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Grossing 24% ROI

by FredBeers
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Hopefully this will be helpful to some noobs or "not-so-noobs".

I consider myself in between those two....

Been thinking all wrong about this money making thing, so I wanted to share a bit of a mind shift with everybody to maybe be some encouragement.

I recently set up and am in the middle of SEOing a site I picked up a few weeks ago. Ive shoveled in like 200 bones with the site purchase and some link getting.

I was feeling kinda bummed when i looked at my revenues so far....

about 4 bucks in adsense. That sucks!!! or so I first thought, but then I did some math:

$4 / $200 = 0.02
I was curious about what kinda ROI I got. so here goes:

all that 4 bucks has been in this month.

0.02 X 12months = 0.24

what percent is that? 24% ROI per annum (per year)

You'd be hard pressed to beat that kind of return (unless you invest in stocks, forex, or real estate).

The take away is this. Stop thinking about the dollars. Think of this as a business investment.

The cool thing about those numbers is that, barring any stupid move on my part, it's going to increase. That's typically what happens with the SEO gig. Do a bunch of work, your position improves, revenues increase and then they drop off, untill you work again.

Take courage with the small gains. Do a little math and figure your returns out. You'd probably be surprised.

Let's keep doing this!!! Rock on.
#24% #grossing #roi
  • Profile picture of the author ryanmilligan
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    Not got anything helpful to say about the post but I did want to say 'good luck' to you with your site.
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    • Profile picture of the author FredBeers
      don't need luck. its all about leverage my friend.

      had my hand in direct response most likely before
      you were off your moms boob.

      it's all up from here. :-)
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  • Profile picture of the author Kal Sallam
    Google+ Adsense ? Not a good start, unless you plan on flipping the site further down the line, even though still not a good idea, as far as income for yourself that's a No No.

    My advice take it or leave it won't really matter
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    • Profile picture of the author FredBeers
      Thankyou for the suggestion.

      its in a segue niche.

      Im not in it for the adsense, or the amazon, which was $97 last year.

      Thats lousy income. I agree. Multiply it by many other sites all leading to what I'm really after....

      Now thats the leverage I'm after. I have some plans up my sleave.

      :-) thankyou tho.
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      • Profile picture of the author FredBeers
        it still beats any bank savings, CD, 401 K, ETF, or mutual fund (most of em anyway), which was my point.

        The return is still Dynamite. comparatively.

        Is there more to be had? Hecks Yeah!!
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  • Profile picture of the author Andy B
    So you're happy to wait 4 years to get back your initial $200?

    You'll have spent more on seo and content in that 4 years to keep it earning what it is currently too, so let's say 5 years to get back your initial investment, then $4 a month profit after 5 years?

    Which is BEST case scenario providing your sites continues to earn at its current rate for the next 5 years, which we all know is unlikely because of Googles constant changes,

    If you're happy with that sort of deal - grats I guess, I know I would bail.

    Andy
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    • Profile picture of the author FredBeers
      Originally Posted by Andy B View Post

      So you're happy to wait 4 years to get back your initial $200?

      You'll have spent more on seo and content in that 4 years to keep it earning what it is currently too, so let's say 5 years to get back your initial investment, then $4 a month profit after 5 years?

      Which is BEST case scenario providing your sites continues to earn at its current rate for the next 5 years, which we all know is unlikely because of Googles constant changes,

      If you're happy with that sort of deal - grats I guess, I know I would bail.

      Andy
      Since we are speculating. let's see:

      first of all you missed the second of the three
      income streams. last year $97 on amazon.

      second you missed that I'm really not (ultimately) after
      the adsense and amazon incomes, which "IF" they held
      at the same amounts (which are unlikely) and "IF" I didn't
      spend anymore on traffic building (also unlikely) would yield
      my initial investment in less than 2 years. But that's
      ludicrous anyway.

      It segues into the real estate niche. I'm an ex realtor.

      I will build a list from these sites. My profit is not on the
      front end.

      "IF" all goes the way I want (which is always a gamble) I
      will net $1000 to $5000 per transaction on the backend.

      My point to others is to stop looking immediately at the
      dollar and look at returns.

      I know where I can place my money at 18% percent without
      negative risk at all, but this 24% return beats that return stupid
      because I am in total control of increasing it whenever I want.

      There's huge power in what we do.

      If my plans don't work oh well. It's not my only website nor
      my only niche. I can flip it, or I can chuck it. I've wasted much
      more than $200 dollars in the past 27 years of studying and
      dabbling in direct response.

      There's a lot of you all that are above this, I know that.

      But hopefully there are some that can glean some
      encouragement to look at things a bit differently.
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  • Profile picture of the author warriortrades
    Originally Posted by FredBeers View Post

    Hopefully this will be helpful to some noobs or "not-so-noobs".

    I consider myself in between those two....

    Been thinking all wrong about this money making thing, so I wanted to share a bit of a mind shift with everybody to maybe be some encouragement.

    I recently set up and am in the middle of SEOing a site I picked up a few weeks ago. Ive shoveled in like 200 bones with the site purchase and some link getting.

    I was feeling kinda bummed when i looked at my revenues so far....

    about 4 bucks in adsense. That sucks!!! or so I first thought, but then I did some math:

    $4 / $200 = 0.02
    I was curious about what kinda ROI I got. so here goes:

    all that 4 bucks has been in this month.

    0.02 X 12months = 0.24

    what percent is that? 24% ROI per annum (per year)

    You'd be hard pressed to beat that kind of return (unless you invest in stocks, forex, or real estate).

    The take away is this. Stop thinking about the dollars. Think of this as a business investment.

    The cool thing about those numbers is that, barring any stupid move on my part, it's going to increase. That's typically what happens with the SEO gig. Do a bunch of work, your position improves, revenues increase and then they drop off, untill you work again.

    Take courage with the small gains. Do a little math and figure your returns out. You'd probably be surprised.

    Let's keep doing this!!! Rock on.
    Good thoughts. It's true that how you think about something can change your success and keep you motivated.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mike Hlatky
    Wouldn't 24% ROI mean that you had $248 after a year, not just $48?
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    • Profile picture of the author FredBeers
      Originally Posted by Mike Hlatky View Post

      Wouldn't 24% ROI mean that you had $248 after a year, not just $48?
      nope. cause 24% of 200 is 48.

      roi per annum is calculated per year.

      made 2 percent return on the month. 24 percent

      on the year.

      still. not crazy income but compared to socking
      money away at interest. its amazing.

      im an investor buying roi on my money. just a
      different paradigm.
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