Can SEOElite Hurt Your Google Rankings?

by diglet
26 replies
Hi

Just wondered whether anyone knows for sure whether running SeoElite to check your google rankings can actually hurt your rankings?

I have a number of good quality websites, no duplicate content, updated regular that hold a lot of top spots on google. However in the last couple of days all my rankings have dropped between 20-50 places.

This is not specific to any website but to every one. Many of which have held first page ranking for over 2 years.

I have not adopted any black hat strategies or anything even slightly grey hat.

Only thing that I do on a regular daily basis is run SeoElite to check positionings as I like the graph it creates to help me understand fully what is going on.

Any ideas?

Thanks

Mark
#google #hurt #rankings #seoelite
  • Profile picture of the author locke
    Hey Mark,

    I have used SEO Elite myself for the same purpose and have noticed significant adverse effects from usage. I am currently using something called Rank Checker that can be downloaded for free as a plugin with firefox, I have noticed no adverse affects using the free plugin so i've left SEO Elite in the dust.. it's my estimation that it is extremely damaging to website rankings, please let me know if you have trouble finding the rank checker for firefox..

    -locke
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  • Profile picture of the author diglet
    Hi Locke

    Any idea if my rankings will come back if I stop using the software and if so how long?

    Is there a fixed penalty time wise that you know of?

    Many of my sites ranked page 1 without any linking as there is little or no competition in my niches. Should I start doing some linking to get them back?

    Any help or advice would be much appreciated.

    Mark
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    • Profile picture of the author dotslash
      Hi

      Although I think that many so called SEO practices can damage your rankings. I don't think this can purely for the reason - what would stop me deliberately wrecking a competitors ranking by running checks on their web site.

      I've seen a lot of changes in some of my sites last couple of days - maybe some change in their algorithm?

      Maybe the bar has changed for how best to optimise a page and your site has been affected by change.

      Neil
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      • Profile picture of the author SexySarah19
        i dont understand how you guys think checking your websites/keywords rankings using SEO elite can hurt your rankings?

        doesnt make any sense at all to me, i have been usng SEO elite for some time now and love it
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  • Profile picture of the author locke
    1.) Diglet Advice

    I would recommend that you stop using SEOElite for a few days at least and build a few new quality backlinks to your pages. Google may just be shuffling your pages around a bit or Dotslash could be on to something and they may be updating their ranking variables... This happens to lots of people and most of the time when the water settles your rankings will come back and possibly higher than before as well..

    2.) Sarah

    You may be right but i doubt its coincidence that within 1 week after switching to rank checker and giving SEOElite 5-10 target keyword terms hit the first page with Google... I'm fairly positive that Google is on to SEOElite and it is punishing users, if you read Google TOS you may be able to connect the dots
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    • Profile picture of the author SexySarah19
      maybe google have just changed their algorithm, thats all

      no need for the tin foil hats just yet
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  • Profile picture of the author WinsonYeung
    Well, i dont understand why using SEO lite will affect your ranking as well.
    What's wrong check for keywork and competitor website using SEO lite ?
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    • Profile picture of the author RankHigh
      My wild guess is might be the tool crawls too much and get noticed by Google. But it won't get your site banned.

      There has been rumuors that Google updates its algorithm recently.
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  • Profile picture of the author milan
    People saying a tool like that is hurting their rankings are giving very bad advice.
    p.s. If that's would be even possible the only thing you would have to do use the tool to get the top 10 is use the tool on the current top 10 results, your competitors. lol
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  • Profile picture of the author hitman22
    i think it can
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    • Profile picture of the author TonyG2160
      As Milan stated above...if SEOelite can damage your site...this would be a VERY valuable piece of software...to bring down your competition! IMO
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  • Profile picture of the author MikeWords
    Seo Elite does things that anyone can do manually, just quicker and more efficiently. It is not affecting your ranking, and its a powerful tool that you should continue to use. Your'e just caught in a google dance. It happens.
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  • Profile picture of the author Franck Silvestre
    Seo elite has nothing to do with your "ranking nightmare".

    This happen sometimes, don't go mad about it, just continue getting backlinks for your website, and work on conversion.

    Now, you understand that all your traffic should come from VARIOUS sources, and that's a good point.

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  • Profile picture of the author Brad Callen
    Ok... normally I don't jump into threads like this, but it's a MAJOR pet peave of mine when I see people giving advice when they have absolutely no idea what they're talking about, only to mislead someone looking for good advice.

    Locke: Not to sound rude, but there is 100% nothing that SEO Elite, or any software product that analyzes a website's rankings could do to hurt your ranking. SEO Elite provides the user with information and information only. It's up to the user to use that information they gleam from the software. SEO Elite analyzes web pages and reports it to the user. There is no direct attachment from SEO Elite to the user's website. If using SEO Elite hurt your rankings, don't you think people would be hurting their competitor's websites all day long? Again, Locke, what you're saying is completely impossible. So... essentially you're saying that if I plugged your website into SEO Elite to check where your site ranks, it's going to hurt your Google rankings? Tell me you're joking.

    When SEO Elite checks to find where a site ranks, it simply opens the web browser (behind the scenes), goes to Google, inputs the keyword, then reports it to the end user. It looks and acts 100% exactly like if you manually opened your web browser and went searching in Google for your keyword. Absolutely nothing is different. It's just automating the manual tasks you could do yourself, but would take longer.

    Mark, take my advice and listen to those of us at the Warrior forum that actually know SEO, and ignore the random comments like "I think it can" based on absolutely no facts :-)

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    • Profile picture of the author jonoman1
      Hey Mark, yeah that's a bummer. I have heard of that happening with SEOelite, but like a previous poster I am using Rank Checker, the firefox plugin from SEO book. It works great and makes it easy to track your websites and print out excel forms with it.
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  • Profile picture of the author diglet
    The one thing I dont get is how wierd my search rankings now are. I am not a newbie at seo and I have been doing seo for over 10 years and have many happy clients. It is just that I have never ran into a problem like this before.

    If google has done an update I can appreciate that my rankings might change, however I have approx 150-200 first page rankings, mainly top 3 rankings and every single one has dropped down 20-40 places.

    Surely, some of them would have stayed on the first page or even second page? Maybe some rankings falling and some rising? But for all of them to go, something else is wrong.

    All my sites have pagerank and have been linked using numerous different techniques, so it is not like all links are coming from one place.

    Not really sure what I should do next? It will be a week on Saturday, should I give it longer to see if they come back on their own?

    My income off these websites has totally died so I really need to do something fast. Would you recommend maybe moving a couple over to a different host in case my server has somehow become blacklisted?

    Any other suggestions would be very much appreciated.

    Thanks

    Mark
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  • Profile picture of the author StevenSaliba
    The concern I have with SEO elite is that if Google sees that my website has gotten many backlinks in a short period of time, I am scared my website will be blacklisted.
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    • Profile picture of the author derrickp
      What are you talking about? A concern like that has nothing to do with SEO Elite, you control your backlinks for a major part and if something like too many backlinks happened it would be your fault not software that doesn't directly build backlinks.

      Originally Posted by StevenSaliba View Post

      The concern I have with SEO elite is that if Google sees that my website has gotten many backlinks in a short period of time, I am scared my website will be blacklisted.
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      • Profile picture of the author StevenSaliba
        Originally Posted by derrickp View Post

        What are you talking about? A concern like that has nothing to do with SEO Elite, you control your backlinks for a major part and if something like too many backlinks happened it would be your fault not software that doesn't directly build backlinks.
        So what is a reasonable amount of backlinks that I should build on a daily basis?
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        • Profile picture of the author derrickp
          Can't answer depends on too many variables. Always do what looks natural that is the key.

          New site don't build a hundred backlinks on day 1. What would a new site normally get? Few few. Slow continual growth in backlinks.

          Established site would it look more natural for a site to have 1,000 backlinks all with the same word or one that contains variations?

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          Originally Posted by StevenSaliba View Post

          So what is a reasonable amount of backlinks that I should build on a daily basis?
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  • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
    off topic but has anyone got their 2 free products from brad for the ppc coaching class? I got seo elite and keyword elite and just wondering if anyone started getting theirs.
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    • Profile picture of the author StevenSaliba
      Originally Posted by Jakehyten View Post

      off topic but has anyone got their 2 free products from brad for the ppc coaching class? I got seo elite and keyword elite and just wondering if anyone started getting theirs.
      I bought the PPC DVD. I just never got a receipt #. I just emailed them info I got in the email. I think that when the DVD arrives in the mail you will have a receipt #. I still didn't get a reply about the 2 free products though.
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      • Profile picture of the author Jakehyten
        Originally Posted by StevenSaliba View Post

        I bought the PPC DVD. I just never got a receipt #. I just emailed them info I got in the email. I think that when the DVD arrives in the mail you will have a receipt #. I still didn't get a reply about the 2 free products though.
        no you should have a receipt already. I have my receipt already.
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        • Profile picture of the author halfpoint
          Originally Posted by Jakehyten View Post

          no you should have a receipt already. I have my receipt already.
          You're referring to the receipt that just has the last 4 digits of your credit card and the time you ordered yes?

          Brad responded in the PPC Classroom thread and said they are going through all the tickets and it could take up to 7 days to get back to everyone. Good to hear you got yours quickly!
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  • Profile picture of the author robertstr
    I don't think a software can hurt your rankings...I have been running ibp for 5 yrs..to death..like seo elite. If a program like this could be bad for your site...Id be dead!

    Wait a few days..I had an experience where I fell off the charts once, came back 2 weeks later, Had a nervous breakdown..just start building links ...writing good stuff, the norm.

    cheers
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