Any updates on MemberZilla launch?

[Daniel McGonagle]

Jake Riley has yet to return an email of mine so
I'm trying to find out when his Memberzilla membership
script will be released...

Anyone know?

Thanks in advance...

Jake, my Skype ID is aikidoroll, find me

[Solidsnake]

No information yet.. I'm also waiting....

[Mark McWilliams]

While I don't think this is an appropriate thread for the Warrior Forum, I do know from being on the MZ forum that Craig and Jake are doing their darn best to get it out as quick as possible!

They want to release something stable and secure, meaning that 2 days after launch there isn't already patches available!

Your best bet is to sign yourself up their list, along with the forum!

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As soon as there is any information, you'll be notified, or see it for yourself posted on the forum. (Sorry if I can't be much more helpful!)

Thanks
Mark

[Daniel McGonagle]

Hi Mark, that's good enough for me, knowing it's not released yet.

You were helpful and gave me another resource to go to, therefore
this was definitely an appropriate place to make this post.

Thanks for the reply,

Dan

P.S. I'd offered to make some videos for Jake for MZ and chatted
with him on IM a while back so it's not like I'm trashing him...

[Mark McWilliams]

Not a problem Daniel!

Thanks
Mark

[TheMagicShow]

His website and forum can provide more information than the warrior forum

[Daniel McGonagle]

Thanks Mark and Mel.

This is the only forum I frequent, perhaps I should spread my wings more

Testing something here... Why The Review Site Business Model Rocks | The Online Marketing Guide For Home Based Business Owners

[Mountainbird]

Originally Posted by Magic Mel

His website and forum can provide more information than the warrior forum

As I understand the threads in his forum MemberZilla will unfortunately not be launched in 2008.

What is the next best alternative to MemberZilla? I'm really in need for a script like this.

Karl

[Kate Anderson]

Memberzilla will launch in 2008, Karl, so I am not sure where you got that information from. It certainly doesn't say that on the forum and personally, I can assure you it will be available this year.

Also, if you want to reach Craig, he's on Skype everyday, Jake is as well as much as he can be. Both are working steady, and will be available on a regular basis when the site has launched. Until then, they are keeping their heads down and focusing on getting everything ready while managing their time wisely, but I'm confident you can reach them through Skype if you give it a shot.

Craig: Craig-Lawrence
Jake: Jake-Riley

[Johnny Slater]

Just from a curiosity point of view... people have been waiting over 6 months since it was announced that a launch was "days" away... why are people waiting and holding off their own business for something that was promised months and months ago, expecially when there are already many solutions available now that fill the same needs?

I'm not asking this as a product owner, but as someone wanting to know what motivates people to wait this long on promises and deadlines that keep being pushed back time and time again. We have seen many peoples reputations ruined for less here so it is, in my mind, a valid question as to why there has not been a bigger backlash on the broken promises?

[Kate Anderson]

Johnny,

I understand your reasons for posting as you have, but to be clear, I don't think anyone is waiting around for it without a reason that they feel is justified. You might also want to keep in mind that some people actually prefer to release a script that is as solid as possible, and knowing the team rather well, I can tell you that regardless of past launch estimations, they are doing their best for everyone involved.

They have also directly told people not to wait, if you read their forum you'd see that. They don't want anyone putting their business on hold, whatsoever.. but like I said, if people are waiting, there's obviously a personal reason for doing so.

As for a backlash on the failed launch dates, this site hasn't been promoted apart from when Jake was active on this forum and had it in his signature. People found it, people liked what they saw and began to hang around the forums and join the list.. They certainly weren't expecting (nor prepared) to have such an active place so quickly, and have been doing as best as they can. If people can't understand that, they can buy a script somewhere else (no one is holding them back).

Also, they genuinely attempted to reach deadlines and because of reasons that have been explained to forum members and supporters, they were unable to do so AND still include everything that they (and those surveyed) feel are important aspects of the MZ software. But it's coming, and when it does, I have no doubt any of those who are waiting (for whatever reason) will be more than satisfied.

[Lucy Weber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Slater

Just from a curiosity point of view... people have been waiting over 6 months since it was announced that a launch was "days" away... why are people waiting and holding off their own business for something that was promised months and months ago, expecially when there are already many solutions available now that fill the same needs?

I'm not asking this as a product owner, but as someone wanting to know what motivates people to wait this long on promises and deadlines that keep being pushed back time and time again. We have seen many peoples reputations ruined for less here so it is, in my mind, a valid question as to why there has not been a bigger backlash on the broken promises?

Wow, that sounded like some sour grapes, Johnny. Rather unprofessional, IMO, especially coming from a competitor of MZ.

But honestly, I think most people would much rather wait a bit longer for a bug-free version than to end up with a buggy piece of junk with features missing. At least, I know I would. It's not like anyone has paid a bunch of money up front for it.

[Johnny Slater]

Kate,

Thanks for the reply. Like I said, I am just wondering what motivates someone to wait so long on a product. If you can learn how to duplicate that then you have a million dollar idea on your hands.

As for wanting the product to be bug free, I do understand that. As a developer myself I know full well how that goes. I waited about 3 months to launch my product just to make sure it was as stable as I could make it. Granted, it has grown very fast and has had some growing pains which has had me scrambling to patch up a few bugs over the last week and is now solid again. It is very easy to miss something simple and have it cause a major problem so I can understand wanting it to work right the first time.

My curiosity is more towards what makes people want to wait for something for such a long time. There is a massive lesson to be learned here for anyone willing to take a closer look.

[Johnny Slater]

Originally Posted by Lucy Weber

Wow, that sounded like some sour grapes, Johnny. Rather unprofessional, IMO, especially coming from a competitor of MZ.

But honestly, I think most people would much rather wait a bit longer for a bug-free version than to end up with a buggy piece of junk with features missing. At least, I know I would. It's not like anyone has paid a bunch of money up front for it.

No sour grapes intended Lucy. I'll be the first to admit that I can make a killer script but know next to nothing about marketing. However, as I said in my last post that the motivation to wait such a long time is a huge lession in marketing that should warrent a closer look.

I have nothing but best wishes for Jake and MemberZilla. I joined the list for beta testers last years when he was active here and had full intentions of helping anywhere I could.

My OP, as I said, was curiouity only about the motivations of those willing to wait such a long time when proven products exist, some not as good and some much better than my own. I specifically stated my questin was not asked as a product owner. I am looking at this as a marketer in training who sees something that perhaps others do not. Nothing sinister about it at all.

[Lucy Weber]

Originally Posted by Johnny Slater

No sour grapes intended Lucy. I'll be the first to admit that I can make a killer script but know next to nothing about marketing. However, as I said in my last post that the motivation to wait such a long time is a huge lession in marketing that should warrent a closer look.

I have nothing but best wishes for Jake and MemberZilla. I joined the list for beta testers last years when he was active here and had full intentions of helping anywhere I could.

My OP, as I said, was curiouity only about the motivations of those willing to wait such a long time when proven products exist, some not as good and some much better than my own. I specifically stated my questin was not asked as a product owner. I am looking at this as a marketer in training who sees something that perhaps others do not. Nothing sinister about it at all.

Perhaps you should be a little more careful with your verbiage in the future. Words and phrases like "broken promises" and "backlash" really lend a post an air of competitive sabotage IMO. Perhaps that isn't what you meant, but without the ability to see your expressions and read your body language, all we have to go on is the words you choose to express yourself.

[Johnny Slater]

Lucy, I was just posting the pure truth, with no spin at all on it.

If you look the products forum you will see several instances where it was announced a release would happen within weeks.. then nothing would happen for a few months. I'm not trying to sabatage anyone, but I have always been very direct and strictly honest in my postings, and I don't sugar coat what I say.

I stand by my original statement and take nothing back. I meant exactly what I said and every word of it can be verified quite easily. No ill intentions, but just straight fact.

[Kate Anderson]

Johnny,

Memberzilla was something we had wanted to do for many years. As a membership webmaster since 99, I struggled to find anything that did everything I needed (back then, GroundBreaks' CGI script was about the only affordable option out there). When we planned out the software, we decided to create something that had all the bells & whistles of the high end (and high priced) software but at a price that the majority could afford. That was the most important aspect to the project.

It's taken longer to create because it's been two programmers coding it rather than a large team (which would mean a large price) but it will be well worth it. Craig is the main developer of the project now and trust me, he's working around the clock and as a single father, I'm sure it hasn't been all peaches & cream to get things done, but he's definitely committed and we've all been helping out as much as we can.

If it were just a smaller script like most of the $200, $300 ones out there, it would have been done a long, long time ago.. but it's quite extensive, I'll give you that.. (although I am always complaining that they need to trim it down as they keep coming up with new things that could be added later..) Men! :P

Trust me, it was a horrible experience not being able to meet past deadlines. It wasn't something just tossed around or casually pushed back. It meant 24 hour days of coding, no sleep, no family, pushing through trying to get it done and realizing that it makes no sense to rush something that means this much to everyone involved. But it's coming, in fact, very soon.. and I hope that those who have been waiting feel compensated.. I believe they will.

[Johnny Slater]

Why is it that people always grab ahold of any negative thing they can find and refuse to let go of it? My question is not about the script, the programmers, or the owner. I did not ask why Jake hasn't been hung by a tree...lol

My question was and still is what motivates people to wait such a long time for a product. Nothing more, nothing less.

Lets not turn this into a product war when it isn't one.

[Kate Anderson]

Johnny,

Your question regarding what makes people wait is a very good one. I tried to answer that as best as I could, but also had to address the other part of your question which wasn't focused on what makes people wait but rather why there wasn't a backlash (and btw, there was and understandably so).

Personally, I think people are waiting because they know that it will be a very high quality script, at a fraction of the price. People can't afford some of the scripts out there that are comparable to what MZ is being developed to feature and include. It's probably as simple as that. Even involved with the project, I am waiting as well.. I've tried 99% of the affordable ones out there (and one of the not so affordable ones that was a complete nightmare) and they were either problematic in terms of bugs, navigation, or worse, security (you wouldn't believe how unprotected some of the scripts on the marketplace are). Then again, as a developer yourself, you probably had a very similar reason for creating what you have.

For whatever reason that people are waiting and being so supportive, we're very grateful and hope to earn this loyalty once we are able to spring into action.. We're definitely more than ready.

[Bev Clement]

Simple, people are always prepared to wait for the best to be released.

I am not talking just about this script, but anything in life, people want the best, and are prepared to wait for it, and pay for it.

Take some of the best cars around, and the time it takes to get a new model, why because they are unique and like nothing else around. The best in anything, will always take time.

[grafxgold]

Why people wait?

Kate and Bev in their last post above have
pretty much said it all.
Especially Kate.

I am one of the waitees.

Why in my case is that of over 10 scripts
(including Johnny's) none of them can integrate
as proposed by the Memberzilla script.

Security and integration! Items such as wordpress and
autoresponders. Unlimited downline setup
for affiliates and members and protected content downloads
and the list goes on.
That is why I wait and will continue to wait.
"Good things come to those that wait."

Added Note: I also agree with Kate on Mr. Slater's verbage
and as especially stated by Lucy also.
There has never been any advertising for Memberzilla.
Those that read the forum have been told time and again
not to wait if they need to move on.

I volunteer to wait as I stated above.
Why not! I can make more by waiting instead of losing
customers (and product ... security issue) as I have time and again
with the other scripts.
Only two scripts have worked at this point and
they are high priced (in the $2000 plus range)
I will wait. Off my soapbox.

[Mountainbird]

Originally Posted by grafxgold

...There has never been any advertising for Memberzilla.

Since 2007 they have established a very nice and promising website with a page rank of 4: Memberzilla - Powerful Membership Website Software.

This IS advertising!

[zeurois]

Does memberzilla have anything to do with mozilla?

Who is the owner ?

[Joseph Then]

Sorry, Kate but I do kind of stand with Johnny here.

I understand that there is a need to have a good piece of software to launch but to wait for MONTHS is not a good business practice. Jake could have just go for a number of selected beta-testers and not just ask people to sign up for the waiting list and nothing is happening. To be on the waiting list is already a promotion and advertising.

You see, people are waiting for the launch, people are pushing back their projects for the script. I am one of those who is waiting and I gave up waiting and went for other scripts.

Memeberzilla have lost a lot of businesses for the past few month trying to release a "good" software.

Let's look at one example:

John Delevera's long awaited Fantasos software.

It sure took a long time and the released script isn't perfect. However, John constantly update us the progress. After the launch, he is on his toes when there are bugs reports, quickly patching the bugs. We, as users, understand that there are bugs and we are happy that John is updating without charging.

Mike Filsaime's Butterfly Marketing Script is also another example. The wait is short, the script is not perfect but Mike grab a lot of market share and his programmers are constantly updating their script to make it better.

To date, after waiting for months for Memberzilla, I have used BFM, Fantasos and SMP to launch a number of member sites.

Do you think I will want to change to Memberzilla? Chance are, I won't. My foundations are already set for the membership sites and it wouldn't make sense for me to switch the script and risk losing my customers.

In short, Jake may have lost me as a client, even if he presents me with a perfect script.

[Mountainbird]

Originally Posted by Joseph Then

Sorry, Kate but I do kind of stand with Johnny here.

I understand that there is a need to have a good piece of software to launch but to wait for MONTHS is not a good business practice...

Very well said, Joseph.

Your post is just what I'm thinking.

Nobody knows is there even a beta testing in progress or not. I's very hard to sit back and wait just in the dark.

Karl

[KarlWarren]

It may not be "good business practice" to some...

But, it's THEIR BUSINESS and they want it to be right.

If they don't want to release a script/solution that they're not 100% happy with, I congratulate them for it.

If you choose to wait, that's up to you... if you don't, find something else.

Until you pay money, they are under no obligation to you.

Hahaha, I feel like a good rant today.

[Kate Anderson]

I understand where you are coming from Joseph, and I wouldn't blame you for not switching existing membership sites over, especially considering it probably took quite a bit of time to get those all set up and running properly.

That being said, this is being developed by programmers, not marketers and I do agree that the list possibly shouldn't have been introduced so early on.. As for some of the other scripts and how they were presented, a lot of them were rushed, as you said, and therefore had tons of problems and bugs to deal with. While every software is bound to have some, there are times when they could have been avoided if the developer, was concerned with presenting a solid script, rather than gobbling up as much of the market share as they could.

This is why, in fact, Memberzilla was even being developed. I had tried a lot of the other scripts out there, and I worked with a lot of people over the years who have as well. What they were left with were scripts that they had to outsource the installation of (you will still that happening throughout the industry, if you take a look), and then once it was installed, they couldn't customize it, work with it, or configure it properly, much less maintain or manage.

Then, there were the bugs. Like I said, there are bugs with everything that's released, but there are times when it's quite obvious that the rush to get something out on the market, merely to snag a few extra customers before the competitors do, have left membership site owners with broken sites and loss of business.

So, yes, it's taken awhile to get out there but when it does, your risks of running it on your site only to find out (once it's live and growing) that your scripts of choice just aren't scalable or flexible enough to sustain your community will be slim to none. We could have easily launched it quickly and made money (at your expense) but that wasn't the route we wanted to take.

I do understand your position though, and I certainly don't blame you. I have a membership site running another script right now just because I couldn't push back my launch date, and that's okay.. no one expects anyone to wait around or put their business on hold for a script, however once it is available, I am confident that all of this time and dedication will show through in the final product.

[Martin Luxton]

Kate

My first reaction when I saw this thread was

"Didn't it launch ages ago? Yeah, What DID happen to MemberZilla?"

I know you want to make the best possible product but what I don't understand is why you can't launch and then fix as you find more bugs.
(works for Microsoft ).

I'm not a programmer, so maybe I'm reading you wrong, but what I understand from your posts is that you haven't got the fundamental structure right yet. If this is the case, then delaying seems the only option.

Speaking from a customer and marketing point of view, could you not just release a lite version of the script that only, for example, handles encrypted downloads? This would win you some presold customers, keep you in the public eye and perhaps get you some revenue.

Martin

[Kate Anderson]

The structure was completed awhile ago. They are now working on integrating add ons and modules that they had created, and internally testing what they have already finished, piece by piece.

It's a very big script, and so releasing a light version just doesn't make sense right now, because people have waited so long for the full featured version (there are dozens of light weight scripts to protect downloads and so on, already on the market).

However, that being said, I do know that there are plans to offer a "lighter" version once the core product is available, that will be created from the main product, but it can't be released until the main one is finished because it will then be extracted from that.

I know that this has been a real learning experience in regards to pre-launching before pre-launching.. It would have been much better to start closer to the launch date or at least the beta testing phase, but there's not much that can be done about that now other than to just plough through, get it done and re-start/ramp up the pre-launch phase properly.

Thank you for your comments,

[Johnny Slater]

Kate,

You keep bringing up that Memberzilla is being produced by programmers instead of marketers. This is not a valid reason to advertise a product then not even have the product ready until a year later.

Many scripts available are done by programmers, DLGuard and my SMP just to name two. We manage to put out solid programs within a reasonable time frame and continue to provide updates and new features on a regular basis.

The marketer verses programmer argument just holds no water in this case. That being said, as I have expressed several times throughout this thread my question here was about the potential customers, not the programmers or the program.

You continue to bring this back to that one line in my entire post that mentioned the programmers, but that is not what the post was asking about.

Jake wants a solid product, thats understandable. I myself waited a few months before my initial launch to get everything right, but then again I also understand that no one script can be everything to everyone and didn't make the mistake of trying to.

As for the idea that Memberzilla was never advertised... Jake himself made a post on the old forum around 6 months ago looking for beta testers, which is how I originally learned of the script. That is advertising.

If you go searching for membership scripts in Google you will find Memberzilla enjoys a very high position in the search results. That is advertising.

If you look around at many of the blogs around that have posts in them about membership scripts you will find several that have posts about how great Memberzilla will be and that it will be available soon. Many of these posts are over 4 months old. That is advertising.

What you need to understand Kate, is that when you promise the moon and lead people to believe that you are close to delivering, then they will expect that. Jake did give the impression to many people that the script was days away, when it has now bee 6 months and even Jake himself has no idea when it will be ready.

Now, as I have said several times, my comments and questions are not from a competitior prespective, but from a customer one and from a marketer one.

Instead of just blindly sticking up for Jake and the program, please take a step back and look at the big picture. Memberzilla WAS promised to be available very soon over 6 months ago. I know for a fact because I saw Jakes post on the old forum asking for people to sign up for the advance notice list so they could get the beta version.

I have been on that list for months, and other than the initial welcome email I have never recieved another email from that list as to the condition of the script or when it will likely be ready.

I understand quite well the motivations behind wanting to create the software, the glut of really crappy programs being sold by everyone and their uncle is the very reason why Robert Puddy created LFM and why I created SMP.

However, by the time the product gets to market you are not going to have many die hard customers left. Waiting to get the script working is one thing, and I personally think it is a good thing.

However, waiting for it to be perfect and taking almost a year longer than advertised without giving those who signed up to the advance notice list any indication of whats going on is not good public relations.

That being said, it seems like you are bound and determined to turn this into something it isn't, and are not going to let the original question be answered without interjecting defense of Jake and Memberzilla so I am going to withdraw from this thread and go on to more important things.

[Martin Luxton]

Hi Kate

Thanks for your reply.

Just an idea. Why don't Craig and Jake make a series of short videos about the creation process?

Video 1: How NOT to integrate Wordpress into a membership script

"Craig and Jake Discover Working 24/7 Doesn't Improve Your Programming Skills"


Video 2: Eureka! Cracked Wordpress at Last!

"Craig and Jake Celebrate Major Breakthrough by . . . Sleeping"

It would create a buzz, get people involved with the product and the feedback from the public could give valuable ideas to the programmers.

Martin

[Kate Anderson]

Johnny,

I haven't turned this into something that it isn't, so please, have some respect. I responded to the questions that were asked.

Also, I am not sticking up for MZ or Jake or Craig, or anything like that. I am personally involved in the project and am just trying to explain some of what has been going on. There are no excuses for the mistakes that have been made, without a doubt, no excuse at all, but as I have said previously, there is little that can be done about that and the only thing to do is manage it better, from here on out.

There are a few things that you have said that I am confused about however, including that Jake "has no idea himself when it will be ready". As far as I know, Jake isn't in communication with you, so I am unsure where you got this information from. Craig is the one developing the remainder of the script, and we have a very clear idea as to when it will be ready. However, for the very reasons that were mentioned, we are not comfortable releasing that information until we are there..

Also, I have all the respect in the world for Sam (DLGuard) and Robert (LFM), and anyone else who has personally developed their product, and stands behind it. I have also personally worked for John Delavara before, and he's a fantastic person who gives 100% of himself to his projects.

I thank you for your comments and since you stated you were posting them as a "customer", rather than a competitor, we look forward to working with you.

[Mark McWilliams]

Originally Posted by Johnny Slater

If you go searching for membership scripts in Google you will find Memberzilla enjoys a very high position in the search results. That is advertising.

Sorry Johnny, but in my eyes you don't make any kind of statement here!

...Now what I mean here is that anyone can put something on a website, and Google can come along and spider it. If you then find it in your searches, how can it be advertising?!

All the person was trying to do was get their site ready for whenever they decided that the launch was taking place. I could name a number of sites that I've come across were they have the basics setup, and have a optin form, so that when the product owner DOES decide to launch, they will be the first to know!

Yes I'm young, and yes there's a good chance I'm missing something here, but at the end of the day...that's how I see things. You come across my site, and it's called advertising? - I thought that would be something else.

(I'm having one of Karl's days too if you hadn't noticed!)

While I await the launch of the script, I can just go and work on something different meaning that my business isn't going to suffer. It's no real loss to me, it just gives me time to work on something else. (Get some of the smaller projects complete, and at the end of the day, probably THANK them because of it!)

Thanks
Mark

[Joseph Then]

Originally Posted by KarlWarren

It may not be "good business practice" to some...

But, it's THEIR BUSINESS and they want it to be right.

If they don't want to release a script/solution that they're not 100% happy with, I congratulate them for it.

If you choose to wait, that's up to you... if you don't, find something else.

Until you pay money, they are under no obligation to you.

Hahaha, I feel like a good rant today.

Hi Karl, that's a nice rant you have today. However, the point I want to make is that it is not a good business practice because of the delay in waiting.

To get people into the waiting list, informing them that "it will be ready in 6 months" and then hear nothing from the owner IS a bad business practice.

It is the same concept as you having a list of subscribers, promising them free content and yet you don't deliver a single thing.

What will you get in the end? A bad reputation.

Why is that so? You see, there are a number of people in the waiting list who are pushing back their project in anticipation for their script. Now, it's not a matter of whether I want to wait or not, it's a matter of potential business lost to the people in the waiting list.

Had Jake or the team inform us saying that they will delay by another 6 months, the people will stop waiting and they will be able to plan for their business.

I know it is their business, I know it is their script, I know that they want to come out with a good script. However, it is important to keep us updated so that we are in the loop and not opening this thread and start 'arguing' with each other.

In short, there is NO communication.

We marketers will understand that this is a script and we can wait, as long as there is communication.

[Kate Anderson]

Once again, people were told not to wait, but rather encouraged to continue business as usual, utilizing other scripts on the market.

I admit that things were done incorrectly. For starters, the forum should have been a private one, reserved for testers and staff. The list shouldn't have been available until now, as it's closer to launch. Then, updates could have been sent out frequently, rather than the usual "wait, it's coming", which as you know, you can only say so many times.

So yes, things were mis-managed in terms of pre-launch (or pre-prelaunch), so what can we do, but try our best to communicate from here on out, and just get the script done and available to everyone who wants it. If this software is important to membership site owners (or those wanting to start such sites), that's all that will matter.. it being available to them. Not how we fumbled over a launch date, or how a forum was open long before the script was ready, etc. The reputation of those developing software should be based on how stable it is, how secure it is, how updated it is and how "customer" support is handled..

As far as I know, there are no customers quite yet.. only people interested in becoming one and based on the emails and requests that are received daily asking to be notified of when the software is available, I think the demand is certainly still there.

Your point is well taken, though, Joseph.. and I absolutely agree with most of it =)

Thanks,

[Johnny Slater]

Guys,

Kate and I have been conversing through Skype and any concerns I had brought up have been hashed out. There is no ill will on either side between either of us or our respective businesses.

Please let this rest. I posed what I thought was an honest question because I was curious what motivated people to wait on one thing when others were available. I meant no disrespect to anyone and did not mean to imply anything negative about anyone. If that is the idea you walk away with when you read my original post then I appoligize. That was not my intent.

If someone other than a person who was percieved to be a competitior asked this question then there wouldn't have been this much problem here. Just because I happen to sell a product similar to the one being discussed should not have automatically dismissed me from asking an honest question.

Truth be told the two products are not in the same league and are not even close to being in competition with each other. Memberzilla is a huge undertaking which will be pretty much a one stop shop that fills your every need. That is not the market my product is in, and it never will be in that market.

My question was taken out of context and attacked by one person and then the thread snowballed downhill. Lets please let this die out as there is nothing to be gained by anyone by rehashing the same things over and over.

[Joseph Then]

Having bringing out my point, I also wish Memberzilla a success. Hopefully, I can see some big features...

[Daniel McGonagle]

The Lesson here is to never read any threads I start,

[Mountainbird]

Two months later:

There is nothing new on MemberZilla launch. Their forum is dead. The only posts are some spam posts but that's all.

For me it looks like the whole project died.

I'm really sorry about that.

[Mike Hill]

Waiting for something stable etc is one thing but when it takes months and years then what's the point?

I've been waiting for the launch and just couldn't wait any longer so I went with aMember and Joomla.

Mike Hill

Originally Posted by Mark McWilliams

While I don't think this is an appropriate thread for the Warrior Forum, I do know from being on the MZ forum that Craig and Jake are doing their darn best to get it out as quick as possible!

They want to release something stable and secure, meaning that 2 days after launch there isn't already patches available!

Your best bet is to sign yourself up their list, along with the forum!

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Mark

[Mountainbird]

Meanwhile I went with Joomla too plus AEC.

I couldn't wait for ever.

[Mark McWilliams]

As stated on the MZ forum right now!...

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Mark

[Mountainbird]

Ha ha ha...

A nice idea to close a forum to show the people the project is dead.

[Mountainbird]

Originally Posted by Mark McWilliams

As stated on the MZ forum right now!...

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Mark

Same message still there...

[Eric Lorence]

They have proven to be masters of "buzz", but if they can't even get a lesser featured product out the door in this amount of time...

They should consider selling the company and product license to someone who can.

No point in waiting on any launch for this long, considering all the other membership options available.

[Johnny Slater]

Eric,

My understanding is that Jake did sell the product to someone else in late Nov. or early Dec. and that is when the forum went down.

An email was send out saying there was new ownership and things were about to change. It really is sad to see that even with new ownership that they still can't keep up with keeping interested people up to date with whats going on with the script.

Originally Posted by Eric Lorence

They have proven to be masters of "buzz", but if they can't even get a lesser featured product out the door in this amount of time...

They should consider selling the company and product license to someone who can.

No point in waiting on any launch for this long, considering all the other membership options available.

[Kate Anderson]

Craig Lawrence took over the project, and he's done a great job at catching up with things. It was a huge task, but he spent the entire Christmas holiday working on it all.

The forum has been re-opened as well. He will be sending out an email with details for those still interested.

[Suthan M]

i had talked to Jake before, and as far as i know, he was really looking at releasing it asap,but he also told me he will only release it when he is 120% sure everything is super-best..

Well, that's proffesionalism..

The fact that he havent release it yet shows that
1. Its not ready
2. Its not ready so he dont think he will like to sell a half-baked program.

Those who are willing to wait, shall wait, and those who dont, should go ahead and look at other solutions.

[Joseph Then]

Read my post in this thread and decide why I think it's not professional at all...

120%? Not even the best product in the world is 99% sure...

[Kate Anderson]

Joseph,

I am sorry to see you post that, I was really hoping that you would be on board to try it out. I agree that no product, regardless how hard you work on it will ever be perfect when it's first released, but Craig took it over because of a personal situation that Jake had to deal with, not because it had to be perfect (gosh, a year in the making it would have to be unbreakable if that were the case!).

Craig is working as hard as possible to get it finished, that's all I can say really. I would be actively pushing this thing out if I had the ability, but until I know, with certainty, that's completely ready to go, I really can't. I have seen a demo of it though, and it's really something else. I just wish that it were ready to go, I know you guys would like it just as much.