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Should I promote a product that does not send affiliate links on followup?

by Jere Kuisma
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Hey!

I was thinking to dive into a niche that has one clear dominating product and every other product I've found aren't anywhere near to it.

Unfortunately it doesn't provide options which wouldn't end up giving them the leads email address. I signed up on their followup and they do not send affiliate link on them, but the followup is definitely VERY high quality and has many parts which I believe would convert very well.

I know one option would be to ask them for an option where there wouldn't be their own signups or they would send my affiliate link on followup, but I doubt they'd do this as I am a beginner affiliate who has no guarantee of any traffic.

So my main question is, should I go for it and trust the clickbank cookie?

The followup is pretty instant and provides the most high quality stuff within 1-2 days, and after that it's only emails. I know that clickbank cookie is something that I shouldn't depend on, but could it do it's job on this 2 day period? If the lead doesn't buy in the 2 days it's a high chance that he would anyways read some reviews about the product and end up buying from different affiliate link.

So I don't need the cookie to last the 60 days or even 10, just the 1st and 2nd day. I'd be making the leads subscribe to my list before even sending them to the offer, so I can myself followup with them too.

I'd like to state again that the product I'm talking about is clearly the dominating product and I haven't found anything close to it (allthough some might be pretty good, but this one is excellent). What would be your recommendation on a situation like this?
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  • Profile picture of the author Cataclysm1987
    I'd go for it but make sure you are building a list first. You don't want to give up your chance to connect with a subscriber by forfeiting all your equity to your vendor via direct linking.
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  • Profile picture of the author Resale Rights Ninja
    Before you do anything always build your list first.
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  • Profile picture of the author ryanman
    Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

    Hey!





    So my main question is, should I go for it and trust the clickbank cookie?

    There are affiliates who do promote sales pages with opt in forms on them. So, yes you will have to trust the cookie.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

    my main question is, should I go for it and trust the clickbank cookie?
    Very few (if any) serious ClickBank affiliates will promote a product which has a vendor's opt-in on the sales page.

    Some vendors have two different versions of their sales page available, with and without their opt-in, as long experience has taught them they won't attract most of the pro-affiliates without offering that.

    This is thread you need to read, on the subject. (It's quite long and detailed, because this is a more complicated subject than many realise - but well worth a long, slow, careful read-through!): http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...oduct-opt.html

    Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

    If the lead doesn't buy in the 2 days it's a high chance that he would anyways read some reviews about the product and end up buying from different affiliate link.
    This isn't my experience at all, though it's always possible in theory.

    What matters more than anything else is that you build your own list. It's difficult indeed to make much more than the occasional/random sale of a ClickBank product without doing that. This is simply fundamental to affiliate marketing of CB products. Without it, you're chasing perhaps 10% of the possible income and ignoring the other 90%: http://www.warriorforum.com/main-int...ml#post5210243
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  • Profile picture of the author Shaun OReilly
    Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

    What would be your recommendation on a situation like this?
    Rather than helping the vendor to build their list, my
    recommendation would be to focus on building YOUR
    own list.

    That way, you get them into YOUR follow-up sales
    sequence that YOU control.

    So, set-up your own website and build your own list
    and send them your follow-up sequence with your
    affiliate links that you control.

    Dedicated to mutual success,

    Shaun
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  • Profile picture of the author Jere Kuisma
    I am building my own list. The leads will always have opted in to my list before I would send them to the affiliate offer. From the replies I guess this is exactly what I should be doing

    The product I was talking about delivers a very high quality webinar as a followup for free and I think this would make many people purchase the product. At the end of the webinar it's not my affiliate link though, so I am concerned if the cookie will do it's job.
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    • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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      Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

      I am building my own list.
      Good approach ...

      Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

      The product I was talking about delivers a very high quality webinar as a followup for free
      Understood.

      But if it also gives the product's vendor your customer's email address before they've bought the product (and they normally do), then that's a "leak", the same as a "vendor's opt-in on the sales page", as discussed in this thread.

      Originally Posted by Quahas View Post

      At the end of the webinar it's not my affiliate link though, so I am concerned if the cookie will do it's job.
      Exactly.

      It will do its job if it isn't overwritten by a subsequent cookie (i.e. a later affiliate-link). But when the vendor has your customer's email address, that can happen very easily (and did happen at some point, in 85% of the randomly selected cases I tested). It's basically leaky: you can't tell when it does, and you're not in control of the situation.

      (Assuming that the person doesn't "clear cookies", or run anti-spyware software which clears cookies, or whatever, of course, but that's a kind of "constant factor" and has nothing to do with the specific issue you're asking about).
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  • Profile picture of the author Dann Vicker
    Noo...find better offers that promote on their follow ups with plain links, so your affiliate cookie is preserved. You sent the prospect so you deserve a part of the sale.
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    • Profile picture of the author myob
      If you really feel strongly that this niche has only "one clear dominating product and every other product I've found aren't anywhere near to it", then consider aggressively ramping up your marketing efforts to your list. It's not uncommon for top Clickbank affiliates to promote products to their lists everyday, especially in the more competitive niches.

      Offer a high perceived value bonus to incentivize the purchase, which will be delivered only after a successful, verified transaction. Best practices suggest a daily reminder of your offer at the end of every email message. Your daily messages should prominently include relevant tips, reports, resources, or free gifts, which will make your promotions appear less blatant. Subtlety can be a very powerful marketing technique.
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