How reasonable is $1500 in 20 days

[mrsteady]

Hi folks hows everyone doing?

I know the warrior forum gets flooded with these types of post but I find myself in quite the pickle at the moment.

As you guessed it from the title of my thread I am in urgent need of said amount of money.

I have given up on obtaining this through marketing as I believe 20 days is just not enough time to start marketing, applying to aff companies etc, making sales and collecting the cash. Instead I have decided doing online work such as content creation etc. is the best way to achieve this.

I'm no stranger to hard work and I know 1500 in twenty days outsourcing is going to be a lot of hard work.

What my real question is though is how to get some work. I posted a thread offering my services at DP but haven't had a single response yet. Do any of you warriors have any ideas how I can improve sales pick up of my outsourcing skills. Please keep comments and tips to the free variety as I don't have the capitol required to write a WSO or classified.

Thanks a lot during my hard times.

Mr(notso)Steady

[Mike Morgan.]

First show everybody your skills and knowledge by sharing valuable posts .

mike

[VegasGreg]

If you don't get any takers for custom articles to get you started, just start writing article in a hot niche anyway. Once you have several article you can sell them in packs of 5-10 at DP if they are reasonably priced and somewhat decent quality.

The key is don't wait for order, start writing now.

Pick a hot topic like travel, health,weightloss,credit,finances...etc.

[Bryan Zimmerman]

Post a thread in the classifieds offering your services for article writing or content creation but put a price tag on it. Put the $ figure in the subject title and you'll probably get some responses. People are always looking for article writers.

Have a couple previous written articles for a example of work. Offer to do a discount for large packets. You can get $1500.00 no problem if your ready to work.

[Traffic-Bug]

Put a WSO? Try freelancer sites and register yourself there? use PPC to advertise your services? Create a home page or site and put it in your sig?

[mrsteady]

Thanks Mike for your answer. That is a great response. I would love for everyone to be able to appreciate me more by doing that but at the moment I don not have a huge amount of knowledge in the IM business.

I could rattle on about analysis or abstract algebra (I done my degree in mathematical studies) but I'm just not sure that would be to everyone's fancy or benefit.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

[Ray Erdmann]

What type of services do you offer?

Graphic Design?
Article Writing?
Website Design?

If so, are you providing any type of portfolio of previous work on these specific threads where you've asked someone to hire you, in order for them to see how good you are?

If not, I would suggest that first, as that should help to increase the chances of you being taken seriously and hired to do a job.

Just my $0.02 is all!


Ray

EDIT: I just noticed your sig...so scratch what I just asked above...DOH! Good luck w/taking the already given advice! :-)

[mrsteady]

Thanks a lot for all the responses guys. There is some really great suggestions there. A lot of them though included spending money to advertise my service and as I mentioned in the OP I just don't have the money to spend on advertising.

Keep the suggestions coming though I'm getting ideas from these.

[mrsteady]

Hi Ray thanks for the advice.

Yes at digital point I spent a long time writing the copy for my ad. I included a call to action if a prospective customer wanted samples of my previous work and I believe I had put together a package that offered real value for money.

I had thought of putting a site design package together but I thought that would be even harder than getting customers for article content.

[Kamran]

Well, there is a section in the warriorforum where you can advertise yourself as a writer without paying anything. Just go through some of the offers in the "warriors for hire" section, and make a better offer, one that people cannot reject.

[mrsteady]

Wow kamran I didn't know that.

Thank you very very much.

**edit just read the sticky in the 'warrior for hire' thread and their is a fee to pay.

[freddie_fireman]

You can earn $2-$4 submitting articles to Associated Content - associatedcontent.com

So you can earn while you build your portfolio.

Start a blog here at WF documenting your consistent high production rate, and pointing to your AC articles. You'll soon be getting custom orders.

If you can write magazine quality articles, consider Constant Content - Website Content, Order Articles

Write on these topics:
+ product reviews (esp. latest gadgets, latest video games)
+ finance (forex, debt management, avoiding bankruptcy)
+ computers (antivirus, data recovery, anti-phishing)
+ health & fitness (weight loss, acne, diabetes, hair loss)

Good luck!

[mrsteady]

Hi Freddie thanks for the tips. I know I have a very high command of both written and spoken English and I am prepared to work for less than the minimum wage in my country (one of the highest in the world) but writing an article for $2 just seems crazy to me. then again if its income its income and I may resort to it.

To be honest I would much rather write a well paid article that needs to be very high quality, I will check out the second link you gave me.

It seems crazy in these days that a university graduate who was expecting to walk into a job when finished university is living so close to the poverty line and working for less than the minimum wage online.

[mrsteady]

I have made an account with associated content and am going to start submitting content. Ill report back if its an earner or not.

edit* Just a quick question for maximizing the chances that my articles are sold. Is it better to heavily market a product the article may be based around or to just provide a very informative, objective article?

[mrsteady]

Hi Sarah, thanks for commenting in my thread. I understood Mikes advice and took it to heart. I do try to contribute to this forum by sharing ideas and knowledge, you could even say by the ideas generated by this thread I was doing just that.

I was also asking for contributions from members so maybe you should take Mikes advice and contribute more than just a quote and two words yourself.

I'm not trying to insult you I just believe your post was highly hypocritical that's all.

[freddie_fireman]

Originally Posted by mrsteady

writing an article for $2 just seems crazy to me

It is. You should work diligently to move up the food chain. E.g., see Steve Crook's thread: http://www.warriorforum.com/adsense-...-new-post.html

Originally Posted by mrsteady

To be honest I would much rather write a well paid article that needs to be very high quality, I will check out the second link you gave me.

The problem here is the 20 day timeframe. You will need to spend some time researching the hottest possible topics. E.g., hit St. Valentine's Day (Feb 14) from every possible angle for the next 72 hours.

Originally Posted by mrsteady

It seems crazy in these days that a university graduate who was expecting to walk into a job when finished university is living so close to the poverty line and working for less than the minimum wage online.

Math teachers are in high demand in the US. Consider emigrating.

[Johnathan]

Start article writing.

I did it as an experiment (no previous article writing experience for this type of writing), and "made" about $900. That was last month (January). Now, it wasn't necessarily a sexy amount for the time and effort I put in (I think my effective 'hourly' rate was about $11/hour), but I did it.

Originally Posted by mrsteady

Hi folks hows everyone doing?

I know the warrior forum gets flooded with these types of post but I find myself in quite the pickle at the moment.

As you guessed it from the title of my thread I am in urgent need of said amount of money.

I have given up on obtaining this through marketing as I believe 20 days is just not enough time to start marketing, applying to aff companies etc, making sales and collecting the cash. Instead I have decided doing online work such as content creation etc. is the best way to achieve this.

I'm no stranger to hard work and I know 1500 in twenty days outsourcing is going to be a lot of hard work.

What my real question is though is how to get some work. I posted a thread offering my services at DP but haven't had a single response yet. Do any of you warriors have any ideas how I can improve sales pick up of my outsourcing skills. Please keep comments and tips to the free variety as I don't have the capitol required to write a WSO or classified.

Thanks a lot during my hard times.

Mr(notso)Steady

[mrsteady]

Freddie again that is absolutely brilliant advice. I just submitted my first article to associated content but I am going to concentrate exclusively on valentines day content for the next few days.

Would you recommend submitting this to associated content or selling it as a plr package.

Again thank you so much you have contributed a lot to my thread (and I know these pesky threads spring up daily but I am trying to make a contribution with mine).

[mrsteady]

hey johnahon can you share with me some methods on how you got cusomers.

[teenmoney]

I would go to a site like elance, getafreelancer, rentacoder and craigslist to look for work. There are hundreds of people looking for a good article writer. Or just look around here and DigitalPoint. Warrior Forum and DP are full of people doing article marketing and niche marketing who are looking for writing work.

If you are that good of a writer don't waste time on AC. It doesn't pay nearly as well as it used to and you should be able to get at least $4-$5 per article at any of the above sites.

[mrsteady]

Hi guys,

Thanks for all the replies. I'm not really looking to outsource anything I am doing. I am looking to do some honest work that I will get guaranteed pay for. But thanks for the suggestions I'm considering them all while trying to get this article gig started full time.

[LB]

I'm not trying to be a jerk...just wanted to point out that your posts have some grammar and spelling errors.

Mine do too, as well as most of us here...but when you're advertising writing services you need to triple check your posts so you look sharp.

I would not hire a writer without attention to detail that forgot letters or did not know how to use apostrophes to show possession.

Just a helpful thought if you're positioning yourself as a writer.

[mrsteady]

Hi LB I get this every thread I ever start someone comes along and criticizes my grammar and typos. That is why everyone in this day and age uses a spell checker. I even have a spell checker in my firefox but I am sure it is not as good as the one in MS Word.

Anyway thanks for your input, it is duly noted.

Also please reference my missing letters to prove your point?

[PeterDudek]

Do you have and know how to use an Adwords account?

1. If so, open your Yellow Pages. Find local businesses with websites listed.
2. Go on Google and search on keywords that should come up for their business.
3. Pick some that don't show up on the first page of Google. (This won't be hard. Most of them won't.)
4. Contact the business owners and tell them they aren't showing up on the first page of Google for their keywords and you can correct that problem.
5. Charge them a setup fee of $497 and a monthly maintenance fee of $97.
6. Find three who say yes.
7. $1,500 in less than 20 days plus a $300/month residual income. Done.

[mrsteady]

Thanks Peter and Don for your advice, I would love to be able to do that but unfortunately I am not a very sociable person and I'm sure my negotiating skills would get me absolutely nowhere. I am determined to find clients that would hire me for article writing (as I like writing and it is online) but I'm just having a hard time. maybe I should lower my price.

[Ivancho]

Originally Posted by PeterDudek

Do you have and know how to use an Adwords account?

1. If so, open your Yellow Pages. Find local businesses with websites listed.
2. Go on Google and search on keywords that should come up for their business.
3. Pick some that don't show up on the first page of Google. (This won't be hard. Most of them won't.)
4. Contact the business owners and tell them they aren't showing up on the first page of Google for their keywords and you can correct that problem.
5. Charge them a setup fee of $497 and a monthly maintenance fee of $97.
6. Find three who say yes.
7. $1,500 in less than 20 days plus a $300/month residual income. Done.

This is a good point, never seen it before , I am going deffinatlly to try this out my self and update you...

[josborn]

mrsteady:

I do not have enough posts to send you a PM but I did send you a skype message if you can look at it.

Thanks.

Joyce

[Marhelper]

The good news is that this is very doable but it will take action and hard work on your part. I suggest busting your rump writing articles, building a few sites and then selling them, perform keyword research for someone in need, etc... Look through the recent posts on the WF and see where the need exists and meet the need through under priced and over performed service. Advertise your service in the classifieds section and then place the link in your sig. Bueno Suerte.

[mrsteady]

Hi Joyce I'm available on skype now. I didn't get your message for some reason.

[josborn]

I used your skype name that you have linked here. My user name is joycemarieosborn. Maybe you can find me?

[PaidToEmpower]

Originally Posted by PeterDudek

Do you have and know how to use an Adwords account?

1. If so, open your Yellow Pages. Find local businesses with websites listed.
2. Go on Google and search on keywords that should come up for their business.
3. Pick some that don't show up on the first page of Google. (This won't be hard. Most of them won't.)
4. Contact the business owners and tell them they aren't showing up on the first page of Google for their keywords and you can correct that problem.
5. Charge them a setup fee of $497 and a monthly maintenance fee of $97.
6. Find three who say yes.
7. $1,500 in less than 20 days plus a $300/month residual income. Done.

Hey Peter...can you elaborate on what one would do to "correct that problem"? Thanks in advance. Cathy

[mrsteady]

Hey paidtoempower you would create a ppc campaign for each business you signed up. Thanks for all the support guys I think I may have got my first customer for custom articles and on my way to clearing this $1500 before the end of the month.

[PaidToEmpower]

Originally Posted by mrsteady

Hey paidtoempower you would create a ppc campaign for each business you signed up. Thanks for all the support guys I think I may have got my first customer for custom articles and on my way to clearing this $1500 before the end of the month.

Thanks, and congrats on getting your first customer..!!

[PeterDudek]

Originally Posted by PaidToEmpower

Hey Peter...can you elaborate on what one would do to "correct that problem"? Thanks in advance. Cathy

I would interview the business owner, determine all the keywords we could think of that his customers would enter into Google.

Then, I would create an Adwords campaign with as many ad groups as needed to bring as much traffic as possible to his website.

By the way, after that, I'd show him all the reasons why his website is NOT working to convert visitors into phone calls or store visitors and offer to correct THAT problem too -- for a considerably higher fee.

Best wishes to you!

Peter

[Nightengale]

Don,

Why don't you just share with everyobdy here how to do that? I'd be interested in knowing but I wouldn't put in the effort to start such a campaign until I knew how to finish it.

Michelle

Originally Posted by Don Alm

Call a local dentist (one who has a big YP ad) ...ask for the Office Manager. When she comes online, ask her if she would be interested in a way to bring their office 25 New Patients ...and cost them Nothing.

When the Office Manager says, "Yes! She IS interested, tell her you would like to make an appointment to come by and show her HOW you will bring them the 25 New Patients.

Then, when you set the appointment, send me an email and I will tell you how YOU can bring them 25 New Patients...and get the Dentist to pay you $1,875...$75 per New Patient x 25....and how your program can Earn them $120 per New Patient, or $3,000.

Your cost will be $100 (for a Special List of Names + 250 postcards)....AFTER they pay you $937.50 (half) in advance.

You get $1,875 - 100 = $1,775 The Dentist gets 25 New Patients...and...you can continue doing this every month...for a NICE steady, Residual Income of $1,875 per Month!

Plus...you can do this for many more dentists.

Don Alm

[PaidToEmpower]

Originally Posted by PeterDudek

I would interview the business owner, determine all the keywords we could think of that his customers would enter into Google.

Then, I would create an Adwords campaign with as many ad groups as needed to bring as much traffic as possible to his website.

By the way, after that, I'd show him all the reasons why his website is NOT working to convert visitors into phone calls or store visitors and offer to correct THAT problem too -- for a considerably higher fee.

Best wishes to you!

Peter

Hmmmm, you seem like a guy with some great answers. Thank you VERY much..!! Cathy

[Charles Washington]

Hey OP! How much were you charging per word over at DP? I charge $.02-.03 per word and get steady work.

Your problem might be in your grammar errors. I am not knocking you, but there are a few errors in your original post.

You said "What my real question is though is how to get some work." That sentence is a little messed up.

You then asked "Do any of you warriors have any ideas how I can improve sales pick up of my outsourcing skills." Questions usually end with question marks, not periods.

You need to be mindful of these things when posting in forums such as this. People here who need content will see your mistakes and turn away - especially when your sig. is advertising writing services.

[mrsteady]

Hi shkad, yes that point was brought up before in this thread thanks for bringing it up again. I didn't proof read my post, I should have I know. A PM would be more polite than posting that information here though.

[Charles Washington]

Originally Posted by mrsteady

Hi shkad, yes that point was brought up before in this thread thanks for bringing it up again. I didn't proof read my post, I should have I know. A PM would be more polite than posting that information here though.

I was giving pertinent advice to others who may search your thread in the future looking for similar advice, not just you. I wasnt going for the polite angle, nor was I trying to insult you. I was just pointing out some of the things that could stop you from reaching your goal.

If you and I both have threads on DP - your thread having errors, my thread not - who do you think would get the client who is searching for a writer?

I want you to be succesful. I dont have the time to write for other people any more - unless they pay really good! So, dont take any of my advice as insulting. It is in no way meant to be that way.

So, to be nice, I will not go over the many mistakes in your most recent post. You will have to figure them out on your own. But once you learn, you will be able to reach your goal.

[mrsteady]

Thanks for clarifying you position skhad. Sometimes I forget that these posts are for the good of the forum, not the individual.

Anyway your comments are duly noted. Thanks for your contribution.

[mrsteady]

I am still finding it hard to get customers. What do you guys think of offering a free article as a way to attract customers?

[Charles Washington]

Originally Posted by mrsteady

I am still finding it hard to get customers. What do you guys think of offering a free article as a way to attract customers?

NEVER OFFER FREE ARTICLES ON DP!!!!!

Trust me on this. You will end up writing a bunch of free articles, and not landing one paying customer. Just search the content creation forum for threads offering samples.

They die once all samples are taken.

Have you tried elance or Demand Media?

[mrsteady]

Thanks for that list skhad, I'm making a profile on Elance now and don't worry of course I'll proof read the ad copy

[redneo]

thanks for the great method.... i go something to do with my local offline business now...

[stephenh]

Mate,
If it has to be done in this short time then I would send out 100 letters (see warrior member mookinman
David Black post and letter
to local businesses

a great letter he sends to offline businesses


then get some tutoring in how to give them the results. $1500 is NOTHING for a business to spend.

hope it helps
Stephen

ps or write sales letters, they are more highly valued than articles

[Sam101]

A couple of ideas that could help you.
1. If you are OK with this, you can try producing custom videos, for customers. If you have Windows Movie Maker, on your computer this can be done at no cost. The still images and videos can be supplied by prospects themselves. You can use copyright free music on the web.
2. If you have a good voice, you can convert ebooks to audio books by reading the book yourself and recording your voice. You can edit the noise, add some free music using open source sound mixing software called Audacity.

[alankay]

These are not "hard" times. They are only "hard" if you think they are.

You need to change that part of your attitude. You're surrounded by more opportunity than there has ever been before ... And that is also the problem ...

[mrsteady]

Hi alankay,

Can you tell me what your post has to do with making $1500 as a content writer?

[Debbie Allen]

Here's an idea that you may not have thought of yet - since you are proficient in mathematical concepts why don't you create a complete package of instructional material that would help others? You could combine with your writing skills with your math skills, help others and make money at the same time.

This package could be worked on while you are waiting on orders. In the end you would have a nice product that could prove to bring in some profit now and in the future.

As far as your writing errors here in the forum - yes, as a writer you will be judged by what and how you write but I think others should understand that as a writer...while posting here I do not always take the time to focus on grammar and spelling. After all, this is a totally different type of writing and we are among friends.

With that being said, having samples of your work is important. So just as others have suggested, it is a good idea to begin writing articles even if you do not have any orders. Consider writing about some of the more popular topics and create PLR packages.

[mrsteady]

Thanks for all the tips guys. OK, I think I have finally learned my lesson about proof reading all the posts I make, I am trying to market myself as a writer after all.

I have began working on writing content to sell. I have chosen some niches that I think are selling well on DP. Is it better to sell my work as a once only sale or as PLR? Every PLR pack I have seen on DP has at least 100 articles with it. If I create a 10 article pack and say it will only be sold ten times will I get customers? What is a reasonable price to sell PLR for?

Im getting anxious about making the $1500 before the end of the month when the bills arrive. I thought I would be able to earn some money, if even a small amount daily by writing content and doing hard work. As of yet I am still to make a single penny.

Anyway I will continue this endeavour as it is my last chance to get the required money.