Can I have a WSO and Warrior for hire thread for same service?

Paul Myers

12 years ago

Can I have a WSO and Warrior for hire thread on the same service?

In a word: Yes.

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WillR

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Paul Myers

In a word: Yes.

Technically, wouldn't the WSO price have to be lower than the price being charged in the 'Warrior for Hire' thread? I guess my question is, is a Warrior Special Offer an offer that is only offered to Warriors... or is it an offer that is only offered to Warriors in the WSO thread?

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REHughes

12 years ago

I was just wondering the same thing Will?

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wordwizard

12 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

Technically, wouldn't the WSO price have to be lower than the price being charged in the 'Warrior for Hire' thread? I guess my question is, is a Warrior Special Offer an offer that is only offered to Warriors... or is it an offer that is only offered to Warriors in the WSO thread?

Interesting question. I guess I'll have to back and reread the "Rules"...

To the best of my knowledge, it says that a WSO is an offer that is only offered to Warriors, not to Warriors in the WSO thread.

Would love to know for sure.

Elisabeth

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WillR

12 years ago

Originally Posted by wordwizard

Interesting question. I guess I'll have to back and reread the "Rules"...

To the best of my knowledge, it says that a WSO is an offer that is only offered to Warriors, not to Warriors in the WSO thread.

Would love to know for sure.

Elisabeth

I would assume you are correct. Some people will post a WSO thread that is nothing more than a quick description linking out to the actual special offer for Warriors on their own website. So technically their WSO is not in the WSO section, it's on their website but that's still ok.

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lgibbon

Banned 12 years ago

Originally Posted by WillR

Technically, wouldn't the WSO price have to be lower than the price being charged in the 'Warrior for Hire' thread? I guess my question is, is a Warrior Special Offer an offer that is only offered to Warriors... or is it an offer that is only offered to Warriors in the WSO thread?

3. A Warrior Special Offer Means The Price You Give Must Be Better Than The Price The Public At Large Can Get. (This is not a "buy my product" forum, it is a "Special Offer" forum)

Rule 3 seems to suggest only "special offers" qualify as WSO's
If it's available anywhere else there's nothing special about it.

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princecapri

12 years ago

Yes, you can.

Try WSO for exposure, and Service section for longer visibility...

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Expressarticles

12 years ago

Thank you for this information!

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Michael Meaney

12 years ago

I've always assumed that if both threads make the same offer and it's better than anywhere else, they can both exist on WF simultaneously.

Although the Warriors for Hire or classifieds etc can be priced higher than the WSO thread, it can't work the other way round.

That's only been my assumption though, and might be completely wrong.

I've run the exact same offer in the WSO board and the classifieds at the same time, but only that specific offer on this forum and nowhere else.

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JeremiahSay

12 years ago

I was about to post a service on both WSO and Warrior for Hire.. Hmm if that's the case, which one would you guys recommend me to post first? OR post both at the same time (personally, I don't think thats a good idea right?)

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ShaneGorry

12 years ago

Originally Posted by JeremiahSay

I was about to post a service on both WSO and Warrior for Hire.. Hmm if that's the case, which one would you guys recommend me to post first? OR post both at the same time (personally, I don't think thats a good idea right?)

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If you can afford both then post on both. Different people browse different areas of the forum. If you only choose one though I would recommend the warriors for hire as this is where more people will look for...well...warriors for hire.

Linking to the thread in your sig seems to work for a lot of the service providers on the forum.

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Daniel Evans

12 years ago

Originally Posted by JeremiahSay

I was about to post a service on both WSO and Warrior for Hire.. Hmm if that's the case, which one would you guys recommend me to post first? OR post both at the same time (personally, I don't think thats a good idea right?)

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You'll probably find that people browsing the WSO forum are looking for an opportunity rather than to work with someone and your sales will probably reflect this. It's going to depend on what you are offering though.

If you are selling at the same price in both threads you should name your products slighty differently so you can see where the sales are coming from at a glance from your sales notification emails.

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Scott Burton

12 years ago

Originally Posted by Daniel Evans

You'll probably find that people browsing the WSO forum are looking for an opportunity rather than to work with someone and your sales will probably reflect this. It's going to depend on what you are offering though.

If you are selling at the same price in both threads you should name your products slighty differently so you can see where the sales are coming from at a glance from your sales notification emails.

Very true. Most of the time when I'm browsing the WSOs I am not looking for someone to work with. Although I will sometimes. I mostly browse WSOs to see if something strikes my interest as a new or expanded venture.

I like the idea of changing the names slightly so you can tell which is from WFH and which is WSO if they are the same price, but personally I wouldn't put them at the same price.

Originally Posted by Justin Stowe

Even if you can use both, I don't know if I'd recommend it.

Bumping your Warrior for Hire thread will probably keep it on the first page for a good amount of time- half a day if not longer.

Bumping a WSO? Depending on the day- a few hours tops.

Plus you'll most likely have a better targeted audience in the For Hire section.

WFH doesn't have the opportunity seeking element that WSO has, so the traffic is probably more targeted for what you want. And bumping, as mentioned will probably stay highly visible a lot longer.

While the WSO section probably gets a large share more traffic, there's also more activity to bump your offer down, and there's more people who aren't looking for someone to hire, so your traffic, though likely much lower in WFH is a lot more targeted.

Originally Posted by rosetrees

Rule 3, as I've often said, is the most abused and ignored rule on the forum. I'd be willing to bet that most WSOs aren't even available elsewhere.

How many times do you read a thread where someone tells you they are working on their first WSO. They don't say they are working on their first product which will ALSO be available as a WSO.

If a WSO is available at the Warrior Forum as a WSO only, and isn't offerred anywhere else at any price, doesn't that fit the "A Warrior Special Offer Means The Price You Give Must Be Better Than The Price The Public At Large Can Get." since the public at large can't get it?

Personally, I would think that a WSO would be priced lower or have other added value compared to a WFH offer, because if it's in WFH, where is the special offer?

The WFH thread is longer term, the WSO is more of a 'shot in the arm' or 'kick start' to get things rolling. (Or at least in my mind it is) People who look at WSO as the end-all be-all of their business, are limiting themselves significantly imho. (If you have a product with a large potential market, and you make it available ONLY through a WSO and nowhere else, you limit who is exposed to your offer, and we all know that if your offer is in front of 10,000 reasonably targeted prospects, you'll get less results than if it is in front of 100,000 or 500,000 similarly targeted prospects.)

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Amitywill 12 years ago

If you want both a WSO thread and a WF for hire thread
to get max traffic just redirect the for hire traffic to your
WSO thread.

That covers rule 3.

Simples.
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Jack Coxill

12 years ago

I would say the price of the WSO could be the same as the Warrior's for hire ad price. The reason being that the WSO price is for Warriors only, and since the Warriors for hire ad is still in the Warrior forum it should be ok.

Apart from of course all the guests that are on here, and could purchase it? I don't know, I've confused myself lol.... Back to the cave.

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rosetrees

12 years ago

Rule 3, as I've often said, is the most abused and ignored rule on the forum. I'd be willing to bet that most WSOs aren't even available elsewhere.

How many times do you read a thread where someone tells you they are working on their first WSO. They don't say they are working on their first product which will ALSO be available as a WSO.

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CDarklock 12 years ago

Originally Posted by rosetrees

Rule 3, as I've often said, is the most abused and ignored rule on the forum. I'd be willing to bet that most WSOs aren't even available elsewhere.

Then the price you get on the WSO is better than the price you get elsewhere, which would be "you can't have it at any price."

My bone of contention about rule #3 is that the general public can buy a WSO.

You don't have to be logged in to buy or sell a WSO. You can even buy or sell WSOs while you're banned.

I'm of the personal opinion that if you are not logged in, hyperlinks in the WSO forum should be stripped. If you want the price or the offer displayed there, either you will log in, or you can't have it. That would restrict WSO sales to members of the forum, which is exactly as it should be.

But I don't make the rules. I just chime in whenever this discussion comes up and add the same two cents I've been adding to it for over a year and a half.
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- ShaneGorry 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  My bone of contention about rule #3 is that the general public can buy a WSO.
  
  It's not my bone of contention however there truely is nothing "special" that is exclusive for warriors about WSO's. Promotion of WSO's to affiliate lists is a big part of what Warrior plus and JVZoo are set up to do. I'd never even heard of a WSO until someone sent me an email promoting one some years ago.
  
  But let's face it, if there were money in WOO's (Warrior Only Offers) there would probably be such a forum set up already. And yes I know it's not all about the money, my creditors however are yet to be convinced.
  
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  CDarklock 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by ShaneGorry
  
  Promotion of WSO's to affiliate lists
  
  ...used to be against the rules.
  
  But let's face it, if there were money in WOO's (Warrior Only Offers) there would probably be such a forum set up already.
  
  There was. It was called the WSO forum. But then it changed.
  
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  Ken Strong 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  There was. It was called the WSO forum. But then it changed.
  
  Yes, indeed. But back on topic: Just my opinion, but I don't see a problem with having the same offer simultaneously both as a WSO and in one of the other paid advertising sections, at the same price. (It would hardly make sense to offer two different prices within the same forum, anway.)
  
  A WSO doesn't have to be available anywhere else. But if it is, it has to cost more.
  
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  ShaneGorry 12 years ago
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  ...used to be against the rules.
  
  Originally Posted by CDarklock
  
  There was. It was called the WSO forum. But then it changed.
  
  I guess if I spent more time here back when that was the case I probably would have known that.
  
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WebPen

12 years ago

Even if you can use both, I don't know if I'd recommend it.

Bumping your Warrior for Hire thread will probably keep it on the first page for a good amount of time- half a day if not longer.

Bumping a WSO? Depending on the day- a few hours tops.

Plus you'll most likely have a better targeted audience in the For Hire section.

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1Dina

12 years ago

so much help on this forum! thanks guys :-)

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1Dina

12 years ago

So if im starting out and looking to offer a service it would make sense to advertise on the for hire section?

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djlest

12 years ago

i would have to agree with the burb

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Paul Myers 12 years ago

Although the Warriors for Hire or classifieds etc can be priced higher than the WSO thread, it can't work the other way round.

Thanks, Mick. You nailed it.

As far as the nature of the WSO forum, that change was inevitable when the forum became a platform, rather than just a community.

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