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[CPA]

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I believe it cleared what you are involved into when doing blackhat.

You are involved in scams, spamming, fraud, letters from attorneys, loss of accounts, misleading...

In some cases you'll find yourself raking in huge profits if done right.

You can get your accounts lost everywhere and sued big time if done wrong.

I'm gonna keep the posts I make here whitehat. Wait for it today.

To profits and victory,
CPA

[MrBundalow]

Pretty interesting method you got there. I was not aware of this type of CPA marketing. What launches do you have in mind to do now?

[rankqu]

nice write-up.. wud this be for any specific region ? like US or UK.. ?

[CPA]

Originally Posted by MrBundalow

Pretty interesting method you got there. I was not aware of this type of CPA marketing. What launches do you have in mind to do now?

It's your choice whatever game you pick.

Cheers,
CPA

[CPA]

Originally Posted by rankqu

nice write-up.. wud this be for any specific region ? like US or UK.. ?

I don't understand you? Are you planning on doing adwords?

The gaming industry isn't only limited to the US and UK, there are countries like China for example that has hundreds of thousands of hungry gamers. International.

[ExRat]

Hi,

Just try it out before telling me to GTFO or that I suck.

I'm not going to say anything to you specifically, but I'll add something that will (hopefully) help passing warriors to think a little more deeply about their business decisions, and how by not doing so, they often shoot themselves in the foot to make a few quick dollars.

Anyone here promote ebay or amazon as an affiliate, or other similar companies or large networks?

If you use the system described above, you are positioning yourself poorly - more poorly than if you are an affiliate for ebay, amazon etc.

The people who make the real profit are the toolbar creators. They make multi-millions. How? By stuffing cookies onto peoples' PCs.

What do they offer in return, for these millions? Often, nothing much. The ability to do some kind of special search from your browser toolbar. Minor conveniences for lazy people.

The cost? Major inconvenience for hard working, honest, affiliate marketers.

So to get your $3 commission for a toolbar install, that over time could make a lot of money for the toolbar creators who do nothing else to earn their multi-millions, and rob commissions off hundreds of hard working affiliates in the process, you could be shooting yourself in the foot if you also happen to be an affiliate yourself.

And by promoting these toolbars you are promoting something that will cause a huge chunk of the available money to be taken from the hard working masses and funnelled into the pockets of the lazy, but well-connected few.

It's worth considering these things when you jump on the latest fad based on the exact same principles as the toolbar themselves - offer very little (or nothing) to make a quick buck.

I'm not even getting started on the subject of a whole generation of gamers growing up believing that people tell blatant lies online and get them to install parasitic scumware just to find out that in fact they get nothing at all - and how this contributes to the general lack of trust in the marketplace.

You see, that's the problem with everyone jumping on these 'black hat' techniques as the coolest and latest and greatest thing - you're often shooting yourself in the foot, and the only people you really help to get rich are fat-cat toolbar makers. And there you were thinking you were smart...

Check out some of the outrageous earnings and problems caused to ordinary work at home affiliates by companies like 'onecause' and their toolbar if you think I'm mistaken.

[CPA]

Originally Posted by ExRat

Hi,
I'm not going to say anything to you specifically, but I'll add something that will (hopefully) help passing warriors to think a little more deeply about their business decisions, and how by not doing so, they often shoot themselves in the foot to make a few quick dollars.

Anyone here promote ebay or amazon as an affiliate, or other similar companies or large networks?

If you use the system described above, you are positioning yourself poorly - more poorly than if you are an affiliate for ebay, amazon etc.

The people who make the real profit are the toolbar creators. They make multi-millions. How? By stuffing cookies onto peoples' PCs.

What do they offer in return, for these millions? Often, nothing much. The ability to do some kind of special search from your browser toolbar. Minor conveniences for lazy people.

The cost? Major inconvenience for hard working, honest, affiliate marketers.

So to get your $3 commission for a toolbar install, that over time could make a lot of money for the toolbar creators who do nothing else to earn their multi-millions, and in the process rob commissions off hundreds of hard working affiliates in the process, you could be shooting yourself in the foot if you also happen to be an affiliate yourself.

And by promoting these toolbars you are promoting something that will cause a huge chunk of the available money to be taken from the hard working masses and funnelled into the packets of the lazy, but well-connected few.

It's worth considering these things when you jump on the latest fad based on the exact same principles as the toolbar themselves - offer very little (or nothing) to make a quick buck.

I'm not even getting started on the subject of a whole generation of gamers growing up believing that people tell blatant lies online and get them to install parasitic scumware just to find out that in fact they get nothing at all - and how this contributes to the general lack of trust in the marketplace.

You see, that's the problem with everyone jumping on these 'black hat' techniques as the coolest and latest and greatest thing - you're often shooting yourself in the foot, and the only people you really help to get rich are fat-cat toolbar makers. And there you were thinking you were smart...

Check out some of the outrageous earnings and problems caused to ordinary work at home affiliates by companies like 'onecause' and their toolbar if you think I'm mistaken.

I think that 40% of people that visited this thread actually understood a bit of what blackhat is and will reduce the amount of fake blackhat ebooks and threads, stuff like that in future.

Cheers

[ExRat]

Hi CPA,

I think that 40% of people that visited this thread actually understood a bit of what blackhat is and will reduce the amount of fake blackhat ebooks and threads, stuff like that in future.

I'm not sure what you're getting at?

My understanding of black hat techniques is more along these lines - you use whatever available resources you can find to increase profits - BUT - most of the educated black hatters I have known, add a caveat to that - because there is such an abundance of available resources provided by the 'big guys', these are targetted and the 'little guy' is avoided and left to go about his business. Call it 'top-feeding' if you like.

So for example - they use sites that provide free blogs to create backlinks. And they prefer to target the corporations owned by the billionaire internet moguls. Kind of a code along the lines of 'honour amongst thieves.'

My point in my original post was that you only have to look just below the surface to see that your system outlined above is virtually the oppposite of this - kind of like 'robbing the poor, to inadvertently feed the rich, whilst blowing your foot off in the process (and snagging a few thousand other innocent bystanders with shrapnel) for a few measly morsels.'

Just because your system completely misleads the customer doesn't make it black hat. It just makes it resemble bottom-feeding.

[Tsnyder]

So when the user clicks the button it gets a popup. Inside the popup tell him/her that they need a toolbar in order to download it. Login to your CPA company and find a toolbar offer that pays you around $2-5 per install. You can also use payperinstall binded files. Notice that you are not doing anything illegal as you will never provide them a download link to the game.

Not doing anything illegal? Are you kidding me?

You're advocating committing fraud. You intentionally lie to the viewer so
they'll download some cheesy cookie-stuffed toolbar so you can, what... make
a lousy 2 or 3 bucks?

Anyone who follows this advice deserves what they get... karma's a bitch!

Tsnyder

[buonarroti]

Yes usually what goes around comes around...some techniques work and others do not.
I like honesty is the best policy. If someone feels they have been cheated, they will not be returning or become a reoccurring customer. The many brick and mortar businesses I have been involved with over the years always come out further ahead by being truthful and honest to their customers. When you follow some basic business rules, be it offline or online you will come out ahead, sometimes it may just take a little longer.

[matthewd]

As for not doing anything illegal... you say to steal the videos off of Youtube and watermark them for your own.

The whole getting in on a game launch is an interesting concept and I do appreciate you sharing your methods with the Warriors, but I would like it a lot better with a different method for monetization and without stealing videos.

[Jared Alberghini]

CPA,

So why am I telling you about it?

Because I wanna get the word about some new stuff we'll be producing.

So is this is a pre-sell post for yet another Blackhat WSO?

[kindsvater]

First, this isn't new. Every 'blackhat' CPA wannabe is currently advertising this. Don't know how many times I've already seen it as a WSO or mentioned somewhere else.

Second, think fraud, copyright theft, trademark infringement, etc.

Third, think law enforcement, letters from attorneys, loss of affiliate accounts, lost web hosting, lost domains, etc. I'm not kidding about this. There's a big-name 'guru' sweating it out right now for promoting this crap.

Fourth, you're not going to make any money. You haven't, that's why you don't have any income claims. NO ONE has any income claims for this junk because there isn't any. It's just a twist on the movie trailer, movies, etc., crap that's being going around the forum for months.

I don't know if its the economy, but is the Warrior Forum turning less into a place for good money making ideas and more of a cheap whore forum where scam artists prey on desperate newbies?

Folks, the only people who are going to be making money on "killer CPA" methods like this are the attorneys. That is something you can take to the bank.

[lacraiger]

this is how shoemoney got rich. he subscribed millions of kids to ringtones and wallpapers. for me its not ethically worth $1 per kid who had to get spanked for that.

[Bruce NewMedia]

Originally Posted by kindsvater

I don't know if its the economy, but is the Warrior Forum turning less into a place for good money making ideas and more of a cheap whore forum where scam artists prey on desperate newbies?

Yeh, Brian is so right here. Just look at how the WSO forum is starting to be flooded with bad offers. And what are the worst scam offers? : CPA!! stuff because it's currently 'hot'.

New members make 30 fast posts in a day or so and throw up a $250 or even $500 CPA offer. This is happening every few days now....and the offers are exposed as pure CRAP!

Just old retread 'Blackhat' CPA junk. ...people should call 'blackhat' what it really is: A euphemism for DISHONEST SCAM.
_____
Bruce

[CPA]

Originally Posted by kindsvater

First, this isn't new. Every 'blackhat' CPA wannabe is currently advertising this. Don't know how many times I've already seen it as a WSO or mentioned somewhere else.

Second, think fraud, copyright theft, trademark infringement, etc.

Third, think law enforcement, letters from attorneys, loss of affiliate accounts, lost web hosting, lost domains, etc. I'm not kidding about this. There's a big-name 'guru' sweating it out right now for promoting this crap.

Fourth, you're not going to make any money. You haven't, that's why you don't have any income claims. NO ONE has any income claims for this junk because there isn't any. It's just a twist on the movie trailer, movies, etc., crap that's being going around the forum for months.

I don't know if its the economy, but is the Warrior Forum turning less into a place for good money making ideas and more of a cheap whore forum where scam artists prey on desperate newbies?

Folks, the only people who are going to be making money on "killer CPA" methods like this are the attorneys. That is something you can take to the bank.

I'm not gonna do any more stuff, I mean promotion.

That's what blackhat is man. I hope you understood the right side of it. Blackhat aint good at all. You are involved in scams, spamming, fraud, letters from attorneys, loss of accounts, misleading... and it even turns on people.

I'll keep my posts blackhat free.

Will post a whitehat method today.

Cheers

[Noel2010]

That post was removed fast. Maybe we have a few AMs from the CPA companies here now.

[CPA]

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It wasnt removed I did it.

[LivingCovers]

Originally Posted by CPA

^

It wasnt removed I did it.

Just sent you a PM regarding that.