High priced products for NON business & Marketing niches

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Hi Guys

Statement: The majority of higher priced info products can only typically be sold to business type niches and internet marketers, whereas niche products (fishing, diet, golf, etc etc) so only typically command an average max of $47..

....DISCUSS!! Do you agree with this or not, what is your argument for or againts, can you state any examples to support your point of view.

Many thanks
Phil

p.s - How to train your ferret for $1997 anybody, see what I mean??
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    I generally agree.

    But there are some niches that out-price IM, such as real estate or career-specific stuff.

    For example, if you are in an industry that requires you to retest every few years to keep your credentials, people will pay obscene prices to get that kind of information product and training -- because they want to keep working.

    I know someone in an industry like that -- offering pre-test materials for study to people in a particular industry.

    The price tag on the product is generally predicated by how much people want the information.

    Take for example a couple who have been having difficulties making a baby. Any information product in that niche worth its salt is probably pricey.

    Even in niches like curing cancer, info products can be really expensive.

    How bad prospects want the information will always determine what you can charge for the information.


    p.s. Unless you buy me the ferret and convince me that you can teach me how to make him talk, that product is worth little if anything. :p
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    • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      I generally agree.

      But there are some niches that out-price IM, such as real estate or career-specific stuff.

      For example, if you are in an industry that requires you to retest every few years to keep your credentials, people will pay obscene prices to get that kind of information product and training -- because they want to keep working.

      I know someone in an industry like that -- offering pre-test materials for study to people in a particular industry.

      The price tag on the product is generally predicated by how much people want the information.

      Take for example a couple who have been having difficulties making a baby. Any information product in that niche worth its salt is probably pricey.

      Even in niches like curing cancer, info products can be really expensive.

      How bad prospects want the information will always determine what you can charge for the information.


      p.s. Unless you buy me the ferret and convince me that you can teach me how to make him talk, that product is worth little if anything. :p
      Hi There

      Wow, great post. Yeah, I guess when it comes to health, you can't really put a price on that. I think the key point I take from your post is you could essentially charge what you want...as long as the product REALLY solves the problem. So, it needs to be a solid solution, rather than some 'ideas to try'.

      With career stuff, I guess you could say that the common thing with that is it would ultimately lead to making money down the line, same with real estate?

      Funny thing about the 'getting pregnant' niche, is there is a clickbank product that does very well, but I think(?) most people would rather go and get injected with something that will more likely guarantee results???

      Anyway, you've given me food for thought. Thanks for the input!!!

      Cheers
      Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author Andyhenry
    Yes, sorry Phil but (maybe intentionally) your comments are coming from a very limited mindset.

    Sure there are lots of cheap products in other niches but there are also massively increased prices too.

    Let's look at software. Most IM scripts and tools sell for no more than a few hundred dollars. Most businesses pay a LOT more than that for almost any piece of software. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars for a software solution that most IMers wouldn't pay $1k for.

    The issue isn't whether there are high ticket products elsewhere, it's whether you choose to focus on problems which the customer places a low value on or not.

    It's the pain felt from having the problem that drives the price not necessarily the niche.

    If you think paying $500 for something will ultimately get rid of a pain you feel $500 with, or that you'll make more than $500 back with then it can be a simple decision.

    There are a lot of industries where one good white paper positioned as an authoratitive piece of industry research can sell for a couple of thousand dollars with no problem at all.

    If you're a high tech company and desperate for information on where your target market are spending their money and in what volumes, you might not think twice about paying for access to that information.

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    • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
      Originally Posted by Andyhenry View Post

      Yes, sorry Phil but (maybe intentionally) your comments are coming from a very limited mindset.

      Sure there are lots of cheap products in other niches but there are also massively increased prices too.

      Let's look at software. Most IM scripts and tools sell for no more than a few hundred dollars. Most businesses pay a LOT more than that for almost any piece of software. We're talking hundreds of thousands of dollars for a software solution that most IMers wouldn't pay $1k for.

      The issue isn't whether there are high ticket products elsewhere, it's whether you choose to focus on problems which the customer places a low value on or not.

      It's the pain felt from having the problem that drives the price not necessarily the niche.

      If you think paying $500 for something will ultimately get rid of a pain you feel $500 with, or that you'll make more than $500 back with then it can be a simple decision.

      There are a lot of industries where one good white paper positioned as an authoratitive piece of industry research can sell for a couple of thousand dollars with no problem at all.

      If you're a high tech company and desperate for information on where your target market are spending their money and in what volumes, you might not think twice about paying for access to that information.

      Andy
      Hi Andy - aka, the Phil Wheatley Helpdesk lol :-)

      To some degree, the limited mindset you mentioned is not intentional, as I have a bit of difficulty thinking away from the usual niches to see everywhere.

      It is a good point about software, if it solves the problem, and either saves the company, or makes them money, then companies will pay any amounts. Interesting though, that again doesn't that relate to 'making money'?

      To be honest, I wish I was at a point where I could just instruct programmers to make a kick a$$ pirce of software, as I think there would be a lot less 'convincing' invloved with the sales process, again as long as it does what it claims.

      The other thing you mentioned about research, I know there are companies who will pay thousands for one document. But of course, I guess the man hours gone into the research not only justifies the tag, will again, make that company money, but unfortuantely would make it something very difficult for me to produce....hmmmm, maybe JV opportunities though???

      Anyway, again, some great points and is getting my remaining brain cell some good exercise.

      Cheers
      Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy Fletcher
    University courses (college courses in the US) are high priced info products for just about any nice and hardly any of them are marketing.

    People pay based on the perceived value they are going to get from it.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by phil.wheatley View Post

    p.s - How to train your ferret for $1997 anybody, see what I mean??
    I see exactly what you mean.

    Ferret-training is perhaps a low-priced niche.

    There are other, high-priced niches, which have nothing to do with business management or internet marketing, in which there are five-figure products marketed online.

    Someone remind me: what do those Anthony Robbins courses change hands for? All those private jet charters? All those African safari-park holidays? All those glittery watches for glitter-chicks? All those home extensions and gazebos? All those resort healthcare plans, and the "foreign vacations/travel including maxillofacial and cosmetic surgery" packages?

    There are some information products, too: plenty of self-improvement ones on ClickBank and in similar places, for several hundred dollars, anyway. I suspect not so much for the infertility niche, though it's just the sort of area in which "desperate buyers" might pay very high prices.

    I recommend this e-book (it was one of the very first things I ever bought online, and one of the best): http://desperatebuyersonly.com/
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    • Profile picture of the author phil.wheatley
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      I see exactly what you mean.



      Someone remind me: what do those Anthony Robbins courses change hands for? All those private jet charters? All those African safari-park holidays? All those glittery watches for glitter-chicks? All those home extensions and gazebos? All those resort healthcare plans, and the "foreign vacations/travel including maxillofacial and cosmetic surgery" packages?
      Hey Alexa

      I love your tagline in your sig, I've heard you're sh1t hot at copy!!

      Yeah, I totally get the thing about high priced physical products, packahe holidays, and so on. It's more info products I wanted to concentrate on, however, I guess the guides could be about the things you mentioned above.

      Hey, thanks for the link, I think I may have heard about that one somewhere, but I will look at it again now as it sounds like a winner, it's obviously worked for you! Thanks for your input.

      Cheers
      Phil
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  • Profile picture of the author BurtL
    I'm not sure if this is any way connected, but I recently created a new product/account at clickbank. Priced at $147 but was denied at first they said only new accounts can can start off at $50 until there's a history of good sales, low refund rates then they would bump it up. But that was waived anyways since this I wasn't new to CB and linked it to my other accounts.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Ooh, they've changed that too, then (they used to say $100 for "first products").

      But there are plenty of higher-priced products there, too: as you say, if you're a known and acceptable vendor (i.e. known to them), then they don't mind any more ...
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  • Profile picture of the author jgant
    Look in your backyard and work with local businesses who are willing to spend a lot of money on new clients.

    Custom home builders, realtors, lawyers, dentists, etc. There are dozens of industries where businesses will pay handsomely for a new client/patient/customer.

    These businesses won't have an affiliate program of course; however, you can enter into an exclusive deal with them earning huge referral commissions.

    This is my latest venture and it's working well. There are too many opportunities in my home town (and I suspect yours). I've started with 3 businesses and could add more any time (I want to fully ramp up what I have on my plate first before expanding). Once you have one happy client, getting more isn't hard.

    Moreover, ranking in the search engines locally isn't too hard. There are tons of keywords not being used. Most businesses go for the same keywords (then give up and pay for Adwords). With a little keyword research you can find tons of great local keywords with pretty much no competition at the local level.

    Anyway, this model requires a little effort in securing a client, but once you do, the revenue flows fairly quickly. If your commissions are high enough, use Adwords as well as SEO. I do both and it works.
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