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Old 08-21-2008, 08:00 PM   #1
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Default The title you used sucks... and here is why...

That is not what I want to hear from others.

Here is my situation... I have an ebook being created and we are close to release.

BUT, I have no title or sub-title...

How do you decide how to title your newly created products.

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Old 08-21-2008, 08:16 PM   #2
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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

Think of something original and catchy, yet informative. Maybe have a fairly short title, but a catchy and slightly controversial subtitle. It's hard to make any suggestions since we don't know what the ebook is about. And I'm a newbie, so my advice not be too helpful anyway, lol.

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Old 08-21-2008, 08:53 PM   #3
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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

Hi Joe,

I can tell you a little about the kinds of 'triggers' in a headline that capture my interest, as a reader/prospective purchaser.

Here are some triggers for me:

> stuff with numbers: "The Top 10 Ways to..." , "The 7 Most Important Reasons Why..." etc.
> branded terms that are catchy, like Kevin Riley's "Recipes" - love that.
> Some other trigger words/phrases: "How to..." , "...Guide", "...Blueprint", etc.

Hope this helps!

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Old 08-21-2008, 08:59 PM   #4
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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

What's the topic?

If you don't want to divulge that, try taking a commonplace phrase and replace a component of it to pique interest. For example, 40-hour work week -> 4 hour work week.
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Old 08-21-2008, 08:59 PM   #5
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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

If possible use a repeating sound e.g. Coca Cola, M&Ms, Magic Marketing, Bed Bath and Beyond, Super Selling Secrets you get the idea.

A repeating sound sticks in people's brains better and it helps with the branding and word of mouth for your product. A lot of the big corps. use this trick to control our minds .

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Old 08-21-2008, 09:05 PM   #6
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Tim Ferris said in his book that he tested a few different titles before he came up with '4 Hour Work Week '. Try a few different titles on Adwords and see which one people respond to the best.

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Old 08-21-2008, 09:15 PM   #7
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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

Great ideas...

Everyone..

Thanks Kat, you confirmed my thoughts there.

adarwish, you have me thinking. I can see this being useful.

Mike, your right. Repeating sounds does play a factor and I can see it being used by many large corps.

Keep the ideals flowing everyone... your comments are very useful.

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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

Personally I work backwards.
Title comes first.
Otherwise what are you basing the book on?

Of course that's just my opinion - I could be wrong.
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Default Re: The title you used REIGNS... and here is why...

Focus on the Major BIG and ultimate benefit the person who buys your book will experience at some point in the future as a result of using the info you give them.

Remember, it's ALL about them.

Allen Says says (not redundant) to use the word "system" and it will allow you to charge even more for it because it's a system and you'll end up selling more of your system that way.

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Default Re: The title you used REIGNS... and here is why...

Personally, I don't like the numbers games, nor the guides as those are all over the place. Titles that stand out, and cause me to second guess something, now that is what gets me to read. Here is an example:

Is Your Diet Making You Fat?

This title would make me wonder if I am wasting my time by doing something that I believe to be very helpful to me.

BTW, I'm sure you could come up with something, you've already demonstrated your ability by the title you chose for this post. That's getting people to read. I wanted to know why my title sucked...or whatever title you were talking about. LOL

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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

Hey Joe,

What about quoting the best inspiring paragraph of the ebook as a title?

If you're really for PLR, you could offer realtime pdf compilation. The buyer's name and other info could be automatically included. It's instant gratification


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That is not what I want to hear from others.

Here is my situation... I have an ebook being created and we are close to release.

BUT, I have no title or sub-title...

How do you decide how to title your newly created products.

Thanks,
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PS... I am serious about this so I will reward the best and most helpful Warrior with a personal copy of the book.... With PLR rights...
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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

Thanks for the replys everyone...

Ted- I had what I wanted it about and an outline done when it was started. Now I need to decide on the title.

Doug- Thanks... my thoughts also

Dave- It worked, I wondered if the title would do that. Like the title you have I might try that for my next diet product article/book if you dont mind.

Hardi- Good thought on the paragraph idea. I am not sure how the realtime conversion. Are you familar with it.

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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

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Dave- It worked, I wondered if the title would do that. Like the title you have I might try that for my next diet product article/book if you dont mind.
Go for it. I had used that title for a video blog, but it got erased accidentally, and I've been unable to find the video I used.

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Thanks for the replys everyone...

Hardi- Good thought on the paragraph idea. I am not sure how the realtime conversion. Are you familar with it.

Thanks,
Joe
Joe,

I've an inhouse script. But you can it online. Google this "php pdf" without using the quote.


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Default Re: The title you used sucks... and here is why...

Controversial titles are great- my opinion anyway's.

Digital Art ---> The nice side of life.
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