Who Offers, In Your Opinion, The Best Niche Site System?

by JoshN
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Hey Guys,

I'm new to this forum but far from new to forums in general

I Was turned onto the idea of information marketing from the book "six figure second income" initially and started doing some more research. As I researched more I was shocked to see how deep the rabbit hole goes.


I started listening to podcasts several hours a day from a single site and with each podcast I found out there were 5 other individuals doing the same thing with a slightly different spin.

I started visiting others sites and those guys were mostly making a lot more money.

To give you a little background on me.
-Formerly a sales guy from the IT storage industry
-Unemployed currently
-Looking to go into my own business
-History with computers from 10+ years ago when HTML was written in notepad

I am looking to learn a business and although I'm unemployed and most would say I have lots of time to bumble around a figure everything out on my own, I am looking for a guide or a system, a methodology that I can learn and implement as a base that I can build on.

The endless searching on which wordpress theme and plugins and how to set them all up and best strategy for backlinking is giving me paralysis by analysis and I need to move forward.

From my research though it seems like building niche sites in bulk and then building out the winners into authority sites, outsourcing most of the content writing and backlinking with me doing the keyword research would be the model I'm looking for.

I think I know how to do this already or I could figure it out but really I'm most worried about wasting 60-90 days, not seeing my pages on google and only realizing it was a big waste of time and money after it was already done.

I am trying to mitigate that risk with a system/model from someone who has made money doing it. Most of the gurus out there make a large bulk of their money from their affiliates.
#niche #offers #opinion #site #system
  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    Niche profit classroom is probably the best geared at training you to build multiple profitable niche sites. They constantly keep updating stuff to keep up with trends, Google and everything else relevant to creating success with your sites the fastest.
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  • Profile picture of the author Kay King
    I wouldn't call it "mitigating" - you are looking for a solution to build profitable sites without having to take risk of spending time doing it.
    Building multiple sites is a good idea - starting out with "bulk sites" isn't.

    You don't need to look at every potential wordpress theme and plugin - you need to decide WHAT YOU WANT in a theme - find one that you like and work with that theme to begin with. There are tons of recommendations on this forum on easiest/best themes if you just look for them. You don't need to know about every plugin - only the few you need to protect and enhance your site - lists of those are on this forum in many threads.

    You can't start a business without a risk of losing time or money. It doesn't take that long to build your own site - you can add content to it in a few minutes a day. You aren't talking about 8 hr days for 2-3 months if all you want is to launch niche sites. The results you get will tell you which should be developed further.

    You can outsource content creation if you need to - and trade money instead of time. However, if you don't learn site creation yourself and understand it - you have no basis to judge whether niche blog you buy are any good or not.

    Bottom line is - if you want to build an income, get to work and build it. You will make mistakes - but you will learn to correct them and avoid them going forward. It's a learning process and you can't succeed if you don't get involved. That's reality.

    kay
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    • Profile picture of the author TMW
      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      Building multiple sites is a good idea - starting out with "bulk sites" isn't.
      Can you explain why?

      I've read that building one large site is better than building multiple smaller sites in your own industry. Of course, I'm not talking about profiting from pure IM. I'm talking about profiting from the biz that comes from doing SEO for a biz that you then profit from by doing conventional work.
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  • Profile picture of the author DriveTheGoods
    Hey Josh,

    I saw you post. Unfortunately, I do not have an answer for you. I am in the same boat. I have an IT degree but have spent most of my adult life in the Outdoor Industry. Work dried up for me in that industry so I am currently trying to get online income streams up and going.

    I have three projects in various stages of development, but feel as though I am constantly on the fringe of gaining momentum.

    I have bought into a few systems with little return in investment.

    I think it would be great to partner up with a few people who are at similar time in their development and form a sort of collective for support and encouragement and knowledge sharing.

    Let me know if you have interest.

    Either way, good luck.

    Cheers,

    Jon
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  • Profile picture of the author drewfioravanti
    Your success with Internet marketing is dependent upon how you view the first $0.25 you make after you have put in 160 hours of work. If you look at it as making a quarter for working 4 weeks, full time then you will get discouraged and quit. If you look at that quarter as proof that it works, and use it to motivate you to work another 160 hours, you will have success. If you look at unsuccessful attempts as learning experiences and not failures, you will succeed. Don't be afraid to take action and don't be afraid to fail

    I follow Pat Flynn at Smart Passive Income, Spencer Haws at Niche Pursuits and Chris Guthrie at Make Money On The Internet.

    Following what they teach, I have gone from pennies my first month, in August, to easily over $2K by the end of this month.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshN
      Originally Posted by jamesrich1 View Post

      Niche profit classroom is probably the best geared at training you to build multiple profitable niche sites. They constantly keep updating stuff to keep up with trends, Google and everything else relevant to creating success with your sites the fastest.
      I will check it out, thanks for the heads up. How about the guy who runs it? does he make significant money doing what he teaches?

      Thanks

      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post

      I wouldn't call it "mitigating" - you are looking for a solution to build profitable sites without having to take risk of spending time doing it.
      Building multiple sites is a good idea - starting out with "bulk sites" isn't.
      Could you give me a little more clarity on the difference between bulk and multiple sites. I am guessing you meen buying bulk sites with no intention of building them out in hopes to flip them. I saw a padcast from a guy making a lot of money doing this but I'm assuming it takes a lot of money to buy in great enough bulk as well.


      Originally Posted by Kay King View Post


      Bottom line is - if you want to build an income, get to work and build it. You will make mistakes - but you will learn to correct them and avoid them going forward. It's a learning process and you can't succeed if you don't get involved. That's reality.

      kay
      Absolutely agreed! When I said a program I want to make sure I am involved. I don't want to ship off the entire process to someone else. I figure if this whole thing implodes and fails I can still become an SEO consultant for other companies with the skills I've acquired. I just hate writing. I find it really mundane, so I was hoping to offload a bit of that and reinvest my time in the keyword and backlinking. I feel like these are the real value adds that can help any website/business.




      Originally Posted by DriveTheGoods View Post

      Hey Josh,

      I saw you post. Unfortunately, I do not have an answer for you. I am in the same boat. I have an IT degree but have spent most of my adult life in the Outdoor Industry. Work dried up for me in that industry so I am currently trying to get online income streams up and going.

      I have three projects in various stages of development, but feel as though I am constantly on the fringe of gaining momentum.

      I have bought into a few systems with little return in investment.

      I think it would be great to partner up with a few people who are at similar time in their development and form a sort of collective for support and encouragement and knowledge sharing.

      Let me know if you have interest.

      Either way, good luck.

      Cheers,

      Jon
      I do have interest and I think a group would be great. Some of the help I know I need as a newbie which is guidance with keyword selection we couldn't help each other with, but there are countless other areas where a group of people all trying stuff together and reporting back successes/failures is massively beneficial.
      Kind of like a mini version of this forum.

      I'll PM you if I have the ability, I think I might have to have a certain number of posts on this board before being able to PM.

      Originally Posted by drewfioravanti View Post

      Your success with Internet marketing is dependent upon how you view the first $0.25 you make after you have put in 160 hours of work. If you look at it as making a quarter for working 4 weeks, full time then you will get discouraged and quit. If you look at that quarter as proof that it works, and use it to motivate you to work another 160 hours, you will have success. If you look at unsuccessful attempts as learning experiences and not failures, you will succeed. Don't be afraid to take action and don't be afraid to fail

      I follow Pat Flynn at, Spencer Haws and Chris Guthrie at Make Money On The Internet[/URL].

      Following what they teach, I have gone from pennies my first month, in August, to easily over $2K by the end of this month.
      I understand passive income and I wouldn't get discouraged, IF I was trending in the right direction. I was thinking of investing in real estate before this... talk about a long time until ROI, god its awful.

      Spencer Haws is one of the guys that did a podcast interview, and I'm not sure why I didnt check out his website more thoroughly.
      From this report he made 103k in 9 months from adsense alone. Thats impressive. I dont know how many sites he has, how much he invested to get there or how long those sites have been around but still money talks.

      nichepursuits.[com]/year-to-date-income-report-september-2011

      Pat Flynn I found yesterday. He seems like a smart guy on the authority website side and makes crazy money. If I'm not mistaken he makes some good money from about half a dozen authority websites and has only recently dabbled in the niche business although he was quite sucessfull pulling over 1k/month from a niche website he created during a contest.
      If you look at his earnings report though it looks like most others. Affiliate earnings (which I am guessing are a direct result of his blog, not his niche/ authority websites) are whats making him 80+ percent of his income every month.

      smartpassiveincome.[com]/my-monthly-report-february-2012

      I will check out the third person

      BTW I consider 2k/month very sucessful for 6 months in. You're already ahead of some of the experts. Great Job!

      Thanks all that have responded so far VERY helpful. I look forward to learning more and meaningfully contributing to this board in the future.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Having been around Internet Marketing for a while here's what I would do. And before I tell you what I would do I'll say I'm actually doing it. And the reason I'm doing what I'm about to describe is because I lunged at a lot of shiny objects to get to the point where I figured out it’s not about shiny objects.

    1. Find something you like and you know about. Yes, you can find a profitable market or niche and try to cash it. But if you don't actually enjoy what you're doing failure often comes quickly. Trust me on this. People who know how to push cash buttons in markets outside of their field of expertise most often leaned what buttons to push working at something they both understood going in and enjoyed working it. If you get this part right the rest is simple.

    2. Identify a product or service based on what you know about the market. This is why #1 is so important. Another reason is, if you know about a market it's likely you can relate to your buyers. That means you understand their hopes, dreams, desires and what makes them tick. With this understanding you'll know how to position yourself to serve them.

    3. Create a community around your market. Set up a Blog. Add great content to it often. Get guest posters to post. Put up a link partner page and trade links with others. Go to article directories and get the best articles you can find on your niche and post them, giving the author credit. Be mindful of keywords and the whole SEO trip but DO NOT be a slave to it. Go to Youtube and find videos that fit your niche and ask the video creator if you can use his or her video, then give that person credit and maybe a link. Write relevant and objective reviews on stuff in your market. And of course, while you're creating this community, be building a list.

    4. If you do the stuff in #3 you're going to start seeing a lot of traffic and should be getting a lot of signups to your list. Once you've built trust, start offering affiliate products or creating your own stuff and offer it to your list. That’s it. It takes some time to set this up but once it’s going it snowballs really fast.

    The whole trick to marketing is providing value. The mistake most people make is they try to start selling on day one before anyone knows or trusts them. Build a community with great resources for your visitors and the sales will naturally follow.
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  • Profile picture of the author jamesrich1
    JoshN the teacher from Niche Profit classroom makes a significant amount from what he teaches and he also makes money from Niche Profit Classroom.
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  • Profile picture of the author drewfioravanti
    I'd be interested in some sort of mastermind group as well. Even if none of us are masterminds at all I'm sure we all could learn something from each other.
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    • Profile picture of the author JoshN
      Originally Posted by drewfioravanti View Post

      I'd be interested in some sort of mastermind group as well. Even if none of us are masterminds at all I'm sure we all could learn something from each other.
      I tried sending Jon a PM and I cant yet. I need to have 50 posts but yes lets continue this conversation some how and see what we can figure out. Obviously 2 responses already means there might be some interest in this.

      you can shoot me an email at joshn(at)divcomgroup(dot)com

      Best,
      Josh
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      • Profile picture of the author Kay King
        Bulk = mass or magnitude

        So site that are purchased in bulk are just a bunch of sites. If you buy a bunch of sites at one time when you are new to site building - it's easy to become confused as all the sites will need work at once.

        Multiple = involving several parts

        I mean building one site, getting the promotion and traffic started and then building another site. In one week you might build a new site, outsource more content for another site, get some backlinks for yet another site.

        It's a more controlled way of developing niche sites. If you develop a 4 week plan for launching new sites it's easy to know which site needs what based on when it was built.

        I've seen new marketers buy a bunch of sites - and then have no idea what to do with them. A planned approach is better to me - but that's just me.

        Yes, authority sites are best - but smaller sites can be quite profitable, too. When one of your sites is doing very well - develop it into a larger site. Small earning sites should be left online as they can surprise you with time.

        It's not always best to go for the "big hit" with a site. Several sites earning modestly can add up to a good income. Sometimes they take less maintenance than a bigger authority site, too.

        There's no one way to do anything online - do what suits you best.

        kay
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  • Profile picture of the author JoshN
    Lol trying to take action I'm already getting hung up on a keyword tool. I've wasted at least 3 hours so far trying to decide which one to go with.. Paralysis by analysis...

    I think I just figure a little more research in the front end will save me time/money in the long run.
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