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by Orri Holmarsson
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#blog #farm
  • Profile picture of the author steve39
    Sounds like he's obviously gaming Google. Sites like this tend to rocket to the top and then crash once Google figures out they shouldn't have been there in the first place.
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  • Profile picture of the author Mark Brian
    Yeah its an automated blog farm. One of my competitors outranked me doing that. His sites sucks btw.
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  • Profile picture of the author TrafficGuy Claude
    His business model is classic churn and burn blackhat search engine marketing. He gets up to #1 on Google as quickly as possible and make the most money he can while he's there. After they deindex him he's going to do another, then another, and he'll keep on churning and burning and laughing all the way to the bank as he cashes large commission checks in the middle of the worst economic climate since the Great Depression.

    Blackhat methods are ruthlessly effective. Whitehat is good for the long term, but if you want some instant cash do what he's doing!
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
    We'd have to see the site. Any suggestions would be purely speculation. It sounds like a blog farm though.
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  • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
    yeah, that's typical automated blog farm and content generation stuff from the blackhat community.

    The problem is that if google catches on, it can often quickly follow the trail of blogs and de-index them, and the blackhatter often has to start over. Typicaly they (the BH guys) will have a TON of different things going so that losing a money site doesn't kill all of their income.
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  • Profile picture of the author doctorjay
    Is he using free or hosted Wordpress? And is there some way of doing something similar but white hat so the stories do relate? I'm relatively new to all this so could do with your help.
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  • Profile picture of the author kenetrix
    One other note about "blackhat methods":

    While they are "ruthlessly effective", the ones that really work the best cost a ton of money and time to implement.

    That said, the reason the black hatters do it is because it's a "numbers" game:
    they make more money than they spend, so it "pays" for them to do it.

    However, make no mistake about it: they have very large expenses that eat away at those "profits" that you are seeing.

    -Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author yesacpow
      very interesting,

      I would love to get all my sites ranked at the top of the search engines for all my keywords. I can just imagine what that guys checks looks like. Especially if the terms get a lot of searches.
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      • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
        Originally Posted by Orri Holmarsson View Post

        Okay, thank you everyone!



        What other stuff than hosting, domains, and possible time costs a lot?
        think hundreds and even thousands of domian purchases a month.. and DEDICATED servers scattered across different hosts. Dedicated because the scripts they use will often bring a server to it's knee's, different hosts because they need to hide their trail as much as possible.
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        • Profile picture of the author kenetrix
          You're exactly right, Jason!

          I personally know a few BH folks who normally purchase 2,500 to 3,000 domains per month,
          and maintain dozen of big dedicated servers distributed across multiple hosts and countries - all for an ungodly amount of money.

          Plus, they have quite an army of people that they employ to implement all thos blogs, on a continual basis.

          Without doing it on the massive scale that they do, it would never be worthwhile in terms of net profit.

          -Ken
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    • Profile picture of the author jasonl70
      Originally Posted by kenetrix View Post

      One other note about "blackhat methods":

      While they are "ruthlessly effective", the ones that really work the best cost a ton of money and time to implement.


      -Ken
      ken makes an important point here.. most people who consistantly do well in the BH world pay for numerous dedicated servers from various host providers, register their domains with different companies (using diffetrent names), etc.

      They will often have thousands of sites up at any one time, making new ones in bulk every day (with the associated expense of buying tons of domain names all the time). It's not easy money, and it takes technical skills and money.
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  • Profile picture of the author tommygadget
    Yes, I think they call it a rolling blog farm. What they do is roll up the links that have the oldest age and remove them before Google gets around to de-indexing them as splogs so the links are used for around 3 weeks and removed and round and round they go. You need automated scripts to make this work because of the thousands of blogs involved to get the right link juice. Part of the scheme involved subdomains that never linked to the main domain. As they burnt out, another subdomain would take its place.

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  • Profile picture of the author awesometbn
    Hello Orri,
    Your description sounds very similar to a blog post I was reading the other day.

    Source: Google Torpedoes Navy: You Sunk my Battleship!

    Bill worked his way up where he was purchasing hundreds of domains per day and was hosting thousands of domains across more than 65 dedicated servers. He was pulling in more than $60,000 per month from Google Adsense.


    $60,000+ per Month . . . on 1 Adsense account.


    Here's the kicker: All his content across his entire Network of thousands of sites was spun from a total of about 45 sentences. So you could Google one of his sentence fragments and find his entire Network.
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    • Profile picture of the author newbie30
      Hi Guy`s,
      So are all the scripts ie content manager pro and caffeinated content wp plugin all in the same boat.Is there no way to create or purchase a program that will provide unique content to update your blog automatically,not to build a farm but for arguments sake a self updating blog on yoga,chinese cooking,acne,eczema remedies with affiliate links in them,so that you could make several blogs a day,I suppose what I`m getting at is can you use auto blog programs in a white hat way or not.
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      • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
        Originally Posted by newbie30 View Post

        Hi Guy`s,
        So are all the scripts ie content manager pro and caffeinated content wp plugin all in the same boat.Is there no way to create or purchase a program that will provide unique content to update your blog automatically,not to build a farm but for arguments sake a self updating blog on yoga,chinese cooking,acne,eczema remedies with affiliate links in them,so that you could make several blogs a day,I suppose what I`m getting at is can you use auto blog programs in a white hat way or not.
        Yes you can! Just build backlinks for your pages as well. You could submit your sites RSS feed to directories and do automated trackbacks amongst other things...
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  • Profile picture of the author Aaron Moser
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  • Profile picture of the author grumpyb
    Thanks for posting this thread it has shown me a little more again in my quest to see the over all big picture.
    I am preocupied with running sites that sell physical products and how to get them on page 1 for SERP.
    These discussions on black hat seo with sites run jus to get revenue from Adsense or Clickbank have opened another dimension for me.
    The more discussions like this one the better and I liked the artilce re the Navy
    Its always excelent when people add in little clickable links to articles relevant to the thread.
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