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Why The Need For So Many Domains?

by jan roos
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I have a question about domain names that I get quite a bit in the offline cash cow world.

For instance I have a client who has a senior services website here in our town. She keeps telling me that she has all these other domain names that's abbreviations and different keywords in her niche.

Then, I talked to a web designer today and he told me as well how his site is going to do soo good in the search engines because he has all these domain names.

Other people has also been telling me that and I'm like "why do you need so many domain names?"

Do they want to use all of the domains to link back to their site or do they know something I don't?

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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    yup, idea is to create your own network.
    it's what I do, i have over 700 domain names.
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    • Profile picture of the author esr
      Originally Posted by askloz View Post

      yup, idea is to create your own network.
      it's what I do, i have over 700 domain names.
      Two questions:

      1. How do you keep track of all of them?

      2. You have 700 active domains, does that mean that you have 700 full websites/blogs? Or are these just link farms or redirects?
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      • Profile picture of the author askloz
        No, they are not link farms, each site is a FULLY interactive website, with forums, voting / rating articles, rating of comments, blogs, videos, images, ezine groups built in.

        How I keep track? Tracking Software, each send me an email if a prob arises, etc.

        Originally Posted by esr View Post

        Two questions:

        1. How do you keep track of all of them?

        2. You have 700 active domains, does that mean that you have 700 full websites/blogs? Or are these just link farms or redirects?
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        • Profile picture of the author Steadyon
          Originally Posted by askloz View Post

          No, they are not link farms, each site is a FULLY interactive website, with forums, voting / rating articles, rating of comments, blogs, videos, images, ezine groups built in.

          How I keep track? Tracking Software, each send me an email if a prob arises, etc.

          Hi Loz,

          A fellow UK'er here.

          We have lots of domains, not nearly as many as you, but the biggest problem we have is getting round to creating the sites and building worthwhile content.

          Could you elaborate on any ideas you have found to help speed things up, both from a content point of view and also the actual administering of so many sites?

          May latest line of thinking is to develop more Drupal/Joomla sites and get others to create content. Easier said than done but it seems to make sense so far.

          It just takes so much damn time though...

          I've been at this now for a number of years and time is definitely the biggest barrier we face.

          Cheers,
          Sam
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  • Profile picture of the author Buildingfutures
    Geez, 700? A little much? Haha!

    But yeah, its all about traffic, search engine domination, and getting that subscriber base.

    More domains to have, better you can do.
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      That's the only ones that are active

      I have 2,800 others that I still need to get up and running

      Originally Posted by Buildingfutures View Post

      Geez, 700? A little much? Haha!

      But yeah, its all about traffic, search engine domination, and getting that subscriber base.

      More domains to have, better you can do.
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      • Profile picture of the author jan roos
        Ok so if I have 5 domain names for my site how does that help me with SEO?

        Do I have to point all 5 domain names to my site at once? Can this be done? And if so I can understand how it can help SEO wise. Especially if the domains are keyword rich.

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      • Profile picture of the author Matt Helm
        Originally Posted by askloz View Post

        That's the only ones that are active

        I have 2,800 others that I still need to get up and running
        This is a tricky one loz, but to address the initial question. No you don't need a lot of domains to be successful. If you have found your niche you could just as easily use sub-domains without seeking a VC to fund your multiple domain network. Use a good keyword strategy within your niche and use the sub-domain as it was intended and you should see great results.

        As for building your own network loz, that's a slipery slope. First, most people go with the most cost effective registrar and even at that price 3500 domains is a ton of dough, unless you own your own go daddy.

        One of my clients recently went with an "SEO" company who employed the multiple domain network philosophy and although technically not a link farm did get banned and destroyed my clients SERP.

        I'm not saying that high domain networking is wrong, but it's very tricky and as you can expect, extreamly time consuming.

        Loz, if what you say is true, you have obviously been doing this a while and know what you are doing, but I would suggest for most people, start small, think big, and work smart.
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        • Profile picture of the author askloz
          Originally Posted by Matt Helm View Post

          This is a tricky one loz, but to address the initial question. No you don't need a lot of domains to be successful. If you have found your niche you could just as easily use sub-domains without seeking a VC to fund your multiple domain network. Use a good keyword strategy within your niche and use the sub-domain as it was intended and you should see great results.
          Subdomains no longer hold the weight they used to any more. before they were treated as separate websites, not now. They're not totally worthless, just not as good.

          Originally Posted by Matt Helm View Post

          As for building your own network loz, that's a slipery slope. First, most people go with the most cost effective registrar and even at that price 3500 domains is a ton of dough, unless you own your own go daddy.
          Not at all mate. Not unless you have the answers.

          Start out small, like I did, I had my own reseller account, which contains about 250 sites on it. As the money started coming in, I got another reseller account, and another and another, and another and so on.

          Trick is, to have them on different data centers and unique IP's, thank fully my web host provider and good friend is connected in this regard, so now I have moved my other sites and allocated the ip's to new data centers across the world.

          Originally Posted by Matt Helm View Post

          One of my clients recently went with an "SEO" company who employed the multiple domain network philosophy and although technically not a link farm did get banned and destroyed my clients SERP.
          Cos he did it wrong. Idea is not to link them all up, or have some kind of foot print that links them back to original source.


          Originally Posted by Matt Helm View Post

          I'm not saying that high domain networking is wrong, but it's very tricky and as you can expect, extreamly time consuming.
          Mines automated

          Originally Posted by Matt Helm View Post

          Loz, if what you say is true, you have obviously been doing this a while and know what you are doing, but I would suggest for most people, start small, think big, and work smart.

          Yup, 2-3yrs now.
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  • Profile picture of the author jaijav29
    Originally Posted by jan roos View Post

    I have a question about domain names that I get quite a bit in the offline cash cow world.

    For instance I have a client who has a senior services website here in our town. She keeps telling me that she has all these other domain names that's abbreviations and different keywords in her niche.

    Then, I talked to a web designer today and he told me as well how his site is going to do soo good in the search engines because he has all these domain names.

    Other people has also been telling me that and I'm like "why do you need so many domain names?"

    Do they want to use all of the domains to link back to their site or do they know something I don't?

    Cheers
    Hi

    The more domain names the more money!
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  • Profile picture of the author askloz
    well, tell me this, why would you spend 1,000's straight up without even testing something first, kinda stupid if you ask me, walking into territory not ventured into yet.

    Originally Posted by billyboy View Post

    Asklotz: I just wonder why someone worth $10M and making $170,000 from FX alone would need to start small? So you trade FX as a side bizz ($10m) and do all this other stuff for fun?

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  • Profile picture of the author BlueJam
    Keyword rich domain names are just fantastic in Google at the moment, I'm ranking with domain names in semi competitive areas with hardly any links at all. Just a spot on domain name. Get a few of those for the niche you're targeting and you should be away...
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  • Profile picture of the author Gog
    There is no point I having all those domain names unless you are going to use them and add content to benefit the site you are trying to push.
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      Just because I've got money coming out of my ear holes bro, I still hold the value of money very close to my heart... a $1 is still a $1, a £1 is still a £1.

      Let me put it another way.

      If I did 100 tests, and 99 of them failed, at $5k a pop, that's $495k lost... all adds up at the end of the day, know what I mean like mate?

      By the way, I make more than $170k a month, it's more near $7 million a week, but who's counting.

      Originally Posted by billyboy View Post

      Surely losing $5,000 is peanuts to you? And it would speed things up 100X...'s

      Gee thet must bve some FX robot you have. I mean not only do you make $170,000+ per month ($10M) but you get to post here all day and run all those other businesses. Wow........ amazing :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author askloz
      believe what you want mate, I've got nothing to prove you (I say that in a kind tone)...

      My Students know what I make, and even proved to them I made over $6 million the week before last. I've even showed on my forum what my Forex Robot makes on a daily / weekly basis.

      Originally Posted by billyboy View Post

      oh for Pete's sake.....and you spend all day here as well? Well, excuse me but I do not believe a word you are saying. $7 million a week ($28 millon a month or $336 million per annum taking into account 4 weeks holiday)

      (ROFL) surely you are joking? and you give all these secrets away for a mere $3,200 ROFL I HOPE you are kidding here?
      I started making that kind of money as of 6 months ago mate. Before it was just a measly few hundred K here or there a month... once the robot kicks in, sky is the limit, it's at a point now it can't be stopped. I know, it's crazy, i'm still trying to absorb it...

      Yup, if you want to learn how to trade, then ya, $3247 is a fair price I would reckons.

      Besides, that money goes to Charity any way.
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  • Profile picture of the author Samuel Lee
    Great reply from askloz! Typically I think you would need to buy keyword-rich related domains to use for redirection to your affiliate or website. I think with video marketing, easy to remember domain names are extemely important because it will usually just be entered by someone directly. If you're offering shortcuts to your site its probably better offer tiny URL's instead of long and detailed URL's. Hope this helps!
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