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| Terry Jackson War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009
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Hey Warriors, Just wondering If any of you have ever made money from a WSO withinn 24 hours after purchase. Or If not 24 hours, what was the fastest amount of time It took you to make money after purchasing a WSO. Thanks Warriors, Terry |
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Yes, I always make money in the first 24 hours. I would be worried if I didn't. The first 24 hours are the most important part of a WSO. If you don't make any money in those first 24 hours then it's going to be very hard to pick up the momentum. |
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| Terry Jackson War Room Member Join Date: Feb 2009
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Thanks Will, but I meant on the buyers end of the WSO, not the sellers end.
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Yup, normally I make the most money within the first 24 hours (or get the most subscribers when I offer a free wso). When it falls to 2nd & 3rd page, sales will slow down |
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The title was: Have any WSO's made you money In 24 hours - just check the first 3 replies they have the original title ![]() As for answer: if any WSO promises something like that - they are lying. And anybody that expects to make money with a purchased WSO in 24 hrs... is naive (and I was very mild). | |
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But it's very nearly the same groundwork you'd need for the upcoming System Sixty affiliate blogging product, so if you go on to buy that one, you save a week and can start doing potentially-profitable work immediately. Similarly, you'll buy a lot of WSOs which - amazingly - require more or less the same infrastructure. Once you've built that infrastructure, you'll be able to implement all of those WSOs that much faster. When I first got hold of Frank Kern's 4-Day Cash Machine, it needed a certain infrastructure: a sizeable list, a series of products, and the ability to put one on sale at 50% off. I didn't have any of that, so I couldn't use it. Today, I do, so I could - and the 4DCM would indeed make me money in less than 24 hours. But if you don't have the infrastructure it needs, you'll need several months to a year so you can build it. This is frequently what takes a marketer to the tipping point... building the infrastructure that sits underneath a successful internet business, a bit at a time. First it's a domain, then a website, then a blog, then a list, then a product. If you just keep plugging away for a year or so, you'll build that foundation and suddenly stuff will "just work." Most people pat themselves on the back for that, but it's really that you've gotten past most of the technology questions about "how do I put a product on sale?" and you can focus on things like "how do I make a totally awesome product?" instead. Neither question is particularly hard, you just can't ask the second one effectively until you've answered the first one. | |
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Hi Terry, I've only ever bought about a dozen wso's and most of them involved medium term work, which in turn meant The money would come later. But having said that, one in particular wso I bought for $7, was something I could action immediately if I wanted. So I did and within approx 6 hours, I'd made $90. Since then I've worked a bit more with it and made several hundred more. All the best Steve |
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Well... not in my case. I've bought WSO's to improve my current business tasks and complete them quicker, not methods to make quick money. And sometimes I buy complete systems or business models. I stay away from those "fast money methods" that promise to make you money in a short period of time. However, I do recommend fast money methods to newbies. It's a good way to get some start-up capital which can be re-invested in real business models later. Stay away from "quick money methods" unless you just want to get some capital together to invest on a real business model. |
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Have not made any money on WSO's, Steve which one for 7.00 made you money...if you don't mind answering?
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When someone reads your WSO and likes what they read, they are perfectly willing to say you wrote an awesome WSO because they didn't do anything. But when they go and do something, any success is because they have succeeded, and any failure is because your WSO has failed. So when they make money, they don't go back to your WSO thread and say "I made money because of what I learned from your awesome WSO." They go to the main forum and say "I made money because I am awesome and oh by the way I'll be releasing a WSO all about it." ![]() There's also the bare reality that most WSOs are by nature incomplete. You don't get a "business in a box" for $10 no matter what the sales copy says, so you have to add significant insight, skill, and determination to most WSOs before they actually become a working business model. By the time you've added what the WSO needs to generate money, it's not really the WSO doing the work. Most WSO-based successes are actually the result of several WSOs in combination. None of this is because WSOs are bad, or because people are horrible. It's just basic human psychology. If you want to teach people, you have to accept that they will only succeed because they are great students, and they will only fail because you are a crappy teacher. It goes with the territory. | |
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Most wso's do require some time before you start seeing any sales from implementing the the process/system. If you are REALLY looking to make cash as fast as possible then I would say to focus on WSO's whose models are either based around offline marketing OR selling products or services on craigslist or other online classifieds sites. |
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| "Make money in 24 hours" is a promise which depends greatly on the buyer's situation. The disclaimer on that promise would have to be almost as long as the average WSO. So any WSO which promises you'll make money in 24 hours is full of crap, because the vendor can't possibly know that you're in the situation it requires. It's an unethical promise that can only be made if you don't care whether it's true. I wouldn't go so far as to call it lying, but I'd call it bull****. |
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As CDarklock points out it happens just like this in WSO's and many areas of teaching/learning and life. | |
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I buy WSO's to gain knowledge and increase the revenue. Most of WSO's give ideas to earn money. If you have a list, you have a great chance to earn much with 24 hours.
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I've been looking for the link to it but can't for the life of me find it. But in summary it involved hunting down illegal links to a variety of digital products, and then contacting the product owners and offering to have those links removed for a fee. The fee varied depending on how many links were found. What I liked about it was that anyone could do it, but probably wouldn't as they may consider it would saturate within hours. As I said, I had a go straight away and received $90 in my paypal account within hours. I then took it a bit further and created a site for the service I was offering (to give me some perceived credibility) The wso included some tips and tactics to automate the whole thing. Anyway, It is a nice little wso for anyone who is yet to make some money online. All the best Steve | |
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Now, if you had a website offering to check for these links, and you got contacted by the vendor to go find them and send him a report... following which, you offered to get them removed for a fee... I think that would bring you back into legal territory. But the way you're describing it, I wouldn't touch that idea without speaking to an attorney first. EDIT: This is, of course, a U.S.-centric perspective. I don't know whether this represents any risk at all in other countries. In East Africa, they probably have major companies that do this named "Blackmail Inc." | |
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I had some a**hat contact me about "taking links down". I didn't get back to him fast enough and the a-hole then proceeded to threaten me with extortion and now his account is banned. So much for his business model. Pay me and I'll help take down these links is so unethical, mainly because, what the sharer is doing is breaking the freaking law. This is akin to seeing a guy mugging my grandmother, and knowing who he is but refusing to testify until I pay you cash. Steve, I'm half tempted to report you to the mods and get your account banned. What you are doing is completely wrong. If you know people who are sharing you need to turn those in to the product maker, without charge, and let him handle it. Good god. I hope the mods ban that guy who made that idiotic WSO. Rob EDIT: To anyone practicing this "business model" - you do it to me and I find out who you are, you'll find yourself in legal hot water pretty damn quick. | ||
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I wouldn't know about the legal in and outs of it I'm afraid. The wso suggested I search for illegal links, send the product owner an email including the links, offering to get them removed for a service fee. Quite a few that I've mailed have taken up my offer. They could of course have contacted the file sharing sites themselves had they wanted to. If yourself and/or a mod feels my account needs to be banned because of my reply, so be it. | |
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What this other guy did was refuse to share who it was and when I didn't respond to him, he told me he would post those links on the main thread and wouldn't delete them until I got back to him. Rob | |
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Still something I'd talk to a lawyer about, though. There's way too much fury around piracy (see Rob's initial response to the idea) for my taste, and I'd really want to make sure I worded everything properly and made the terms clear. | |
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Surprised at your reaction to this type of service. If someone found illegal links of a product and refused to give them without money, that's not blackmail. It's looking for a reward. And you cannot compare someone's grandmother being mugged with someone sharing warez links. Besides, they're alerting you to a "crime" that you didn't even know had occurred. With the mugging case, someone is morally obliged to testify. If you believe that people are morally obliged to contact the copyright owners for every warez link they've ever seen in their life then...well it's just not realistic, is it? |
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| Call it whatever you like - blackmail, extortion, obstruction of justice, or just plain being a dick. But I think you'll find that people are LEGALLY obliged not to demand money from the copyright owners if they make contact with them.
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Yes - it's the exact same thing as the mugging. The illegal sharing of copyright material, is, well, illegal. By saying you know who they are, but you won't tell me unless money is handed over, is the exact same thing as my example above. A crime has been committed. You are reporting the crime to the victim, but not saying who committed the crime until money is changing hands. Now, Chris, you tell me again - that's just a "service" asking for a reward and it isn't immoral, illegal, and unethical. If you say it isn't, your views on immorality are completely screwed up. Rob | |
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It would actually be STUPID for you to start making money after 24 hours of purchasing the WSO. Not only may it require certain infrastructure that you may not have, but you need to thoroughly analyse it to make sure you're doing everything correctly before going into the marketing venture.
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I got emails and pm's exactly like Rob described about 2 months ago, I think. Same pitch, .."hey, I found some pirate links to your products" For $90 I'll remove them" etc. They all got the idea from a wso that was running about that time. I was getting one pitch a day, for awhile....then I noticed the price was dropping, probably as they weren't getting many takers. All they were doing was sending a DMCA notice...for $90. _____ Bruce |
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But what's to stop you from creating those "leaks" by publishing their download links on all those B.H. forums and then turning around and asking for cash to remove them? Pretty shady if you ask me... | |
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if you are trying to make money by implementing the WSO, 24 hrs is too short to decide about the effectiveness of the WSO. Anything less than a week, even though the WSO claims 24hrs, i would say is too little time to decide...
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I never read any wso that made me money in 4 hours. actually.. the ones who promise that, probably wont make you any money at all..
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Terry, Personally, I haven't made money within 24 hours after purchase -- but then again, I'm not buying money makers. Instead, I'm looking for the tools and resources I need to build my business. For example, I might purchase a report that will help me format and load a Kindle book. That's not going to put quick cash in my pocket, but it will help me build my business. However, I bet there are WSOs out there where it's possible to make money in 24 hours. For example: -- Certain types of freelancing -- Selling stuff on CraigsList -- Doing some local stuff (like mowing lawns, shoveling snow, painting numbers on curbs) Stuff like that. *** As for the second thread within the thread, regarding links... Yuck. If someone emailed me about pirated links, I would think they had placed those links themselves. Kind of like the window repair folks who throw a brick through your window with a note attached, "need your windows fixed?" ![]() Becky |
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You are attempting to profit at my expense. And you admit piracy is a crime. So a crime has been committed, and thus, you have a right to profit from that crime? And if I don't pay up, the criminal gets away with it because you have the information I need? Sorry Chris, there isn't many times when I will flat out say "you're wrong" - but this is one of those times were you ARE wrong. Especially in the moral/ethical department. Rob | |
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Piracy is a crime, yes. There's no argument on this. "Profiting from a crime"? What about lawyers who defend suspects who are convicted? What about people who sell band-aids for victims of crime? What about people who sell biographies on criminals? I don't really see your point here? Crime happens and there are plenty of legal and moral industries dealing with both prevention and after-effects of crime. So long as they are not encouraging crime then I don't see the problem. Someone going around alerting copyright owners to pirated links is doing a service. There is no blackmail or other crime involved in requiring payment if you wanted to know those links. You can have your opinion. It adds nothing to the debate (some might call it a personal attack). Sitting on a high-horse doesn't make you right, it just means that you think you are right, that's all. It's not universal. | ||
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It depends if you mean 24 hours 'real time' or 24 hours 'work time'. If it's the latter, then yes... I've had a good few WSO's that have made me some money within 24 hours of action taking. Unfortunately, although I was making money in the first 24 hours it probably was only a few dollars. But most WSO's are focused on long term things such as list building or building sites... Not many will be methods that you can see cash overnight. |
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This is a futile argument. I suggest we end it here and now and move back on-topic. Let others decide for themselves what they think of that particular WSO.
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Now we've strayed from the land of "fun debate" into personal attacks. Let's not get this thread nuked.
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Thanks Warriors, appreciate all the comments.
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I generally tell people to stop chasing methods and put together a solid plan. Some people are good at creating niche sites and ranking them long term. Others are good at identifying trends and earning money short term. I'm not saying that all WSO's are bad. I do feel that a good percentage are way overhyped, though. But that's not to say there aren't a few really good ones. It's just a matter of finding a method that suits your style and putting a spin on it. And most of all, sticking with it. |
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I don't think there are many regardless of the promises, the headlines and the reviews. However, I purchased the viral facebook fan page creator (I am in no way affiliated with this but since there is more than one am posting the one I got) Viral Facebook Fanpage Builder for online and offline business And within a few days, I made $600 from a client whom I never knew before who found me because his friend (whom I also did not know) forwarded the fanpage link. However, I would like to note, that I already had other business things in place to be able to make that much money from a single client. I also have used that same software to create other fan pages brand new and have made $19.90 from that. Other than that, there is no other WSO that has made me any money in a short period of time. |
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I have made money yes but not within 24 hours after buying one no way. I should say however I've only bought 1 WSO my entire time on this forum and it made me so much money I have had no reason to buy another. And that was coming here as a total newbie too. It took about 4 weeks however of practicing everyday, and really giving it my all to make it work. Started my own business. Got fired from my job (which turned out to be a blessing) and wound up having more time to put towards the biz. Well so far I've bought my first home, found a new meaning to life, and have never been has happy as I am right now. So I can't really trash WSO's or the fact that most of them are FOS. Even though these forums have made it commonplay to target and take advantage of newbies the fact is when I was a newbie I was still smart enough not to get taken advantage of. So I have very little sympathy for people who do get taken advantage of. They let it happen to themselves. Overall, if it wasn't for WSO's god I'd still be working full time, slaving away, and would have had NO IDEA how good a salesman I actually am. I just didn't realize till I came here, started going out and selling my service. I'm sure it has a lot to do with 4 of my older brothers being experienced salesmen themselves. But either way these forums have given me a lot and I'm thankful for everything I've been able to achieve up untill this point. Warrior forum is the ****. |
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There are scammers out there and there are some real treasures. It is difficult to know the good from the bad. For example, there is one scammer on here who has been reported numerous times and yet he is still allowed to keep selling his WSO even though he NEVER had done the service he says he will do for anyone. Week after week, month after month, some excuse or another. So I think it is very important for those who find a WSO that really does work for them, that they let the rest of us know and should also report on the scammers. And yes, I know, not just call someone a scammer because the WSO took work and the buyer never did it. I mean real scammers who take your money and do not provide the service you purchased at all. |
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Hmm... what about getting commission from newest WSO and promote your aff link to your list? It may be will make you money faster than implement the meat of those WSO. |
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