Making money on Iwriter.

Profile picture of the author fin by
I've not been on for a while and it's changed so much.

Does anyone know how many articles you need to be allowed to write elite articles, and how much the new payments are for each word length?

Cheers.
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  • Profile picture of the author EllesBelles
    Payment is very low.

    $1.62 for 300 words, $2.43 for 500 words and $4.05 for 700 words.

    Payments can be weekly or biweekly, etc.

    I can't remember how many you have to write to be elite, but however many it is, the vast majority of people could make more money elsewhere.
  • Profile picture of the author Ross Cohen
    You need around 20-some articles to be able to get more than $3/article I believe (for 500 words, that is). Some people even past that feedback accept $3 gigs. The fact of the matter is, you won't become rich from iWriter. If you're an extremely good writer, there's Constant-Content. If you do become reputable on iWriter though you can bring some decent cash in - it's all about reputation and then you'll start making somewhere around $7-10/article, even a little past $15 at some point I believe.
  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    You have to get feedback from 30 gigs to get upgraded. 4 or more stars makes you a premium writer and 4.6 or higher makes you elite.

    For a 500 word article you will get $2.43 as a normal writer, $4.05 as a premium writer, and $6.48 as an elite writer. I see a bit of variation sometimes so I think people can offer to pay more than the minimum per article. You can also get tips if someone really likes your work.
  • Profile picture of the author ptusm
    very low income
  • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
    Be advised that the Premium and Elite articles are not always worth their prices as the client can be extremely demanding. The rejection rate is also high, which means you are highly likely to get knocked back down to a Basic writer if you aren't careful. There are clients who want a 5000 word ebook PLUS a squeeze page, all of which has to be done within a 5 hour time frame-IMPOSSIBLE if it is to be of high quality.

    If you do become a Premium or Elite writer, try and stick with topics you're comfortable with and don't look for the highest paying gigs. Clients will reject you with the quickness and it takes a lot to build your rank back up. As resellcells mentioned, Constant Content is the business if you're an extremely good writer. You don't have write yourself ragged to reach a certain status just to see that it is not all what it seems.
  • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
    Originally Posted by Elluminati View Post

    Be advised that the Premium and Elite articles are not always worth their prices as the client can be extremely demanding. The rejection rate is also high, which means you are highly likely to get knocked back down to a Basic writer if you aren't careful. There are clients who want a 5000 word ebook PLUS a squeeze page, all of which has to be done within a 5 hour time frame-IMPOSSIBLE if it is to be of high quality.

    If you do become a Premium or Elite writer, try and stick with topics you're comfortable with and don't look for the highest paying gigs. Clients will reject you with the quickness and it takes a lot to build your rank back up. As resellcells mentioned, Constant Content is the business if you're an extremely good writer. You don't have write yourself ragged to reach a certain status just to see that it is not all what it seems.
    What's an extremely good writer anymore? I read the most popular tech sites, Yahoo, ESPN, etc.. and in the comments section I see blasts about how the articles are poorly written.

    Lets face it; content writers are going the way of $2 hookers.

    Work your butt off so someone can hurry up and throw your article (good or not) on their website, slap a bunch of links on it... rinse and repeat.

    I could make more driving a garbage truck than I could writing for Iwriter.
  • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
    Originally Posted by absoluteallen View Post

    What's an extremely good writer anymore? I read the most popular tech sites, Yahoo, ESPN, etc.. and in the comments section I see blasts about how the articles are poorly written.

    Lets face it; content writers are going the way of $2 hookers.

    Work your butt off so someone can hurry up and throw your article (good or not) on their website, slap a bunch of links on it... rinse and repeat.

    I could make more driving a garbage truck than I could writing for Iwriter.

    Since you misread what I wrote, you go on and drive the hell out of that garbage truck and make that "dirty" money

    I don't recall endorsing iWriter as the ideal place to write. Just like everyone else putting their 2 cents up regarding the question of this thread, so did I. An extremely good writer is versatile, consistent, and knows his or her s***. And an extremely good writer isn't going to work their butt off for bull**** pay, so that $2 hooker reference is pretty lame, bruh.

    You seem to be fixated on article writing:
    Work your butt off so someone can hurry up and throw your article (good or not) on their website, slap a bunch of links on it... rinse and repeat.

    Not every writer is an article writer. Some of us EXTREMELY GOOD WRITERS have corporate clients and write content for offline purposes.

    What works for other people may not work for you. And even EXTREMELY GOOD WRITERS make a nice passive income from sites such as Constant Content where they can set their own prices.

    Unfortunately, the Internet is ridiculously overpopulated with poorly written articles, but that doesn't mean they are the products of sites such as iWriter, Textbroker, etc. Someone's dog could've written the article for all we know, but who cares ?! :rolleyes:
  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Originally Posted by absoluteallen View Post

    What's an extremely good writer anymore? I read the most popular tech sites, Yahoo, ESPN, etc.. and in the comments section I see blasts about how the articles are poorly written.

    Lets face it; content writers are going the way of $2 hookers.

    Work your butt off so someone can hurry up and throw your article (good or not) on their website, slap a bunch of links on it... rinse and repeat.

    I could make more driving a garbage truck than I could writing for Iwriter.
    Well, I was making about $15/hr writing for iWriter when I was doing it. That isn't bad for people who have never made money online.

    And sure... you may think "content writers are going the way of $2 hookers" but I still make great money writing for clients.

    There will always be people out there who want REAL quality and are willing to pay for it.
  • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
    Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

    Well, I was making about $15/hr writing for iWriter when I was doing it. That isn't bad for people who have never made money online.

    And sure... you may think "content writers are going the way of $2 hookers" but I still make great money writing for clients.

    There will always be people out there who want REAL quality and are willing to pay for it.
    Well then help me out. Tell me the secrets in PM. I am for sure not going to write anything for under $20. That's my minimum.

    I don't see the worth of all the work it takes to write people content that people "want" to read for less.

    It's greed. Not only that, it's poor guru marketing strategies that convince people to throw crap against the wall several times and maybe once it will stick.

    Get everything for nothing, make millions!

    :rolleyes:
  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Originally Posted by absoluteallen View Post

    Well then help me out. Tell me the secrets in PM. I am for sure not going to write anything for under $20. That's my minimum.

    I don't see the worth of all the work it takes to write people content that people "want" to read for less.

    It's greed. Not only that, it's poor guru marketing strategies that convince people to throw crap against the wall several times and maybe once it will stick.

    Get everything for nothing, make millions!

    :rolleyes:
    I regularly get paid 4-5 cents per word and I know plenty of people that get paid more. Just quit trying to compete with the $2 article writers!

    Some people say you have to get off of WF to do this... it does help, but 50% of my clients are Warriors, so there are plenty of Warriors willing to pay for quality content as well. You just need to help them find you.
  • Profile picture of the author monkseo
    I don't think this site is made to generate realistic income for any person in the USA. You just can't make enough creating quality articles being paid the low amount they pay unless you live off McDonalds and Raman... It was created for people in countries where teachers make $6 a week... If you are in the USA, you are supposed to use this service because it is very cheap, and tweak the articles to create better quality articles, as every article I ever bought on there needed to be modified so it sounds normal, not the best quality, but cheap and a good start.
  • Profile picture of the author jchengery
    Hello everyone,

    fin - There are several good points in this thread:

    AmandaT is correct on how much you have to produce in order to become an Elite writer. It's all based on your feedback and having at least 30 feedback comments. < 4.0 is Basic, 4.0-4.599 is Premium, 4.6-5.0 is Elite, with varying increases in pay. Additionally, clients can specifically request certain writers, leading to more pay for that writer (something like 86% of the total fee goes to the writer in special request instances, etc.)

    Elluminati also brings up a good point regarding how you have to be selective in choosing clients to write for; some clients are reasonable in their requirements, but some of them are not. In addition, some of their instructions are not clear, so you should make sure about their requirements before you agree to do the article. In addition, it does take time to build your reputation back up if you get one bad grade, especially when you are first starting out.

    I had been working on iWriter for a while ("jcwriter1" is my username), and have picked up one loyal client, along with some regular work from a few others, but lately moved away from it for three main reasons:

    1. Working on other projects, including Internet marketing, writing elsewhere (including Constant-Content), and niche marketing.

    2. IWriter changed the submittal page where the text is always messed up whenever you copy and paste, even from Notepad, which shouldn't affect the text, but it does. That calls for additional formatting, which takes additional time to do, thereby decreasing your pay per minute and hour.

    3. Perhaps the most annoying thing, and this happened this morning when I worked for the loyal client I mentioned earlier, I submitted a quality article through the iWriter interface, and it was rejected by Copyscape because it had a 3.43% duplication factor. What were the words that Copyscape picked up on? Essentially, the keywords that the client wanted in her article (online savings accounts), as well as related keywords (APY, Annual Percentage Yield, opening an account, etc.).

    It's annoying to me because there were, at most, 10 words that may have been duplicated, and those words were all necessary in the article. Additionally, 3.43% is very, very low - iWriter's Copyscape checks never caused a problem before they went to the new graphics and design 1-2 months back. Additionally, you get charged each time your article "fails" Copyscape - it's only $.10, granted, but still, it gets annoying when you work hard on an article only to have it come back labelled as "duplicated" content.

    Additionally, if you have three instances of Copyscape rejecting your article, your account is suspended until iWriter manually investigates your account and reinstates you. For the record, I haven't had that happen to me, thankfully, but that is reportedly the procedure if that occurs.

    For all of those reasons, I haven't been working on iWriter as much lately. If those conditions above were addressed, I'd consider going back to it on a part-time basis, but as others have mentioned, you can likely make more money in other ways. IWriter's best feature might be to build up a loyal client base, then work with them exclusively through iWriter and off of iWriter.

    Hopefully, this was helpful.

    Please take care and have a great day!

    Joe Chengery III
  • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
    Originally Posted by monkseo View Post

    I don't think this site is made to generate realistic income for any person in the USA. You just can't make enough creating quality articles being paid the low amount they pay unless you live off McDonalds and Raman... It was created for people in countries where teachers make $6 a week... If you are in the USA, you are supposed to use this service because it is very cheap, and tweak the articles to create better quality articles, as every article I ever bought on there needed to be modified so it sounds normal, not the best quality, but cheap and a good start.
    Minimum wage in Ohio is $7.70 or $6.48 for an elite writer at Iwriter. So 8 hours of McDonald's work is $61.60 a day or a week of working full time at McDonald's is $308 a week. Iwriter or McDonald's?

    I know what I'd pick at those rates.
  • Profile picture of the author AmandaT
    Originally Posted by absoluteallen View Post

    Minimum wage in Ohio is $7.70. So 8 hours of McDonald's work is $61.60 a day or a week of working full time at McDonald's is $308 a week. Iwriter or McDonald's?

    I know what I'd pick at those rates.
    Like McDonalds hires any full time workers...

    Honestly, iWriter works best as a stop gap. Need money but don't have clients? Write on iWriter to help cover your IM bills.

    Don't depend on iWriter unless you can write VERY fast or don't need much to go on. (I can write 3-4 500 word articles on iWriter in an hour if I really set my mind to it.)
  • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
    Originally Posted by AmandaT View Post

    Like McDonalds hires any full time workers...

    Honestly, iWriter works best as a stop gap. Need money but don't have clients? Write on iWriter to help cover your IM bills.

    Don't depend on iWriter unless you can write VERY fast or don't need much to go on. (I can write 3-4 500 word articles on iWriter in an hour if I really set my mind to it.)
    Exactly.

    Enough said!

    Btw.. not trying to be negative here, just think it's BS that writers are compared to less than minimum wage workers
  • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
    Originally Posted by Elluminati View Post

    Since you misread what I wrote, you go on and drive the hell out of that garbage truck and make that "dirty" money

    I don't recall endorsing iWriter as the ideal place to write. Just like everyone else putting their 2 cents up regarding the question of this thread, so did I. An extremely good writer is versatile, consistent, and knows his or her s***. And an extremely good writer isn't going to work their butt off for bull**** pay, so that $2 hooker reference is pretty lame, bruh.

    You seem to be fixated on article writing:
    Work your butt off so someone can hurry up and throw your article (good or not) on their website, slap a bunch of links on it... rinse and repeat.

    Not every writer is an article writer. Some of us EXTREMELY GOOD WRITERS have corporate clients and write content for offline purposes.

    What works for other people may not work for you. And even EXTREMELY GOOD WRITERS make a nice passive income from sites such as Constant Content where they can set their own prices.

    Unfortunately, the Internet is ridiculously overpopulated with poorly written articles, but that doesn't mean they are the products of sites such as iWriter, Textbroker, etc. Someone's dog could've written the article for all we know, but who cares ?! :rolleyes:
    Taken out of context. If you are THAT person, why are you defending such systems like Iwriter that pays people less than minimum wage for their efforts?

    I can write magazine quality articles, but be new at the online writing system.. some one recommends I write at a place for less than minimum wage where people at will can reject my article for any reason?

    That's junk!

    They can then steal my content anyways. After the fact.
  • Profile picture of the author Elluminati
    Originally Posted by absoluteallen View Post

    What's an extremely good writer anymore? I read the most popular tech sites, Yahoo, ESPN, etc.. and in the comments section I see blasts about how the articles are poorly written.

    Lets face it; content writers are going the way of $2 hookers.

    Work your butt off so someone can hurry up and throw your article (good or not) on their website, slap a bunch of links on it... rinse and repeat.

    I could make more driving a garbage truck than I could writing for Iwriter.
    Originally Posted by absoluteallen View Post

    Taken out of context. If you are THAT person, why are you defending such systems like Iwriter that pays people less than minimum wage for their efforts?

    I can write magazine quality articles, but be new at the online writing system.. some one recommends I write at a place for less than minimum wage where people at will can reject my article for any reason?

    That's junk!

    They can then steal my content anyways. After the fact.

    The man asked a question about being an Elite writer on iWriter and some of us have attempted to answer his question. He didn't ask for reasons why he shouldn't write for iWriter. There are other threads for that. And I'm not advocating that people write for them to make minimum wage, that's why I brought up Constant Content where they have the opportunity to sell their articles for prices well beyond minimum wage.

    And you are being negative, which is your right. So, we get your point that these content mills are pretty sh***y, but just like Amanda T said, she was making pretty decent pay and Joe has found regular clients. That goes to show that you can't generalize anything.

    And for those who do write for iWriter whose articles get rejected, keep tabs on your s***. This is where you run it through CopyScape and make sure those marks aren't using it. And you also take that rejected content and put it on a site, such as Constant Content, and price it however you wish. It's called recycling. Learn the writing game...
  • Profile picture of the author wrongnumber
    well it maybe poor income... but pays off...
  • Profile picture of the author ExpertSEOServices
    WOW these are super low rates. I think you are better off offering your services here and on other forums!
    Even better offering your writing skills on fiverr!
  • Profile picture of the author Victoralexon
    Originally Posted by fin View Post

    I've not been on for a while and it's changed so much.

    Does anyone know how many articles you need to be allowed to write elite articles, and how much the new payments are for each word length?

    Cheers.
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