How to buy and sell gold and make money doing it!

by zorro1
14 replies
Hey, take a look around the internet commodity sites, or look into Alibaba or TradeBoss and you will find tons of offers for gold bullion in huge amounts like one thousand ton plus. What the heck is going on here?

Well, not much really. Sad truth is it is all fake, and the efforts of these misguided individuals are fruitless, time consuming, and buy or sell nothing.

That was me too. I tried to buy and sell gold because the commissions were really, I mean really big. You know, the big big dollar signs that pop out of your eyes when you do the math.

What is one percent of one billion dollars anyway? Let you do the math. But that is the reason that there are so many so called buyers and sellers out there in cyber space.

Tons of folks trying to make that one huge deal that will set them up for life. And so the story goes; Someone meets someone who knows someone who is next to, or very near the direct mandate, who need one thousand tons of gold, with hallmarks that are less than five years old. Not only that, but they have to follow strict procedures. Something like Swiss procedures and they cannot be broken or be changed. So, you put up an add and next thing you know, people start answering your add with all kinds of deals for one thousand tons to any amount of gold. Unlimited gold sales of nothing less than one thousand tons are literally everywhere on the net. But, try and sell one kilogram.

Hell, try selling single grams let alone a thousand tons of pure gold and you will soon find out that it is a lot more difficult than you ever thought. That is until I met a real gold refiner who happens to manage the largest gold refinery in the world. And then it all changed. He taught me the ways of the gold industry and opened up the real gold world to me. The first thing he said was gold is cash and how much will you sell your cash for?

Dam! He was right gold is cash and I would not sell my own dollars for less than a dollar. (I don't have that kind of cash to throw around.) Neither would you or anyone else. So, gold is cash and I know cash is cash, and I know that you can buy cash. I have! Practically every time I travel to a different country I need to purchase some of the local currency and I never, ever, paid less than the going rate. Every single time I paid over the going rate! Yup, every time. A couple of times I found a variety of prices for the same currency in the exact same air port! In other words, I have found money for sale at different rates over the value of the currency I was buying.

Guess what? Same thing with gold. Duh, gold sells at a fixed rate set twice a day in London. Just the same way our dollar varies in value depending on how the situation is and how it changes. There is no discount! Repeat, "There is no discount!" What the hell? No discount! Dam!

Then how can I buy or sell gold without a discount? My dreams of making untold sums of pure cash selling gold seemed to fade within moments of meeting a real gold authority. But, his very next statement was; "The gold industry has made me a very rich man and I could have retired many years ago but I love this industry and it fascinates me so much that I love to come to work each day and buy and sell gold."

Well, if he could make a fortune so could I but why would this virtual stranger tell me the secrets of gold? I really don't know why, but he had no issues with simply telling me everything I needed to know. Step by step, he slowly revealed the amazing world of pure gold and told me how to buy and sell gold for an insiders point of view. He showed me the pitfalls, and how to avoid imminent disasters. He lighted the way through the maze of this mysterious industry. His wise words revealed the road to riches. Wealth beyond anything I had imagined.

I don't know how many people it takes to make a commodity stop making money, and I am not going to find out. I have to tell you that I have taken notes and point by point, step by step. I have developed my ebook. This book is all of the insiders secrets to buying and selling gold from the largest, most successful guru in the gold market today. The sad state that exists out there in cyberspace.

All these people wasting their time and energy. Hoping to make that really big sale. Spending hours upon hours emailing, faxing, and phoning one dead lead after another and never getting anything back from their efforts. Those are the folks that need my help! I am thinking about releasing my instructions to a limited amount of people. But, I am not sure of how to do it, or like I mentioned before; "I don't know how many people it takes to make a commodity stop making money, and I am not going to find out." This is my worry.

Gold is perhaps one of the most limited markets in the world. You cannot fake gold. You cannot make gold. It simply cannot be reproduced! It must be mined, smelted and refined and that is a lot of effort, and energy. Thus, it is forever limited! And why would I want to kill the golden goose? I don't and I won't! That, my friend, would be really stupid on my part.

So, if I sold my information for a price that would limit the number of people simply because the price limits the number of possible takers. Say, something like the profit from one sale, somewhere in that range for a copy. That would certainly eliminate most folks. But that wouldn't help anyone but the rich get richer. Hey I am not slamming the rich, but it would not help the average Joe busting his ass trying to make that one sale!

Then, I got this cool idea. What if I used some of that acronym crapola I used to use. You know, the old NCND, MFPA, ICPO crud. Geez, I made enough of that crap and wasted a whole lot of time doing it. Did you know that these really are genuine legal documents that are just wasted by all these guys out the on the net. What if I got people, (A limited number of people.) To sign a legally binding NCND? What would that do?

Well, that my friend, might just be the ticket.

With a legally binding NCND that states limits and guarantees that these secrets will not be reveled to anyone other that the signed parties under the threat of law. Giving me the legal power to slap the largest law suit against the defaulting party and kick them straight back to their former average life. Now, that may just work but I would need to do a test.

So, I have had my legal team come up with the best dam NCND ever created. They plugged every loophole. They slammed every possible why anyone can weasel out of this agreement no matter where on earth it is signed.

I am still not too sure of what to expect, but after reading around in this forum off and on over the past few years. I figure that this would be the place to give this idea a try. I can see that this forum places a lot of emphases on marketing ways to make money on the internet

So, what I think is that there might be some interest in this because although gold is not internet related. I think that there are many similarities between gold and internet marketing.

You can make a fortune doing either one if you take the right steps, make the right moves, and avoid the pit falls.

Even though internet marketing is much more versatile. The gold industry attracts a whole lot of folks simply because it is gold. Like the old gold fever of yesteryear, gold pricks the imagination and attracts so many ordinary everyday folks.

The thing is that I do have the simple steps to making that big score with gold and I am really not to sure how to market this because it is limited.

Like my gold friends say; "Whatever you do don't kill this market." But, I am so grateful, that I want to give something back. Like I am sure that this forum was created to give back to all those new and hopeful marketers. Like me I suppose.

What I need right now is some feedback about this NCND idea, or other ideas about marketing this gold information without killing the market, while putting this information into the hands of average Joes so that they can take advantage like I did.

I have been everywhere, from India to the middle of the Empty Quarter in Saudi to the Arctic and most anywhere all over the globe. I stay in five star hotels pretty much all the time now. Constantly on the move searching for new ideas, things to build, and meeting people from all walks of life.

Gold has been good for me, and now I want to give back in a way that will be helpful. Miners mine the gold, refiners refine the gold an now industry and people buy and sell the gold mostly face to face, but the net has made trading very easy indeed.

You guys are the real marketers that could help me put this information into the right hands. The right way. (Sorry about the rambling.)
#buy #gold #make #money #sell
  • Profile picture of the author locke
    Just a tip, at least seperate your paragraphs next time and more people might take the time to read this! I have never trusted sites like Alibaba and most people do this type of arbitrage through reputable banks...

    I find this topic extremely interesting, internet marketers are more intelligent than the average joe's out there and everyone should realize the value in holding gold during a global economic crisis where the money printing presses are running 24/7 right?
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  • Profile picture of the author zorro1
    Thanks Locke, I broke it up some. The idea is how to market this without screwing up the market. I really want to do this in a correct way to help out some folks.
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  • Profile picture of the author mormel
    Hi,

    You're between a Scylla and Charybdis, like in the old Greek mythology: two bad things that can happen, a rock and a hard thing.

    Either you make your ebook so exclusive that only a the very happy few can get hold of it and use it. And they are the ones who least need it.

    Or you publish your idea widely and your ebook goes the way of almost every ebook: the info in it is all over the net within a few months, in very different forms.

    Because that's the way it goes in the information society. In a way you might be responsible (indirectly) for undermining the international gold market then...

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  • Profile picture of the author zorro1
    Thanks Mormel but what about the NCND. Do you think that might work to protect or is there another way?
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  • Profile picture of the author zorro1
    Hi Askloz
    I agree, I have been in and out of gold all day long and have done well today and I expect to do even better tomorrow. Gold moves up and down all day long and new people are in and out, but gold moves on. I really don't care which way. What I am looking to do is pass this information along in some way that will benefit others as it has benefited me. I don't think the world's economies will crash much more. Perhaps the worst off will be those regular Joes out there that lost their jobs because their employer suddenly decides that the world will tank. This economy will recover and thrive most likely sooner than later, and gold will move steadily down just as it should. Meanwhile gold will fluctuate generally upward for a little while. The real situation is just that. Gold is a moving thing with a life of it's own. Something like Forex I will guess. I don't know much about it. But I can assure you that hanging onto gold is not necessarily a wise move. From my point of view. Like Forex there are simple rules to gold trading and it can be mechanically manipulated into one's own favour once you know how. I want to teach just that without completely filling up the market. That is all. Any ideas?
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    • Profile picture of the author seobro
      Actually, where I live there are gold panning classes, and I live not that far from Gold Creek. Still, there are very few people panning for gold even though the price is now over $900/oz. Makes me wonder why so many are missing this truly GOLDEN opportunity.
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  • Profile picture of the author zorro1
    West Africa, interesting place where some folks work themselves nearly to death and get 20% or less of an ounce to survive. Perhaps my system could help some of those guys.
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  • Profile picture of the author zorro1
    Any more feedback?
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  • Profile picture of the author zorro1
    Still hoping for more feedback.
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  • Profile picture of the author terrapurus
    Zorro ... non disclosure docs have advantages and disadvantages. If you can find an obvious breach, then it is clear cut. But what if someone starts doing what you do? Did they learn from someone else (after all, you were also taught). There would be plenty of grey areas. Even if someone buys what you have and then tells someone else (eg family member, close friend), how do you prove that?

    You could consider a private equity fund. People invest in your fund and you do the investing. Of course that then carries a stigma of the HYIP stuff that has come before.

    At the end of the day, agreements are like locks. They only stop nice people.
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  • Profile picture of the author lazarus4444
    If you want to give back then give the ebook to your family and close friends. I have a very hard time believing you want to give back here by selling an ebook. btw, nice sales letter, mystery, glamour, hope, solves a problem, very good.
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    • Profile picture of the author cameljockey
      Well Zorro, it looks like a golden opportunity for some for sure. Maybe the
      NCND is just the ticket. Curious though. Keep us posted.
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  • Profile picture of the author zorro1
    Thanks for the response Bob,
    No, I don't trade on any exchange, but I trade physical all day long. It is about all the ways to trade. Look at the gold market and you will see that is is up & down like a yo-yo. The issue is the cost of trading. The secret is within this area. I buy gold and then sell it immediately. I have this whole process down to less than twenty minutes thanks to the Internet. So, I know that hanging onto gold is not the route like so many people think, The gold world basically flips 24/7. I have made all my family and relives very well off. My interest is to help other as well as to help me understand Internet marketing. I have a
    real keen sense that internet marketing can be an even better way to earn good money. These IM guys always spout this stuff about what they make. So, they all say do what you know in a market that is good. For me gold is good, very good, perhaps too good. The other markets I know are Middle East business. I know a whole lot of big Arab Sheiks and the like, and they are really wanting to do business all the time for any new ideas. I guess I could market that somehow. I love Iraq, and those guys. They have very huge needs at the moment and I have many good contacts there. I am most likely one of the only tourists they get at the moment. Africa is up and coming, and they are always bugging me to set up something with them. Congo outback is cool and they need business but they are really only resource based. So buying gold is all I do there. There are plenty of diamonds, but the diamond guys have all panicked because the bottom fell out. My problem with that is I don't know anything about diamonds. Every diamond I like always proves to be near worthless. I have a bag full of those that I have picked up on my treks. I thought about an ebook on the subject, but I think that most people would loose their ass on that subject. I always come back to gold. Hell even I can do the gold and make everyday as much as I want and more on days like today. It should drop today somewhat.
    I am in China a lot and those little guys can, and are making anything under the sun. I could write an ebook about how to get those guys to make something that you make way cheaper because I do that already for friends. Just because I like to hang out there and it keeps me busy and I meet some nice people to boot. What about that idea? I can see the gold thing is not interesting these Internet people. All I can really do is really tangible things and I can't seem to find a digital niche. Today I am in Dubai, but I think I'll go to Jordan next week and hang out at the Dead Sea for a while. I have some Iraq friends there who were chased out of their own country. I will take some stuff into Iraq for them and bring some back for them. Those guys have money,need, and, desire for simple things. Like a home, a nice bed etc.. Another niche! Anyway, you can see that what I want to do is make an ebook that will sell. That is my goal. The gold thing is really all I know that would sell because it works very well, but that may kick the crap right out of the market and this would really piss a lot of hard working folks off as much as help others. If you have any ideas, or help. I would welcome it. Zorro
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