What can I expect from a $30 article (1500 words)?

by Wide
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Howdy,

I'm trying to find someone to write me a 1500 word article. Normally I pay ~$15 for that size, but this time i'm going to pay twice that much (30). I know some people pay a lot more than that, but that's my limit for this project.

What kind of quality should I expect to receive for $30? I mean, the examples they send me looks like what I normally receive. If that is the case, then I cant see a reason to pay 30 instead of 15 though -but I would like to receive better quality than I normally get ... is my price too low?

How much do you guys pay for a 1-2000 word article and what quality is it in? Mind so share some examples (either here or PM)?
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  • Profile picture of the author NACAdam
    Demand high quality for that price .. It would depend alot on what you are using the article for ...Is it a pre sales if it is a well written sales article or pre sales article ( which means that you ultimately end up making a sale ) then you will probably make your money back several times over... So if you make more than $30 then I would say its worth it however I say use articlez.com can't go wrong thats far and away the best article marketing service
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Originally Posted by Wide View Post

    Howdy,

    I'm trying to find someone to write me a 1500 word article. Normally I pay ~$15 for that size, but this time i'm going to pay twice that much (30). I know some people pay a lot more than that, but that's my limit for this project.

    What kind of quality should I expect to receive for $30? I mean, the examples they send me looks like what I normally receive. If that is the case, then I cant see a reason to pay 30 instead of 15 though -but I would like to receive better quality than I normally get ... so, that's my issue.

    How much do you guys pay for a 1-2000 word article and what quality is it in? Mind so share some examples (either here or PM)?
    You can definitely get very high quality work for $30, you just gotta be careful about choosing a good writer. I always ask for a short custom sample (less than 100 words - something I can use for other things so the writer doesn't balk or think I'm trying to screw them over) to get a better idea of their skills. There are plenty of sketchy writers out there who steal samples. Or teams with only one talented writer and 5 crappy ones. lol

    I'm lucky that at this point I have a few talented writers who I trust. And I definitely think you get what you pay for.

    Where are you looking for a writer?
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  • Profile picture of the author Tadresources
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    No one can afford to spend much time on an article when the pay is 2 cents a word. It will be a crap shoot.
    I agree, but if you find a talented writer then they won't need a lot of time. The couple of writers I use can get me a great 1500 word article in less than 24 hours for that price. Of course it depends on what the subject is and what you're using it for. I've also paid 3X that for work.
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  • Profile picture of the author WebPen
    Originally Posted by NACAdam View Post

    Demand high quality for that price
    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    No one can afford to spend much time on an article when the pay is 2 cents a word. It will be a crap shoot.
    Gotta love IM.
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  • Profile picture of the author Wide
    It's for a Solar Energy blog.
    Have been trying to get writers from Scriptlance, but you can't expect to receive articles matching the examples they send you. Guess that's a never-ending problem.

    Maybe I should try to make a topic in the "Wanted - Members Looking To Hire You" forum instead.
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    Some people suggest that I am an excellent writer, and I would not touch your job for less than $150...

    I guess that means that at the rates you are willing to pay, you will find a lesser writer than myself. :p

    But the more important question is, "How do YOU define quality?"

    A longer word count is no guarantee of better quality content.

    It is like a SEO writer who says 15 times in an article, "the right product for you".

    I asked you to write an article, not a damn sales pitch. I will do my own selling, thank you very much.

    Quality is something that the reader can identify, without thinking about it... But it is hard to teach that to people you hire to write for you.

    Either the person writing for you creates good quality content before you hire them, OR you are doomed to get junk.

    More money does not equal better quality content in the writing industry -- sad to say... The only way to ensure better quality content is to hire better quality writers...

    And most of those folks know what to charge you for their time -- even if you don't know what you should pay them.

    My advice is to find a good writer first, then negotiate a price that both of you consider to be fair.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      More money does not equal better quality content in the writing industry -- sad to say... The only way to ensure better quality content is to hire better quality writers...
      Then we are back to question #1 :p
      Where do you find better quality writers? Have been getting a couple of $100-150 bids on my article as well, but I highly doubt they will be able to match the quality you (example) can deliver, same goes with articles in the $30-50 range i guess.

      1500 words, well - can be anything above 1000 i guess. I just wan't an in-dept article without filler content. Normally those type of articles match that word count. The 1500 words was just to make it clear that I want more than the normal 500 word ezinearticle ... article

      Hope that made sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Sylviane
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      Some people suggest that I am an excellent writer, and I would not touch your job for less than $150...

      I guess that means that at the rates you are willing to pay, you will find a lesser writer than myself. :p

      But the more important question is, "How do YOU define quality?"

      A longer word count is no guarantee of better quality content.

      It is like a SEO writer who says 15 times in an article, "the right product for you".

      I asked you to write an article, not a damn sales pitch. I will do my own selling, thank you very much.

      Quality is something that the reader can identify, without thinking about it... But it is hard to teach that to people you hire to write for you.

      Either the person writing for you creates good quality content before you hire them, OR you are doomed to get junk.

      More money does not equal better quality content in the writing industry -- sad to say... The only way to ensure better quality content is to hire better quality writers...

      And most of those folks know what to charge you for their time -- even if you don't know what you should pay them.

      My advice is to find a good writer first, then negotiate a price that both of you consider to be fair.
      Really, thank you for this reply. As a writer myself, I'd say that it's excellent
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Ken_Caudill View Post

    No one can afford to spend much time on an article when the pay is 2 cents a word. It will be a crap shoot.
    This.

    Originally Posted by Wide View Post

    is my price too low?
    It depends what you're trying to buy.

    The word "article" means very different things to different people.

    If you want something that's likely to turn out to be a chunk of basically readable text about the subject, with the right keywords in it, with which you can fill a good space on your site (to "get some content up") and which you can also submit to various other places where the quality of the content isn't too closely examined, and get some low-grade backlinks but little if any traffic out of it, it may do the job.

    If you want high quality content to which others (with relevant publications/sites/ezines) will voluntarily link so that you can get some targeted traffic (and/or relevant backlinks) out of it, I suppose it's just about conceivable that you might get super-lucky, but you'd need to, and the deck is well and truly stacked against you.

    Please excuse the observation that if you want only the former (and your price is arguably a little below the norm even for that), 1,500 words is a funny length of article to be buying. The length is what I could easily use, myself, for a syndicable article, but that would be far more plausible from a writer who knows how to write for syndication, and you'd be looking at a minimum of $0.05 per word for that ($75+ for your article), and you'd typically need a lot of luck, trial and error, experience and reliable recommendations to find that, too - it's not a "trivial outsourcing job".

    (I was typing while Bill posted, above, but I was about to suggest that writers like Anne Pottinger or Bill would probably be looking at a minimum of $150 - $200 for what you've described. And they're the ones whose clients return for more, all the time. Just a thought.)

    Originally Posted by NACAdam View Post

    Demand high quality for that price
    I hope this was intended as an ironic comment ... but I'm genuinely not sure.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      This.

      It depends what you're trying to buy.

      The word "article" means very different things to different people.

      If you want something that's likely to turn out to be a chunk of basically readable text about the subject, with the right keywords in it, with which you can fill a good space on your site (to "get some content up") and which you can also submit to various other places where the quality of the content isn't too closely examined, and get some low-grade backlinks but little if any traffic out of it, it may do the job.

      If you want high quality content to which others (with relevant publications/sites/ezines) will voluntarily link so that you can get some targeted traffic (and/or relevant backlinks) out of it, I suppose it's just about conceivable that you might get super-lucky, but you'd need to, and the deck is well and truly stacked against you.

      Please excuse the observation that if you want only the former (and your price is arguably a little below the norm even for that), 1,500 words is a funny length of article to be buying. The length is what I could easily use, myself, for a syndicable article, but that would be far more plausible from a writer who knows how to write for syndication, and you'd be looking at a minimum of $0.05 per word for that ($75+ for your article), and you'd typically need a lot of luck, trial and error, experience and reliable recommendations to find that, too - it's not a "trivial outsourcing job".

      (I was typing while Bill posted, above, but I was about to suggest that writers like Anne Pottinger or Bill would probably be looking at a minimum of $150 - $200 for what you've described. And they're the ones whose clients return for more, all the time. Just a thought.)



      I hope this was intended as an ironic comment ... but I'm genuinely not sure.
      Thanks for your reply

      I'm not looking for filler content, that's for sure.

      What I'm after is content to put up on ezinearticles, for other websites to syndicate. Then contacting them asking if they would receive additional articles.

      I actually thought that $30 would give me articles matching the quality needed for syndication. Guess I was wrong :p
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by Wide View Post

        What I'm after is content to put up on ezinearticles, for other websites to syndicate.
        I hear you, of course ... but be aware that this kind of passive syndication (though it can be very good, very productive and very successful, and it's actually how I got started, myself) ought to be more or less an afterthought compared with the active syndication (i.e. which you arrange yourself) for your articles. It certainly wouldn't be wise to depend on passive syndication alone, you know? This is far more reliable (and faster).
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        • Profile picture of the author Wide
          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          It certainly wouldn't be wise to depend on passive syndication alone, you know? This is far more reliable (and faster).
          Already read that post, probably more than twice - i'm a sucker for your (and myob) replies :p

          By "passive syndication" you mean waiting for websites to pick up my articles from ezinearticles?

          Then "active syndication" must be when searching google for the sites I want my articles to be published on? Send them an email telling them how much I love the content on their site and I would like to contribute if possible linking some of my articles etc?

          Or am I wrong again :p
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          • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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            Originally Posted by Wide View Post

            By "passive syndication" you mean waiting for websites to pick up my articles from ezinearticles?
            Yes, exactly so ...

            Originally Posted by Wide View Post

            Then "active syndication" must be when searching google for the sites I want my articles to be published on? Send them an email telling them how much I love the content on their site and I would like to contribute if possible linking some of my articles etc?
            Good approach!

            Yes, anyone you approach yourself rather than waiting for them to find you. Not necessarily through Google, though that's one way. (There's the "Directory of Ezines", too, and so on).

            This does work surprisingly well. It's easy to think "Well, if they want content, EZA is the first and only place they'll look". Because that's typically true. But there are also many others who don't know they want content until it's actually offered to them. And those can even be some of the best ones.
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            • Profile picture of the author Wide
              Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

              Yes, exactly so ...



              Good approach!

              Yes, anyone you approach yourself rather than waiting for them to find you. Not necessarily through Google, though that's one way. (There's the "Directory of Ezines", too, and so on).

              This does work surprisingly well. It's easy to think "Well, if they want content, EZA is the first and only place they'll look". Because that's typically true. But there are also many others who don't know they want content until it's actually offered to them. And those can even be some of the best ones.
              Thanks, will signup to that website asap
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  • Profile picture of the author tpw
    There are a few quality writers running around the forum.

    Look at sigs to see if they offer ghost writing. Then look at their posts in the forum to get a feel for their writing capabilities.

    I prefer to hire writers who know how to tell stories, because even in non-fiction writing, stories capture the attention of the reader.

    Once you find someone who interests you, ask for samples of articles they have written before.

    The freelance sites are such a crap shoot. There are good writers there, but they are outnumbered by bad writers, by at least 10-to-1.

    I have been hiring writers for decade, and all I can tell you is that it is always a crap shoot...

    I have had the most success hiring writers out of the forum. Just Google:
    site:warriorforum.com "ghost writing"

    or any variation of ghost writing related word combos.

    That will help you find the people advertising ghost writing services.

    The writers I am currently employing from the forum might be unhappy with me for doing this, but when I find a good writer who reliably delivers good quality work, I like to keep those people in my private Rolodex.

    If I shared them, they might not have time to write for me when I want them to write for me.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by tpw View Post

      The writers I am currently employing from the forum might be unhappy with me for doing this, but when I find a good writer who reliably delivers good quality work, I like to keep those people in my private Rolodex.

      If I shared them, they might not have time to write for me when I want them to write for me.
      Ha ha, that's true indeed.

      Think i'm going to stop using sites like freelance sites for articles.
      Will probably have better luck on WF
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    Originally Posted by Wide View Post

    Normally I pay ~$15 for that size, but this time i'm going to pay twice that much (30). What kind of quality should I expect to receive for $30?
    The easy answer is twice the quality of what you get for $15. The smarter answer is twice the results of what you get for $15. What are those $15 articles doing for your business? A $30 article could increase it two-fold, or accomplish it in half the time. It all depends on what you want from it.

    Hopefully you've been tracking the results of previously purchased materials... That's the only way to form a real value of literary worth.
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  • Profile picture of the author Sylviane
    Really the question, what kind of quality can I expect for a $30 1500 word article? Is the same thing as asking what can I expect for a $5000 car. If you’d ask this question to a mechanic he would tell you, “it depends” on the car.

    Well to answer your question about your article I would say, it depends on the writer. There is no specific rules here!

    However, I as a writer I can tell you that I wouldn’t write a 1500 word article for $15. However, $30 is a bit more reasonable. Really, no one should be that desperate to write for such a low price. Thankfully for you guys, some people are.

    Sorry for telling the truth here
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by Sylviane View Post

      Sorry for telling the truth here
      Never be sorry to tell the truth - truth prevent me from doing the same mistake over and over again
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      • Profile picture of the author Sylviane
        Originally Posted by Wide View Post

        Never be sorry to tell the truth - truth prevent me from doing the same mistake over and over again
        I know you're right. Well, I wasn't really sorry either. I always try to be honest and I am know for that too
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  • Profile picture of the author bhuff85
    Everyone will approach an article and subject differently, as they all have their own flavor. Plus, there are other things that can play a factor, too (i.e. general article requiring minimal research on a broad topic or a specific article on a specific topic requiring deeper and more intricate research).

    However, as a majority of people here have already mentioned, it will truly depend on the writer.

    To find writers that would fit your style and budget, try asking around for any recommendations. As TPW mentioned, there are some excellent writers lurking around here as well - you'll just have to do your research.
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  • The quality depends on the person for example someone could do better for $5 and someone less for $100
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  • Profile picture of the author Eduard Stinga
    I just love threads about articles with people having different opinions about them (some of them completely wrong)
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    • Profile picture of the author JOSourcing
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      Originally Posted by Eduard Stinga View Post

      I just love threads about articles with people having different opinions about them (some of them completely wrong)
      I like how some people completely disregard a specific price for being too "low" and swear till the cows come home they'd never write for such a minuscule amount. Yet these same people turn right around in the same or some other post, and describe the "value" in syndicating their quality content for free.

      I guess to some, $0 > $30.
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        Originally Posted by JOSourcing View Post

        I like how some people completely disregard a specific price for being too "low" and swear till the cows come home they'd never write for such a minuscule amount. Yet these same people turn right around in the same or some other post, and describe the "value" in syndicating their quality content for free.

        I guess to some, $0 > $30.
        Do you understand what syndication and its potential is?
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  • Profile picture of the author Kierkegaard
    Originally Posted by Wide View Post

    I would like to receive better quality than I normally get ... is my price too low?
    It all depends on how much effort it is for the writer to write the article. I don't know much about solar energy and (importantly) I don't want to know that much about solar energy. For this reason $50 isn't much motivation to write 1500 on the subject. I wouldn't do it for less than $150.

    However if someone wanted an article on a subject I know very well, that I'm an expert in, $50 for a 1500 web article would probably be OK.
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  • Profile picture of the author cashcow
    You might try Unique content - Textbroker.com.

    You can order articles from different levels of writers - I've been very pleased with the quality of the 4 star writers (that will cost you .022 a word which would be $33 for a 1500 word article though).

    I've ordered several 700 word articles from that level and never once been disappointed, in fact, several of the articles were incredibly good.

    I like using that site because you just put in your request and a writer picks it up, writes the article, you review and if you like it you pay if not you can reject it. You don't have to go through any process of interviewing and hiring writers.

    They also have a higher level (.067 a word) that I bet is killer stuff and a couple of lower levels. I have not tried the lower levels so cannot vouch for the quality there.

    Lee

    P.S. I'm pretty picky about articles as I fancy myself to be a writer, I just don't have enough time to do all the writing for my business myself so sometimes I hire it out.
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    • Profile picture of the author Wide
      Originally Posted by cashcow View Post

      You might try Unique content - Textbroker.com.

      You can order articles from different levels of writers - I've been very pleased with the quality of the 4 star writers (that will cost you .022 a word which would be $33 for a 1500 word article though).

      I've ordered several 700 word articles from that level and never once been disappointed, in fact, several of the articles were incredibly good.

      I like using that site because you just put in your request and a writer picks it up, writes the article, you review and if you like it you pay if not you can reject it. You don't have to go through any process of interviewing and hiring writers.

      They also have a higher level (.067 a word) that I bet is killer stuff and a couple of lower levels. I have not tried the lower levels so cannot vouch for the quality there.

      Lee

      P.S. I'm pretty picky about articles as I fancy myself to be a writer, I just don't have enough time to do all the writing for my business myself so sometimes I hire it out.
      Thanks for the link to that website, that will useful
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  • Profile picture of the author tsx
    If I may suggest, don't start with the price in mind, start with the quality in mind. As others have said, there is no guarantee that twice the money will bring twice the quality. Sometime you will get a better quality for a lower price, not because of the price, but just because it so happens. It's like going grocery shopping, just because something is more expensive does not necessarily mean it's better.
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    Minimum wage content.
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  • Profile picture of the author Chris Worner
    What can I expect from a $30 article (1500 words)?
    A whole lot of fluff and filler at that price point.

    -Chris
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  • Profile picture of the author sreale
    spot on TSX, if you pay more, it does not mean the quality will be better.
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  • Profile picture of the author gojiberryman
    Originally Posted by Wide View Post

    Howdy,

    I'm trying to find someone to write me a 1500 word article. Normally I pay ~$15 for that size, but this time i'm going to pay twice that much (30). I know some people pay a lot more than that, but that's my limit for this project.

    What kind of quality should I expect to receive for $30? I mean, the examples they send me looks like what I normally receive. If that is the case, then I cant see a reason to pay 30 instead of 15 though -but I would like to receive better quality than I normally get ... is my price too low?

    How much do you guys pay for a 1-2000 word article and what quality is it in? Mind so share some examples (either here or PM)?
    Well Wide, its not about how long the article is, its about the quality of the article and how viral you can get your link to become. Here's the scoop there were test studies done to see what kinds of articles get the most views.

    The results were that shorter articles that were around 300-500 words converted better than the longer ones. Also another point I want to get at is that when you are an article marketer, the only way to really start to see the sales start rolling in is to create and submit many different articles containing the same website link. A great service I advise you to use is articlesubmitauto.com. Its a numbers game whoever has the most of them wins!

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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      To put some perspective on price, I have quite often paid $500+ for articles. My writers/researchers consistently work up to a standard expected by my publishers and readers, not down to a price. In the article syndication marketing model, quality has an exceptionally high ROI. And it really does not take many such articles at all to beat up all the competition.
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