Ok The Truth Is Out There...Where's Scully?????

15 years ago

Originally Posted by marketinggremlin

So I couldn't be more confused. Is there money in internet marketing or isn't there????? I am reading some horrendously conflicting stories. What gives, can anyone give an honest answer? I mean reading depressing stories about people slaving for 2 years and only making $34 dollars that is atrocious! 2 years??? Is it me or am I just missing something. I mean look, I am not expecting to slap up a couple websites, put together some desperate blogs and expect to make bazillions, but 2 years and $34 dollars? I mean that breaks down to a whopping .06 a day (working a business week lol). Who would / could work for that??? Is there light at the end of the IM tunnel or is everyone full of fluff?? Please help

Hi, I guess its up to each individual what kind of internet marketing he is into, right? For I know nowadays, IM is one of the most fast growing earning job. Of course, who would choose to have only $34 for 2 years, thats ridiculous

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Alan Petersen

15 years ago

From the site on your signature you're making Residual Millionaires right now. So is that truth or fluff? Are you a residual millionaire working from home?

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marketinggremlin

15 years ago

Originally Posted by Alan Petersen

From the site on your signature you're making Residual Millionaires right now. So is that truth or fluff? Are you a residual millionaire working from home?

To clarify the company on the website is indeed making residual millionaires. I am not yet one, have not yet claimed to be, but am working on it. Yes, I am working from home but I would certainly hope that if after 2+ years working from home in my niche, if I haven't made more than $34, I would regroup...lol. Truth be told, with the website you mentioned I have already made almost 3x what other people have claimed to make in years. I believe that there is potential in IM but am just stunned at some of the posts that I have read...

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grumpyb

15 years ago

There is definitely money to be made BUt it is not IMHO a get rich quick scheme at all. One can be forgiven for thinking that it is because every second or thir post has a link in its signiture to entice you to untold riches just by buying an ebook or joining a program.
I started out selling physical products on line and as a result have spent the last 2 years reading and watching forums like DP and Warrior.
my company sells a lot of stuff on line.
Over the past 2 years I have ( I hope) learned enough to make me confident to lay down a plan to make money from web sites BUT the point is that only now after 2 years am I confident that I have a plan of action that will produce me the result I desire.
So yes there is money but IMHO if you have no real knowledge of SEO web site or internet then the chances of making a quick buck are very remote.
Some here suggest writng articles but I think the days of sub standard spun articles is over and only quality unique on topic articles are realy any use so unless you are a great writer then I dont think there is along term future in that.
My advice is that it will take time Read this forum ask questions do Google searches Learn Learn learn only then wil you have a chance to make it a serious business.
Remember If an Offer Sounds Too Good to be True! then it usually is!

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marketinggremlin

15 years ago

GrumpyB-

I appreciate your words. I certainly hope that there is money on the internet. I have a lot riding on it. I have parked here on Warrior and plan to be around for a while. I guess I was just a little concerned after reading some rather depressing threads lol...

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rafaelapolinario 15 years ago

It really depend more into you, how would you like to earn money, how long do you want to earn the amount you want to earn, what is your gameplan to achieve it. Really, there is a lot of way its just all depends to you. Go visit my sig. you might discover something that might be helpful to you.

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- Andyhenry 15 years ago
  
  Here's the truth....
  
  It is NOT real.
  
  99% of IMers are not making money.
  
  There are a lot of people making a few dollars a month that are spending more than they're making, and when you factor-in the time it's taking them - they're actually losing money every month.
  
  Some people make a few hundred bucks here and there but in real terms it is costing them more than they're making.
  
  Some people have made a few thousand dollars - but spent more than that to do it (buying ebooks, trying PPC, buying tools) and so are actually still in the negative when you add it up.
  
  This is the big secret - most people don't value their time and when they take 100 hours to make $100 they tell you they made money and they kid themselves that it's true.
  
  In reality - most people are not making much profit at IM and very few actually make enough to not need a job.
  
  Now, with that said - the numbers are so high that the 1% actually making decent money still ends up being quite a lot of people (probably thousands).
  
  IM is a journey and things change along the way, you learn things, your life throws in a few distractions and your perspective changes.
  
  It is perfectly possible to make a good living online but the truth is that most people never do.
  
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hefeg

15 years ago

Is that the truth Andyhenry?? Is there really no money in it??

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Andyhenry 15 years ago

Originally Posted by hefeg

Is that the truth Andyhenry?? Is there really no money in it??

Not for most people.....

There IS money (I get my fair share and I know others that do), but most people never make enough to call a decent living.

That's just the way it is - is it really surprising?

Most businesses fail in the first 18 months - just because you don't need more than a computer and internet connection to try IM doesn't mean you're going to make money.

There are a lot of people deluding themselves into thinking they're making money so that they don't have to accept the reality of their situation and come up with a different plan for their future.

Many people telling you that there's easy money to be had have an alternate agenda (they're trying to sell you 'the solution').

So the answer is - try it out and see whether you're going to be an exception and make it work.

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stephenh

15 years ago

Action is the key.

I set up a basic review site every week and spend most of my time on market research.

I have whole notebooks of new markets I find every day so I can't see me ever running out and it doesn't seem to matter even if other sites are in the same market. I guess the pie is big enough for all to get a taste.

Just get that first $100 in your account and then you replace hope with knowing then do it over and over again.

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Andyhenry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by stephenh

Action is the key.

I set up a basic review site every week and spend most of my time on market research.

I have whole notebooks of new markets I find every day so I can't see me ever running out and it doesn't seem to matter even if other sites are in the same market. I guess the pie is big enough for all to get a taste.

Just get that first $100 in your account and then you replace hope with knowing then do it over and over again.

Stephen

That sounds valid - but in reality most people that make their first $100 do NOT end up creating any decent income.

When you consider the time it took to make that $100 - you could probably work at McDonalds and get the same return.

When you start out it's easy to forget this stuff and spend 3 months (or 2 years) doing stuff and make a few hundred bucks here and there and think you're doing well - when you consider the time you spent - you're way behind licking envelopes or other minimum wage work.

Hope is the reason many people keep banging their heads against the wall.

It's great to make a few hundred bucks but if it doesn't even cover the cost of your time - you can't realistically think that it's a sign that you're on the road to riches.

The sad reality is that people usually can't reproduce the same thing and keep printing $100 bills.

This is what this issue is all about - making 'something' is not the same as building a business or even replacing your day job.

It's certainly possible and people do it, but it's not normal.

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marketinggremlin

15 years ago

Yeah but AndyHenry the same could be said of the rest of the world in the rest of everything that is done...98% of the world scratches and claws for 5% of the money and 2% enjoy the bounty. Its a very small percentage of people in the world that enjoy the wealth of money that exists. The rest of the world runs on the rodent wheel chasing the tiny piece of cheese that almost everybody else is after while the the fat rats have taken over the cheese store...time to leave the wheel!!! You are right its not 'normal' but what success in life is really normal. Vision / dreams are what have always separated the 2% from the other 98%.

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Andyhenry

15 years ago

Originally Posted by marketinggremlin

Yeah but AndyHenry the same could be said of the rest of the world in the rest of everything that is done...98% of the world scratches and claws for 5% of the money and 2% enjoy the bounty. Its a very small percentage of people in the world that enjoy the wealth of money that exists. The rest of the world runs on the rodent wheel chasing the tiny piece of cheese that almost everybody else is after while the the fat rats have taken over the cheese store...time to leave the wheel!!! You are right its not 'normal' but what success in life is really normal. Vision / dreams are what have always separated the 2% from the other 98%.

I agree that success is not normal - but I don't believe dreams are the difference.

Action - consistent, focused, well-planned action is the main difference in my experience.

Most people come into IM without a plan, usually without resources or experience and want quick and easy answers to how to make money - that usually means they need to follow a plan to the letter in order to make it work.

Most people do NOT follow anything consistently - that's the main reason for failure.

Now, most people like to think of themselves as intelligent resourceful people but when you look at what they do with their time - it's not surprising that they're not getting great results, but because they're "busy" they think they're building a business - until the money doesn't come it, then the excuses start.

I would never say there's no money there because I've been successful and I know many people that have - However, to be realistic, it's not normal and thinking that all the talk in the forums and all the "I'll show you how to make money" WSOs are actually people who are really making money is just insane.

'Most' people running a WSO on how to make money are not making money, apart from their WSOs.

Selling repeated information based on lack of actual success implementing it is the IM newbie way - Most newbies learn the information and then sell it before actually implementing it.

This creates a false illusion that all these people are successfully making good money - which is just not true.

I'm not trying to discourage anyone from trying - just to get real about it and treat it seriously if you want serious results.

Andy

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marketinggremlin

15 years ago

Ok that answer at least makes me feel better. Not that it matters, and not that you care, but I agree with you. I don't think its going to be a lollipop ride. I hope that its hard work, because nothing is going to feel better than to be at the winning end of that experience. But I was just starting to get the impression that it was more of a 'don't even waste your time' attitude. Not that that would have stopped me, but it certainly may have smarted a bit...lol...

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