/WSO in how to LEARN make money on line

              1- niche (for God sake, it can be any, weight loss, finance, gardening, etc,etc...
              2 - keyword research, that include competition and profits keywords (if you don't learn how to find a great keyword, forget about online business)

              After you learn that.

              Go and creat some free blogs, blogger,squidoo,etc..You can rewrite or have great ideas on articles directories as ezine article, go article and many more.

              And then apply for adsense, cpa or amazon affiliate.

              outsource SEO on fiverr ($5)

              And please take action, dont keep just making questions...

              Thanks alot.. I am doing some research etc on my own. Hopefully I will be up with something real soon. Thanks.
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        • Profile picture of the author Chartist
          Originally Posted by livethedream View Post

          I started off with free methods and a lot of hard work writing articles and creating squidoo lenses. I picked a NOT so popular product from clickbank with a low gravity under 20 and wrote articles with my affiliate link in. This got me my first sales and gave me the "belief" that I could make this work.. I then had months and months of disappointing results because I had not learnt the basics of keyword research and was targeting the wrong keywords.

          I remember find great keywords but getting hardly any traffic and why was this? because I was using google keyword tool and not searching for exact match so the numbers I thought I had found were wrong...

          Looking back this is what I should have made a priority to learn about..

          0. Product Selection
          1. Keyword research
          2. How to evaluate competition
          2. Wordpress sites
          3. wordpress plugins
          5. How to write good content
          4. on and off page SEO
          5. Creating backlinks

          Just those few things would have saved me months and months of pain....
          Hi Livethedream,

          I came across these 5 steps in one of the free e-books i signed up for.

          1. Niche Research
          2. Keyword Research
          3. Website
          4. Monetization
          5. SEO


          Just wondering how do I do a Niche research? Is it the same thing as your product selection?

          Thanks

          Chartist
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  • Profile picture of the author sunray
    You have to put something in, before expecting to get something in return. In "brick and mortar" business, you need both money and experience. If you lack one of these components, more of your time is required to compensate it.
    In IM it's more or less the same, except having financial means to make big investments is not so necessary. But you still have to put in your experience and if you don't have any, much more of your time is required to get it eventually.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by sunray View Post

      You have to put something in, before expecting to get something in return. In "brick and mortar" business, you need both money and experience. If you lack one of these components, more of your time is required to compensate it.
      In IM it's more or less the same, except having financial means to make big investments is not so necessary. But you still have to put in your experience and if you don't have any, much more of your time is required to get it eventually.
      Right Sunray,

      I do know that but how much time or how much money I need to put in... in which areas, where and how should I start are all question marks to me right now.

      Thanks nevertheless.
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  • Profile picture of the author grantd
    More you put in the more you get out. I don't mean money, time and effort learning. No business out there is going to be automated from the starting gate.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by grantd View Post

      More you put in the more you get out. I don't mean money, time and effort learning. No business out there is going to be automated from the starting gate.
      Thanks for the advice
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  • Profile picture of the author TallyDon
    Usualy you can't process are either labour intensive or capital intensive. The best thing you can do i make a product that creates value (solves a problem) and market it intially with ppc or via facebook.

    Then hope that the comunity will do promoting for you. Affiliates are also a good idea. take a bit more time to set up, but once it is up and running your work doesn;t have to be much (except from answering customers tickets, etc)
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by TallyDon View Post

      Usualy you can't process are either labour intensive or capital intensive. The best thing you can do i make a product that creates value (solves a problem) and market it intially with ppc or via facebook.

      Then hope that the comunity will do promoting for you. Affiliates are also a good idea. take a bit more time to set up, but once it is up and running your work doesn;t have to be much (except from answering customers tickets, etc)
      Thanks for the advice
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  • Profile picture of the author tmoby
    Hopefully it hasn't been said, but here's my 2 cents:

    With some basic understanding of IM you can make autopilot income with no investment. It will take a bit longer to scale things however.

    Youtube is my favourite for this. There are many, many youtube methods here on the forum that do work. Also classified ad posting. I prefer youtube because you can create long term, set it and forget it system.

    That works well for start-up cash if you're really strapped for cash, but I recommend that you always re-invest to grow faster untill you achieve a sustainable income.
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  • Profile picture of the author rearley
    Hey watsup, I am pretty much in the same boat you are in, but go to my profile and check out my blog, and look at the coffeeshopmillionaire post, that is basically what I am doing, I just started yesterday and I am finding success with it.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by rearley View Post

      Hey watsup, I am pretty much in the same boat you are in, but go to my profile and check out my blog, and look at the coffeeshopmillionaire post, that is basically what I am doing, I just started yesterday and I am finding success with it.
      Rearley thanks for sharing...
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      • Profile picture of the author rearley
        Originally Posted by Chartist View Post

        Rearley thanks for sharing...
        I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but you are welcome!
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        • Profile picture of the author Chartist
          Originally Posted by rearley View Post

          I'm not sure if this is sarcasm, but you are welcome!

          No sarcasm intended. The thank you was from the bottom of my heart.
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  • Profile picture of the author Randall Magwood
    The most autopilot business that you can make money with is affiliate marketing and Google Adsense. Both of these you don't have to deal with customers and complaints, and you just earn commissions. You will need alot of traffic though to earn a sizable income, but I think it's more than worth it to pursue. Hey man good luck.
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by Randall Magwood View Post

      The most autopilot business that you can make money with is affiliate marketing and Google Adsense. Both of these you don't have to deal with customers and complaints, and you just earn commissions. You will need alot of traffic though to earn a sizable income, but I think it's more than worth it to pursue. Hey man good luck.

      Hey Randall,

      thanks for your tips and advice. I am currently in the midst of getting something going so I hope to see some results soon.. my targets are affiliate marketing and google adsense..so hopefully I can see a sizeable income soon..
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  • Profile picture of the author NACAdam
    The things you DO need money for

    1 domain
    2 hosting
    3 autoresponder

    things you dont need money for

    finding a niche , finding a product , finding buyers .. Dont complicate things you can make money with no money as well absolutely nothing now you will have to put in the time to learn and apply the techniques .. So my suggestion is you find a way to squeeze in time move things around in anyway shape you can sacrifice sleep do whatever it takes because what awaits on the other side is very rewarding...Wanna learn more send me a message
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by NACAdam View Post

      The things you DO need money for

      1 domain
      2 hosting
      3 autoresponder

      things you dont need money for

      finding a niche , finding a product , finding buyers .. Dont complicate things you can make money with no money as well absolutely nothing now you will have to put in the time to learn and apply the techniques .. So my suggestion is you find a way to squeeze in time move things around in anyway shape you can sacrifice sleep do whatever it takes because what awaits on the other side is very rewarding...Wanna learn more send me a message
      Hey love warrior appreciate your reply.

      I would love to know more but I cannot do PMs just yet as I am still very new to this.
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  • Profile picture of the author Flores
    This is just like any other business in that regard. You have to have some type of capital and/or sweat equity to be successful. There is nothing that is just click here and go, unless you find someone willing to simply hand you a profit machine that is already set in place. If you do, please send me in that direction!
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    • Profile picture of the author Chartist
      Originally Posted by Flores View Post

      This is just like any other business in that regard. You have to have some type of capital and/or sweat equity to be successful. There is nothing that is just click here and go, unless you find someone willing to simply hand you a profit machine that is already set in place. If you do, please send me in that direction!
      Thanks it helps.
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