THE LATEST FBI TAKE DOWN... BODOG!

Amazing. US creates own criminal claim by acting illegally.

What's next???

US official in Maryland solicits prostitute from Netherlands website.

"Prostitution is illegal in Maryland, and federal law prohibits prostitutes from flouting that law simply because they are located outside the country."

Afghan official in Kabul views pornography on US website.

"Pornography is illegal in Kabul, and national law prohibits pornographers from flouting that law simply because they are located outside the country."

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Why you think they are trying to pass internet regulation bills?

Everything is so much better when the government regulates it!

Once again the US wants to rule the world....

They need to get a grip....

It is because after they banned US players playing poker, alot of them joined Bodog.
Must be the Gov stamping it out

With all the real crime that exists you would think that law enforcement officials would go after real criminals. Not only are they spending lots of time doing stupid stuff like this they are spending lots of our taxpayer money!

BODOG.COM has been offline for over a year anyway.

This seizure of Bodog.com is a bit odd as the domain name hasn’t been operational for quite some time and isn’t in use for any active commerce anywhere in the world. Other Bodog Brand properties won’t be affected by the seizure of this inactive domain.


I asked our publisher and Bodog Brand founder Calvin Ayre about the seizure, “Not sure what to say. BodogBrand.com is a brand-licensing organisation based outside the US. The brand left the market last year and the domain in question has been dormant globally for longer than that. We are only currently doing brand licensing deals outside the US so this domain had no place in any of our current plans.”

Gotta say your bang on Mike.

I cant stand american authorities thinking they run the internet. I really hope if this case goes to trial it will shead light on how stupid the FBI really is. How can it be ok for them to take down large online businesses that are not in the same country as well arresting citizens of other countries ?!?!

Its bulls*it to say the least and i hate america for it but your right they are probably realizing how much money they are loosing to internet entrepreneurs.

These take downs of major sites i believe is just the beginning, we are living through crazy times

What's the point of trying to get SOPA passed if the govt. can do what they want anyway?

I heard a few years back that the current US admin signed some sort of agreement making it legal for interpol to work inside of the US. I didn't take it to heart then - CODEX hands our health freedoms to an international treatise and read the Milinneum Doctrine, and one of two of the supporting doctrines and it gives many of the US rights to the UN. Now we no longer have habeas corpus -- and to tell you the truth.........I am not all that sure that many countries, including ours, are still operating solely under sovereign laws at all.

Actually - it seems to me that we are operating without any rule of law - even international law. Nobody seems to be safe from prosecution even if what they are doing is legal in their state or country.

Seems like the only crime committed here was by the FBI agent who accessed a Gambling site online knowing it was Illegal to do so in the USA then gambling on the Internet winning pocketing the money and they have the gall to go after a foreign site hosted on foreign server owner by foreigners in another country .

Something is very wrong here surely the crime is on the person who broke the law within that country and that was the FBI guy.

Scary times

We just had a HUUGGGGGGGGE DRUG bust here in Thailand a combined task force of Thai and US DEA Agents and they arrested 3 guys with (WAIT FOR IT) 10 pounds of weed.

That is what your tax dollars is paying for

Gaz

Was the Afghan viewing a porn site targeted to his country? Should the U.S. require sites hosted here to disable access in certain countries where site content violates a country's laws? Maybe.

But - the gambling sites aren't so innocent. If you are advertising betting on NBA and college basketball....what country are you targeting?

Seems some of the accused from the previous gambling site charges are going through the courts now. Not exactly a story about upstanding site owners unfairly persecuted.

Online poker middleman pleads guilty in NYC - WSJ.com

Come on... the FBI guy probably didn't know it was illegal to Gamble in Maryland... Give the guy a break. {sarcasm intended} BoDog you bastages!!!

Biggest problem is... domains all at some point originate from the U.S. ICANN... so they can shut anyone down in any country. I never really thought about this until now. Damn... Unless I am missing something here? Too much power for anyone to wield in this day and age. Didn't really need to worry about SOPA, etc... happens anyway heh.

Same thing happened to mega upload
you are absolutely right. they are loosing a huge amount that's why they deleted the site from the list

I personally played a lot of online poker (prior to) the 'take down' of Full Tilt Poker and a few other sites. Honestly, I lost more than I won, so it saved me some money in the long run, no doubt...lol.

However, I cannot help but feel the US is totally 'hypocritical' in the decision making process to oversee and regulate specific online activities. I mean c'mon the trillions of dollars we send over seas to 'outsource' cheaper labor, technology, customer services, WAR, etc... has all but obliterated our economy and severely hammered the job market all-in-one. Still, they allow oil companies (*their bed-fellows) to charge whatever the "F" they want per barrel and do so openly knowing this increases costs for everything else across the board...(i.e. transportation, food, construction materials, clothing, etc...)

While I agree most gambling can be viewed as an unethical or perhaps morally degrading practice (*unless you're a casino owner, American Indian, professional gambler or card counter...lol) - it still doesn't seem appropriate the government can classify legit websites from operating... gambling or not!

If they (*our beloved government) were so "f'ing" worried about the money 'leaving' the US, perhaps they should concentrate on 'suspending' 50-75% of our current war activities overseas, and bring both our jobs and our people home.

Ironically, overseas workers are slowly demanding pay increases (rightly so) and as a result, many service based jobs, factory work, and labor based businesses are slowly coming back home... but not fast enough IMHO.

You know it's bad when I go to the local Social Security office to attain my 17 year old "American Born" son a copy of his SS Card, only to be harassed by a 'green card wielding" security guard who's 1st language is NOT English!!! ...but wants to treat "Us" American born and brewed citizenslike terrorists. I nearly got arrested, after stepping out to have a smoke, and when I attempted to re-enter the 'waiting room' to join my Wife and son, it nearly got physical and I was threatened to be removed or arrested from the property, as a result of a government employee who was clearly unable to comprehend the "ENGLISH" language.

All this bs about "outside threats & terrorism" doesn't hold a candle to the damage this country is tolerating from within it's own structure. Meanwhile, I remain optimistic we can bring the focus back to "liberty and justice for all" -as opposed to being oppressed by fear as a result of greed and ignorance. After all, it killed off nearly every super power prior, so what's really any different today?

Sorry for the rant, but if I want to play a $100 poker tournament online (*or anywhere) for that matter, I think it's an infringement on ones God given right. But, they'll push lottery tickets, prescription pills, and this implied 'threat' of terrorism to no avail.

What's next? - Shall we ban Manny Pacquaio from bringing his winnings home, or stop internet marketers from outsourcing web design to overseas countries too?

I say no! -Instead, if the intelligence to utilize 'outsourcing' to be equally beneficial to both 'outside' entities, and can draw more sales and revenue into the US...maybe then more of us could afford to spend more liberally, instead of fearing what the future holds for our stale @$$ economy.

I say our government has proven that they suck at gambling... if not, why the hell are we so far in debt. *Because the gambling they do only benefits the minority...kinda like Google...LOL.

OK, I'll stfu now. Just my .02

It was my understanding that it was illegal for the banks in the US to process funds for gambling sites ... not that it was illegal to gamble.

If that is true, and it may not be now, then the "criminal" should be whatever financial institution paid off the US citizen.

At any rate, the US has really overstepped on this one, and in gambling in general. It's legal in many countries and the US is just trying to protect their own offline gambling interests by keeping online gambling out of the US.

I use to have great fun playing around with online casinos and also made some good money promoting their bonus offers to people.

Such a shame. Bogof was great for matched betting if I remember correctly.

Entrapment, or forms of it, have always been a sticky one. Many valid points made in this thread.

For those outside the US and making critical remarks. You're correct, but just remember it's not the average American behind this.

If you are outraged by this, then I have some very disconcerting news for you. This is nothing compared to what has been going on and will only continue, unabated. I cannot be specific because it involves activities in Washington DC that are beyond the boundaries of what can be discussed in the forum. Following the rules.

But, I will give you just one example and others are in this thread. The POTUS & SSOTUS are pushing very hard for a global ban on privately owned firearms. They are doing this via the UN. The Small Arms "Treaty" I believe is the unassuming euphemism for this.

Oh there's much more going on than that. A lot more, and it is not the stuff of imagination, either.

In the situation discussed in the OP, you'd think there would be something levied against the US based payment processors. You'd think. But that will not happen.

You're all correct and have valid feelings of some type of personal violation even though the connection is simply one of this egregious behavior being perpetrated on a more or less regular person. Assets in the billions aside, he's still just a regular person. So the natural inclination is to imagine this type of abuse of power being exercised against you.

It must be because of the .com domain, which a US government institution (which exactly I don't remember) has declared to be under the US jurisdiction.

Hi Mike,

Me and my mate were chatting earlier about the England vs Holland football game and I bet him a pint of beer depending on the result.

Do you think this will be OK, or should we have asked Obama for permission first? I don't want to be extradited to Cuba and end up getting ironing-boarded or something else nasty like that.

Do you think I should consult a lawyer for legal advice, Brian? Would it help if I promise that the beer I buy will be a Budweiser?

:rolleyes:

Well, Bodog have back up. I got an email from them today saying business as usual. So it does not affect their business, as they have eu, lv, ca, all kind of domain which FBI can not touch. So overall whats the point?

But what i think is, Slowly FBI trying to get all kind of poker domain who used to do business in US.

Just going to say as a US voter, some of us over here are concerned that no matter who we elect to office that the result is inevitably going to be the same: an over reaching government. It doesn't help that people seem to only be against it when they're against the specific actions of the government. Otherwise they ignore it or even support it. Just human nature I suppose.

Example: I mostly oppose censoring the internet. As part of my argument I may say that the government would be over reaching if they did censor it. On the other hand I would strongly support a serious crackdown on drugs. I would be tempted to look the other way (to some extent) even if the Feds overstepped their bounds then.

It also doesn't help that a large portion of our national media blindly supports a single party and often unfairly (or at least inaccurately) attacks the other. Unfortunately the alternatives don't exactly do as good of a job as they could countering all that. Sometimes they only make it worse.

To top it all off we now have an administration that openly talks down to the people. Well, unless it's their fan base of course. Then they distort the facts.

Everything they do is simply a means to whatever end they're trying to reach. They don't care about balance anymore as they know that it's no longer necessary. They've openly said that big government is needed, and they only intend to make it bigger. We have no reasonable right to privacy and the wealthy are not entitled to keep their wealth.

Fortunately the gov tends to be pretty slow at pulling off their schemes. They've also been thrown into a complete 180 degree spin before. So just hold on to your freedoms and your wallet. Or tightly grasp your guns and Bibles. Whatever slogan works for you.