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Unread 28th March 2012, 01:13 PM   #1
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Before i get to the question. Here is a little info on me.

Hi i just registered to WF. I don't have experience in making money online but i do know a fair amount about it. I just recently got over the confusion on where to start, the market to target and all the information. I have learned everything from Matt Carter, Adam Short, Anik Singal, Jeremy Shoemaker, Ryan Moran & Mark Ling. I have been studying for about 11 months and i have a fair amount of experience and knowledge in web design. Specifically CSS, getting into Java.

I know a bit about SEO im still understanding the concepts but i know how to do search and all that other good stuff Anyways i want to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month.

i need some help on a few things.

1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff?

2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.

3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.

4. is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes.
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" Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff? "

No one in there right mind is going to write for dirt cheap if they value there time. You may find someone starting out at a good rate but you usually get what you pay for.

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3 or 7? LOL, what about 4,5,and 6?

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1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
Look for some PLR, or yes - you can hire some content writers.

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2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.
Possible, but not likely w/o some upfront investment to outsource in an effort to get things running up quickly.

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3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.
I am confused about "staying in control." Why would a larger influx of money send you out of control?

Either way, if that happens you should call me and we'll take a trip to the casino to go relax for a few hours.

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I'd be really careful here. Good coaching is worth paying for - and you should probably find the coach - not the other way around.

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Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
This is not only ridiculous, it's insulting.

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Applaud you for your eagerness and enthusiasm, but try setting up a plan that will have you making 3-7K/month by end of year 1...you may get there sooner, but make sure you are setting up your business for consistent growth and long-term income potential, not just a flash-in-the-pan opportunity that will be worth less in 1-year's time.

Ok, so I have had success outsourcing content over at vworker.com - I very closely evaluate my content developers based on prior experience, examples of their work, their ratings - often I have been able to find someone with direct experience in my the niche which helps bring the "inside" information that people value so much in content.

Without knowing what your business model is (affiliate marketing, information products, a service...etc) it's tough to comment on how quickly your sales/profits will add up...$1K is possible in the first month for service business, a well launched infoproduct, but may not be for affiliate marketing unless you already have a list or traffic source.

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This is not only ridiculous, it's insulting.
And yet with the way that most writers price themselves not all that unheard of. :rolleyes:
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i apologize for being blunt. I meant cheap not sub human.
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1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
How about writing it yourself if you are out of money right now? Or, if you have the money, how about getting high quality stuff? Usually, if you pay peanuts you get monkeys. That said, see if some freelancer sites work out for you.

By the way, I hope you got your demand analysis right. This can be deceptive.

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2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.
First month? Depends on what you are selling, to whom, how and so on. It is unlikely, but keep heart - maybe you know what you are doing or planning to do?

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3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.
1,000 is more likely than 3,000 in the first month. I didn't achieve anything close to 3,000 in my first month and hence I cannot comment whether that feel overwhelming. But how about counting your chicken only after your eggs hatch?

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i apologize for being blunt. I meant cheap not sub human.
Right. Maybe you should do a lot of hard work for peanuts and see if you like it. Unbelievable you'd come in here asking for help with this attitude.

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Your taking what was said a little too serious. Relax buddy....
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Your taking what was said a little too serious. Relax buddy....
You are going to have to watch your wording then:

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As a writer myself I can attest that this would actually come pretty close to the "subhuman" price point you claim not to be looking for. If you want dirt cheap content, that is one thing. You'll get what you pay for. To actually think that there is a website or something you can go to and pick up "high quality stuff" for said low prices means you truly believe that there are suckers out there to be taken advantage of.
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Where can i go to pay someone dirt cheap to write high quality stuff?
Purchase Nuance's Dragon Naturally Speaking now you are no longer writing you are speaking. I you want it cheap and high quality do it yourself.
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You can't.

There are many Warriors who've been here for some months (and a few who've been here for some years) who haven't yet learned this little secret, but the reality is that it's close to impossible, when outsourcing writing, for "dirt cheap" and "high quality" to accompany one another.

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2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month?
It's terribly odds against.

I won't say it's "impossible", because I made $3,000 in my fifth month, after struggling and earning close to nothing for my first 4 months, and if that fifth month had been my first month instead (which - if I'd started with the right knowledge - it could have been, just about) I suppose I might have managed it. But the chances are somewhere between minute and non-existent, I think. There's some luck in it, doubtless, but I needed the 4-month learning-curve of being misadvised and misguided, getting exasperated, and working a lot of things out for myself.

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3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month.
This is clearly far more realistic. And even then, it might be asking a lot. In my opinion (not everyone will agree), it would be easier to make $2,000 in your second month than to make $1,000 in your first.

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4. is anyone willing to coach me?
You'll find someone, for the right coaching fee, probably. But be aware that it will need to be someone with a pretty high income, whose hourly rate is therefore on the high side, and you'll be looking at many, many hours of coaching, support and checking. I don't say it wouldn't be a good investment (and for some people, it might be), but you'd be looking at a major start-up expense, there, for it to have a realistic chance of working. You'd need to find exactly the right person, and that's much more difficult to do - especially when you have no experience and perhaps little judgement of these things - than most people appreciate.

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I realize "dirt cheap" is seldom synonymous with "high quality", but let's not pick his every word apart - This guy at least has somewhat of a plan, which is more than most folks who start this kind of thread - gotta applaud that...

As for my advice, I consider myself a newbie, so I'll defer to the helpful posts above and wish you good luck!

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I realize "dirt cheap" is seldom synonymous with "high quality", but let's not pick his every word apart - This guy at least has somewhat of a plan
The problem is that all the people here with any successful experience are well aware that if his plan rests on outsourcing a combination of high quality and low prices (whatever wording you use to describe that), a wheel's going to come off it, and pretty quickly.

So, yes - let's not pick his every word apart, but let's be honest enough with him, and helpful enough to him, to put our emphasis on clarifying that?

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Right. Maybe you should do a lot of hard work for peanuts and see if you like it. Unbelievable you'd come in here asking for help with this attitude.
While I don't agree with IGP for using the word "dirt cheap" I do appreciate that he apologized instantly and there ends the matter. Again wounding him with this statement I think is unwarranted.

Let us all be magnanimous and be helpful to each other rather than scrubbing the wound again and again.

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You seem to be suffering from a condition called 'high hopes, but reality hits'

Seriously, it's not until you try all this stuff that things will come up and you will be disappointed. Not trying to sound discouraging but bolting out of the start line with high expectations is a grave mindset to have.

I know you have been studying and putting things in place, but it's not until you actually start DOING is when you really learn how difficult this game really is. Talking 3-7 thousand within a month is very opportunistic and if we could have all started like that, then order me a sandwich from the pope.

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You can't.

There are many Warriors who've been here for some months (and a few who've been here for some years) who haven't yet learned this little secret, but the reality is that it's close to impossible, when outsourcing writing, for "dirt cheap" and "high quality" to accompany one another.


Good luck!
Alexa is spot on again.

I outsource alot of my content these days, and I can tell you I went through hell to find the right particular writers for our niches.

I can say I have paid over $100 for one article, while some may laugh and scoff at that price, I can tell you it has bought in well over hundreds if not thousands of subscribers and also alot more than $100 in sales.

Remember that saying that goes oh...I dont know.... "You get what you pay for" Well that definatly applies here.

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First... there is no such thing as high quality writing for dirt cheap prices.

Second... I'd love to help you but you specifically need to earn 3 or 7
thousand and the plan I have makes 4500... maybe next time.

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You can't.

There are many Warriors who've been here for some months (and a few who've been here for some years) who haven't yet learned this little secret, but the reality is that it's close to impossible, when outsourcing writing, for "dirt cheap" and "high quality" to accompany one another.
They'll learn it. The hard way. One of the problems, quite simply, is that people who are not skilled writers cannot tell the difference between top notch, compelling writing and average, run of the mill type prose by sampling only the latter. They may finally discern the difference if they put quality against average, but they are not exposing themselves to quality as they are scouring the net for the lowest possible price.

A quality writer, however, can spot sub-par within the first couple of sentences.

Attrition will take its toll on low quality sites, even if they last for a few more years. Forget about Google and what they are doing to combat it, the real threat to uninspiring content continuing to flood the net is the evolution of the end user. The exponential maturation of the average internet surfer. They will demand more.

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The problem is that all the people here with any successful experience are well aware that if his plan rests on outsourcing a combination of high quality and low prices (whatever wording you use to describe that), a wheel's going to come off it, and pretty quickly.

So, yes - let's not pick his every word apart, but let's be honest enough with him, and helpful enough to him, to put our emphasis on clarifying that?
Agree totally - but yours' was a good post - I was mainly talkin bout the flamers

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Research a profitable niche, do keyword research, buy a domain, start building a website around your niche and keywords, add relevant content, do SEO, build quality backlinks.
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Where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff?
YOU. You write the low priced stuff for yourself. WE don't want your offer.

Look.. my next door neighbor makes over $300 a day doing basic landscaping.

That's right...

He drives to a site, sits on a lawnmower, breaks out the weed eater and throws some mulch down.

I however have to go through the ridiculous demands of people that want everything for nothing and since they decided to pay my prices, want even more!

That includes:

Tons of research
Uniqueness
Personality
Perfect grammar
Selling ability
The silver platter

All for the amazing price of $16 for 500 words!

So people like you can rip me off for all my hard work in hopes to make $1,000's a month sitting on your ass, using my work to get paid.

No wonder why the FTC and Google are slapping people with "hopes and dreams" online.
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The big money quick comes from adwords not seo or organic rankings. Get a niche and a supplier, throw up a fantastic design, and a pro campaign and let the dough roll in. Need a few K for the design and the advertising and your ready to roll.

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i agree seo, mi ahve been cjasing my tail for many months until i found out money is in the list and money is in ppc (any kind). keep testing ads until you find what works. you will lost money at first. remember you are really not losing money but buying great data to see what works. so, mtesting and finding what works.
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No one in there right mind is going to write for dirt cheap if they value there time. You may find someone starting out at a good rate but you usually get what you pay for.
Agreed.

I find it difficult that people want cheap but quality stuff. The two never go together in the long-term.

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Before i get to the question. Here is a little info on me.

Hi i just registered to WF. I don't have experience in making money online but i do know a fair amount about it. I just recently got over the confusion on where to start, the market to target and all the information. I have learned everything from Matt Carter, Adam Short, Anik Singal, Jeremy Shoemaker, Ryan Moran & Mark Ling. I have been studying for about 11 months and i have a fair amount of experience and knowledge in web design. Specifically CSS, getting into Java.

I know a bit about SEO im still understanding the concepts but i know how to do search and all that other good stuff Anyways i want to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month.

i need some help on a few things.

1. The market im targeting is very high demand, ridiculously low competition. The problem is i dont have an interest in writing about it. Where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff?

2. with no experience with making money online. Is it possible to make 3 or 7 thousand in my first month? I have heard many stories doing so but these gentlemen had more experience in the market than i have.

3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.

4. is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes.
1. You will need to find someone who can write based on your budget. There is no such thing a getting the best for as cheap as possible. The better people you hire THE MORE you will need to pay. Quality determines the price.

2. Everything is possible, but you mentioned that you don't have experience. If you have money to leverage, proper skills and high confidence in what you do, odds are decent that you can make that amount in the short term.

4. I'm pretty sure that many warriors were happy for question 4.

When you hire a coach, make sure to consider the following factors:

1) Your market need.

2) Your budget.

3) The coach's competency and experience.

4) Duration of the coaching process.

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Another option would be to create a joint venture with someone who is an expert in that market. They write the content and you take care of all marketing and profitability.

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"I have learned everything from Matt Carter, Adam Short, Anik Singal, Jeremy Shoemaker, Ryan Moran & Mark Ling."

" is anyone willing to coach me? watch over my shoulder as i do things and correct me in my mistakes."

Well, it is impossible to coach you: You already know everything.

If the first statement is true you would not be wondering how to make money but you would actually make more than you can count.

Also: before 3 or 7 k comes 1 and not thousand but a single dollar. Make that one dollar and you are off to a good start.

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I have no clue really about CSS or Java (is that not some kind of coffee bean??)... That does not prevent me from making money.
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To find content, Google your niche + plr.
You should find some PLR you can rewrite.

If you don't know what you're doing, you'll
definitely make some mistakes. Set some realistic goals,
meeting one, then going after a more difficult one.
(First sale by___, First $100 by ____, first $500 by _____,
First $1,000 by _______, $3,000 by ______,etc.).

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To find content, Google your niche + plr.
You should find some PLR you can rewrite.

If you don't know what you're doing, you'll
definitely make some mistakes. Set some realistic goals,
meeting one, then going after a more difficult one.
(First sale by___, First $100 by ____, first $500 by _____,
First $1,000 by _______, $3,000 by ______,etc.).

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To IGP,

Check the quote, right up your alley.

This is exactly the "where can i go to pay someone a low price to write high quality stuff" type of content you will get with that mindset.


That's the type of stuff people click, click, click.. away from

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This reminds me of a classic case of champagne taste with a beer budget.

If you want to be successful online look at what other warriors have replied already, do some homework, calculate costs, save up, execute.

Plan, prepare, execute. This works in any niche. BTW if you get stuck in any part, head on over to Google and/or YouTube to get information on how to solve technical problems or whatever it is that you are stuck on.

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This reminds me of a classic case of champagne taste with a beer budget.

If you want to be successful online look at what other warriors have replied already, do some homework, calculate costs, save up, execute.

Plan, prepare, execute. This works in any niche. BTW if you get stuck in any part, head on over to Google and/or YouTube to get information on how to solve technical problems or whatever it is that you are stuck on.

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I still can't get over the title. Why, specifically 3k OR 7k? Where did those numbers come from? This whole thing just makes so little sense.
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I still can't get over the title. Why, specifically 3k OR 7k? Where did those numbers come from? This whole thing just makes so little sense.
He lost his puppy at age 4.
His first love left him at age 5.
He had no friends at school during age 6.

Those numbers are taboo to him now.

Seriously though, probably just a typo.
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I can say I have paid over $100 for one article, while some may laugh and scoff at that price, I can tell you it has bought in well over hundreds if not thousands of subscribers and also alot more than $100 in sales.
In that case, for you, the $100 price point was ... dirt cheap!

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Since you are still starting out my advice is don't target any amount of money as a profit, start by building a good list and maybe try to get a niche of your own where you become an expert and start getting customers in that niche.

Don't worry money and profits will follow...
Yes, I totally agree. I don't think that making 3-7k in the very first month being a 'total' newbie is something easy. Try to start aiming for 1k for first month. Still you're learning a lot and of course in a while, you can earn more.

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A quality writer, however, can spot sub-par within the first couple of sentences.
Very true. It even works for novels. It's possible to recognize fine writing by opening a book to a random page and reading a single paragraph.

By the way, it is hard to tell if the original poster is actually seeking advice or is merely having some fun. I don't see anything in his post to indicate that he has any realistic grasp of the situation.

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Very true. It even works for novels. It's possible to recognize fine writing by opening a book to a random page and reading a single paragraph.
It is an art, after all.

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Hadn't considered that, but it certainly could be the case. On that note, it could even be a writer trying to make a point about appropriate rates. Unfortunately, many honest and eager newbies seem to lack that grasp you referenced. After looking into the various 'freelance' type sites and seeing requests for $1.50/500 word articles to $50/8000 word technical works, all demanding perfect grammar of course, it is easy to understand why many writers use words and terms such as, 'insulting' and 'slave labor' while opining about those freelance rates that appear to be the unfortunate norm.

It pains me to see what passes for writers on the net. With 90% of the 'articles' I read online, I hear an accompanying gasp of 10,000 Catholic nuns and a flutter of their habits as they reach for their straight edges, looking for knuckles to slap. The Catholicism didn't quite stick, but I had deeper knowledge of grammar by the 5th grade than most college graduates do today. I thank them for that.

Plenty of it fell into disuse and has been forgotten, but there was a time when I could speak intelligently about gerunds, past participles, etc., and I was but a preteen.

I do believe it will sort itself out in the long run, as the people focusing on dirt cheap writing will eventually be sitting on sites that end up as collection points for electronic cobwebs and dust, relegated to the scrap heap of internet junk.

It's a wave. Still going relatively strong, but with a definable and abrupt end in sight ...

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Omar137, the sad part is that if you take a look around, they are everywhere. But, as I said a few posts above, a keyboard and a fiverr gig do not a writer make. We are merely at a point where most have not yet figured that particular point out as flooding the net with microsites laden with the proper keywords and backlinks, regardless of writing quality, is still a profitable venture.

Profitable for now ...

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I would recommend building a list first. I was in the same boat as you just a little while ago and I started out just writing articles. Since then I have realized the power of building a solid list.

Lists can do two things for you:

They can allow you a measurable amount of traffic (as long as you keep all your data tracked well).

They build (if done correctly) trust with your clients/customers which means they will be more likely to purchase from you.

I would recommend searching this forum for about 1 million different ways to build that list and what to do with it. There are much smarter people on here than me. Ask them the details
Also with list building you learn a lot about marketing, copy, creating passive income, tips, tricks what works and what doesnt.

Once you master the art of list building and sendin emails at the right time, to the right people, with the right message and offer....you whole life will change. It was the single biggest thing that transformed my life.

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I don't get why 3 or 7k is your goal...

If you have made 0 online, I would start with like $500 in your first month and move on from there.

Many people who don't reach their goals in their first month online become discouraged and give up.

Either way - you should build an email list to reach your income goals.

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I don't get why 3 or 7k is your goal...

If you have made 0 online, I would start with like $500 in your first month and move on from there.

Many people who don't reach their goals in their first month online become discouraged and give up.

Either way - you should build an email list to reach your income goals.
Agree here!

I'm not going to come down on your verbiage for hiring writers. There are plenty of great places to find quality workers. But ultimately you get what you pay for with writing.

My advice would be to start by doing the writing, list building and other aspects of your marketing yourself. Only then, will know *what* you actually want with your business. If you don't know what type of content is good, it's hard to find that diamond in the rough who provides quality articles at an affordable price. Trust me...it's taken me a few years to find one writer who knows a lot about my particular niche.

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IGP, ignore a lot of people who have replied. Yes, the way you put what you said was a little blunt, but hey, you're new and let's be honest, as a newbie a lot of people thought you could get content written for pennies.

Some people just like to prove they're higher up in the hierarchy than you are (something which you will become familiar with if you stick around on the Warrior Forum). You'll ask questions, then get shot down and so on. But it's like any online community, you get the occasional jumped up arrogant [FILL THE BLANK]!

Anyways, to go on what you are asking, I must agree with a lot of people, WRITE YOURSELF.

You may HATE the topic, but knuckle down and write yourself. If you can't make money with yourself doing all the work, then don't waste money outsourcing it.

I also think your goal is a bit ambitious. I personally think you're better off setting a goal of $3,000 to $7,000 per month... In 6 months time.

With 6 months, you can get lists built, content written, products created to promote or whatever method you are taking.

1 month is 30 days and 30 days is quite simply... Not enough time!

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Kind of an odd question, 3 or 7 thousand lol. Why not just say 5 thousand? Anyway, you just need to find a place to start, find something that is working for you and scale it up. Then once you do reach the "3 or 7 thousand" mark just keep scaling, no reason to stop there. Good luck and don't give up and learn from your mistakes and you will do fine.

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3. Realistically my goal is too reach at least 1 thousand in my first month. If i do accomplish making 3 or 7 (for those of you who have) how overwhelming is it and do you have any tips on staying in control if in any case. It may seem a little bit too much.


My answer is probably going to startle you, but here it is: why not try working in the oil sands industry (e.g.: in Alberta, Canada)? Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with internet marketing, and yes, the work is very gruelling, and can even be dangerous/lethal, but the money (and I mean big money) is really there.....people (or shall I say, kids?) in their late teens/early 20s are making $100K - $300K yearly. That's AT LEAST $8300/month, surpassing your goal . The work hours? 12 to 16 hours per day. You do get long yearly vacations though.....I believe 2 to 3 months per year, depending on the shut down seasons.

Someone who has done such a job shared his experience, and he even shared some tips on how you can get started, how to find job postings in that industry, etc. Here it is: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!

If you are tough, both mentally and physically, you might as well make it in that industry .
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My answer is probably going to startle you, but here it is: why not try working in the oil sands industry (e.g.: in Alberta, Canada)? Yes, it has absolutely nothing to do with internet marketing, and yes, the work is very gruelling, and can even be dangerous/lethal, but the money (and I mean big money) is really there.....people (or shall I say, kids?) in their late teens/early 20s are making $100K - $300K yearly. That's AT LEAST $8300/month, surpassing your goal . The work hours? 12 to 16 hours per day. You do get long yearly vacations though.....I believe 2 to 3 months per year, depending on the shut down seasons.

Someone who has done such a job shared his experience, and he even shared some tips on how you can get started, how to find job postings in that industry, etc. Here it is: Working in the Canadian oil sands: 6 figures in 6 months!

If you are tough, both mentally and physically, you might as well make it in that industry .

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