Please Help, what next? Only made $30/month, expect $5K/month, wish $100K/month

12 years ago

Stick with adsense until you're good at it.

You might need to have 4 or 5 sites until you hit a winner that makes you a couple hundred or more each month. By doing this you'll learn what keywords to target and get better at onsite and off-site SEO.

$30 a month in 7 weeks is pretty good. I started out with Amazon and I didn't even make $1 in my first 7 weeks.

You'll get better and faster and building these sites and getting them ranked. Just stick with adsense for a little longer before moving on to other things. Otherwise you'll just have the same problems all over again.

And stop buying courses and products.

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richrowley

12 years ago

Good advice from Ben here. Dont go after something else, keep going with what you're doing right now and start racking up more traffic, more sites and more income.

Dont be fooled by another shiny object - your making money and you know how to do it. BUild it up before you move on to something else.

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Originally Posted by Ben Armstrong

Stick with adsense until you're good at it.

You might need to have 4 or 5 sites until you hit a winner that makes you a couple hundred or more each month. By doing this you'll learn what keywords to target and get better at onsite and off-site SEO.

$30 a month in 7 weeks is pretty good. I started out with Amazon and I didn't even make $1 in my first 7 weeks.

You'll get better and faster and building these sites and getting them ranked. Just stick with adsense for a little longer before moving on to other things. Otherwise you'll just have the same problems all over again.

And stop buying courses and products.

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Paul Gram

12 years ago

What are your strengths? What are you knowledgeable at and good at? What are your passions? Can you monetize them? You need to find a way to add value to the marketplace and then you can be paid very nicely for it.

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Oliver Williams

12 years ago

You are doing well I agree stick at it, you will get better and better and eventually reach your goal.

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Kay King

12 years ago

While doing the maintainance of my EMD above, I want to do something else. Contemplating to do either Amazon affiliate, Click bank affiliate, or to join CPA networks.

I think you are at risk of spreading yourself too thin.

You have one site up and, believe it or not, it's doing quite well for a new niche site. I'd keep working on that site and promoting that site (and finding more to sell on the site and getting more traffic....) for another month.

I'd turn the best methods I used (the ones that got best results) on that site to develop my own site plan - and then I'd start a couple new sites a month and work exclusively on my plan to make the sites profitable. Make your plan a 4 week or 8 week plan for site development and you can start a new site every week or two while following your weekly plan for other sites and your income will start increasing quickly.

Jumping to CPA/affiliate marketing/etc will make you a newbie at a lot of methods instead of master of one (one at a time, that is) if you try to do it all at once.

When you get 8-10 sites earning small amounts and attracting more and more visitors - let them run and turn to CPA or affiliate marketing or start making your own products and master the next area.

The $5k a month is reachable but it won't happen right away. If you start one thing - and then another and another...if you buy this WSO or product and sign up for multiple memberships and training....it can and will slow you down.

As for $100k - it's a dream now. That's a goal you set when you are reliably earning five figures a month - not for when you are starting out. In spite of what you read - very few marketers earn six figures a month h - just like few people working offline make $1.2 million a year.

You're on a good path. Don't mess yourself up by trying to do everything at once. That's the worst mistake many new marketers make.

I'm sure someone will answer with the suggestion of eggs and baskets or multiple streams of income. That's fine - but you need to fill the first basket and turn the trickle into one stream before you're ready to add more.

kay

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feliciayapsl

12 years ago

$30/month after 7 wks is already very good. You are going way ahead than most people. You cannot be expecting to earn $5k/mth after just a few weeks. You're putting unnecessary pressure on yourself.

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12 years ago

I agree with the thoughts above man you are doing way better than most in their first 7 weeks. The thing is that there's SO MANY ways to make money online. Its so much better use of your time to stick to something you enjoy and make it work.

I too was in that shiny object syndrome for a little bit until I realized all the money and most of all TIME I was wasting jumping from one thing to another.

Personally I don't have the patience for SEO so I quickly realized Adsense was not my thing but many are making good money with it. So what ever you do man just PLEASE STICK WITH ONE THING. Educate yourself on that one thing, stay the course until you start making money and master it.

As far as diversifying your income that is advice you are considering way to early in the equation but you'll get there. Relying on GOOGLE as your main source of income is for sure a risky thing to do since one Algorithym change has made peoples income disappear overnight. So please if Adsense is your thing please make sure you settle for nothing less than quality content on medium to large authority type sites to ground yourself as best as you can.

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Jeff Lenney

12 years ago

Hey Andrew, $30 a month is GREAT for somebody thats new in IM - it took me a bit longer than that to earn a single dollar online - lol. Keep it up, but dont plan or expect to start making $5k a month in just a month or two. :-)

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12 years ago

I'm personally not a huge adsense fan. I would try and monetize it in a different way. $30 in your first month is a lot more than I and many other people make in their first month online.

Keep sticking with it. So you're averaging $1 per day. Now work up to $2 per day, then $3, then $4, eventually you will be $50 a day and starting to see the light.

You just need to keep focused and keep a clear picture of what it is you're trying to achieve. Also try and drive more traffic to your site. Try and drive it right up the first page of Google.

You will be amazed how sales suddenly start to increase once you hit the top 3 spots in Google.

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ImHot

12 years ago

Dude don't listen to these people. 90% make no where near 5k-30k a month from this so why would you ask them how and especially take their advice? My advice is use the magic of #'s. Think a modest conversion rate of 3%. Lets use a commission of $20. You would need 25,000 visitors/month to make $15,000/month.

Focus on getting 25,000. And none of this AdSense BS because you would need millions of page views to get over $10,000K. If you want to be paid $5 an hour, then be my guest and do adsense. You're better off working at McDonalds if that is the case

Focus on your own product, how get working with CPA offers.

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DoubleIT

12 years ago

It's still possible to achieve few thousands with adsense. But to make money purely from adsense, you'll need lots of contents, and you need to add on it continously. Advisable to split up your earnings with multiple accounts too, coz google implementations in the search algorithms or the ban hammer can just squash you anyime - without warning. I have adsense as part of my IM portfolio as it's never a good idea to focus all your business in one area.

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ttdub

12 years ago

I didn't make my first $1 until months of marketing. You're doing great! Just don't quit. IM takes a ton of time and patience.

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nohypo

12 years ago

i think this is not so high rate.keep going...

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Curtis2011

12 years ago

Originally Posted by andrew2000

Questions:

What should I do next? Amazon, Click Bank or CPA/PPC or something else?
Any trainings/tools should I buy next? Thinking to do one of CPA couching below, any thought?

Thanks for your thought

Andrew

My advice: Immediately join Amazon affiliate program and put affiliate links on your website to any products on Amazon that are potentially related to the topic of your website. This should be easy to do because Amazon sells just about everything that exists.

Since your website already has some traffic, and since you can update it with these links in a single day, you could potentially increase your earnings by tomorrow by doing this (it depends if anyone buys the products or not but it doesn't hurt to try!).

All you have to do is change text that is already on your page into links to Amazon pages. You don't even need to build new content pages to start implementing this.

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Sample1

12 years ago

okay andrew... try this . take those articles of your's and convert them into documents and share in document sharing sites, scribd.com gets aroung 60 million hits a month. There are many more . Just google them.

Use powerpoint with any sound loop and create videos . upload on many video sharing sites.

Do your SEO THING (yeah I don't know much about that) along with sharing for related backlinks.

Bookmark everything

try moving onto affiliate marketing since you are using free traffic methods use a cost per sale model.Try selling recurring affiliate products from clickbank. These vendors have good affiliate resources also

Hopefully this will help

And you can always try to scale up this.
RE-INVEST some of your profits, build a list, get paid traffic (not ppc),
Start using landing pages, use upsells with cpa or affiliate offers, cross promote offers

Millions of tweaks you can do. If you need more blueprint like this let me know

All the Best and Keep it up. Believe it or not you are succeeding

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lotsofsnow

12 years ago

Continue what you are doing and you will be broke soon.

"Scrapebox,10 proxies from Proxy for rent, Multispinner (free)"

That sounds like some spam tools. They can keep you busy for a while but making money: well, not exactly possible. Short term maybe but long term for sure not.

"Thinking to buy Market Samurai,"

That will keep you busy (and broke) for another while.

Why don't you simply find out what people want and need and offer that? It is easier then you think.

You do not need all those complicated "tools".

Also: "monitizing using adsense"
That's not a good combination of words. Putting "monetize" next to Adsense. It monetizes your site for Google but on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the worst payout for you it ranges at 1.

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ryanmilligan

Banned 12 years ago

If you are looking for 100k/month with adsensse you are going to need about 1000 sites making 100 dollars a month.

That is going to take sometime. Although it's possible. It's without a doubt not the best business module I can think of.

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sloanjim

12 years ago

LOL sorry mate but you biggest problem was believing those WSO's in the 1st place...Sorry. Yeah I too feel like you these days....I need to switch this thing off and go into "real" business.

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sloanjim

12 years ago

HUGE, HUGE flaw......when G, slaps and changes you will have to re start. It's not worth it.

If you are looking for 100k/month with adsensse you are going to need about 1000 sites making 100 dollars a month.

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AfteraDream

12 years ago

Originally Posted by sloanjim

HUGE, HUGE flaw......when G, slaps and changes you will have to re start. It's not worth it.

G can SLAP ANY SITE! Not just AdSense site... same for affiliates or other ones. Probably you haven't tried AdSense even... if you did you'd know that there are sites that can make $1/day and those that make $30/day and more.. you just gotta work at it!

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andrew2000

12 years ago

Thanks everyone...let's me summarize the responses,

Stick with adsense until you're good at it.You might need to have 4 or 5 sites until you hit a winner that makes you a couple hundred or more each month. By doing this you'll learn what keywords to target and get better at onsite and off-site SEO.

I believe scalability is the main issue with adsense and also low earning per click.
I think I can reach $10 per day and having 10 websites, so about $100 per day, $3,000 per month.
Then slowly convert the monetizing part from adsense to something else that is more profitable

What are your strengths? What are you knowledgeable at and good at? What are your passions? Can you monetize them? You need to find a way to add value to the marketplace and then you can be paid very nicely for it.

My strength is software development and algorithm, I have been paid ridicoulusly high, but by hours + some bonus. I don't like long hours and stressful work as a software developer.
Down the track, I may be able to monetized these skills, I have to get my hand dirty first to understand the market. I want to work less hours and get paid much more, not by hours.

if you buy this WSO or product and sign up for multiple memberships and training. You're on a good path. Don't mess yourself up by trying to do everything at once. That's the worst mistake many new marketers make.

I am very selective when buying WSOs. Not so much for the money, as the cost of WSOs is quite cheap relative to the money I put aside for this Internet Marketing business. I am more concious about my time reading useless WSOs.

$30/month after 7 wks is already very good. You are going way ahead than most people. You cannot be expecting to earn $5k/mth after just a few weeks. You're putting unnecessary pressure on yourself.

Hey Andrew, $30 a month is GREAT for somebody thats new in IM - it took me a bit longer than that to earn a single dollar online - lol. Keep it up, but dont plan or expect to start making $5k a month in just a month or two. :-)

To be fair, my background is computer science, so I know most of internet technology such as HTML, CSS, XML, PHP, MySQL. So I do not need to learn these stuffs, that speed me up a bit compare to most people.

As far as diversifying your income that is advice you are considering way to early in the equation but you'll get there. Relying on GOOGLE as your main source of income is for sure a risky thing to do since one Algorithym change has made peoples income disappear overnight. So please if Adsense is your thing please make sure you settle for nothing less than quality content on medium to large authority type sites to ground yourself as best as you can.

Adsense will be my first project only, I may scale it up to max 10 websites. Then I move to another project.

You will be amazed how sales suddenly start to increase once you hit the top 3 spots in Google.

Looking forward to go up a few more spots.

Dude don't listen to these people. 90% make no where near 5k-30k a month from this so why would you ask them how and especially take their advice? My advice is use the magic of #'s. Think a modest conversion rate of 3%. Lets use a commission of $20. You would need 25,000 visitors/month to make $15,000/month.
Focus on getting 25,000. And none of this AdSense BS because you would need millions of page views to get over $10,000K. If you want to be paid $5 an hour, then be my guest and do adsense. You're better off working at McDonalds if that is the case Focus on your own product, how get working with CPA offers.

Yes, that is the purpose of this thread. To brainstorm, so I can gauge how much is the limit of adsense, where I should stop scaling it up
and move to something else, like CPA and own products.

It's still possible to achieve few thousands with adsense. But to make money purely from adsense, you'll need lots of contents, and you need to add on it continously. Advisable to split up your earnings with multiple accounts too, coz google implementations in the search algorithms or the ban hammer can just squash you anyime - without warning. I have adsense as part of my IM portfolio as it's never a good idea to focus all your business in one area.

Also: "monitizing using adsense" That's not a good combination of words. Putting "monetize" next to Adsense. It monetizes your site for Google but on a scale from 1 to 10 with 1 being the worst payout for you it ranges at 1.

That is going to take sometime. Although it's possible. It's without a doubt not the best business module I can think of.

Yes, adsense just my first project, after it hit the scalability limit. I will leave it for maintenance only. Just to keep it alive or convert it to something more profitable, CPA probably or my own products.

My advice: Immediately join Amazon affiliate program and put affiliate links on your website to any products on Amazon that are potentially related to the topic of your website. This should be easy to do because Amazon sells just about everything that exists.

Thanks, smooth transition, will do this and see how it goes

okay andrew... try this . take those articles of your's and convert them into documents and share in document sharing sites, scribd.com gets aroung 60 million hits a month. There are many more . Just google them.
Use powerpoint with any sound loop and create videos . upload on many video sharing sites.
Do your SEO THING (yeah I don't know much about that) along with sharing for related backlinks.
Bookmark everything
try moving onto affiliate marketing since you are using free traffic methods use a cost per sale model.Try selling recurring affiliate products from clickbank. These vendors have good affiliate resources also
Hopefully this will help
And you can always try to scale up this.
RE-INVEST some of your profits, build a list, get paid traffic (not ppc),
Start using landing pages, use upsells with cpa or affiliate offers, cross promote offers
Millions of tweaks you can do. If you need more blueprint like this let me know
All the Best and Keep it up. Believe it or not you are succeeding

document sharing, video sharing, SEO, bookmark submission, affiliate, build list, paid traffic (Not PPC)
landing page, upsells CPA, cross promote.....lol alot of things to do, thanks. I will assign priority to these
and will do them in that order

LOL sorry mate but you biggest problem was believing those WSO's in the 1st place...Sorry. Yeah I too feel like you these days....I need to switch this thing off and go into "real" business.

The more I dive in and understand about the market and the people, I understand that I have to be very selective and read the WSOs carefully by always remembering common sense.
I always asked myself, "if this WSO is working so well, why dont they just exploit this method/strategy by themselves?"
Why are they sharing this WSO "do they reach the scalability limit?, so they can not scale it up by themselves".

Why do people insist on methods that produce small amounts of income?
Do you really think Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or even I work 400 hours a day?
Choosing the right business model can't be that hard...

Yes, I do believe adsense is not the best business models. I am exploring what would be other business models in Internet Marketing.

My main income is from developing software, although I get paid by hours, not a good jobs. I want to work less hours and earn more money. I also invest in automated algorithmic trading and real estates.

My steps in Internet Marketing

1. optimize - tweak it to make this part work better, e.g. the traffic generation part
2. automate as much as possible
3. outsource, if cannot be automated
4. integrate, put all components of the blueprint together, e.g.
infrastructure: hosting, domain, Word Press, plug in etc...
content, high quality outsource
traffics, online, offline SEO, explore all methods
selling, monitor/track conversion, split test etc...
5. innovate, think outside the box, something that able to create a new market

So let me get this straight...
You want to earn $100,000 a month, and you've spent $32.24 on WSO's.

Not want, but wish. Well, I am expecting $5K/month and wishing/dreaming $100K/month. I am investing my money and time carefully (e.g. only selectively buy WSOs), always thinking about return of investment (money+time). I have put aside $20K for IM.

To pull in $5000 on Adsense you need to do some seriously hard work. Two years in and I'm still on around $1200 a month.

Ok, so this is sort of the limit of scalability of adsense

I see guys making 15k a month on it with about 200 sites. Some with less.

With the same adsense account? too risky I think

And I'd suggest you buy sites from people who make them here on WF or outsource the tech part and focus on keyword research and finding more was to monetize sites, like maybe direct advertising sales, text links, affiliate offers.

I think making websites can be automated, I am going to outsource my contents and backlinks.
And may be start with some paid traffics.

Thank you everyone

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LBspeaks

12 years ago

Why do people insist on methods that produce small amounts of income?

Do you really think Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or even I work 400 hours a day?

Choosing the right business model can't be that hard...

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12 years ago

Originally Posted by LBspeaks

Why do people insist on methods that produce small amounts of income?

Do you really think Bill Gates or Warren Buffet or even I work 400 hours a day?

Choosing the right business model can't be that hard...

Probably because they are the easiest methods to implement.

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12 years ago

So let me get this straight...

You want to earn $100,000 a month, and you've spent $32.24 on WSO's.

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brettb

12 years ago

I've got a few 1-2 year old AdSense sites pulling in $200+ a month. But these have taken 250 quality articles plus original media content.

To pull in $5000 on Adsense you need to do some seriously hard work. Two years in and I'm still on around $1200 a month.

Sure you can cheat with backlinks and stuff, but eventually you'll be slapped down - I saw it time and time again on the TKA forum.

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AfteraDream

12 years ago

I'm at the same level at you Andrew. Started Adsense sites couple of months ago. Doing about the same. Only one of 5 sites is earning money so far constantly as it ranks well and has good CPC. If I'll rank two more sites, bigger ones, than my income should be bigger by couple of times in a few months. From there it's just rinse and repeat.. AdSense sites is numbers game... I see guys making 15k a month on it with about 200 sites. Some with less.

Good thing about AdSense sites is you can sell them for some instant capital and then reinvest it. I'd say you could build up a site to about 100 bucks/month and sell it. That should be about 2k for it and then you can build multiple sites for that money.

And I'd suggest you buy sites from people who make them here on WF or outsource the tech part and focus on keyword research and finding more was to monetize sites, like maybe direct advertising sales, text links, affiliate offers.

Don't branch out too much tho...

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AfteraDream

12 years ago

You can have multiple AdSense accounts, one personal, and for business. People do it, I'm not there yet so I dont worry about it. Here is an example, guy makes 15k a month from AdSense - Niche Pursuits | Find Business Ideas, Niche Websites, and Much More!. 200+ sites. Some sites make 1000+ a month, some make 100's, some make 10bucks. You gotta get good at keyword research basically. Content is easy, backlinks take a bit of time.

And you can scale this AdSense business easily. Maintenance is not that hard, but boring. Still, it's really passive as you wake up and see money in your account already.. there many success stories in AdSense, it's not better or worse than any other business model. Esp. if you count that you invest $100 into a site and then you have $30/month income stream. That's $200 of profit in a year. And that's with site making $1 a day. If you can build one that makes $100 a month that's $1000 of profit. With little maintenance and NO customer service which you would do if you had your own product (best monetization, yeah, but lots of work)..

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erob

12 years ago

I think you are doing very well to get 40-50 people a day with seven weeks of work. You say that this is a niche site so I would try to add some type of lead capture to the site to capture leads from your visit. This way you have the ability to market to your visitors over and over again. My advice on the amazon or clickbank thing is, what is the niche about is it a physical product that amazon sells then you would us amazon.
If it is mostly a digital information niche then go with clickbank.

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YasirYar

12 years ago

Your start is good and if you keep doing what you are doing I'm sure you'll improve your earnings. Stay with Adsense for a while and then go for other advertizing options as and when your SERP improves. That is when you drop out Adsense. But for starters stick with Adsense.

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paulie123

12 years ago

You are doing fine andrew2000. We live in a very impatient culture and everyone wants everything yesterday and are intolerant of anything else happening. People forget...Sometimes, good things take time! Peace

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J Bold

12 years ago

I would either...

a. Use what experience and knowledge I have with my first site, make another site based on the same model

or

b. Find other ways to monetize my site and see if I can make more money with what I already have on that site right now.

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Randall Magwood

12 years ago

I don't think you have to invest money into any more courses. Simply duplicate what you did to earn the $30/month income over and over again. If you dont want to create products, go to Clickbank and find some relevant courses there to promote.

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bitriot 12 years ago

The trick with adsense is that once you get to a critical mass of about $200 profit per month, you can start outsourcing everything (content, links, setup - though I always set up my own blogs) and begin efficiently scaling out your adsense business.

I agree with everyone here that there are many viable business models and it is good to diversify, but I have to wonder if those people talking down adsense have ever had any adsense success? It is by far the easiest way to jump into the Internet Marketing game.

Having a few different 10 page sites that each pull in a few hundred each month is nothing to sniff at.
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JohnJorbins

12 years ago

Been in IM since the 90's. I do have to say that I have had one site reach $16,000 per month on adsense alone. That was back in 2005 when adsense was fairly new yet, weren't targeted by ad blockers as they are now, ads were not as localized (better fitted for the content and not user behavior), etc.

There was a lot less competition to deal with building up the site between 1999 -2005. Most average internet users can start a site/blog with ease now as there are many platforms that can be used and customized with a few steps. Pretty much everyone and their pet rat has a website now.

Back then Google was much easier to rank in plus there were a lot less authority and mega sites locked into top positions for competitive keywords. Top it off with all the Google services not taking over page 1 results.

This site was an all inclusive site that was covering a wide spread of topics. From general terms to tight niches. Now it is real hard if not impossible for a site like that to get going.

After that site and all the changes to the internet even I am forced to go after tight niches with the rest of y'all. The scraps of what the big dogs aren't interested in actively targeting since the traffic isn't there enough to warrant putting their top dollar resources to work for them. Except for incidental passive mentions in their content.

What I am saying is that the hopes for a mega site that pulls in the 500,000-1,000,000 visitors necessary to make even 5 figures of adsense income is not impossible but highly unlikely to do it with one site. It would take years and years to do (6 for that site when the getting was good).

With a tight niche with limited traffic possibilities you need to keep it realistic. You need to keep at the site until you exhaust traffic potential. In other words when your work for traffic reaches diminishing returns. While doing that you need to work on maximizing income. Adsense as passive income and affiliates, direct advertisers, etc. as other possible income streams. By the time you hit your diminishing returns you should have other streams tested for maximum returns. Then you go into maintenance mode.

Keep in mind you probably won't make a $100,000 per month off the site (unless you are lucky and you got into a booming niche) but you can take those returns you do get and reinvest. Start other sites and learn to outsource with your profits as you test other niches. Those that look worth your time you can then start the maximizing process over. Rinse and repeat.

Now this is if you want your business to be the creation of sites that make you an income. You may run across a booming niche opportunity or you get creative and START a niche in which the site you build will become and authority brand. A business if you will. Such sites require a bit more loving and caring. But that is another discussion all together.

From what I can tell is that you are more of creating income streams through IM than building a rock solid internet business brand. But always keep an eye out for the opportunity. These internet brands tends to be where the huge money is made.

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Gerald Arno

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by andrew2000

Hi everyone,

So far after 7 weeks doing IM, I made a niche website, with EMD, one 1,000 words article + ten 200 words articles. 40-50 visitors per day, about $1 adsense earning per day. I build backlink manually using scrapebox. That is $30/month far below my expectation $5000/month, let alone my dream $100K/month.

I bought 3 WSOs so far (I am very selective),

So far I have,
- Ultimate Niche Finder by Clyde
- Scrapebox
- 10 proxies from Proxy for rent
- Multispinner (free)

Thinking to buy Market Samurai, however it is too slow, any good alternatives? I will buy Aweber and Chris Farrell membership tonight, will check it for 7 days, if any good I will keep the membership. Next month, I will buy TrafficGrab.

So far I only monitizing using adsense. It seems, it is very hard to scale up adsense business. I will expand & maintain my EMD niche website, keep dripping backlink + more article etc....probably outsource this with velocity drip.

While doing the maintainance of my EMD above, I want to do something else. Contemplating to do either Amazon affiliate, Click bank affiliate, or to join CPA networks.

Questions:

What should I do next? Amazon, Click Bank or CPA/PPC or something else?
Any trainings/tools should I buy next? Thinking to do one of CPA couching below, any thought?

Thanks for your thought

Andrew

If you are making $30 per day with Adsense, you are doing not too bad.

You still need to review your work and system to see where you can improve, what you should change, and what you should keep.

Make sure to check the following points:

-Are yo choosing the right keywords for your website? Everything starts with keyword/niche selection.

-Is your Adsense site set up conducive for people to click?

-I saw that you mentioned that you have internal pages with 200 word each. You should make sure that you have articles that are at least 500 word each.

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JohnJorbins

12 years ago

BTW - in seven weeks making $30 per month isn't bad at all. You can also try test different add layouts, image only ads vs. text ads, link units, and even colors. I have been with adsense when it first started. Let me tell you that color can impact your ad performance. Either you can run the links on the ads the same as your site to blend, choose stop colors, contrasting colors to your site's links, complimentary colors, and my favorite color progressions.

Borders can inhibit eye movement. It separates the ad from the flow of content. I tend not to use a border in most cases. I usually use the borders in my site design. An example would be in the site navigation.

Stop colors catches a person's eye and mental focus. Usually a color that typically means caution or stop (think stop sign red). You can use an ad color that has a pop to a visitor's eye but have absolutely nothing in common with any color on the site. Bright pink on a dominant yellow site - yet it can make a site look cheap and unprofessional.

Complimentary colors blend the ads with the site and tend be harmonious. Hard to differentiate between ad and regular link.

Contrasting colors are also harmonious as it goes with the color theme of the site. Use one color for the site design and site links and then use it's complimentary color for the links in your ad units. Doing that also has a pop a visitor's eye. It helps catch and stop eye movement because their brain needs just a bit more time to focus as it is interrupted from the flow of the site.

Color progressions is very difficult and my personal favorite. What you do is progress the colors of your site design and even your links to where it leads towards your ads. So the flow of the design and progression of colors (usually light to dark) leads the eye towards the ads. The ads contain the dominant color.

Shouldn't be hard to double your income with a bit of testing.

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auris

12 years ago

I think it's horses for courses - Adsense does very well for me & out of the 10 sites only 1 is really a performer in terms of Adsense.

So while I do well as an Adsense publisher I suck at affiliate marketing - only a few bucks from Amazon & really struggle to make $400 a month with ClickBank.

In conclusion i think if you want to do well with Adsense get a hot niche that is geo targeted & optimized and you may stand a chance of making something out of it.

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ninal

12 years ago

I think you're actually doing great. Took me more than 3 WSOs, a number of tools (which I no longer use), and about 10 domains to even start seeing income. I'm guessing you're more focused than majority of the people who are starting out and your ability to withhold from buying tons of WSOs is commendable.

If you have the time, maybe you can try exploring amazon or cpa as well. I started with adsense but didn't have much luck until I focused on amazon sites. It's all about finding which one works best for you.

I started making more money when I stopped buying tools and WSOs. I think you already have what you need to make money, just explore new tools and techniques once you have a system in place. And don't fall into the cycle of trying to find the magic bullet (took me a while to get out of that one).

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ahmad961

12 years ago

I'd say do a few more websites by replicating the process that made you earn 30$/month.

Once you start to earn around 200 a month then move to another business model.

In my opinion don't start something and then move to the next "Best new way to make money online" because if you do that you will spread yourself too thin and end up with a bunch of half finished plans that are not making you any decent amount of money.

You are off to a good start so don't be too hard on yourself

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peptone

12 years ago

You are doing pretty well already with Adsense. Best to stick at that for now and create more sites and get really good at that before moving on to other things.

Then you could create your own product, in a niche that you're interested in, build up a website and create better products that are more expensive and get some affiliates.

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andrew2000

12 years ago

Just to summarise some comments, for my future reference

get SEMrush for keyword research instead of Market Samurai (slow and buggy)
$200 profit per month, you can start outsourcing

Thanks for these recommendations

-Are yo choosing the right keywords for your website? Everything starts with keyword/niche selection.
-Is your Adsense site set up conducive for people to click?
-I saw that you mentioned that you have internal pages with 200 word each. You should make sure that you have articles that are at least 500 word each.

I will review my keywords again, doing more keywords research
I will look at a few free report on Adsens optimisation, placement, color etc
Yes, will put 500 words articles to replace the 200 ones.

Either you can run the links on the ads the same as your site to blend, choose stop colors, contrasting colors to your site's links, complimentary colors, and my favorite color progressions.
Use dominant color for ads

Agreed, I have not optimise the color yet.

I will continue doing Adsense for two more weeks, tweak a few things, add 500 words articles, think strategy to get more traffic: may be
youtube video.

I have 12 months to get $5,000, as I plan to quit my well paid but stressful job by then. Preferably, I can get $5,000/month within 6 months.

Thanks again everyone,

Andrew

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AfteraDream

12 years ago

Originally Posted by andrew2000

Just to summarise some comments, for my future reference

Thanks for these recommendations

I will review my keywords again, doing more keywords research
I will look at a few free report on Adsens optimisation, placement, color etc
Yes, will put 500 words articles to replace the 200 ones.

Agreed, I have not optimise the color yet.

I will continue doing Adsense for two more weeks, tweak a few things, add 500 words articles, think strategy to get more traffic: may be
youtube video.

I have 12 months to get $5,000, as I plan to quit my well paid but stressful job by then. Preferably, I can get $5,000/month within 6 months.

Thanks again everyone,

Andrew

Not much will happen in two weeks..launch more sites.. test different niches, different CPC and search volume ratios etc. Some sites will earn more even tho they receive less traffic than other one.

Def. use SEMRush to check out traffic and CPC stats. Try different link building packages too..

Good luck

P.S. High expectations wont help, so lower them a bit as you will lose motivation soon. Don't put that much pressure on yourself!

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123andyt

12 years ago

Andrew - you're a software developer as I understand it.

Now I know that not all software/languages are the same, but is there any piece of IM software you could develop as your own product using your existing skills and sell initially as a Warrior Special Offer?.. there are lots of possibilities out there..

Wordpress plugins (for instance) are huge on the Warrior Forum and you could sell as a WSO

Any type of keyword research tool which is reliable

Or website submitters of any kind... or article spinners

If successful you could put up on CLickbank or digiresults, recruit affiliates... just look at what people like Andrew Fletcher are doing for the possibilities

...... Just a suggestion ...

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andrew2000

12 years ago

Originally Posted by 123andyt

Andrew - you're a software developer as I understand it.

Now I know that not all software/languages are the same, but is there any piece of IM software you could develop as your own product using your existing skills and sell initially as a Warrior Special Offer?.. there are lots of possibilities out there..

Wordpress plugins (for instance) are huge on the Warrior Forum and you could sell as a WSO

Any type of keyword research tool which is reliable

Or website submitters of any kind... or article spinners

If successful you could put up on CLickbank or digiresults, recruit affiliates... just look at what people like Andrew Fletcher are doing for the possibilities

...... Just a suggestion ...

Thanks for your suggestion, may develop software after I understand more about this business. I need to understand what are the gap in the market and there are demand for the tool. Or I will need to think outside the box to create a new market.

Currently, I am thinking about an article summarisation tool with Artificial Intelligence capability.

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123andyt

12 years ago

Originally Posted by andrew2000

Thanks for your suggestion, may develop software after I understand more about this business. I need to understand what are the gap in the market and there are demand for the tool. Or I will need to think outside the box to create a new market.

Currently, I am thinking about an article summarisation tool with Artificial Intelligence capability.

That would be a great question to ask here on the forum ...

If you are looking to integrate some sort of AI then there are many article submitters that could be improved with automatic account validation and intelligent decaptcha software built in .... I would certainly look at such tool seriously...

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SeoKnightsInc

12 years ago

Hey man 30$/month in just 7 weeks are at least good enough then my adsense which get 400 daily unique visitors and reaches $ few times. Stick with it you are doing well.

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thedanbrown

12 years ago

Looks like you are on the right track Andrew. You shouldn't be too focused with buying different "all in 1" products because the truth is there are so many different ways to optimize your on-page and off-page seo. Just get really good at your strategies and then expand from there. Cheers

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terrencewan

12 years ago

Hey Dube,

You are doing very well indeed,
some have been working very hard
and have not reach your income yet
for a period of time,
I strongly suggest you stay onto
something that already brings you results,
and scale it up to get more.

Treat this as a real business,
it really require time, effort, money, etc.
to grow your business.

Stay Focus, be Consistent, and Persistent,
you will see results very soon.

Goodluck and takecare.
Terrence Wan

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