how to make 3 or 7 thousand within a month.

by IGP Banned 68 replies
Before i get to the question. Here is a little info on me.

Hi i just registered to WF. I don't have experience in making money online but i do know a fair amount about it. I just recently got over the confusion on where to start, the market to target and all the information. I have learned everything from Matt Carter, Adam Short, Anik Singal, Jeremy Shoemaker, Ryan Moran & Mark Ling. I have been studying for about 11 months and i have a fair amount of experience and knowledge in web design. Specifically CSS, getting into Java.

I know a bit about SEO im still understanding the concepts but i know how to do search and all that other good stuff Anyways i want to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month.

i need some help on a few things.

1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff?

2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.

3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.

4. is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes.
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  • Profile picture of the author DWolfe
    " Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff? "

    No one in there right mind is going to write for dirt cheap if they value there time. You may find someone starting out at a good rate but you usually get what you pay for.
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  • Profile picture of the author Jill Carpenter
    3 or 7? LOL, what about 4,5,and 6?

    1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
    Look for some PLR, or yes - you can hire some content writers.

    2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.
    Possible, but not likely w/o some upfront investment to outsource in an effort to get things running up quickly.

    3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.
    I am confused about "staying in control." Why would a larger influx of money send you out of control?

    Either way, if that happens you should call me and we'll take a trip to the casino to go relax for a few hours.

    4. is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes.
    I'd be really careful here. Good coaching is worth paying for - and you should probably find the coach - not the other way around.
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  • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
    This is not only ridiculous, it's insulting.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
      Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

      This is not only ridiculous, it's insulting.
      And yet with the way that most writers price themselves not all that unheard of. :rolleyes:
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    • Profile picture of the author IGP
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      i apologize for being blunt. I meant cheap not sub human.
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      • Profile picture of the author travlinguy
        Originally Posted by IGP View Post

        i apologize for being blunt. I meant cheap not sub human.
        Right. Maybe you should do a lot of hard work for peanuts and see if you like it. Unbelievable you'd come in here asking for help with this attitude.
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        • Profile picture of the author IGP
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          Your taking what was said a little too serious. Relax buddy....
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          • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
            Originally Posted by IGP View Post

            Your taking what was said a little too serious. Relax buddy....
            You are going to have to watch your wording then:

            Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
            As a writer myself I can attest that this would actually come pretty close to the "subhuman" price point you claim not to be looking for. If you want dirt cheap content, that is one thing. You'll get what you pay for. To actually think that there is a website or something you can go to and pick up "high quality stuff" for said low prices means you truly believe that there are suckers out there to be taken advantage of.
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        • Profile picture of the author gvsridhar171
          Originally Posted by travlinguy View Post

          Right. Maybe you should do a lot of hard work for peanuts and see if you like it. Unbelievable you'd come in here asking for help with this attitude.
          While I don't agree with IGP for using the word "dirt cheap" I do appreciate that he apologized instantly and there ends the matter. Again wounding him with this statement I think is unwarranted.

          Let us all be magnanimous and be helpful to each other rather than scrubbing the wound again and again.
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  • Profile picture of the author jbsmith
    Applaud you for your eagerness and enthusiasm, but try setting up a plan that will have you making 3-7K/month by end of year 1...you may get there sooner, but make sure you are setting up your business for consistent growth and long-term income potential, not just a flash-in-the-pan opportunity that will be worth less in 1-year's time.

    Ok, so I have had success outsourcing content over at vworker.com - I very closely evaluate my content developers based on prior experience, examples of their work, their ratings - often I have been able to find someone with direct experience in my the niche which helps bring the "inside" information that people value so much in content.

    Without knowing what your business model is (affiliate marketing, information products, a service...etc) it's tough to comment on how quickly your sales/profits will add up...$1K is possible in the first month for service business, a well launched infoproduct, but may not be for affiliate marketing unless you already have a list or traffic source.

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  • Profile picture of the author FredJones
    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
    How about writing it yourself if you are out of money right now? Or, if you have the money, how about getting high quality stuff? Usually, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. That said, see if some freelancer sites work out for you.

    By the way, I hope you got your demand analysis right. This can be deceptive.

    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.
    First month? Depends on what you are selling, to whom, how and so on. It is unlikely, but keep heart - maybe you know what you are doing or planning to do?

    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.
    1,000 is more likely than 3,000 in the first month. I didn't achieve anything close to 3,000 in my first month and hence I cannot comment whether that feel overwhelming. But how about counting your chicken only after your eggs hatch?
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  • Profile picture of the author Strega
    Originally Posted by IGP View Post


    Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
    Purchase Nuance's Dragon Naturally Speaking now you are no longer writing you are speaking. I you want it cheap and high quality do it yourself.
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  • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
    You can't.

    There are many Warriors who've been here for some months (and a few who've been here for some years) who haven't yet learned this little secret, but the reality is that it's close to impossible, when outsourcing writing, for "dirt cheap" and "high quality" to accompany one another.

    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month?
    It's terribly odds against.

    I won't say it's "impossible", because I made $3,000 in my fifth month, after struggling and earning close to nothing for my first 4 months, and if that fifth month had been my first month instead (which - if I'd started with the right knowledge - it could have been, just about) I suppose I might have managed it. But the chances are somewhere between minute and non-existent, I think. There's some luck in it, doubtless, but I needed the 4-month learning-curve of being misadvised and misguided, getting exasperated, and working a lot of things out for myself.

    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month.
    This is clearly far more realistic. And even then, it might be asking a lot. In my opinion (not everyone will agree), it would be easier to make $2,000 in your second month than to make $1,000 in your first.

    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    4. is anyone willing to coach me?
    You'll find someone, for the right coaching fee, probably. But be aware that it will need to be someone with a pretty high income, whose hourly rate is therefore on the high side, and you'll be looking at many, many hours of coaching, support and checking. I don't say it wouldn't be a good investment (and for some people, it might be), but you'd be looking at a major start-up expense, there, for it to have a realistic chance of working. You'd need to find exactly the right person, and that's much more difficult to do - especially when you have no experience and perhaps little judgement of these things - than most people appreciate.

    Good luck!
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    • Profile picture of the author cjreynolds
      I realize "dirt cheap" is seldom synonymous with "high quality", but let's not pick his every word apart - This guy at least has somewhat of a plan, which is more than most folks who start this kind of thread - gotta applaud that...

      As for my advice, I consider myself a newbie, so I'll defer to the helpful posts above and wish you good luck!
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      • Profile picture of the author Alexa Smith
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        Originally Posted by cjreynolds View Post

        I realize "dirt cheap" is seldom synonymous with "high quality", but let's not pick his every word apart - This guy at least has somewhat of a plan
        The problem is that all the people here with any successful experience are well aware that if his plan rests on outsourcing a combination of high quality and low prices (whatever wording you use to describe that), a wheel's going to come off it, and pretty quickly.

        So, yes - let's not pick his every word apart, but let's be honest enough with him, and helpful enough to him, to put our emphasis on clarifying that?
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          Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

          The problem is that all the people here with any successful experience are well aware that if his plan rests on outsourcing a combination of high quality and low prices (whatever wording you use to describe that), a wheel's going to come off it, and pretty quickly.

          So, yes - let's not pick his every word apart, but let's be honest enough with him, and helpful enough to him, to put our emphasis on clarifying that?
          Agree totally - but yours' was a good post - I was mainly talkin bout the flamers
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        • Profile picture of the author celente
          Originally Posted by Portlandrocks View Post

          I would recommend building a list first. I was in the same boat as you just a little while ago and I started out just writing articles. Since then I have realized the power of building a solid list.

          Lists can do two things for you:

          They can allow you a measurable amount of traffic (as long as you keep all your data tracked well).

          They build (if done correctly) trust with your clients/customers which means they will be more likely to purchase from you.

          I would recommend searching this forum for about 1 million different ways to build that list and what to do with it. There are much smarter people on here than me. Ask them the details
          Also with list building you learn a lot about marketing, copy, creating passive income, tips, tricks what works and what doesnt.

          Once you master the art of list building and sendin emails at the right time, to the right people, with the right message and offer....you whole life will change. It was the single biggest thing that transformed my life.
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    • Profile picture of the author celente
      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      You can't.

      There are many Warriors who've been here for some months (and a few who've been here for some years) who haven't yet learned this little secret, but the reality is that it's close to impossible, when outsourcing writing, for "dirt cheap" and "high quality" to accompany one another.


      Good luck!
      Alexa is spot on again.

      I outsource alot of my content these days, and I can tell you I went through hell to find the right particular writers for our niches.

      I can say I have paid over $100 for one article, while some may laugh and scoff at that price, I can tell you it has bought in well over hundreds if not thousands of subscribers and also alot more than $100 in sales.

      Remember that saying that goes oh...I dont know.... "You get what you pay for" Well that definatly applies here.

      Good luck.
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      • Profile picture of the author theemperor
        Originally Posted by celente View Post

        I can say I have paid over $100 for one article, while some may laugh and scoff at that price, I can tell you it has bought in well over hundreds if not thousands of subscribers and also alot more than $100 in sales.
        In that case, for you, the $100 price point was ... dirt cheap!
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      Originally Posted by Alexa Smith View Post

      You can't.

      There are many Warriors who've been here for some months (and a few who've been here for some years) who haven't yet learned this little secret, but the reality is that it's close to impossible, when outsourcing writing, for "dirt cheap" and "high quality" to accompany one another.
      They'll learn it. The hard way. One of the problems, quite simply, is that people who are not skilled writers cannot tell the difference between top notch, compelling writing and average, run of the mill type prose by sampling only the latter. They may finally discern the difference if they put quality against average, but they are not exposing themselves to quality as they are scouring the net for the lowest possible price.

      A quality writer, however, can spot sub-par within the first couple of sentences.

      Attrition will take its toll on low quality sites, even if they last for a few more years. Forget about Google and what they are doing to combat it, the real threat to uninspiring content continuing to flood the net is the evolution of the end user. The exponential maturation of the average internet surfer. They will demand more.

      A keyboard and a fiverr gig do not a writer make ...
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
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    You seem to have gone a long way and taken the time to learn a lot without practicalizing.

    Don't be afraid of trying because without error you can barely make perfection.

    While you try to jump start your vehicle, make Warriorforum (search area/threads) and the search engines your friends.

    They are really worth spending the night with.
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  • Profile picture of the author Des Lau
    You seem to be suffering from a condition called 'high hopes, but reality hits'

    Seriously, it's not until you try all this stuff that things will come up and you will be disappointed. Not trying to sound discouraging but bolting out of the start line with high expectations is a grave mindset to have.

    I know you have been studying and putting things in place, but it's not until you actually start DOING is when you really learn how difficult this game really is. Talking 3-7 thousand within a month is very opportunistic and if we could have all started like that, then order me a sandwich from the pope.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Tsnyder
    First... there is no such thing as high quality writing for dirt cheap prices.

    Second... I'd love to help you but you specifically need to earn 3 or 7
    thousand and the plan I have makes 4500... maybe next time.
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  • Profile picture of the author NoviIM
    Research a profitable niche, do keyword research, buy a domain, start building a website around your niche and keywords, add relevant content, do SEO, build quality backlinks.
    Rinse and Repeat.
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  • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    Where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff?
    YOU. You write the low priced stuff for yourself. WE don't want your offer.

    Look.. my next door neighbor makes over $300 a day doing basic landscaping.

    That's right...

    He drives to a site, sits on a lawnmower, breaks out the weed eater and throws some mulch down.

    I however have to go through the ridiculous demands of people that want everything for nothing and since they decided to pay my prices, want even more!

    That includes:

    Tons of research
    Uniqueness
    Personality
    Perfect grammar
    Selling ability
    The silver platter

    All for the amazing price of $16 for 500 words!

    So people like you can rip me off for all my hard work in hopes to make $1,000's a month sitting on your ass, using my work to get paid.

    No wonder why the FTC and Google are slapping people with "hopes and dreams" online.
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  • Profile picture of the author seotothecore
    The big money quick comes from adwords not seo or organic rankings. Get a niche and a supplier, throw up a fantastic design, and a pro campaign and let the dough roll in. Need a few K for the design and the advertising and your ready to roll.
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  • Profile picture of the author tristatemedia
    i agree seo, mi ahve been cjasing my tail for many months until i found out money is in the list and money is in ppc (any kind). keep testing ads until you find what works. you will lost money at first. remember you are really not losing money but buying great data to see what works. so, mtesting and finding what works.
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  • Profile picture of the author Gerald Arno
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    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    Before i get to the question. Here is a little info on me.

    Hi i just registered to WF. I don't have experience in making money online but i do know a fair amount about it. I just recently got over the confusion on where to start, the market to target and all the information. I have learned everything from Matt Carter, Adam Short, Anik Singal, Jeremy Shoemaker, Ryan Moran & Mark Ling. I have been studying for about 11 months and i have a fair amount of experience and knowledge in web design. Specifically CSS, getting into Java.

    I know a bit about SEO im still understanding the concepts but i know how to do search and all that other good stuff Anyways i want to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month.

    i need some help on a few things.

    1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff?

    2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.

    3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.

    4. is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes.
    1. You will need to find someone who can write based on your budget. There is no such thing a getting the best for as cheap as possible. The better people you hire THE MORE you will need to pay. Quality determines the price.

    2. Everything is possible, but you mentioned that you don't have experience. If you have money to leverage, proper skills and high confidence in what you do, odds are decent that you can make that amount in the short term.

    4. I'm pretty sure that many warriors were happy for question 4.

    When you hire a coach, make sure to consider the following factors:

    1) Your market need.

    2) Your budget.

    3) The coach's competency and experience.

    4) Duration of the coaching process.

    5) Your flexibilities.
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    • Profile picture of the author Thomas Belknap
      Another option would be to create a joint venture with someone who is an expert in that market. They write the content and you take care of all marketing and profitability.
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  • Profile picture of the author lotsofsnow
    "I have learned everything from Matt Carter, Adam Short, Anik Singal, Jeremy Shoemaker, Ryan Moran & Mark Ling."

    " is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes."

    Well, it is impossible to coach you: You already know everything.

    If the first statement is true you would not be wondering how to make money but you would actually make more than you can count.

    Also: before 3 or 7 k comes 1 and not thousand but a single dollar. Make that one dollar and you are off to a good start.

    PS:
    I have no clue really about CSS or Java (is that not some kind of coffee bean??)... That does not prevent me from making money.
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  • Profile picture of the author makingiants
    To find content, Google your niche + plr.
    You should find some PLR you can rewrite.

    If you don't know what you're doing, you'll
    definitely make some mistakes. Set some realistic goals,
    meeting one, then going after a more difficult one.
    (First sale by___, First $100 by ____, first $500 by _____,
    First $1,000 by _______, $3,000 by ______,etc.).

    HTH
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    • Profile picture of the author absoluteallen
      Originally Posted by makingiants View Post

      To find content, Google your niche + plr.
      You should find some PLR you can rewrite.

      If you don't know what you're doing, you'll
      definitely make some mistakes. Set some realistic goals,
      meeting one, then going after a more difficult one.
      (First sale by___, First $100 by ____, first $500 by _____,
      First $1,000 by _______, $3,000 by ______,etc.).

      HTH
      Vince aka makingiants
      To IGP,

      Check the quote, right up your alley.

      This is exactly the "where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff" type of content you will get with that mindset.


      That's the type of stuff people click, click, click.. away from

      P.S. If I offended either poster by this post I am sorry. Sorry for not thinking my response out more thoroughly. I could of done a better job but then I would have been banned, maybe.

      Pals forever
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  • Profile picture of the author mrinternational
    This reminds me of a classic case of champagne taste with a beer budget.

    If you want to be successful online look at what other warriors have replied already, do some homework, calculate costs, save up, execute.

    Plan, prepare, execute. This works in any niche. BTW if you get stuck in any part, head on over to Google and/or YouTube to get information on how to solve technical problems or whatever it is that you are stuck on.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author mrinternational
    This reminds me of a classic case of champagne taste with a beer budget.

    If you want to be successful online look at what other warriors have replied already, do some homework, calculate costs, save up, execute.

    Plan, prepare, execute. This works in any niche. BTW if you get stuck in any part, head on over to Google and/or YouTube to get information on how to solve technical problems or whatever it is that you are stuck on.

    Good luck.
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  • Profile picture of the author Paperchasing
    I still can't get over the title. Why, specifically 3k OR 7k? Where did those numbers come from? This whole thing just makes so little sense.
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    • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
      Originally Posted by Paperchasing View Post

      I still can't get over the title. Why, specifically 3k OR 7k? Where did those numbers come from? This whole thing just makes so little sense.
      He lost his puppy at age 4.
      His first love left him at age 5.
      He had no friends at school during age 6.

      Those numbers are taboo to him now.

      Seriously though, probably just a typo.
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  • Profile picture of the author seogoa
    Originally Posted by Alyona The Publicist View Post

    Since you are still starting out my advice is don't target any amount of money as a profit, start by building a good list and maybe try to get a niche of your own where you become an expert and start getting customers in that niche.

    Don't worry money and profits will follow...
    Yes, I totally agree. I don't think that making 3-7k in the very first month being a 'total' newbie is something easy. Try to start aiming for 1k for first month. Still you're learning a lot and of course in a while, you can earn more.

    All the best.
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    • Profile picture of the author Dan Curtis
      Originally Posted by Christopher Fox View Post

      A quality writer, however, can spot sub-par within the first couple of sentences.
      Very true. It even works for novels. It's possible to recognize fine writing by opening a book to a random page and reading a single paragraph.

      By the way, it is hard to tell if the original poster is actually seeking advice or is merely having some fun. I don't see anything in his post to indicate that he has any realistic grasp of the situation.
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      • Profile picture of the author Christopher Fox
        Originally Posted by Dan Curtis View Post

        Very true. It even works for novels. It's possible to recognize fine writing by opening a book to a random page and reading a single paragraph.
        It is an art, after all.

        By the way, it is hard to tell if the original poster is actually seeking advice or is merely having some fun. I don't see anything in his post to indicate that he has any realistic grasp of the situation.
        Hadn't considered that, but it certainly could be the case. On that note, it could even be a writer trying to make a point about appropriate rates. Unfortunately, many honest and eager newbies seem to lack that grasp you referenced. After looking into the various 'freelance' type sites and seeing requests for $1.50/500 word articles to $50/8000 word technical works, all demanding perfect grammar of course, it is easy to understand why many writers use words and terms such as, 'insulting' and 'slave labor' while opining about those freelance rates that appear to be the unfortunate norm.

        It pains me to see what passes for writers on the net. With 90% of the 'articles' I read online, I hear an accompanying gasp of 10,000 Catholic nuns and a flutter of their habits as they reach for their straight edges, looking for knuckles to slap. The Catholicism didn't quite stick, but I had deeper knowledge of grammar by the 5th grade than most college graduates do today. I thank them for that.

        Plenty of it fell into disuse and has been forgotten, but there was a time when I could speak intelligently about gerunds, past participles, etc., and I was but a preteen.

        I do believe it will sort itself out in the long run, as the people focusing on dirt cheap writing will eventually be sitting on sites that end up as collection points for electronic cobwebs and dust, relegated to the scrap heap of internet junk.

        It's a wave. Still going relatively strong, but with a definable and abrupt end in sight ...
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      Omar137, the sad part is that if you take a look around, they are everywhere. But, as I said a few posts above, a keyboard and a fiverr gig do not a writer make. We are merely at a point where most have not yet figured that particular point out as flooding the net with microsites laden with the proper keywords and backlinks, regardless of writing quality, is still a profitable venture.

      Profitable for now ...
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  • Profile picture of the author b.super13
    I don't get why 3 or 7k is your goal...

    If you have made 0 online, I would start with like $500 in your first month and move on from there.

    Many people who don't reach their goals in their first month online become discouraged and give up.

    Either way - you should build an email list to reach your income goals.
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    • Profile picture of the author mizambar
      Originally Posted by b.super13 View Post

      I don't get why 3 or 7k is your goal...

      If you have made 0 online, I would start with like $500 in your first month and move on from there.

      Many people who don't reach their goals in their first month online become discouraged and give up.

      Either way - you should build an email list to reach your income goals.
      Agree here!

      I'm not going to come down on your verbiage for hiring writers. There are plenty of great places to find quality workers. But ultimately you get what you pay for with writing.

      My advice would be to start by doing the writing, list building and other aspects of your marketing yourself. Only then, will know *what* you actually want with your business. If you don't know what type of content is good, it's hard to find that diamond in the rough who provides quality articles at an affordable price. Trust me...it's taken me a few years to find one writer who knows a lot about my particular niche.
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  • Profile picture of the author manicmethods
    IGP, ignore a lot of people who have replied. Yes, the way you put what you said was a little blunt, but hey, you're new and let's be honest, as a newbie a lot of people thought you could get content written for pennies.

    Some people just like to prove they're higher up in the hierarchy than you are (something which you will become familiar with if you stick around on the Warrior Forum). You'll ask questions, then get shot down and so on. But it's like any online community, you get the occasional jumped up arrogant [FILL THE BLANK]!

    Anyways, to go on what you are asking, I must agree with a lot of people, WRITE YOURSELF.

    You may HATE the topic, but knuckle down and write yourself. If you can't make money with yourself doing all the work, then don't waste money outsourcing it.

    I also think your goal is a bit ambitious. I personally think you're better off setting a goal of $3,000 to $7,000 per month... In 6 months time.

    With 6 months, you can get lists built, content written, products created to promote or whatever method you are taking.

    1 month is 30 days and 30 days is quite simply... Not enough time!

    Good luck though IGP!
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    • Profile picture of the author mogulmap
      Originally Posted by manicmethods View Post

      IGP, ignore a lot of people who have replied. Yes, the way you put what you said was a little blunt, but hey, you're new and let's be honest, as a newbie a lot of people thought you could get content written for pennies.

      Some people just like to prove they're higher up in the hierarchy than you are (something which you will become familiar with if you stick around on the Warrior Forum). You'll ask questions, then get shot down and so on. But it's like any online community, you get the occasional jumped up arrogant [FILL THE BLANK]!
      I DITTO that one!!!
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    • Profile picture of the author successproducts
      Wow -- I chuckled when I read this sentence ...
      is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes.
      hohoho -- I was dreaming like that when I first started out ... but then I asked myself who is willing to coach me? What is in it for them? I absolutely sense your sincerity and your hummm so-called live in the cloud hohoho ... but dreams do come true and miracles do happen ... that a someone who is in the forum, who is making millions of dollars a year who will sign you up and look over your shoulders to make sure you don't make mistake ...

      I don't dare to laugh at your dream as all things first started with a dream, a thought somewhat ...

      However to be an excellent marketer -- ask what you can do to others instead of asking what others can do for you! ... Yeah I guess I am borrowing the famous sentence from JFK ...

      An excellent marketer is the one - NOT TO THINK FIRST OF MAKING MONEY but what to give and to give and to give ... That model WORKS big time yet it deludes me for decade.
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    • Profile picture of the author bbjumpman
      It gets kind of old seeing guys just post about "how can I make xx amount in xx amount of time".

      I like to compare this to losing weight. It's not about how many pounds you can lose in a month. It's about making a lifestyle change to lose weight and becoming healthy.

      The same thing applies to making money online. Sure you can make a few dollars here and there but if you're serious about bringing in some big checks it's a lifestyle change. Learn it, understand it and apply it.
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  • Profile picture of the author gasman
    Kind of an odd question, 3 or 7 thousand lol. Why not just say 5 thousand? Anyway, you just need to find a place to start, find something that is working for you and scale it up. Then once you do reach the "3 or 7 thousand" mark just keep scaling, no reason to stop there. Good luck and don't give up and learn from your mistakes and you will do fine.
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  • Profile picture of the author zpivat
    Originally Posted by IGP View Post


    3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.


    My answer is probably going to startle you, but here it is: why not try working in the oil sands industry (e.g.: in Alberta, Canada)? Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with internet marketing, and yes, the work is very gruelling, and can even be dangerous/lethal, but the money (and I mean big money) is really there.....people (or shall I say, kids?) in their late teens/early 20s are making $100K - $300K yearly. That's AT LEAST $8300/month, surpassing your goal . The work hours? 12 to 16 hours per day. You do get long yearly vacations though.....I believe 2 to 3 months per year, depending on the shut down seasons.

    Someone who has done such a job shared his experience, and he even shared some tips on how you can get started, how to find job postings in that industry, etc. Here it is: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!

    If you are tough, both mentally and physically, you might as well make it in that industry .
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    • Profile picture of the author IGP
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      Originally Posted by zpivat View Post

      My answer is probably going to startle you, but here it is: why not try working in the oil sands industry (e.g.: in Alberta, Canada)? Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with internet marketing, and yes, the work is very gruelling, and can even be dangerous/lethal, but the money (and I mean big money) is really there.....people (or shall I say, kids?) in their late teens/early 20s are making $100K - $300K yearly. That's AT LEAST $8300/month, surpassing your goal . The work hours? 12 to 16 hours per day. You do get long yearly vacations though.....I believe 2 to 3 months per year, depending on the shut down seasons.

      Someone who has done such a job shared his experience, and he even shared some tips on how you can get started, how to find job postings in that industry, etc. Here it is: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!

      If you are tough, both mentally and physically, you might as well make it in that industry .

      Your a loser. I love your lack of consideration, its a milestone moron. Stay inside your house and don't come out, you will be doing humanity a great favor.
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      • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
        Originally Posted by IGP View Post

        Your a loser. I love your lack of consideration, its a milestone moron. Stay inside your house and don't come out, you will be doing humanity a great favor.
        In a thread where almost every answer is a troll answer in some form or fashion, you're going to go after the one guy who gave you a good answer that you can implement? Wow.

        On second thought, maybe you couldn't implement it. The way you responded seems to scream "lack of mental toughness".
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        • Profile picture of the author IGP
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          Originally Posted by Joe Robinson View Post

          In a thread where almost every answer is a troll answer in some form or fashion, you're going to go after the one guy who gave you a good answer that you can implement? Wow.

          On second thought, maybe you couldn't implement it. The way you responded seems to scream "lack of mental toughness".
          Nooo....he's just lucky i read his..it just proves people's lack of logical thought. I haven't even bothered reading others. I thought this thread was finished. Apparently anything that says "money" or has numbers on it attracts them. Perhaps i should take advantage of this.
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      • Profile picture of the author zpivat
        Originally Posted by IGP View Post

        Your a loser. I love your lack of consideration, its a milestone moron. Stay inside your house and don't come out, you will be doing humanity a great favor.

        Wow that's such a cruel and rude answer...?! I was really just trying to help, and if you bothered checking out the thread that I shared with you, you'd have seen that it's a seriously long thread with solid information on how you can work in the oil sands industry, where people are actually making big money, although it has nothing to do with internet marketing at all. Why did you get so furious?!
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        • Profile picture of the author Joseph Robinson
          Originally Posted by zpivat View Post

          Wow that's such a cruel and rude answer...?! I was really just trying to help, and if you bothered checking out the thread that I shared with you, you'd have seen that it's a seriously long thread with solid information on how you can work in the oil sands industry, where people are actually making big money, although it has nothing to do with internet marketing at all. Why did you get so furious?!
          You not only suggested work; but hard work.:p

          Originally Posted by IGP View Post

          Nooo....he's just lucky i read his..it just proves people's lack of logical thought.
          Back up this statement. Tell me how his suggestion shows a lack of logical thought.

          Originally Posted by IGP View Post

          I haven't even bothered reading others. I thought this thread was finished.
          I thought it was finished as well. Then, a random member dropped by and pointed out a lucrative opportunity for you. If it wasn't about IM, so what? He went through the trouble of pointing out something you may have never thought of otherwise that would put you past your goals.

          Most people I know would call that a gift, not idiocy.

          Originally Posted by IGP View Post

          Apparently anything that says "money" or has numbers on it attracts them. Perhaps i should take advantage of this.
          If you had the ability, this thread wouldn't exist in the first place.
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        • Profile picture of the author tpw
          Originally Posted by zpivat View Post

          Wow that's such a cruel and rude answer...?! I was really just trying to help, and if you bothered checking out the thread that I shared with you, you'd have seen that it's a seriously long thread with solid information on how you can work in the oil sands industry, where people are actually making big money, although it has nothing to do with internet marketing at all. Why did you get so furious?!

          This guy only wants to hear how he can make that kind of money without investing sweat and tears into the process.

          Your first post was on target if the OP really wanted to know how to make the money... Unfortunately, the OP only wants to have others donate their hard work on his behalf... :rolleyes:
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  • Profile picture of the author stews
    It appears you have put a lot of time in educating yourself in internet marketing etc. Now it's time to put all you've learned to work and action. I did the same thing until I had more information than I knew what to do with. I would sugges concentrating on one project and one project only. As good as this forum is it can get you wrapped around the axle it you spend too much time on it. Concentrate on one project, get it set up and running than move on.
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  • Profile picture of the author 0oo0
    Why don't you find a high quality writer and do a joint venture with them?

    they write + you promote = split profits...

    negotiate a profit split.

    give a small guarantee PLUS smaller profit split.

    The hard truth is people that ARE good get what their worth no way around that.
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  • Profile picture of the author barryjames
    " Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff? "

    You are living in cuckoo land. Get real if you want to pay dirt cheap you will get dirt.
    A good quality article will cost you $10-00 or more.

    A much better alterative is to copy some PLR and then rewrite it. It is not that difficult. It is dirt cheap and truly will be a unique article.

    For example " This widget will really save you time and money"

    Can be rewritten:-

    "Our latest widget will not only save you a lot of money, but it will cut back on the hours that you previously spent cleaning your car"

    Its not rocket science and it is dirt cheap!
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  • Profile picture of the author Randohm
    Being passionate about what your marketing is key or being passionate about marketing itself is key. Some people can market the most boring stuff online because it's not about the stuff, it's about the marketing. The greatest salesmen love selling the greatest football players love football etc. If you've never done any real marketing you can't be sure you'll love marketing. If you're not interested in writing about your chosen niche and want to outsource your writing then you'll have to love outsourcing. If you're not excited about outsourcing all your writing and all the things that come with it and managing your business then maybe you should go back to the drawing board and look at what you really do get excited about. I don't enjoy internet marketing by itself as much as I enjoy telling the internet marketers who work for me what to do and I love my offline work.
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    • Profile picture of the author IGP
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      Originally Posted by Randohm View Post

      Being passionate about what your marketing is key or being passionate about marketing itself is key. Some people can market the most boring stuff online because it's not about the stuff, it's about the marketing. The greatest salesmen love selling the greatest football players love football etc. If you've never done any real marketing you can't be sure you'll love marketing. If you're not interested in writing about your chosen niche and want to outsource your writing then you'll have to love outsourcing. If you're not excited about outsourcing all your writing and all the things that come with it and managing your business then maybe you should go back to the drawing board and look at what you really do get excited about. I don't enjoy internet marketing by itself as much as I enjoy telling the internet marketers who work for me what to do and I love my offline work.
      I greatly appreciate the sympathy. It is very humble.
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  • Profile picture of the author GodMode52
    If people people knew how to make ''3-7 thousand'' within a month i doubt they would waste their time answering you on this forum..

    Basically if have some money to invest you can aim at something (surelly not 3-7k) , if you don't have or don't wonna invest any money then you should revise your goals. (:
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  • Profile picture of the author johnben1444
    While making 7k+ monthly is not impossible, it require a bit of time and skills.

    Below are my top ways of achieving that kind of income.

    Ad sense and affiliate programs like Amazon, click bank, commission junction.

    If you have got keyword research skills, seo experience and back links strategy then i suggest you build a mega ad sense site and the likes.

    One mega ad sense site can give you up to 10k monthly.

    The same can also be applied for amazon, i don't do CB or CJ but i believe they can be of such higher income.

    You can also have a mega amazon site.

    Here is a brief info on how on what i mean by mega site.

    1. Pick 13 to 20 keywords with a minimum of 3k searches monthly.

    2. Use the primary keyword as the site home page, the other keywords should be added to the home page as pages. That means you will have 13 to 20 pages for one site depending on the number of keyword chosen.

    3. Create supporting pages for each of this pages/keywords, i recommend between 5 to 10.

    4. Make your page keyword rich, images using alt, e.t.c for SEO.

    5. For affiliate programs you can have a squeeze page.

    6. Build back links to all your pages and home page.

    If you are able to get yourself on the first page of the search engine using using my criteria, you can surely achieve your income goal within a few months.

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  • Profile picture of the author UMS
    Originally Posted by IGP View Post

    1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition.
    Are you absolutely sure it is high demand and very low competition? You wouldn't believe the number of people who make this fundamental mistake right at the beginning and waste a lot of time, energy and money going after a niche that isn't worth their while.
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  • Profile picture of the author Social App Zone
    If you have a good work ethic I can probably guide you to 2k in a month in the social space. A little different than buying courses or writing blogs .. but then that is all yesterday.. most IMs seem to feeding off each others scraps
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